View Full Version : Oh, before I forget... Tatum Bell! SEE YA!
Taco John
03-03-2007, 05:20 AM
:yayaya:
I am VERY pleased to see the Broncos ending the Tatum Bell experiment. I had had it up to my eyeballs with his fumbles and completely lost all confidence in the guy. The worst was the San Francisco game where he fumbled the ball and then just laid there not bothering to even ATTEMPT to recover it. Yes, I know the refs blew the whistle, and then later GAVE San Francisco the ball because someone "recovered" it after the whistle blew and they needed to save face somehow. Nevertheless, watching Bell just lay there, knowing he didn't have the ball in his hands and doing NOTHING about it irked me to no end. I was already at my tipping point with the guy, and that pushed me over the edge.
I'm more than happy to move up Mike Bell on the chart. I don't think he's the final solution, but I like him much better than fumBell. I'm looking forward to seeing us bring in someone in both free agency and via draft (or maybe a trade), and I'm happy to know that we don't have to rely on Tatum any longer.
Florida_Bronco
03-03-2007, 05:34 AM
I like Tatum, he played very well for us at the beginning of the year and fought hard through 2 turf toe injuries, so we should respect him for that. It sucks that he developed fumblitis at the end of the year, but **** happens.
Taco John
03-03-2007, 05:45 AM
I like Tatum, he played very well for us at the beginning of the year and fought hard through 2 turf toe injuries, so we should respect him for that. It sucks that he developed fumblitis at the end of the year, but **** happens.
That's the problem that I have with Tatum Bell, period. He starts seasons off pretty good, but by the end of October, he's all used up and injured. You just can't rely on a back like that to carry you all the way through December, and then pick up in January for a playoff run. I always wanted to give the guy a benefit of a doubt, but the bottom line for me is that he's a one dimensional guy who can't be counted on to carry the load.
The fumble problem on top of that... That's enough to drive a man over the edge... :cuss:
-Slap-
03-03-2007, 06:00 AM
I like Tatum and I wish him the best. He didn't totally pan out, but he played some solid football for us.
BroncoBuff
03-03-2007, 06:32 AM
"Fum-Bell"?
That's FUNNY!
Now we need a counter-punch with Mike Bell. I thought Nash might be the guy, and the free agents are interesting - but too expensive. In the draft, Pittman reminds me too much of Mike, but Tony Hunt is a solid battering ram back who rarely fumbles and can catch the ball. Plus he'll be there in Round 2 or perhaps even 3, so we can go DT or DE early.
Kaylore
03-03-2007, 06:59 AM
He really handled everything well considering he replaced Portis, took his number, and even wanted to wear number 7 on his Jersey. Despite all this, Tatum never acted lame or got all pissy-pants about splitting time and just did his best. That's really all you can ask of someone.
-Slap-
03-03-2007, 07:03 AM
Go make your draft pick.
BroncoBuff
03-03-2007, 07:12 AM
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/9166/bellky0.jpg
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playernews.aspx?sport=NFL&line=90278
Ratboy
03-03-2007, 07:28 AM
But you wanted Foster to stay?
broncogary
03-03-2007, 07:56 AM
But you wanted Foster to stay?
That's gonna leave a mark. Ha!
Kaylore
03-03-2007, 08:00 AM
But you wanted Foster to stay?
LOL
watermock
03-03-2007, 08:11 AM
Thank God we gave Foster that contract extention.
Dedhed
03-03-2007, 08:15 AM
I'm not going to miss Tatum much.
Barry Ramey
03-03-2007, 09:32 AM
I'm also glad to see Tatum gone. I got so tired watching his dancing around too many times instead of make a cut and go and get what you can. He wanted to make every run a long one instead of taking what's there and would rather run sweeps. He also wasn't a tough runner who ran through tackles much either. Broncos need a tough runner who isn't afraid to go between the tackles, who can break tackles, and has some speed to go the distance when that opportunity presents itself. Maybe the Lions will run more sweeps for him so he doesn't have to run inside so much.
I appreciate Tatum and definitely the contribution he has made and there were a few. He had a direct hand in some victories for us over the past two seasons. The guy had a ton of potential and just wasn't very tough when it came down to it. I hope he lights it up in Detroit though. Same for Foster.
