Bly a Bronco!!

[broncswin]

We get bly for foster and bell tatum that is, great trade for us.:welcome:

[eddie mac]

We get bly for foster and bell tatum that is, great trade for us.:welcome:
Very funny but nothing has been confirmed anywhere.

[broncswin]

Just saw it on ESPN, no joking man, I wouldn't do that to you guys

[BizzyBone7]

ill take it

[azbroncfan]

I just watched bottom line and the only new news was Alstott resigning a 1 year deal.

[BizzyBone7]

I just watched bottom line and the only new news was Alstott resigning a 1 year deal.

haha me too...

[Dudeskey]

no linky you stinky

[Old Dude]

This would't surprise me, since last I saw it was pretty much down to Denver or New Orleans. Moving Foster makes sense.

[bloodsunday]

Its official -- Denver is in the market for a big time back. They have now lost two of their top 3 backs. ouch.

My guess is they sign Jamal Lewis and then draft someone as well.

Since we got rid of garbage I am okay with the Bly deal. Of course I am sure he'll get a big contract as well :(

[BleedingOrange]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2784408

[broncswin]

They are saying the trade will become officail tommorrow but that it is a done deal, just working out the final kinks

[Vegas_Bronco]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2784408

DONE!

[borrissey]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2784408

Lions trade Bly to Broncos for Tatum Bell, Foster
By Michael Smith
ESPN.com

The Detroit Lions have agreed to send cornerback Dre' Bly to the Denver Broncos in exchange for running back Tatum Bell and tackle George Foster. Trades cannot become official until Friday, the first day of the league year.

Bly, a two-time Pro Bowl performer who earned a Super Bowl ring as a member of the 1999 St. Louis Rams, did not fit well in the Tampa 2 defensive scheme employed by second-year head coach Rod Marinelli and new defensive coordinator Joe Barry. Thus the Lions granted Bly and his agent, Kennard McGuire, permission to seek a trade two weeks ago.
The New Orleans Saints, New York Giants and Washington Redskins also were in the running for the 29-year-old Bly.
Neither Bly nor McGuire was available for comment.
In Denver, Bly will join Champ Bailey in forming one of the game's top cornerback tandems. The Broncos needed a replacement for Darrent Williams, who was killed in a drive-by shooting after a New Year's Eve party in Denver.
Bly is considered one of the game's best big-play cornerbacks. In eight seasons he has intercepted 31 passes, forced 17 fumbles, and scored eight touchdowns (five interception returns, two fumble returns, one punt return). Last season Bly tied for the team lead with three interceptions and led the Lions with 18 passes defended and four forced fumbles.
Bly has one year remaining on the $22 million free-agent contract he signed in 2003 and the Broncos are expected to begin working on a long-term agreement with McGuire.
Michael Smith is an NFL writer for ESPN.com.

[BizzyBone7]

I just watched bottom line and the only new news was Alstott resigning a 1 year deal.

just watched it again and it was there

[maven]

michael smith of espn.com reports the trade. It's on the ticker on ESPN 2

[bpc]

If this is true, I consider this a huge steal for us. HUGE.

Hopefully we can get Bly to sign an extension.

[broncswin]

Saw it on ESPN News, breaking news wire!!!!!!!!!!! On my lunch break

[Dudeskey]

Bly's contract wasn't the issue in Detoilet... I thought it was the organization & the scheme

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[Vegas_Bronco]

Here Comes That Lynch Blitz Package!!!

[Arkansas Bronco]

Thank God the concussion giver is gone!!!

Edit - Also rep to our rookie Broncswin for being on top of his game and letting us know first.

[freak6]

Good trade.

RIP DARRENT

[Barry Ramey]

It is true. I like the trade for the Broncos!

