Al Wilson and the Lions?

[KCbroncos]

Any of you know the details to the ESPN insider report regarding this? Maybe for pick #2, but not sure that's even worth it.

[Clockwork Orange]

??

First I've heard of the Broncos entertaining the idea of trading Wilson. I can say this, though, if it were to happen, it wouldn't be for the Lions first rounder.

[12th man]

What the hell?! If we trade Al Wilson I will be pissed!

[DomCasual]

What the hell?! If we trade Al Wilson I will be pissed!

You wouldn't trade Wilson for the #2 pick in the draft?

Seriously, there's no way it's true. But if it was, I'd have to ask, "Where do I sign?"

[SoonerBronco]

Lions want Wilson
<Mar. 2> Although the Lions feel they fared well in the deal that sent cornerback Dre' Bly to Denver, landing offensive tackle George Foster and tailback Tatum Bell, the veteran player they had hoped to get in the trade was Wilson, writes ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli.
Detroit head coach Rod Marinelli was really disappointed with the middle linebacker position in 2006 and felt Wilson would have solved the problem in his Cover 2 scheme. The Broncos consistently rebuffed the Lions' efforts to have Wilson included in the trade discussions. But no one should be surprised if Detroit makes another run at Wilson, although the odds of prying him away from the Broncos are slim.

Trade him??? ONLY if we get #2....

[Hotrod]

For the #2 pick...........sold

[(Jae)]

No..............................HELL NO.....................

[bpc]

Detroit really wants Al Wilson. Slap would love this if we could stick at #21 and pick up Willis.

I'm worried about it leadership-wise. Al is the heart and soul of that defense even with Champ and Lynch.

#2 would be a interesting proposition but I can't see Detroit giving that up in all honesty.

[DTBLAS]

For #2 or their 2nd and 3rd i'll think about it.

[BizzyBone7]

Gotta love the offseason

[Ratboy]

**** that.

[Clockwork Orange]

Ah, so this isn't a case of the Broncos shopping him, it's the Lions pursuing him.

[maven]

#2 overall pick? C'mon people. Now maybe a 2nd or 3rd round pick. Then yes a trade could happen.

[crush17]

ya really **** that ish.

[NFLBRONCO]

I'm for it Al is damaged goods.

[Kaylore]

I'd take it. For the second overall? I'd take it immediately. Then we would use our third and other first to trade up and take Patrick Willis and we'd be fine. Wow that would be sick.

Anyway, the aren't going to part with their first overall pick.

[The MVPlaya]

Al Wilson is not worth a 2nd and 3rd round pick. If we were to trade him for a 2nd and 3rd round pick, that means we're rebuilding from ground up and that's not the case.

As for the #2 pick...damn this is a tough one. I remember when Al Wilson was out and the defense did take a dive...

I dunno this is a real tough one if you ask me.

[broncsyanks]

what a load of crap idea this is.

[Rascal]

They won't give up the #2 overall, but I'd take their second rounder.

I love Wilson, but I realize that his shoulders are ****ed up and he won't ever be the force we think he is as fans. Plus he has what 3 years left?

[missingnumber7]

Screw getting rid of Al...lets sign Joey Porter and then switch to the 3-4 and have an an even better set of LB's

[maven]

I'd make the deal for a 2nd round pick also. Need to get younger and bigger at the LB positions.

[DomCasual]

Come on. Is there honestly a person here that wouldn't pull the trigger on Al Wilson for the #2 pick in the draft? You're kidding, right?

Come on, guys - not even Matt Millen would do that.

[plummershelper]

I'd pull it for the 2nd. He missed a lot of tackles last year. I realize he's the heart and soul of the defense, but I was disappointed with his production.

[Hotrod]

Come on. Is there honestly a person here that wouldn't pull the trigger on Al Wilson for the #2 pick in the draft? You're kidding, right?

Come on, guys - not even Matt Millen would do that.

Only the ones who make decissions with their hearts.

Al has ALOT of hard hard miles on him at this point. Hes still a good MLB but he miss ALOT of tackles last year because he does not wrap up anymore. I think it prolly has to do with his shoulders and neck. Whatever the reason he tries to just knock people down instead of sure tackles which is what you really want from that position.

[CBF1]

I am a huge Al Wilson fan, but if the Lions were having a brain fart and offered either their 1st round or a package of 2 and 3rd round picks I would be all over it. Al is a good LB for our system, but he is past his prime, injury issues are also a concern.