Maybe this will teach us that players like CP (4.3 type speed) are the exception and not the rule. Give me a guy that runs a 4.5 but picks up 10 yards consistently like TD vs. the lightning in a bottle affect that we got from TBell and CP.
orinjkrush
03-03-2007, 10:13 AM
i don't think you should ever hold a guy's injury proneness against him. sometimes it's difficult to determine if a guy is a wimp or not, but he's the one who has to make a life out of those beat up knees and backs. good luck tater.
s0phr0syne
03-03-2007, 10:42 AM
:yayaya:
The worst was the San Francisco game where he fumbled the ball and then just laid there not bothering to even ATTEMPT to recover it. Yes, I know the refs blew the whistle, and then later GAVE San Francisco the ball because someone "recovered" it after the whistle blew and they needed to save face somehow. Nevertheless, watching Bell just lay there, knowing he didn't have the ball in his hands and doing NOTHING about it irked me to no end.
Look, at the end of the day it's all speculation, but if you watch that game carefully, I'm pretty sure Tatum was knocked out when he fumbled. Don't give him **** for not getting the ball while laying on the ground unconscious. He played hard and tried to learn, but ultimately his style didn't mesh well with the Broncos'.
BigPlayShay
03-03-2007, 11:21 AM
Look, at the end of the day it's all speculation, but if you watch that game carefully, I'm pretty sure Tatum was knocked out when he fumbled. Don't give him **** for not getting the ball while laying on the ground unconscious. He played hard and tried to learn, but ultimately his style didn't mesh well with the Broncos'.
Good call, I was going to say the same thing. He didn't try to get the ball because he had no idea he lost it. He spent the next few minutes shaking his head like trying to "get the cob webs out".
But, I do agree with TJ that I am glad the experiment is over. Plain and simple, Tatum is not tough enough, both mentally and physically. He constantly talked about the coaches "getting on him" rather than actually doing somehting about it. And when things went wrong on the field, with a fumble, or failing to convert a 3rd and short it affected his game.
Popps
03-03-2007, 12:02 PM
Tatum has a pretty good highlight reel as a Bronco, and had a couple of huge games against K.C.., which is always appreciated. But, he wasn't an every down back and just got too hard to figure what you'd get out of him. I was a big supporter of his in the early days, but I understand the move. We need an every down back again... even if we DO give him a lot of rest with another back.
Play2win
03-03-2007, 12:04 PM
Wasn't guy on the San Francisco sideline saying- just hit Tatum once REAL HARD and you've got him under your thumb for the rest of the game...
Not the kind of back I want on my team...
It would be soooo nice to get a "Bruiser" at RB, a guy that would punish any defensive guy FOOL enough to try to tackle him... :militia:
Wes Mantooth
03-03-2007, 12:21 PM
:yayaya:
I am VERY pleased to see the Broncos ending the Tatum Bell experiment. I had had it up to my eyeballs with his fumbles and completely lost all confidence in the guy. The worst was the San Francisco game where he fumbled the ball and then just laid there not bothering to even ATTEMPT to recover it. Yes, I know the refs blew the whistle, and then later GAVE San Francisco the ball because someone "recovered" it after the whistle blew and they needed to save face somehow. Nevertheless, watching Bell just lay there, knowing he didn't have the ball in his hands and doing NOTHING about it irked me to no end. I was already at my tipping point with the guy, and that pushed me over the edge.
I'm more than happy to move up Mike Bell on the chart. I don't think he's the final solution, but I like him much better than fumBell. I'm looking forward to seeing us bring in someone in both free agency and via draft (or maybe a trade), and I'm happy to know that we don't have to rely on Tatum any longer.
Agree. M. Bell has alot of upside. Way more impressive runner inside the tackles.
Haven't we now received TWO pro-bowl CB's from the initial Champ Baily for Portis Trade? Didn't the pick we received from WSH ultimatley end up giving us T. Bell who we now traded for Bly? Thank you WSH!
2KBack
03-03-2007, 12:49 PM
I always thought (until the final stretch last season) that Bell had the tools to be an absolute monster. He was bigger than a typical speed back and faster than a power back. He just couldn't put it all together, and I was done waiting for that to happen. I appreciate what he gave us, but was ready to see him go. His speed masked his inconsistancy.
Steve Sewell
03-03-2007, 12:53 PM
:yayaya:
I am VERY pleased to see the Broncos ending the Tatum Bell experiment. I had had it up to my eyeballs with his fumbles and completely lost all confidence in the guy. The worst was the San Francisco game where he fumbled the ball and then just laid there not bothering to even ATTEMPT to recover it. Yes, I know the refs blew the whistle, and then later GAVE San Francisco the ball because someone "recovered" it after the whistle blew and they needed to save face somehow. Nevertheless, watching Bell just lay there, knowing he didn't have the ball in his hands and doing NOTHING about it irked me to no end. I was already at my tipping point with the guy, and that pushed me over the edge.