Lions trade Bly to Broncos for Tatum Bell, Foster

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<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="PADDING-TOP: 10px" vAlign=top><!-- begin leftcol --><!-- template inline -->The Detroit Lions (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=det) have agreed to send cornerback Dre' Bly (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4690) to the Denver Broncos (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=den) in exchange for running back Tatum Bell (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6800) and tackle George Foster (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6356). Trades cannot become official until Friday, the first day of the league year.
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Bly, a two-time Pro Bowl performer who earned a Super Bowl ring as a member of the 1999 St. Louis Rams (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=stl), did not fit well in the Tampa 2 defensive scheme employed by second-year head coach Rod Marinelli and new defensive coordinator Joe Barry. Thus the Lions granted Bly and his agent, Kennard McGuire, permission to seek a trade two weeks ago.

The New Orleans Saints (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=nor), New York Giants (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=nyg) and Washington Redskins (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=was) also were in the running for the 29-year-old Bly.
Neither Bly nor McGuire was available for comment.
In Denver, Bly will join Champ Bailey (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4655) in forming one of the game's top cornerback tandems. The Broncos needed a replacement for Darrent Williams (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7232), who was killed in a drive-by shooting after a New Year's Eve party in Denver.
Bly is considered one of the game's best big-play cornerbacks. In eight seasons he has intercepted 31 passes, forced 17 fumbles, and scored eight touchdowns (five interception returns, two fumble returns, one punt return). Last season Bly tied for the team lead with three interceptions and led the Lions with 18 passes defended and four forced fumbles.
Bly has one year remaining on the $22 million free-agent contract he signed in 2003 and the Broncos are expected to begin working on a long-term agreement with McGuire.
Bell, 25, became a starter for the first time last season, his third, and led the Broncos with 1,025 rushing yards. In three seasons with the Broncos he has rushed for 2,342 yards and 13 touchdowns and owns a career yards-per-carry average of 4.9. The speedy Bell provides depth and insurance for the Lions in the event top back Kevin Jones (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6789)' foot injury keeps him sidelined into next season.
Foster started 45 out of a possible 48 games the past three seasons at right tackle. The Lions were last in the league in rushing and allowed the second-most sacks (63) last season, so improving the offensive line is one of the team's top offseason priorities. Michael Smith is an NFL writer for ESPN.com.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2784408

[labronx]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2784408

[Rohirrim]

This is good stuff. Now let's go get Kerney!

[sirhcyennek81]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2784408 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2784408)

Per espn

:Broncos:

[PLOWHORSE]

And the Broncos lost NO draft picks in the deal. Its all good.

[maven]

I'm very happy no draft picks were involved going to the Lions.

[freak6]

Pass on Kerney. Production has dropped to near nothing. Dan Graham produces.

[Odysseus]

Dayum!

This is great news! We get back depth at safety and at cornerback. This is AWESOME. That frees us up in the draft...wait. Weren't those a first and second rounder?

Doh!

[bpc]

This is just purely a steal for us. We keep all of our draft picks and we've got a highly productive corner on our hands who probably still has about two or three good seasons left in him. Not only that but he is a ballhawk too.

I know the emphasis is to get defensive linemen in this draft but if our guy isn't there at 21, I hope we find a way to pull in another ballhawking safety like Griffin or Nelson. Lynch would be free to play in the box and our CB's and safeties could lock down the opposing pass offense.

To give up just Foster and Bell? God, this is like an early Christmas present!

[Dedhed]

This is getting a great player for two guys who had no value left in a Broncos uniform. Great deal.

[PLOWHORSE]

Uhh Ohhh...what if flabby Foster fails the physical, and blows the deal?

[Jason7730]

Well, that was about as good as we could have hoped for. No more turnstile at right tackle. (Hopefully).

[azbroncfan]

Nice hopefully everyone passes physicals.

[Requiem]

This is huge. I said the only way I'd want this if no picks were involved.

Foster and Bell were bound to be replaced. I think it's a fair trade though, not really a fleece by any side, but a fair trade.

[Rock Chalk]

Now, about that d-line...