This will never happen.

[fontaine]

Only the ones who make decissions with their hearts.

Al has ALOT of hard hard miles on him at this point. He's still a good MLB but he miss ALOT of tackles last year because he does not wrap up anymore. I think it prolly has to do with his shoulders and neck. Whatever the reason he tries to just knock people down instead of sure tackles which is what you really want from that position.

That's just wrong Hotrod! Al was playing with a busted thumb which was broken and required surgery this offseason. It was the same thumb where he had surgery before. That screwed up his tackling and he couldn't wrap up.

;)

[broncolife]

YES! I would love for us to trade Al. I think he is one of the most overated players on our team. He did real good his contract year and has been a big disappointment since. Al was the heart of the D back then, but I think Lynch has taken that role.

[NFLBRONCO]

I'd send Al our 3rd for Detriots 2nd and 3rd.

[ZONA]

[QUOTE=CBF1;1498971]I am a huge Al Wilson fan, but if the Lions were having a brain fart and offered either their 1st round or a package of 2 and 3rd round picks I would be all over it. Al is a good LB for our system, but he is past his prime, injury issues are also a concern. [QUOTE]


You said it. He is definately past his prime years and I would deal him for a high 2nd round pick in a blink of an eye. Don't even have to offer me the 3rd rounder, although I would take it. I would send Jake and Al wilson to Detroit for the #2 over all pick. I have a feeling though that You might see Quinn or Ware go there at #2.

Nice dream though

[atomicbloke]

Shanny will lose his team is he trades Al.

The vets will be pissed about the Plummer fiasco already, then another leader Rod Smith takes a huge pay cut.... and then Big Al is shipped off.... the team might revolt against Shanny....

The next 2 years are either SuperBowl years or rebuilding years....

Shanny is trying to sign expensive FA's as if we are making an SB push and he is also trying to get rid of vets as if we are rebuilding.... that would send mixed confused signals to the team....

[Drek]

If we could get Patrick Willis to replace him I'd be all for it. Willis will be a better peak player and Wilson is on the downside. Finding a team to take that contract off our hands would be too good to be true.

I'd do it for their 2nd, but I'd push for 2 overall in exchange for Wilson and our #21 pick.

[Dukes]

If it was for the #2 pick I would do that in an instant. We could pick up our franchise RB at 2, and then get Willis to replace Wilson with the other 1st.

Ahhhh if only...........

[shakenbake]

I would trade Al for Detriots 2nd in a heart beat. I agree that he is important from a leadership standpoint and is consitantly a good player but I've never viewed him as a big time playmaker. 8years in the league and he has 5 INT's and 8 forced fumbles. Those aren't the greatest #'s

[Merlin]

Al has ALOT of hard hard miles on him at this point. Hes still a good MLB but he miss ALOT of tackles last year because he does not wrap up anymore. I think it prolly has to do with his shoulders and neck.
Something certainly seemed wrong last yr. Especially mid-season. He missed far too many tackles because he failed to wrap and instead tried to lay the wood. He may have been injured. However, if you can get a #2, then you trade him even if he is healthy. A second and third rounder would be interesting considering they are very high picks for each round. As to losing the veterans or it looking like the team is rebuilding, I don't see it. Not with Bly. With all the picks they would be able to truly build that DL and add a couple of young safeties to boot.

[16-JakE-16]

They won't give up the #2 overall, but I'd take their second rounder.

I love Wilson, but I realize that his shoulders are ****ed up and he won't ever be the force we think he is as fans. Plus he has what 3 years left?

What the hell is wrong with you guys? It's amazing what the draft hype really does to some people. Al Wilson is a borderline tier 1 linebacker in this league and the leader of the defense. How could you possibly be willing to trade him for a 2nd round pick, regardless of how early it is. For anyone willing to support that trade, do yourself and look at the miniscule percentage of high quality players that come out of the second round.

[bronco militia]

big al re-injured his thumb and has been playing with two bad shoulders for about 5 years now.....

[DomCasual]

If we could get Patrick Willis to replace him I'd be all for it. Willis will be a better peak player and Wilson is on the downside. Finding a team to take that contract off our hands would be too good to be true.

I'd do it for their 2nd, but I'd push for 2 overall in exchange for Wilson and our #21 pick.

That deal would be sweet. This is Matt Millen we're talking about. Someone should get him on the phone.

We could even throw in Kenyon Martin's contract.