I'm more than happy to move up Mike Bell on the chart. I don't think he's the final solution, but I like him much better than fumBell. I'm looking forward to seeing us bring in someone in both free agency and via draft (or maybe a trade), and I'm happy to know that we don't have to rely on Tatum any longer.
In regard to that specific fumble, the reason Tatum didn't do anything was because he was knocked out by a helmet to helmet hit by the defender. He body went limp and he dropped the ball...it's kind of hard to react and recover a football when you are knocked senseless...of course anyone who has experienced this would know it.
Bronco Billy
03-03-2007, 12:56 PM
I wish T Bell the best of luck. If the NFL sees ex-Bronco RBs having success on other clubs, then they'll be more willing to trade their star DBs in the future. We're probably going to need another safety in a few years.
Odysseus
03-03-2007, 01:08 PM
Look, at the end of the day it's all speculation, but if you watch that game carefully, I'm pretty sure Tatum was knocked out when he fumbled. Don't give him **** for not getting the ball while laying on the ground unconscious. He played hard and tried to learn, but ultimately his style didn't mesh well with the Broncos'.
I don't recall Bell ever getting knocked out. I always expected much bitter things from him because he showed so much potential but the guy was a tease. I think running on carpet, if Detroit keeps him, might give him a better chance to make a difference but if keeps astro turf can knock the crap out of you if you hit it often enough. He might get knocked out up there.
Next time, we should pass on trying to on putting a track sprinter in the backfield because we think it would look nice. We need guys with instincts.
The more I think about it, the happier I would be getting a chain mover like Tony Hunt in the backfield.
youcandoit1687
03-03-2007, 01:17 PM
Agree. M. Bell has alot of upside. Way more impressive runner inside the tackles.
Haven't we now received TWO pro-bowl CB's from the initial Champ Baily for Portis Trade? Didn't the pick we received from WSH ultimatley end up giving us T. Bell who we now traded for Bly? Thank you WSH!
Give:
Clinton Portis
2007 5th rounder
George Foster
Get:
Champ Bailey
Dre Bly
2007 6th rounder
Basically, Champ>CP, Dre Bly>George Foster, and we drop down 13 spots plus we got 3 years service out of TBell. haha, any day of the week I'll take that!
youcandoit1687
03-03-2007, 01:24 PM
Next time, we should pass on trying to on putting a track sprinter in the backfield because we think it would look nice. We need guys with instincts.
The more I think about it, the happier I would be getting a chain mover like Tony Hunt in the backfield.
lol, didn't think that was a recent revelation. I thought you had been on his bandwagon since draft talk started up.
Taco John
03-03-2007, 01:41 PM
But you wanted Foster to stay?
Not really. I had high hopes for Foster, but it was pretty clear that he wasn't working out. He was my adopt a Bronco, so I play that aspect up, but I pretty much resigned myself that he wasn't going to pan out.
Steve Sewell
03-03-2007, 03:06 PM
I don't recall Bell ever getting knocked out. I always expected much bitter things from him because he showed so much potential but the guy was a tease. I think running on carpet, if Detroit keeps him, might give him a better chance to make a difference but if keeps astro turf can knock the crap out of you if you hit it often enough. He might get knocked out up there.
It was a vicious head to head hit that forced him to drop the ball, and it was quite obvious that his body went limp from the moment contact occurred. I find it amazing that you don't recall this because the replay was shown over 20 times when they were reviewing the play. Yes, Bell has fumbling problems, but I won't fault him for that one. There should have been a penalty for spearing if anything on that play.
2KBack
03-03-2007, 03:25 PM
It was a vicious head to head hit that forced him to drop the ball, and it was quite obvious that his body went limp from the moment contact occurred. I find it amazing that you don't recall this because the replay was shown over 20 times when they were reviewing the play. Yes, Bell has fumbling problems, but I won't fault him for that one. There should have been a penalty for spearing if anything on that play.
I don't think there is such a penatly against a running back with the ball.
x123z
03-03-2007, 07:08 PM
Shanahan keep trying to duplicate what he got in Terrel Davis, a sixth round draft choice. Has not happened yet all he has done is mark time.
Bob's your Information Minister
03-03-2007, 07:21 PM
Tatum has a pretty good highlight reel as a Bronco, and had a couple of huge games against K.C.
Tatum Bell never did **** against Kansas City. I was wrong for ever fearing the guy.