[SpringStein]

This is just purely a steal for us. We keep all of our draft picks and we've got a highly productive corner on our hands who probably still has about two or three good seasons left in him. Not only that but he is a ballhawk too.



Why only 2 or 3? What is he 28 or 29 years old?

[Jesterhole]

Hahaha, we offload two problems and get a Pro Bowl corner. And it cost us no draft picks. Wow...I wonder if Detroit hired some of the Skins front office, lol

[Requiem]

Why do people see this as a fleece? The Lions are HELPED through this trade too. Sure, we offload players who will be replaced, but it's not like we just bent these people over backwards. No picks involved is huge, but it's a FAIR trade.

[SpringStein]

Just looked it up. He's 29 and will be 30 in May. So maybe 3 or 4 more years at CB. ;)

[missingnumber7]

Hahaha, we offload two problems and get a Pro Bowl corner. And it cost us no draft picks. Wow...I wonder if Detroit hired some of the Skins front office, lol

No they just have Matt Millen

[boltaneer]

Matt Millen is an idiot.

Good trade for the Broncos.

[DBroncos4life]

I've got WOOD!!!!! INT's Baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[azbroncfan]

NFL channel claims BLY agreed on new contract.

[cousinal11]

Sounds good to me. As a Heels fan, it will be cool to see Dre in a Broncos uniform.

[ND Bronco Fan]

Didn't I read there is a draft pick included........possibly a fifth?

[orangefan]

Glad to see this. I think we will see Kerney next, and then move up to 12 for Branch or Okoye if they are still on the board.

[TheSportsGuru]

Boom goes the dynomite!

This is a nice deal all around, especially not having to give up any picks....

[penguintheory]

We used a lot of ammo in this trade, so hopefully that pick cited is a 5th or lower.

Can't wait for the Bailey era.

[Barry Ramey]

I wish Tatum and Foster well, but they clearly had limited futures with the Broncos. Tatum just was never comfortable in the Bronco running system and Foster was just a big disappointment. I can see Tatum doing well in Detroit, hopefully for him, will work on holding ono the ball. As for Foster, maybe they will get more out of him than the Broncos seemed able to.

For the Broncos, they get a CB who has Pro Bowl credentials, though yeah, that doesn't always mean much. But anyway, he's still in his prime and has been a guy known to make big plays and that's what needed on the other side of Champ. He might get beat taking some chances here and there, but I'd rather get beat that way than having my CB playing 10 yards off and giving up easy completion after another.

Like Requiem said, it's a good deal for both teams.

[WyoLaw]

I like this article written on rotoworld.com


Broncos acquired CB Dre Bly for Tatum Bell and T George Foster.

It will become official Friday. No one works the trade market better than Mike Shanahan and GM Ted Sundquist. They got a Pro Bowl quality player at a position of need in exchange for spare parts they weren't going to use. Champ Bailey, Bly, and Dominique Foxworth will make a great trio. The Broncos will start working on a long-term deal for Bly.

It is also reported on their site that Detroit optioned for Foster instead of a 3rd rounder. Denver would of done either deal.
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[SpringStein]

There goes any talk of Jake and Tatum plus #21 for Texans 8th! :wiggle:

[WyoLaw]

Updated: March 1, 2007, 2:02 PM ET
Lions trade Bly to Broncos for Tatum Bell, FosterBy Michael Smith
ESPN.com


The Detroit Lions have agreed to send cornerback Dre' Bly to the Denver Broncos in exchange for running back Tatum Bell, tackle George Foster and a draft choice, believed to be a fifth-round pick.

Trades cannot become official until Friday, the first day of the league year.

Bly, a two-time Pro Bowl performer who earned a Super Bowl ring as a member of the 1999 St. Louis Rams, did not fit well in the Tampa 2 defensive scheme employed by second-year head coach Rod Marinelli and new defensive coordinator Joe Barry. Thus the Lions granted Bly and his agent, Kennard McGuire, permission to seek a trade two weeks ago.

