View Full Version : 1 hour to go, prediction time!
Hercules Rockefeller
03-01-2007, 10:58 PM
Everyone out on a limb so we can all look back next week and laugh
My predictions, don't know if they will sign them, but Denver will push hard for 3 players this weekend: Kerney, Graham, and Jamal Lewis. Also, Bly has a new deal by the middle of next week.
Atlas
03-01-2007, 10:59 PM
Lewis won't be a Bronco...... I hope
Kaylore
03-01-2007, 11:00 PM
Everyone out on a limb so we can all look back next week and laugh
My predictions, don't know if they will sign them, but Denver will push hard for 3 players this weekend: Kerney, Graham, and Jamal Lewis. Also, Bly has a new deal by the middle of next week.
Ok I'll play. I like your options, but I'll say we only get one of those three.
I'll say that the Redskins surprise everyone this time and don't go crazy during free agency...for them.
Rock Chalk
03-01-2007, 11:01 PM
I predict UNC loses to Georgia Tech tonight, KU gets a #1 seed in the tourney and wins it all.
Oh, you mean football FA?
How dull. This is march, much more exciting things going on that free agency. Ah well, as you wish. I predict Denver tries but fails to upgrade the D-line, does nothing to address the safety position and does not get a RB. I do predict a bargain basement approach though.
Jens1893
03-01-2007, 11:04 PM
Wonder who´s gonna be the first to sign. Bentley signed shortly after the market opened last season.
I predict the Broncos sign Jamal Lewis. Then let the market do it's thang, for a week or two and then bargain shop for DT and in April draft a DE round one.
That would be a great 07 off-season.
Rock Chalk
03-01-2007, 11:06 PM
I dont think so HEAV.
We got Bly, thats our one big free agent. The rest will be bargain shopping. Pretty confident in that assertion.
shakenbake
03-01-2007, 11:06 PM
I predict UNC loses to Georgia Tech tonight, KU gets a #1 seed in the tourney and wins it all.
Oh, you mean football FA?
How dull. This is march, much more exciting things going on that free agency. Ah well, as you wish. I predict Denver tries but fails to upgrade the D-line, does nothing to address the safety position and does not get a RB. I do predict a bargain basement approach though.
How did you like that Texas Vs. Texas A&M last night...what a great game. Here is to the Horns taking down Kansas this Sat!!!
Rock Chalk
03-01-2007, 11:09 PM
How did you like that Texas Vs. Texas A&M last night...what a great game. Here is to the Horns taking down Kansas this Sat!!!
Tied for second best game of the season behind the Texas OSU game and tied with the Florida KU game early in the season.
All thrillers, all involving Big 12 teams.
As for the Horns taking down KU in Lawrence. That would be spectacular feat considering the only team to ever do it from the Big 12 south was A&M this year. The odds of it happening twice in one year are probably astronomical.
It does look to be a great game though.
azbroncfan
03-01-2007, 11:10 PM
Everyone out on a limb so we can all look back next week and laugh
My predictions, don't know if they will sign them, but Denver will push hard for 3 players this weekend: Kerney, Graham, and Jamal Lewis. Also, Bly has a new deal by the middle of next week.
I thought BLY had agreed to a new deal and that was part of the trade?
Hercules Rockefeller
03-01-2007, 11:13 PM
I thought BLY had agreed to a new deal and that was part of the trade?
So did I, I just haven't seen anything besides that one reference in the Bly trade thread that the NFLN reported it.
NFLBRONCO
03-01-2007, 11:14 PM
Is there any DT's in FA that would help us?
azbroncfan
03-01-2007, 11:16 PM
So did I, I just haven't seen anything besides that one reference in the Bly trade thread that the NFLN reportered it.
They mentioned it on Total access about 20 minutes ago. I'm wondering what numbers he got if it's true?
cabronco
03-01-2007, 11:22 PM
Im thinking we'll be able to get 1 of the 3 possibilities of Kerney, Graham, and Jamal Lewis. I am thinking JL, but I'd rather pick up Graham.
BroncoInferno
03-01-2007, 11:24 PM
I think we sign Graham and Lewis and then turn our eyes to the draft. With our four first day picks we go with two DL, a safety and a OT.
I dont think so HEAV.