Clockwork Orange
03-03-2007, 07:26 PM
Back in your hole, you bet welching biatch.
Florida_Bronco
03-03-2007, 07:35 PM
Tatum Bell never did **** against Kansas City. I was wrong for ever fearing the guy.
Awww, poor little Blob had to come out of the basement to defend his medicore team's honor.
OrangeShadow
03-03-2007, 07:35 PM
I wish tatum the best of luck,i thought hed pan out but oh well
loborugger
03-03-2007, 07:39 PM
Whats up with all the Taco Bell hate?
I am gonna tackle the SF game fumble.
Unlike TJ, I wasnt on the field. However, I am gonna guess one of a couple of things happened. 1. As previously stated, he was either out cold, or was recovering from the finger in the eye/face-masking and was unaware of what happened. 2. He knew that the ball was out. However, he was also cognizant that the SF defenders were also not diving on the ball. Therefore, he made a split second decision to pretend it didnt happen, hoping that the zebras wouldnt know it either. I know from playing sports (you played sports, right TJ) that sometimes if you pretend you didnt make an error, the officials also miss it. ANd, it worked until the replay.
My guess is that it was combo of the two.
Either way, good luck where ever you end up Taters - except, of course, when you play us.
It was common knowledge that he wasnt an every down back when this season started. That he wasnt transformed into an every down back in the last off season shouldnt surprise anyone.
Instead of the SF fumble, I prefer to refer to remember Taco Bell with the Ravens game this season. He carried the most over-rated LB in the NFL for a game changing 1st down and helped the Broncos win the game.
Honestly, I wish we could keep him as a spell back and a dude we bring in in the 4th quarter when the opposition is worn down and tired. He excelled at those tasks.
Northman
03-03-2007, 07:44 PM
Tatum Bell never did **** against Kansas City. I was wrong for ever fearing the guy.
Welcher
Taco John
03-03-2007, 07:48 PM
Whats up with all the Taco Bell hate?
I am gonna tackle the SF game fumble.
Unlike TJ, I wasnt on the field. However, I am gonna guess one of a couple of things happened. 1. As previously stated, he was either out cold, or was recovering from the finger in the eye/face-masking and was unaware of what happened. 2. He knew that the ball was out. However, he was also cognizant that the SF defenders were also not diving on the ball. Therefore, he made a split second decision to pretend it didnt happen, hoping that the zebras wouldnt know it either. I know from playing sports (you played sports, right TJ) that sometimes if you pretend you didnt make an error, the officials also miss it. ANd, it worked until the replay.
My guess is that it was combo of the two.
Either way, good luck where ever you end up Taters - except, of course, when you play.
It was common knowledge that he wasnt an every down back when this season started. That he wasnt transformed into an every down back in the last off season shouldnt surprise anyone.
Instead of the SF fumble, I prefer to refer to remember Taco Bell with the Ravens game this season. He carried the most over-rated LB in the NFL for a game changing 1st down and helped the Broncos win the game.
Honestly, I wish we could keep him as a spell back and a dude we bring in in the 4th quarter when the opposition is worn down and tired. He excelled at those tasks.
Yeah, I played sports. Football even. My sports experience has nothing to do with the fact that Tatum Bell was an inconsistent back that we couldn't rely on from game to game.
I'm not going to guess what happened against San Francisco. I will just go off of the facts: Tatum Bell fumbled again.
Taco John
03-03-2007, 07:49 PM
Tatum Bell never did **** against Kansas City. I was wrong for ever fearing the guy.
Honorless bitch.
loborugger
03-03-2007, 08:02 PM
Tatum Bell never did **** against Kansas City. I was wrong for ever fearing the guy.
Whats up with this crap, Bob? You had a chance to develop some honor, integrity, and some respect... and you dropped the ball.
Enjoy Sat evening in your mom's basement.
Rock Chalk
03-03-2007, 08:15 PM
Not really. I had high hopes for Foster, but it was pretty clear that he wasn't working out. He was my adopt a Bronco, so I play that aspect up, but I pretty much resigned myself that he wasn't going to pan out.
Bwahahahaha.
What a liar you are.
You ****ing **** your pants when we drafted him because he was the next monster LT.
When it became clear after year one, he was never going to be LT, you defended him as badly as you bashed Plummer.
When the season ended and everyone and their mother saw that Foster sucked monkey nuts, you didnt think he would be cut or traded.
It wasnt until he was actually traded that you conceed that he was a colossal bust. COLOSSAL. The Walking QB Concussion is gone and now you are trying revisionist history.