The New Orleans Saints, New York Giants and Washington Redskins also were in the running for the 29-year-old Bly.

Neither Bly nor McGuire was available for comment.

In Denver, Bly will join Champ Bailey in forming one of the game's top cornerback tandems. The Broncos needed a replacement for Darrent Williams, who was killed in a drive-by shooting after a New Year's Eve party in Denver.

Bly is considered one of the game's best big-play cornerbacks. In eight seasons he has intercepted 31 passes, forced 17 fumbles, and scored eight touchdowns (five interception returns, two fumble returns, one punt return). Last season Bly tied for the team lead with three interceptions and led the Lions with 18 passes defended and four forced fumbles.

Bly has one year remaining on the $22 million free-agent contract he signed in 2003 and the Broncos are expected to begin working on a long-term agreement with McGuire.

Bell, 25, became a starter for the first time last season, his third, and led the Broncos with 1,025 rushing yards. In three seasons with the Broncos he has rushed for 2,342 yards and 13 touchdowns and owns a career yards-per-carry average of 4.9. The speedy Bell provides depth and insurance for the Lions in the event top back Kevin Jones' foot injury keeps him sidelined into next season.

Foster started 45 out of a possible 48 games the past three seasons at right tackle. The Lions were last in the league in rushing and allowed the second-most sacks (63) last season, so improving the offensive line is one of the team's top offseason priorities.

Michael Smith is a senior NFL writer for ESPN.com. ESPN.com senior NFL writer John Clayton contributed to this story.
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[Barry Ramey]

Now with this deal completed, I have the feeling they are going to trade down in the draft unless someone falls unexpectedly to #21.

[SoonerBronco]

There goes any talk of Jake and Tatum plus #21 for Texans 8th! :wiggle:

No...now we have heard it is Jake, #21, and First rounder for '08 for #8...

We need a running back now...we just lost 2 in the last week.

who better than...

http://www.newsday.com/media/photo/2006-09/25369327.jpg

[bronco militia]

hopefully it's a just 5th rounder or lower....

[freak6]

It's a steal for us because Foster sucks, and Tatum's speed is only good for about 10 yards before a stiff breeze or his shoe laces bring him down.

[bpc]

Why do people see this as a fleece? The Lions are HELPED through this trade too. Sure, we offload players who will be replaced, but it's not like we just bent these people over backwards. No picks involved is huge, but it's a FAIR trade.

Yep... they lost one fragile soft track style HB and replaced him with another. Foster will be camp fodder.

I hope both go on to do great things though honestly. I just don't see it happening. Good luck to Foster and Bell! Thanks for the time!

[CSU Husker]

No...now we have heard it is Jake, #21, and First rounder for '08 for #8...

We need a running back now...we just lost 2 in the last week.

who better than...

http://www.newsday.com/media/photo/2006-09/25369327.jpg

That would be awesome, but no way does AD fall to #8

[SoonerBronco]

That would be awesome, but no way does AD fall to #8

I know..they'd have to trade up again...but then again, why not send Jake and our #1's for '07 and '08 to Cleveland for #3???

[baja]

Me likey

[Rascal]

THis trade helps both teams IMO.

Foster will be a better RT in Detroits system then he was in Denver. Plus Detroit needed a RB since K JOnes is out for at least 1/2 the season last year. Denver didn't fleece detroit IMO, but they did get a good deal at a position of need for two players that were not expected to stick around much longer.

[bronco militia]

from pft

DRE' DEALT TO DENVER

Michael Smith of ESPN.com reports that the Lions have traded cornerback Dre' Bly to the Broncos for tackle George Foster, running back Tatum Bell, and a draft pick.

Smith says that the draft pick is believed to be a fifth-round pick. We've confirmed that it's indeed a fifth-round pick.