[DomCasual]

What the hell is wrong with you guys? It's amazing what the draft hype really does to some people. Al Wilson is a borderline tier 1 linebacker in this league and the leader of the defense. How could you possibly be willing to trade him for a 2nd round pick, regardless of how early it is. For anyone willing to support that trade, do yourself and look at the miniscule percentage of high quality players that come out of the second round.

Gosh, man - it's not like we're talking about Tedi Bruschi here. Don't get so worked up.

Sheesh.

[Rock Chalk]

NOT FOR ALL THE PICKS IN THE DRAFT.

I want to kick everyone's ass that's on board with this idea.

When Taco told me earlier in IM I wanted to stab him in the face for even suggesting it even though it wasnt his reporting.

[Taco John]

I'm just glad I never installed that virtual knife peripheral on my notebook.

[Man-Goblin]

This would never happen, but I gotta say the Broncos have someone right now that would make a PHENOMENOL MLB right now. He's wearing #55.

[ward63]

I"m a HUGE Al Homer and I really want him to stay his entire career, so that being...I dno't want him to go at all! #2 overall...I'll take it, but 2nd rounder, no thanks! Shanny isn't gonna let him go because you never know...we may not get Pat Willis, then what? We have D.J. going to MLB and then the LB's are all messed up. Plus the team would be very upset about all this. So overall, this would be a HUGE mistake in my book.

[Don Flamenco]

This would never happen, but I gotta say the Broncos have someone right now that would make a PHENOMENOL MLB right now. He's wearing #55.

How can you say that when #55 can't shed blocks and hasn't shown any emotion to have the leadership qualities of a MLB

[Broncojef]

How can you say that when #55 can't shed blocks and hasn't shown any emotion to have the leadership qualities of a MLB

If we can get to the #2 overall for Al I'd have to shake his hand and say thanks for the ride Adrian Peterson would be wearing a Bronco jersey if it was up to me and I'd use the second first rounder for the stud LB in a heartbeat.

[RMT]

What if the Lions and Broncos found a 3rd trade partner (in the 5-10 pick range) ... the Broncos send the Lions Al and the 3rd team involved throws in a 2nd rounder, the Broncos get the 3rd team's pick, and the 3rd team gets the Lions #2 overall pick?

[anthonypacino]

Nobody, not even Millen and the Lions would give up the #2 for Al Wilson. He's good but come on.

[Broncojef]

What if the Lions and Broncos found a 3rd trade partner (in the 5-10 pick range) ... the Broncos send the Lions Al and the 3rd team involved throws in a 2nd rounder, the Broncos get the 3rd team's pick, and the 3rd team gets the Lions #2 overall pick?

No thanks, Al is the heart of our Defense. You want him you have to overpay and I'd only do the deal for the #2 overall with Detroit. Anything less than that and I'd walk away.

[ludo21]

#2 pick?

2nd and 3rd rounder.

Heck ?YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSss~~

[freak6]

I wouldn't trade him for the #2 pick in the draft. What would we do with it? Draft a rookie that might help us next year but probably not really until 08?

I think we can win the Super Bowl next season. But not without Al Wilson. Therefore, no thanks.

[GonzoLays]

Trading Al Wilson for draft picks is a lateral (or worse) move. He is an all-pro at a premium position in the NFL. What more can you ask for? It is not as if he is on his last legs.

[orinjkrush]

no loyalty for anyone anymore.
detroit broncos, yeah sure.

[ludo21]

I wouldn't trade him for the #2 pick in the draft. What would we do with it? Draft a rookie that might help us next year but probably not really until 08?

I think we can win the Super Bowl next season. But not without Al Wilson. Therefore, no thanks.



lol thats funny.

We could do soooo much with that #2 pick..

oooo the possibilities!!! im drooling now ;D

[GonzoLays]

lol thats funny.

We could do soooo much with that #2 pick..

oooo the possibilities!!! im drooling now ;D

You trade Al Wilson and the front seven is leaderless. And who exactly is suppose to replace him? A certain player that might or might not be there at 21?

Its all ridiculous.

[Goobzilla]

Al has been more bark than bite since his big payday. If this offer was really on the table, I would take time off from work and drive him to Detroit.

[Broncojef]

no loyalty for anyone anymore.
detroit broncos, yeah sure.