Sell that **** somewhere else.
Florida_Bronco
03-03-2007, 08:23 PM
Whats up with this crap, Bob? You had a chance to develop some honor, integrity, and some respect... and you dropped the ball.
Enjoy Sat evening in your mom's basement.
What do you expect from him? The guy is a disgusting fatass who has absolutely NOTHING going for him in his life. His whole pathetic existence is based around sitting at the computer and arguing with people while pretending to know something about the game of football.
Besides, it's not like anyone wants his company, much less on a Saturday night.
ZachKC
03-04-2007, 02:39 AM
What do you expect from him? The guy is a disgusting fatass who has absolutely NOTHING going for him in his life. His whole pathetic existence is based around sitting at the computer and arguing with people while pretending to know something about the game of football.
Besides, it's not like anyone wants his company, much less on a Saturday night.
Yet you follow him around from board to board post to post.
That sucks. :spit:
Florida_Bronco
03-04-2007, 02:46 AM
Yet you follow him around from board to board post to post.
That sucks. :spit:
Well ya know, with the girlfriend back in NJ visiting family and me being sick, picking on Blob is the best entertainment available.
It's good fun too, especially when he goes into meltdown mode. !Booya!
ZachKC
03-04-2007, 02:47 AM
picking on Blob is the best entertainment available.
Come on now, where the hell do you live?
Florida_Bronco
03-04-2007, 02:50 AM
Come on now, where the hell do you live?
Clearwater Florida, just like it says under my name.
ZachKC
03-04-2007, 02:55 AM
Clearwater Florida, just like it says under my name.
Can I recommend a hobby? Me personally? I love music and taking pictures.
Florida_Bronco
03-04-2007, 02:57 AM
Can I recommend a hobby? Me personally? I love music and taking pictures.
I got my hobbies, but the current weather down here prevents me from enjoying them today. Maybe tommorrow if it clears up some.
Taco John
03-04-2007, 03:19 AM
Bwahahahaha.
What a liar you are.
You ****ing **** your pants when we drafted him because he was the next monster LT.
When it became clear after year one, he was never going to be LT, you defended him as badly as you bashed Plummer.
When the season ended and everyone and their mother saw that Foster sucked monkey nuts, you didnt think he would be cut or traded.
It wasnt until he was actually traded that you conceed that he was a colossal bust. COLOSSAL. The Walking QB Concussion is gone and now you are trying revisionist history.
Sell that **** somewhere else.
Well, anyway, I'm shrugging my shoulders over the move. I had high hopes for Foster, they didn't pan out. I am suprised that Shanahan moved him. I figured that he'd try him on the inside before he gave up on a number one pick. I still don't think he was as bad as a lot of people here say. But I'm ok that he's gone, other than now I need to find a new adopt a Bronco.
maven
03-04-2007, 03:29 AM
Hey played ok in Denver since he's been here. The fumbles were annoying, but the tripping over his own feet. I don't know, but that was ****ing irritating. It seemed like every time this guy was poised for a huge run or a nice gain, he'd stumble over his ****ing feet! Was it the laces? The grass? The sunshine? The smoking hot cheerleaders dancing on the sidelines? WTF!!! I dunno, but that drove me ****ing nuts!
wabbit
03-04-2007, 04:14 AM
Tatum Bell never did **** against Kansas City. I was wrong for ever fearing the guy.
TJ, can't you make this Bloated Bet-welching Bed-wetting Broncos Bashing Bull****ter live up to his bet...I was going to say 'live up to his word', but that is already a flood of water past the honor gate.
ZachKC
03-04-2007, 04:22 AM
TJ, can't you make this Bloated Bet-welching Bed-wetting Broncos Bashing Bull****ter live up to his bet...I was going to say 'live up to his word', but that is already a flood of water past the honor gate.
He was actually encouraged by mods of OM to come back...
Interesting tidbit I thought...
wabbit
03-04-2007, 04:34 AM
He was actually encouraged my mods of OM to come back...
Interesting tidbit I thought...
Is this true, Taco??
Kaylore
03-04-2007, 05:28 AM
In my last two forays into the poop-hole known as ChiefsPlanet I've noticed Bob has become very bitter and angry. He know his team sucks and that we are improving and it's eating him and a lot of the people over there up inside. There team is dying and deep down they know they will always be miserable losers.
ZachKC
03-04-2007, 05:32 AM
There team is dying and deep down they know they will always be miserable losers.
The drama... ROFL!
Taco John
03-04-2007, 06:53 AM
Is this true, Taco??