Also, don't assume that Foster and Bell will be wearing Honolulu Blue come the fall. There's talk that either or both of them could be traded by the Lions, as Detroit tries to amass more picks in the April draft.
Bly is signed through 2007. He'll likely be the replacement in the starting lineup for Darrent Williams, who was shot and killed on January 1

[DeusExManning]

And the Broncos lost NO draft picks in the deal. Its all good.

I thought we gave up a fifth, did this change?

[Garcia Bronco]

Goodbye Foster you #^%#$% #$%^#$%^# piece of #$%@#$%...corks@#$%@#$% SOB.

[eddie mac]

DRE' DEALT TO DENVER

Michael Smith of ESPN.com reports that the Lions have traded cornerback Dre' Bly to the Broncos for tackle George Foster, running back Tatum Bell, and a draft pick.

Smith says that the draft pick is believed to be a fifth-round pick. We've confirmed that it's indeed a fifth-round pick.

Also, don't assume that Foster and Bell will be wearing Honolulu Blue come the fall. There's talk that either or both of them could be traded by the Lions, as Detroit tries to amass more picks in the April draft.

Bly is signed through 2007. He'll likely be the replacement in the starting lineup for Darrent Williams, who was shot and killed on January 1.

[bronco militia]

like they've done in the past, i expect the Broncos will probably sign an older and cheaper veteran RB, Draft a RB, and give Mike Bell the #1 spot going into training camp....

[SoDak Bronco]

I like the trade, I think Denver is including a 2nd day pick from the article, no-one seems to be mentioning this. I like the trade, but I am a little mad we had to include a draft pick.

[DBroncos4life]

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=191530&page=3&pp=15

this is a funny thread. Some Skins fans are upset that they pretty much gave too much for Portis...

[Ratboy]

I liked Tatum Bell and wish him the best of luck. He didn't work out here, he wasn't an every down back Shanahan needed him to me. We need a big time runner, I WOULD LOVE ADRIAN PETERSON. I'm guessing Jamal Lewis is coming to Denver also.

I agree with whom ever said go get Kerney.

Sign Kerney and Lewis, Draft a DT and we're set.

[freak6]

We can draft a stud RB in rounds 3-5 that is better than Mike Bell. We gotta take advantage of the DL talent in this draft, get a S, and OT.

[SoDak Bronco]

Now if we can draft a weddle/wendling safety, or even a ball hawk like maywether, our db's are going to be fricking sweet!!!!

[Disco Man]

Nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!! Now go get a a** kickin' D line player!!!!!!!!!!!!

[plummershelper]

With the addition of the 5yh rounder could this be a scenario similar to the one two years ago when we traded Droughns to Cleveland and got EE and MM. Maybe they'll toss in James Hall or Marcus Bell, both are on the block. Trade one Bell for another.

[Broncomutt]

Not sure which makes me happier, acquiring Bly or getting rid of Foster. Either way, good news :)

[Hercules Rockefeller]

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=191530&page=3&pp=15

this is a funny thread. Some Skins fans are upset that they pretty much gave too much for Portis...

I love how they always fall back to the argument that neither team has won a SB, so it's a wash. No, you gave up someone who is a borderline HOF if he retired today for a RB who was maybe Top 5 when you acquired him and is maybe Top 10 today.

Wish they didn't have to give up a 5th, but this is only considered an average draft so it's not huge. I wouldn't be surprised if they trade 3b on draft day for a 4th and a 5th.

Good trade for both teams, both got rid of players who were not part of their future.

[yerner]

I guess its fair. But wow, we have no running backs and our o-line is looking pretty garbage too. Lots of work to do. Problem is free agents often don't help. Just ask the redskins.

[rovolution]

Fosters finally gone. best news ive heard in a while.

Tatum had no future here once Jamal Lewis is inked.

DRE FREAKING BLY!!!!!!:yayaya:

Starting corners for the Denver Broncos, Dre Bly and Champ Bailey. :yayaya:

It sounds great!