Al is making a ton of money on our salary cap, he's a good leader but he is getting older in the tooth and has been hurt alot and its starting to add up. If you are going to get talent that could be found at #2 its too much to pass up IMO. I still like Al but my loyalty remains with the Broncos and not one player. Guys like Al are special guys but no player is greater than the team and if we get better in the deal I'm for it. Produce or its time to move on.

[BroncoBuff]

I know we're supposed to love Al Wilson, but I'll never forget him dramatically pointing out a teammate's mistake while Marvin Harrison actually got up and scored a freaking touchdown.

The Lions 2nd and 3rd rounders are fine with me ... especially if we can package for Patrick Willis. The biggest downside is that Al is Champ's best friend.

[bdv]

Shanny will lose his team is he trades Al.

The vets will be pissed about the Plummer fiasco already, then another leader Rod Smith takes a huge pay cut.... and then Big Al is shipped off.... the team might revolt against Shanny....

Shenny should simply explain to the vets that they are obviously trying to win a Super Bowl in '07... in '08... '09, '10, '11, and every year during the Cutler/Shanahan era. :bandwagon

Shanny wants football immortality! A dynasty to be admired for a hundred years. It's time to stop ****ing around and start winning Super Bowls again. And while we're at it, is it too much to ask to have just ONE undefeated season? :ouwknow:

A future like this, I believe, is what it would take to satisfy our coach. :strong:

Stay ambitious, Mike! :thumbs:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Shanahan

-Tim

[chaz]

Shanny will lose his team is he trades Al.

The vets will be pissed about the Plummer fiasco already, then another leader Rod Smith takes a huge pay cut.... and then Big Al is shipped off.... the team might revolt against Shanny....

The next 2 years are either SuperBowl years or rebuilding years....

Shanny is trying to sign expensive FA's as if we are making an SB push and he is also trying to get rid of vets as if we are rebuilding.... that would send mixed confused signals to the team....

i doubt there would be any mutiny....i think you're being a bit too extreme. Players always talk about how the NFL is a business, and thats how they'd look at this move. How do you know they're mad about plummer? or that smith is taking a pay cut? that is none of the other player's business....

as for the next two years...i dont think shanahan is mixing any signals, and i dont think he ever has: he wants to win, and win now. That is why he is getting the best new talent for the team possible...moving up in the first would be to get an impact player......

[Play2win]

Sure, why not? While we're at it we probably should have traded ATWATER 5 years before the end of his career, and why not CHAMP in another 5 years, and we should have traded GRADISHAR, and TOM JACKSON would have gotten good return, and most of all, we should have traded DS49 while we could have...


All for draft picks– READ: POTENTIAL

[chaz]

Trading Al Wilson for draft picks is a lateral (or worse) move. He is an all-pro at a premium position in the NFL. What more can you ask for? It is not as if he is on his last legs.

i would say he is on his last legs....he's shoulders have been shot for the last few seasons, his play has declined although his passion has not, and he seems to break his thumb annually now....he is still a good player but i think that if we could get a high draft pick for him it would be in the best interest of the team to take it.....with that said its not gonna happen

[Tombstone RJ]

YES! I would love for us to trade Al. I think he is one of the most overated players on our team. He did real good his contract year and has been a big disappointment since. Al was the heart of the D back then, but I think Lynch has taken that role.


You can't be serious?

[enjolras]

There must be some seriously good crack running around these forums. Al is still one of the top 5 middle linebackers in the league. You just don't trade that away...ever.

[Tombstone RJ]

If the Lions (Millen) is stupid enough to give the Broncos the #2 pick in the draft for Wilson, then yes, trade him away. That would be a steal on par with the Cowboys/Vikings trade that involved Herschel Walker.

But, anything less than that trade would be somewhat disrespectful to the heart and soul of the Broncos defense for the last 5+ years.

[DomCasual]

lol thats funny.

We could do soooo much with that #2 pick..

oooo the possibilities!!! im drooling now ;D

Seriously! I am honestly really, really surprised that anyone is even seriously arguing they wouldn't do that deal. Again, it would be such a one-sided deal, even Matt Millen wouldn't do it. Heck, if you morphed Matt Millen and Isiah Thomas into a love child, said child wouldn't do it.

That's not to say Al Wilson isn't a solid player. But we're talking about the #2 pick in the draft. Trade out of it, and stockpile a bunch of picks, if nothing else.

You might hit and you might miss at #21. The odds of you missing at #2 are way, way low. Even if you get someone the equal of Al Wilson in terms of value, you'd still be getting 8 more years on a career.