Not that I know of. If anyone is encouraging him to come back, it sure as hell isn't me. He made a bet, and he should honor that bet. Clearly, he doesn't have any honor, because he can't make it through the start of free agency before he welched on the bet. Surely he won't make it through the season without impugning his honor any further.
Kaylore
03-04-2007, 07:17 AM
Once he figures out he has no honor to defend he'll realize there's no point. I just hope his masturbation fantasies distract him a little longer.
rbackfactory80
03-04-2007, 11:29 AM
The year we played Pitt in the Championship game Tatum was nasty. Anderson would tire them out and bell would explode on them. He just cant do it by himself. If we had a big bruiser he would be a sick change of pace guy.
Florida_Bronco
03-04-2007, 12:01 PM
He was actually encouraged by mods of OM to come back...
Interesting tidbit I thought...
I heard about that, and I also got the other side of the story from the Mod. What Bob did was take 1 statement made in jest and twist it around it him being encouraged to come back.
Play2win
03-04-2007, 01:16 PM
:yayaya:
I am VERY pleased to see the Broncos ending the Tatum Bell experiment. I had had it up to my eyeballs with his fumbles and completely lost all confidence in the guy. The worst was the San Francisco game where he fumbled the ball and then just laid there not bothering to even ATTEMPT to recover it. Yes, I know the refs blew the whistle, and then later GAVE San Francisco the ball because someone "recovered" it after the whistle blew and they needed to save face somehow. Nevertheless, watching Bell just lay there, knowing he didn't have the ball in his hands and doing NOTHING about it irked me to no end. I was already at my tipping point with the guy, and that pushed me over the edge.
I'm more than happy to move up Mike Bell on the chart. I don't think he's the final solution, but I like him much better than fumBell. I'm looking forward to seeing us bring in someone in both free agency and via draft (or maybe a trade), and I'm happy to know that we don't have to rely on Tatum any longer.
TATUM... SEE YA... And I WOULDN'T WANT TO BE YA!!!
Odysseus
03-06-2007, 02:18 AM
He was actually encouraged by mods of OM to come back...
Interesting tidbit I thought...
Which mod?
Blueflame
03-06-2007, 02:38 AM
Not that I know of. If anyone is encouraging him to come back, it sure as hell isn't me. He made a bet, and he should honor that bet. Clearly, he doesn't have any honor, because he can't make it through the start of free agency before he welched on the bet. Surely he won't make it through the season without impugning his honor any further.
This is the way I look at it, too... if he wasn't going to honor the bet, he shouldn't have made it in the first place.
errand
03-06-2007, 09:35 AM
He really handled everything well considering he replaced Portis, took his number, and even wanted to wear number 7 on his Jersey. Despite all this, Tatum never acted lame or got all pissy-pants about splitting time and just did his best. That's really all you can ask of someone.
Maybe it's just me....
I've noticed that TJ will always say good riddance to people who have actually produced for us and were good team players and call their starting in Denver an "experiment".
But I cannot recall him ever calling the players he likes (most specifically the QB's he likes) tenure as a starter as an experiment when they are kicked to the curb.
Tatum wasn't on our roster because he was an experiment TJ...he was a talented player who for whatever reason didn't become the player Mike envisioned him to be......
BroncoFiend
03-06-2007, 09:45 AM
Maybe it's just me....
I've noticed that TJ will always say good riddance to people who have actually produced for us and were good team players and call their starting in Denver an "experiment".
But I cannot recall him ever calling the players he likes (most specifically the QB's he likes) tenure as a starter as an experiment when they are kicked to the curb.
Tatum wasn't on our roster because he was an experiment TJ...he was a talented player who for whatever reason didn't become the player Mike envisioned him to be......
By 'not being the player Mike envisioned him to be' do you mean; fumbled too much, didn't get the tough yards, went down on first contact too often, and danced in the backfield? Because if that's what you mean, then talented or not, I would like to join TJ in saying...SEE YA!
errand
03-06-2007, 09:46 AM
I still laugh my head off whenever TJ has the unmitigated gall to complain about any Broncos player that has produced for us, after he defended (for 4 years mind you) what was arguably the worst Bronco's QB we've seen in a decade.
errand
03-06-2007, 09:50 AM
By 'not being the player Mike envisioned him to be' do you mean; fumbled too much, didn't get the tough yards, went down on first contact too often, and danced in the backfield? Because if that's what you mean, then talented or not, I would like to join TJ in saying...SEE YA!