We got Bly, thats our one big free agent. The rest will be bargain shopping. Pretty confident in that assertion.
That's just it. We don't know what the real cap numbers are. We know they where under, some say 4 Mill, other 2Mill. We know Warren restructured his deal. But we don't know how that effected the cap space. Not to mention Rod may have restructured.....
I think Shanny has one deal left then he sit's back and watches.
Rascal
03-01-2007, 11:29 PM
I predict we will trade for Thomas Jones.
broncobum6162
03-01-2007, 11:32 PM
I think we sign Graham and Lewis and then turn our eyes to the draft. With our four first day picks we go with two DL, a safety and a OT.
I like that prediction a lot! Hope it comes true. If we don't get Lewis, I like Nique Rhoades>
UboBronco
03-01-2007, 11:32 PM
I think they will go after either Chris Brown or Ahman Green at runningback. They may chase Graham and Kearney, but I am afraid the price will be too much. If we really can get something for Plummer, I would like to see go after Garcia, and somehow keep him away from the Raiders and leave them in their free-fall mode.
phibacka31
03-01-2007, 11:36 PM
Daniel Graham will be coming home by this weekend. I also believe that kerney will prol be in our uniform also. I also believe that travis henry will be our "vet Back we bring in.:D
NFLBRONCO
03-01-2007, 11:36 PM
We make a run at Kerney Graham and lose out. We land one of the DT's not sure which one.
Trade our 3rd rounder for Willis M.
phillybroncosnut
03-01-2007, 11:42 PM
I thought BLY had agreed to a new deal and that was part of the trade?
He did. They can't "officially" announce it until friday.
phillybroncosnut
03-01-2007, 11:44 PM
Wonder who´s gonna be the first to sign. Bentley signed shortly after the market opened last season.
My prediction will be Adalias Thomas signing with the 49ers.
i think we get either graham or kearny(probably graham from a price standpoint), one impact guy and then another up and coming DL like white from tampa
edit: add brad johnson and chris brown to my prediciton....four players: one impact, three solid players would be quite the haul
phillybroncosnut
03-01-2007, 11:49 PM
Kearney is gonna ask for way more then we can afford. Frankly, he's not worth that kind of money. Kearney is way to injury prone and tends to fade as the season wears on. Justin Smith got the franchise tag in Cincy which pays him $8.6 million this season. Look for Kearney to demand similiar dollars.
Anyone else here intrigued with the thought of Corey Dillon? I'm not sure what his demands will be dollar wise, but, I think he will command right around what Jamal Lewis is looking for. I'd rather have Dillon then Lewis.
Steve Prefontaine
03-01-2007, 11:49 PM
It would be fantastic if they could sign Graham and Kerney. I think they end up landing only one of them, probably Graham.
I think they will sign a free agent RB on the cheap to compete with Mike Bell and a draftee.
I think Thomas Jones will stay in Chicago. The Bears don't have many holes and therefore I don't think they are looking to add draft picks.
I hope the Broncos don't trade for McGahee.
phillybroncosnut
03-01-2007, 11:53 PM
i think we get either graham or kearny, one impact guy and then another up and coming DL like white from tampa
White is definately a good possibilty. He has great upside and I don't think he will cost more then half of what Kearny will demand.
I don't think we will land Graham. I actually think we have no shot. He will be looking for top dollar. I love Jermaine Wiggins here. The guy can put up the top numbers in TE's not named Gonzo or Gates. He won't be looking to break the bank either. He wants to get paid but wants to be with a winner just as badly. Graham already has the rings, now he is looking to cash in.
theAPAOps5
03-02-2007, 12:01 AM
I think Graham either comes home or stays in New England. I lived on the same floor in the dorms with Graham his freshman year and would run into him here and there the next 4 years. He was an awesome guy and I got the impression money was never a big thing to him. Granted he won't settle for a huge hometown discount but I think coming home would be a big sway.
Goobzilla
03-02-2007, 12:11 AM
Jeff Garcia will be a Raiduh in the next few minutes.
NFLBRONCO
03-02-2007, 12:14 AM
Channel 4 said, tonight Willis M is top RB target
DBroncos4life
03-02-2007, 12:15 AM
We will sign Garcia, Graham, and R. Smith. Then we will trade for McGahee.