It's the #2 pick in the draft!

[atomicbloke]

If the Raiders offer the #1 pick and their 1st round pick next year to the Patriots for Tom Brady, do you think Bellichick would accept it? Ofcourse not.

You just CANNOT trade away some players for any compensation whatsoever.

Al Wilson is that player for us. He is the Broncos. The team would move to Boise, ID before trading him away.

[Arkansas Bronco]

This would never happen, but I gotta say the Broncos have someone right now that would make a PHENOMENOL MLB right now. He's wearing #55.

Dude has the Body and the speed but he doesnt have the awarness, the smarts, what ever you want to call it to try to take Al's job. Even though Lynch is there the mlb is the qb of the def. and I would put no faith at all in DJ calling def. audibles.

[SureShot]

We would never ever get the #2 pick in the draft for a MLB.

But if we did......

There is quite the collection of stars picked #2 in NFL history.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/twos

[Gcver2ver3]

if you guys think the lions would even consider trading the #2 overall pick for Al Wilson you're crazy....

But if they did....which they won't....we'd have to make that deal....that's not even debatable IMO

[Tombstone RJ]

If the Raiders offer the #1 pick and their 1st round pick next year to the Patriots for Tom Brady, do you think Bellichick would accept it? Ofcourse not.

You just CANNOT trade away some players for any compensation whatsoever.

Al Wilson is that player for us. He is the Broncos. The team would move to Boise, ID before trading him away.

That's not really a fair comparison. Brady is a SB MVP QB and has three rings. As good as Wilson is, it's just not the same thing. Bellichick wouldn't do the trade because Brady is arguable the best QB in the game right now, is perfect for the Patriot's system and is going the be in the HOF when it's all said and done.

As much as I love Al Wilson, he ain't all that.

Again, if the Lions offer the #2 pick in the draft for Wilson, you take it. Even if the Broncos have to give up their first round pick, you still take it. There's just too much value there to pass up.

[chanesaw]

I'm a huge Wilson fan and I want him to retire a Bronco. Detroit can keep all of their picks. I wouldn't trade him for anybody.

[gunns]

I don't know how I'd feel about the loss of Wilson but the #2 sounds very appealing. In fantasy land if we got McGahee and Kearney and we didn't sell the pick I'd go for Joe Thomas.

[Sgt Sauce]

Did someone really say Lynch was the heart of our defense? I'd take the all pro MLB who is 6 yrs younger, and still has several good years left in him. We just need to add some fresh beef up front, let Champ and Dre Bly lock people down, and continue to let our fast LBs make plays.


Also congrats to Chuk for getting paid..

[maven]

The #2 overall pick is not involved in this discussion for a MLB. Get real folks. And for any of you who would contemplate sending Al for the #2 overall pick for more than 1 second, you're a homer. Now a 2nd or 3rd round pick. Then you're talking reality.

[footstepsfrom#27]

This will never happen. Who comes up with this stuff? ???

[listopencil]

No.

[Dedhed]

There must be some seriously good crack running around these forums. Al is still one of the top 5 middle linebackers in the league. You just don't trade that away...ever.

Unless someone offers you the #2 overall pick. Come on people, I love Al Wilson as much as anyone, but this would be a complete and utter no brainer. To get the #2 player in the draft (in reality #1 b/c we're not looking for a QB) for a guy who has maybe two good years left would be insane value. The kind you would have to be a complete fool to pass up.

[manchambo]

I hate to say this, but I am embarrassed about the fact that this thread will eventually end up on on the Planet as an example of what ridiculous homers we have here. First someone suggests that the Lions might trade the #2 pick for Al Wilson, then several people suggest that we ought not to take it if it's offered. It's hard to say which is less in touch with what we like to call reality.

[SonOfLe-loLang]

Detroit would never ever ever offer their #2 pick for a 30 year old middle linebacker with tread. He'll be a bronco and that will be fine.

[ro_50]

That is garbage, the Lions would not trade a No. 2 overall pick for a middle linebacker, regardless the fact that Al Wilson is a damn good linebacker.

It has to be for the second-round draft pick.

[Orange_Beard]

One word "MATT FRIGGIN MILLEN", could. Maybe swap picks and we move up.

[sirhcyennek81]

Who in the draft is better? Who on the FA Market is better? If the answer is no one, you stay with what you have. #2 pick or not. You realize for a team with limited cap, that paying the 2nd selection overall would be problematic.