Hopefully Shanny will focus on Defensive Linemen in the draft. (But looking at his history, you can never be too sure).

[TheDave]

To me this is a Win/Win for both clubs.... Good trade!

[ludo21]

good move!

on the bottom line I saw

Tatum, Foster, and draft pick for Bly.... if thats true, im not so pumped, but still excited for the possibilities

[DBroncos4life]

I love how they always fall back to the argument that neither team has won a SB, so it's a wash. No, you gave up someone who is a borderline HOF if he retired today for a RB who was maybe Top 5 when you acquired him and is maybe Top 10 today.

Wish they didn't have to give up a 5th, but this is only considered an average draft so it's not huge. I wouldn't be surprised if they trade 3b on draft day for a 4th and a 5th.

Good trade for both teams, both got rid of players who were not part of their future.

Not all of them in that thread were that dumb but some of them need help. Bly isn't old and he has been to 2 Pro Bowls. Foster and Bell haven't. They also don't understand that Foster was benched here and was going to be a goner anyways. Bell can be replaced. Just like every other RB we've had. Its a good deal for both teams, something you can't say often.

[Northman]

This is good stuff. Now let's go get Kerney!

I would definitely be down with this. :thumbsup:

[freak6]

This trade could change the dynamics of how teams attack us more than we think, + Jim Bates' changes. Gonna be an interesting season.

[Clockwork Orange]

They got him without giving up any of their day one picks, so I'm happy with the deal.

Welcome to Denver, get ready to get thrown at a lot, Dre.

[Garcia Bronco]

I hate that we gave up a 5th rd pick. Foster was gone...Tatum lacks the disaprine...but one corner for those two and a draft pick isn't as sweet IMO

[Smiling Assassin27]

bly only has one year left on his deal, right? he's gonna want major money next year. so in effect, this is a rental of sorts unless we get bly signed. not to mention we threw in a draft pick. i'm not on board with this deal because jamal lewis is half the back he used to be and he wants to stay in bmore anyway. our rb stable is WAY low and foster, despite being a turnstyle, is a suitable 2nd string RT. dunno bout this.

[Disco Man]

Just means we will see much more of "FIRE MILLEN" in Detroit!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Garcia Bronco]

They got him without giving up any of their day one picks, so I'm happy with the deal.

Welcome to Denver, get ready to get thrown at a lot, Dre.

I just hope that Bly isn't caught doing 100 down Colfax.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!! Now go get a a** kickin' D line player!!!!!!!!!!!!

No doubt.

The needs in the trenches are getting more pronounced by the day.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

bly only has one year left on his deal, right? he's gonna want major money next year. so in effect, this is a rental of sorts unless we get bly signed.

I believe someone said earlier in the thread that the NFLN reported that Bly had agreed to a new deal. Even if he hadn't, Denver wouldn't have given up that much for a 1-year rental. He'll have a new deal within a couple days if one already hasn't been agreed to.

[Northman]

What exactly does this mean for Kevin Jones? Are they planning on splitting time wth Bell or replacing Jones?

[DBroncos4life]

I'll miss Bell though, but I'm sure I will love Bly the same.

[Los Broncos]

I just seen this on espn, nice trade.

[Dempsey Dog]

This is a nice move by the Bronocs, at least from initial appearances. We have to see the contract they are going to give Dre, but so far it looks good. Considering all of the draft picks and waste we have allocated to the CB position over the years, it would be great if we can keep things intact for 4-5 years. We thought we would havethat with Darrent and we should have.

What has it taken to get to this point:

1st rounder for Deltha
1st rounder for Middlebrooks
1st rounder for Foster, used to get Dre
2nd rounder for Portis, who was used to get Champ
2nd rounder from Wash used for Tatum, then used to get Dre
2nd rounder for Darrent, which was a tragedy, but impacted us having to make a move for Dre
5th rounder for Dre

So when I look at it, in order for us to get Dre and Champ, it has taken three 1st round picks, three 2nd round picks, and a 5th round pick. That is a lot of human capital. At this point, it is a sunk cost, but it would be nice to not have to worry about it for 5 more years or so.