Billy Clyde Puckett
03-02-2007, 12:27 AM
Graham and a safety. Maybe Brad Johnson. Will miss out on the RBs and DL and need to wait for draft and later moves.
I think our biggest push will be for Graham.
Dillon is an interesting idea.
White is definately a good possibilty. He has great upside and I don't think he will cost more then half of what Kearny will demand.
I don't think we will land Graham. I actually think we have no shot. He will be looking for top dollar. I love Jermaine Wiggins here. The guy can put up the top numbers in TE's not named Gonzo or Gates. He won't be looking to break the bank either. He wants to get paid but wants to be with a winner just as badly. Graham already has the rings, now he is looking to cash in.
you obviously know nothing about graham......
Killericon
03-02-2007, 12:36 AM
Kerney and we're done.
Dukes
03-02-2007, 12:42 AM
I think we'll get Graham, he'll take a slight paycut (from what other teams will offer him) to come home. Unfortunately I think we'll sign Jamal Lewis, but I'd much rather see Thomas Jones or Chris Brown. We'll get one of those three vet RB's.
anthonypacino
03-02-2007, 12:58 AM
How about Monte Reagor coming back to Denver?
RunSilentRunDeep
03-02-2007, 01:15 AM
I love Graham but not for $12M up front. My prediction is anyone that leaves Denver without a deal ain't coming back.
phillybroncosnut
03-02-2007, 01:20 AM
you obviously know nothing about graham......
Do I know him personally? Umm, no. Here is what I do know about Graham. He is the top UFA at the TE position. He will command more money then we will be able to offer if we want to address our RB and DE needs in FA. If we sign Graham, we won't have enough to land an impact RB or D-Lineman.
Do I know him personally? Umm, no. Here is what I do know about Graham. He is the top UFA at the TE position. He will command more money then we will be able to offer if we want to address our RB and DE needs in FA. If we sign Graham, we won't have enough to land an impact RB or D-Lineman.
since when are you some salary cap genius?? feel free to fill the rest of us in on the wealth of unshared knowledge you seem to possess.... the bottom line is that daniel graham is the best TE out there, like you said, but as others have said its not all about the money with him...he has relatives in denver, grew up here....
my favorite part of your quote was "he already has the rings, now he wants the money." oh my god...how much further up your ass could your head be....why the **** wouldnt he want to win anymore?? now he is just playing to pay the bills?? family to feed?
ward63
03-02-2007, 01:37 AM
Graham and some RB. Kerney, if he really wants to follow Johnson here!
phillybroncosnut
03-02-2007, 01:41 AM
since when are you some salary cap genius?? feel free to fill the rest of us in on the wealth of unshared knowledge you seem to possess.... the bottom line is that daniel graham is the best TE out there, like you said, but as others have said its not all about the money with him...he has relatives in denver, grew up here....
my favorite part of your quote was "he already has the rings, now he wants the money." oh my god...how much further up your ass could your head be....why the **** wouldnt he want to win anymore?? now he is just playing to pay the bills?? family to feed?
Dude! Who pissed in your cheerios? Settle down Beavis, you'll pop a blood vessel.
Do you really think TE is our top priority? Do you think it should be? I'm giving my opinion (there's a noval concept, an opinion on a message board), that I don't think TE is where we should blow our load. If we can sign Graham and still have the money we need to sign our biggest needs (DL and RB) then I'm all for it.
As far as saying I think Graham is looking to cash in, I'm using an educated guess. Most of the top UFA at their positions who have won championships then look to secure their future and the future of their families. That's not unheard of is it? If Graham signs for under his value then I was totally off base. However, if we give him the $8-$12 million gauranteed money he is bound to get elswhere, I think we screwed ourselves.
Relax Chaz. It's a message board filled with opinions.
Dude! Who pissed in your cheerios? Settle down Beavis, you'll pop a blood vessel.
Do you really think TE is our top priority? Do you think it should be? I'm giving my opinion (there's a noval concept, an opinion on a message board), that I don't think TE is where we should blow our load. If we can sign Graham and still have the money we need to sign our biggest needs (DL and RB) then I'm all for it.
As far as saying I think Graham is looking to cash in, I'm using an educated guess. Most of the top UFA at their positions who have won championships then look to secure their future and the future of their families. That's not unheard of is it? If Graham signs for under his value then I was totally off base. However, if we give him the $8-$12 million gauranteed money he is bound to get elswhere, I think we screwed ourselves.