:Broncos:

[KCbroncos]

Wow, my post really got some of you fired up. Thing to remember is this came from Len Pasta-Belly. It probably amounted to the Lions saying we'll take Al for Bly, Shanny telling Millen to stick it and end of story.

[baja]

Come on. Is there honestly a person here that wouldn't pull the trigger on Al Wilson for the #2 pick in the draft? You're kidding, right?

Come on, guys - not even Matt Millen would do that.

OK we will throw in Darius Watts, Matt whatsay?

[Rock Chalk]

Denver's not giving up Wilson. Quit dreaming about unrealistic scenarious. Denver turned down ever offer for Wilson and Im fairly confident that it would take something of extraordinary value for anyone to make Wilson leave the city of Denver.

[SpringStein]

The more realistic rumor I heard was us sending Al, #21, and one of the thirds for #2.

[mattob14]

The more realistic rumor I heard was us sending Al, #21, and one of the thirds for #2.

That's closer, but I still don't think it's enough for #2. People don't realize the value that pick has. If we played our cards right, we could turn that into Patrick Willis (a younger, more athletic version of Wilson) AND Laron Landry. That would be two huge building blocks for a dominant defense. Arizona (Thomas), Houston (Peterson), and Minnesota (Johnson) would all be calling about that pick. We could probably trade down to any af those teams for their top-10 pick, a high third and a first next year. That's a great package for Al, #21, and our third. I wouldn't trade Al straight up for a 2nd, though. We'd have to move up to grab Willis to replace him and we need to use that first on other areas.

[SportinOne]

You don't make trades for guys like Bly and Wilkinson if you are trying to rebuild. We are obviously trying to win now, and i'm not sure if that's the best thing with such a young qb. The problem is that we have Bailey at his peak right now and a bunch of other players on the last of their good years.

And yeah, Al Wilson is washed up, not John Lynch. Do you even watch the games? Yeah Al Wilson fails to wrap up every once in a while but at least he makes plays, or even gets on the screen. The only time you usually see Lynch is when he's throwing his arms up wondering who got beat. (hint: it's usually him) Then there's that one San Diego game per year that he steps up and plays like it's 1999.

You don't trade Al, you just don't.

[SportinOne]

I love the way Millen talks all confident now that he thinks he made a great trade. What does he honestly believe Al Wilsons just grow on trees?

I was actually a little dissapointed we didn't get Jason Taylor in the Wilkinson deal myself. Probably should have upped it to a 5th.

[KipCorrington25]

How about the 21st pick and Wilson for Detriot's number 2 overall?

I'd do it.

[chaz]

i love how much talk a ridiculous rumor generates.....hahaha, good ol' matt millen makes all this talk worth while

[x123z]

For a second round pick Hell yes!!

[Los Broncos]

I love Al, but for a 2nd? dam, thats a tough one.

[Dudeskey]

Damn, Al Wilson for Detoilet's #2 overall pick? If I was the Broncos GM and Matt Millen called me and offered such a deal I'd pull the trigger without hesitation.

[usedupbraids]

give wilson up that will be some dickhead ****

[Hercules Rockefeller]

The Broncos may have to restructure some of their contracts to get a high- profile player signed. Denver players who could restructure deals to help include wide receiver Rod Smith, linebacker Al Wilson (several teams have asked about him in trades) and defensive ends Courtney Brown, Ebenezer Ekuban and Kenard Lang.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_5352932

I don't remember it ever being mentioned in the past that teams were inquiring about Al. Maybe teams called, and BW and co. didn't catch wind of it, but this is surprising that all of a sudden multiple teams want to know AW's status is here in town.

[chaz]

where there's smoke there's fire? is this smoke?

[NFLBRONCO]

The more realistic rumor I heard was us sending Al, #21, and one of the thirds for #2.

How about AL 21 56 for #2?

Then draft day we can entertain offers to move down to 5-8 land a solid DL and have a high 2nd rounder and 2 or 3 3rds. This way we bolster DL in first 2 rounds. Fun to dream

[Play2win]

where there's smoke there's fire? is this smoke?

SMOKE... Yes...

But just from a bunch of Bisen Dung smoldering away in the wind...

[ND Bronco Fan]

Didn't Wabbit or some other guy with connections a few weeks ago mention something about a shake up in the line backer core and everyone started talking about Gold? Or was I dreaming?