[SpringStein]

What exactly does this mean for Kevin Jones? Are they planning on splitting time wth Bell or replacing Jones?

Reports are that he won't be ready to play at least the first half of next year.

[yerner]

Kevin Jones has a foot injury that is serious. May keep him out much of next season.

[Beej]

Do we still have any cap left to get Graham or Kearney?

[Los Broncos]

It's a steal for us because Foster sucks, and Tatum's speed is only good for about 10 yards before a stiff breeze or his shoe laces bring him down.

LOL

[cutthemdown]

I think oline has some young potential in guys like Kyper/Meyers/Pears. RB we do need a vet and maybe a young draft pick as well.

[cutthemdown]

I hate that we gave up a 5th rd pick. Foster was gone...Tatum lacks the disaprine...but one corner for those two and a draft pick isn't as sweet IMO

think about though. With all the compensatory picks handed out a 5th round pick is almost like a 6th round pick. This trade is great. 2 players we didnt want and a low pick for a pro bowl caliber CB is a steal. An absolute steal!!!!!!!

[Dempsey Dog]

Who is getting a 5th round pick? I have seen reports that says the Lions are getting. However, Yahoo Sports is reporting Denver is getting the 5th along with Dre. I sure hope that is true!!

Bly sent to Broncos for Foster and T. Bell

By Jason Cole and Charles Robinson
Thursday, Mar 1, 2007 2:58 pm EST

The Denver Broncos (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/den/) moved to bolster their secondary after the tragic death of cornerback Darrent Williams on Jan. 1 by trading offensive tackle George Foster (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6356/) and running back Tatum Bell (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6800/) to the Detroit Lions (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/det/) for cornerback Dre' Bly (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/4690/) on Thursday, according to a source close to the situation. The Broncos will also receive a fifth-round pick in this year’s NFL draft, Yahoo!’s John Murphy has learned.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/nfl_experts/post/Bly-sent-to-Broncos-for-Foster-and-T-Bell;_ylt=Arn7pnVLQNB1E4any4rF.eRDubYF?urn=nfl,255 25

[yerner]

I think its going to detroit.

[Clockwork Orange]

Who is getting a 5th round pick? I have seen reports that says the Lions are getting. However, Yahoo Sports is reporting Denver is getting the 5th along with Dre. I sure hope that is true!!

Bly sent to Broncos for Foster and T. Bell

By Jason Cole and Charles Robinson
Thursday, Mar 1, 2007 2:58 pm EST

The Denver Broncos (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/den/) moved to bolster their secondary after the tragic death of cornerback Darrent Williams on Jan. 1 by trading offensive tackle George Foster (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6356/) and running back Tatum Bell (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6800/) to the Detroit Lions (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/det/) for cornerback Dre' Bly (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/4690/) on Thursday, according to a source close to the situation. The Broncos will also receive a fifth-round pick in this year’s NFL draft, Yahoo!’s John Murphy has learned.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/nfl_experts/post/Bly-sent-to-Broncos-for-Foster-and-T-Bell;_ylt=Arn7pnVLQNB1E4any4rF.eRDubYF?urn=nfl,255 25

I think John Murphy's got it mixed up. All reports have said that the Broncos gave a 5th rounder to Detroit in the deal, not the other way around.

[wolf754life]

Bottom Line: The broncos are a better team today, than yesterday........

Anyone who has watched film on #72 the last year and a half can tell you right off the top that the guy is a tremendous UNDERACHIEVING lazy offensive lineman. He didn't know all of his plays, he didn't react with the proper awareness, all he was and all he ever will be is a drive blocking specialist. Why did denver ever draft this guy? Some blame must go out to Shanny and the boys. Lets face it, the guy almost got Cutler killed last year, he didn't even block the guy.