I'm thinking Mike believed Tatum could be a franchise RB....he evidently wasn't. No big deal to me, because I know even TJ could get 500 yards in our offensive scheme.
I'm wondering though, why TJ isn't making claims that Alex Gibbs leaving us for Atlanta is why Tatum never became that franchise back? I recall him leading the bash Dennison army singing the doomsayer's song, and as usual, he was wrong.
fontaine
03-06-2007, 10:07 AM
I still laugh my head off whenever TJ has the unmitigated gall to complain about any Broncos player that has produced for us, after he defended (for 4 years mind you) what was arguably the worst Bronco's QB we've seen in a decade.
Are you still hung about that? Jesus, that was years ago and you still won't let go!
Hilarious!
Taco John
03-06-2007, 11:00 AM
The funny thing is, I don't give a second thought about errand's uninteresting takes around here. But then, I'm not all that interested in reading about me, and that's what half his takes revolve around.
Taco John
03-06-2007, 11:05 AM
Also, I just wanted to point out (for what it's worth) that I don't have any misgivings about doubting that Rick Dennison would be able to deliver the same kind of intense offensive line that Alex Gibbs did. In fact, while the line seems to be coached well from a fundamentals perspective, what they seem to lack is fire. I never advocated that it would be the end of the world, or as Jan Brady put it (Marsha, Marsha, Marsha!), "singing the doomsayers song," but I did think it would be a significant downgrade. I still believe it to be so.
I think Dennison is as much a Shanahan project as Tatum Bell was. Though to be fair to Bell, I can understand why Tatum Bell had his position.
crush17
03-06-2007, 11:05 AM
:yayaya:
The worst was the San Francisco game where he fumbled the ball and then just laid there not bothering to even ATTEMPT to recover it. Yes, I know the refs blew the whistle, and then later GAVE San Francisco the ball because someone "recovered" it after the whistle blew and they needed to save face somehow.
Taco, he got hit in the head on that play and looked temp. knocked out bro.
Watch the film again. He wasn't just laying there, he was probably seeing stars.
That being said, I am not sad that he's gone.
cmhargrove
11-11-2008, 11:49 AM
bump
Northman
11-11-2008, 11:55 AM
bump
I hope you enjoy your ban CM. ;)
Hilarious!
BMF Bronco
11-11-2008, 12:01 PM
I hope you enjoy your ban CM. ;)
Hilarious!
It is funnier than hell though
Northman
11-11-2008, 12:14 PM
It is funnier than hell though
Yes it is. :~ohyah!:
Garcia Bronco
11-11-2008, 12:17 PM
Lol
BroncoBuff
11-11-2008, 01:38 PM
I can barely believe this is happening ... he can't be in football shape, no way he plays this week.
montrose
11-11-2008, 01:49 PM
I can barely believe this is happening ... he can't be in football shape, no way he plays this week.
Schefter reported he's expected to be in uniform - likely splitting carries with Hillis and Pope.
Ratboy
11-11-2008, 02:44 PM
Come on people. Tatum Bell wasn't horrible. I much rather have him than Javon Walker or Trevor Pryce who talked **** on their way out.
Popps
11-11-2008, 02:56 PM
I can barely believe this is happening ... he can't be in football shape, no way he plays this week.
What part of "going to the Superbowl" don't you understand?
theAPAOps5
11-11-2008, 02:59 PM
Come on people. Tatum Bell wasn't horrible. I much rather have him than Javon Walker or Trevor Pryce who talked **** on their way out.
I agree with you except for one thing. He stole from a fellow player. That just doesn't sit well in a locker room.
cutthemdown
11-11-2008, 03:17 PM
I agree with you except for one thing. He stole from a fellow player. That just doesn't sit well in a locker room.
or any room for that matter.
He's going to have to say I was mad, I wanted to get even, I didn't think it through, it was stupid, I'm ashamed, will you guys give me a shot to prove I'm not a thief and can be a good teammate.
People really have a high capacity to forgive, it's in our nature as long as the transgression isn't too bad. I think Tatum deserves a second chance to prove he's a good teammate, I don't know if he can help, but it can't hurt.
ksBRONCOfan
11-11-2008, 03:59 PM
I agree with you except for one thing. He stole from a fellow player. That just doesn't sit well in a locker room.
I heard the signing was pending a security enhancement in the locker room!
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tsiguy96
11-11-2008, 04:34 PM
I can barely believe this is happening ... he can't be in football shape, no way he plays this week.
do you people honestly think football players looking for jobs dont train and try to keep in shape? i gaurantee you they train HARDER then current NFL players in-season.
ksBRONCOfan
11-11-2008, 04:38 PM
do you people honestly think football players looking for jobs dont train and try to keep in shape? i gaurantee you they train HARDER then current NFL players in-season.