Relax Chaz. It's a message board filled with opinions.
first off, i am sick and also exhausted so excuse me for being a little harsh, but we disagree here....
i think that if you go into FA only looking at certain positions you get yourselves in trouble....you look at who could help you be a better offense/defense as a whole and fit under the cap. Daniel Graham is one of if not the best run-blocking TE who can also catch (translation: he would be an asset to any RB especially at the goal-line, but would keep defense honest with being solid in the passing game). That is what makes me want him...i dont care if we have TE's already, he would make us better, probably moreso than any other offensive FA we can afford.
As for your financial statements, those were not opinions, you stated them as facts (ex: We dont have enough money to....not i dont think we....) I believe he is around 27, in the prime of his career, so i'd be very surprised if such a renowned leader doesnt think winning is important to him....
denver is known as one of the most financially creative teams in the league, so if we sign graham we'll most likely still have some gas in the tank for other FA's, not PK, but we could probably get chris brown, brad johnson, and dwayne white or some two out of three.....the cap is not as big of a deal as people make it out to be, if a player wants to be here there are ways to do it.
orange crusher
03-02-2007, 01:55 AM
I think we get Graham quickly and sign C. Brown or trade for T. Jones or McGahee. I would rather not trade for McGahee but all of the rumors have me worried. As much as I'd like to have Kerney, I think he'll cost too much and we'll go towards a middle tier DLineman.
I think we get Graham quickly and sign C. Brown or trade for T. Jones or McGahee. I would rather not trade for McGahee but all of the rumors have me worried. As much as I'd like to have Kerney, I think he'll cost too much and we'll go towards a middle tier DLineman.
good post...brown is most appealing to me, mainly b/c he wont cost a draft pick, although i also think he was impressive when he was starting in tenn.
phillybroncosnut
03-02-2007, 02:06 AM
first off, i am sick and also exhausted so excuse me for being a little harsh, but we disagree here....
i think that if you go into FA only looking at certain positions you get yourselves in trouble....you look at who could help you be a better offense/defense as a whole and fit under the cap. Daniel Graham is one of if not the best run-blocking TE who can also catch (translation: he would be an asset to any RB especially at the goal-line, but would keep defense honest with being solid in the passing game). That is what makes me want him...i dont care if we have TE's already, he would make us better, probably moreso than any other offensive FA we can afford.
As for your financial statements, those were not opinions, you stated them as facts (ex: We dont have enough money to....not i dont think we....) I believe he is around 27, in the prime of his career, so i'd be very surprised if such a renowned leader doesnt think winning is important to him....
denver is known as one of the most financially creative teams in the league, so if we sign graham we'll most likely still have some gas in the tank for other FA's, not PK, but we could probably get chris brown, brad johnson, and dwayne white or some two out of three.....the cap is not as big of a deal as people make it out to be, if a player wants to be here there are ways to do it.
There we go Chaz. A good conversation. We disagree. No biggie. We're all in the same boat Bro. Bronco brothers.
Anyway, as of Weds night, we were number 30 out of 32 teams under the cap. We had roughly $3 million under the cap. I know the number changes from day to day, but, I can't imagine it will move so much that we can make a huge splash to fill all our needs.
While I agree that Graham's talents will help us tremendously, I just think we need to spend wisely. Hell, I would rather have Nate Clements then Bly but I was smiling ear to ear when I heard we landed Dre.
I have no idea who reconstructed ( I know Roddie and Warren did) or how much we saved overall by contracts being restructured but I can't imagine it is enough to address our more pressing needs. I disagree with your opinion that "if you go into FA only looking at certain positions you get yourselves in trouble". I think you have to target what your needs are and figure out the best approach to either fill them via the draft and/or FA. That should be the top priority. I don't see how you can be a balanced team overall if you don't approach the offseason this way.
I imagine our cap number dropped with the subtraction of Bell and Foster as both of their salaries got excelerated to this seasons cap #. Same will hold true if we trade Plummer. We will take a hit on our cap number this season if Jake is traded. I'm not a Capologist so I don't know the ways around that. I'm sure there are ways to "massage" the number. I just don't know how much "massaging" we can or cannot do.