But football shape is completely different. All the players talk about needing to actually practice and play to get into football shape, not just working out.
elsid13
11-11-2008, 04:41 PM
But football shape is completely different. All the players talk about needing to actually practice and play to get into football shape, not just working out.
Dude he was across the street in the park and changed drills every time the horn blew.
lazarus4444
11-11-2008, 06:03 PM
Disgusting. The Broncos have stooped to an all new low by signing somebody who tackles himself and fumbles constantly. I'd rather have Hillis starting at HB for the rest of the year because i have a LOT more confidence in him.
tsiguy96
11-11-2008, 06:07 PM
Disgusting. The Broncos have stooped to an all new low by signing somebody who tackles himself and fumbles constantly. I'd rather have Hillis starting at HB for the rest of the year because i have a LOT more confidence in him.
correction: fumbles less (percentage wise) then the broncos are this year. 1 fumble for every 54 carries, as opposed to current broncos fumble every 44.
Inkana7
11-11-2008, 06:08 PM
correction: fumbles less (percentage wise) then the broncos are this year. 1 fumble for every 54 carries, as opposed to current broncos fumble every 44.
HES AWESOME
tsiguy96
11-11-2008, 06:13 PM
HES AWESOME
never said hes awesome, but he is certainly better tehn anyone else we have active right now, and if it will help us win the division title (which having a single real running back on the roster will as opposed to not having one), then im all for it, and you guys should be too. but youre too busy pulling the usual orange mane hate every bronco on the team business that you cant see it.
DBroncos4life
11-11-2008, 06:17 PM
I can barely believe this is happening ... he can't be in football shape, no way he plays this week.
Game shape? Whats that matter if you ask 75% of the posters here he will slip on a blade of grass and fumble the ball. Pretty sure he could do that after sitting out 6 years
HitEmCold
11-11-2008, 06:43 PM
cool, I don't need to change my avatar:thumbs:
Ratboy
11-11-2008, 06:45 PM
cool, I don't need to change my avatar:thumbs:
Make sure you change it to #40 ;)
Tombstone RJ
11-11-2008, 07:14 PM
All he should be working on this week is how he grips the ball. That's it. That is all Bobby Turner should be coaching Bell on. Let him get some snaps in and get a feel for getting back into a practice routine. Then come Sunday, tell him anything is possible and he should be focused and ready to play.
Obviously it took 4 guys going down before they brought in BELL so this should not be viewed as anything but a band-aid. Anybody available is nothing but a band-aid so I don't see this as a big deal. Our running game is hurting and no, Bell is not gonna save it, but then nobody else would either. More then likely he will get plenty of carries with minimal gains but you know he is gonna break a few long ones too. I think the offense around him will be much better this time so I don't think he could be worse then before. If anything, I think the better players around him will only help him. But let's face the facts, Cutlers offense is getting a new coat of paint but it's still the same car underneath. Expect 75% passing plays until Young is 100% healthy.
The Dread Pirate Roberts
11-12-2008, 08:17 AM
Somehow I suspect he's the #3 guy until Hillis and Pope show they can't get it done. If either of them step up, I think Bell remains the #3 guy.
cmhargrove
11-12-2008, 08:23 AM
Obviously it took 4 guys going down before they brought in BELL so this should not be viewed as anything but a band-aid. Anybody available is nothing but a band-aid so I don't see this as a big deal. Our running game is hurting and no, Bell is not gonna save it, but then nobody else would either. More then likely he will get plenty of carries with minimal gains but you know he is gonna break a few long ones too. I think the offense around him will be much better this time so I don't think he could be worse then before. If anything, I think the better players around him will only help him. But let's face the facts, Cutlers offense is getting a new coat of paint but it's still the same car underneath. Expect 75% passing plays until Young is 100% healthy.
I agree, but we haven't had anyone help us in the run game all year. Pittman was our best as a "posession" type of back. Selvin has just been totally f'ed up and hasn't shown anything (even when healthy). Andre had his shot and couldn't hold on to the ball. I love Hillis, but he's no feature back.
Tatum has the real shot to be successful on the right play calls. Hopefully his desire and physical ability is still there.
Taco John
11-12-2008, 08:57 AM
The fumble train has pulled into the station.
ALL OFFBOARD!
rbackfactory80
11-12-2008, 09:19 AM
He gave Shanny a deal on his wireless service.