As for Tatum, nobody inside Dove Valley ever imagined that he was that soft. They new he was soft, but not this soft. His ego was a problem, his injuries were a problem, his mindset was a problem. He couldn't catch, couldn't block in pass pro, just really soft. This team should have never let Mike Anderson go.

The good news is that the team had already decided to cut bait, so the next step was maximizing these two guys percieved value. Dre Bly in return is a huge success. Even better news comes in the form that this team already has replacements in mind. Eric Pears, Adam Meadows, a drafted/Free Agent will compete at Right Tackle. The broncos are going to draft a RB early, on day one and possibly add a free agent. We all know the track record there.

On defense bly immediately affects this club. Jim Bates likes to play aggressive, not passive like Larry C. Less zone, more Man to Man. Cover corners are a premium in his defense. Bailey and Bly will make recievers earn every yard in Man, they will be dangerous players to face. Teams will have to rely on the short quick passes to move the ball. Hopefully this means more blitzing by DJ and Ian, supplemented with bigger more athletic D-Lineman.

The draft must reap help at RB, Defensive Line, Safety, Offensive Tackle. The broncos have their 1st, 2nd, and two 3rd's to address these areas. Free agency will yield an impact player either at Tight End, or Defensive Line.

This is why its so great to be a Bronco Fan, they do what it takes to stay competitive! Admitting mistakes/failure is the first step to success.

[BABronco]

Bottom Line: The broncos are a better team today, than yesterday........

Anyone who has watched film on #72 the last year and a half can tell you right off the top that the guy is a tremendous UNDERACHIEVING lazy offensive lineman. He didn't know all of his plays, he didn't react with the proper awareness, all he was and all he ever will be is a drive blocking specialist. Why did denver ever draft this guy? Some blame must go out to Shanny and the boys. Lets face it, the guy almost got Cutler killed last year, he didn't even block the guy.



Hey now!.... no need to be nice

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

I still think the Broncos find a safety in FA, but the addition of Bly makes it less critical. A more experienced CB can cover for some deficiencies at safety.

[baja]

Does anyone know the injury history on Bly?

[Atlas]

Yep... they lost one fragile soft track style HB and replaced him with another. Foster will be camp fodder.

I hope both go on to do great things though honestly. I just don't see it happening. Good luck to Foster and Bell! Thanks for the time!

That is ridiculous. I'll bet you $20 Foster is the starter on the opening week for the Lions. He isn't nearly as bad as you people believe.

[orangeatheist]

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=191530&page=3&pp=15

this is a funny thread. Some Skins fans are upset that they pretty much gave too much for Portis...

My favorite post from that thread:


Kind of funny how most here were saying Bly is too old, and if we did get him we'd need Smoot backing him and we couldn't give up too much for Bly.

Now that Denver has him, they have the best secondary in the NFL? Giving up a tackle and running back isn't too much? If we had given up Betts and Pucillo for Bly, people here would be forming mobs and going after the FO. But Denver did good? Denver just got fleeced. Our deal for Portis looks much better than Detroit and Denver's deal.

Our FO was smart and backed out of the deal as to avoid giving up too much for Bly. They did something smart. Yet few are willing to praise them for a good move, but rather bash them for a forced-trade from 3 years ago.

[Bronx33]

Millen cracks me up...

[baja]

Bottom Line: The broncos are a better team today, than yesterday........

Anyone who has watched film on #72 the last year and a half can tell you right off the top that the guy is a tremendous UNDERACHIEVING lazy offensive lineman. He didn't know all of his plays, he didn't react with the proper awareness, all he was and all he ever will be is a drive blocking specialist. Why did denver ever draft this guy? Some blame must go out to Shanny and the boys. Lets face it, the guy almost got Cutler killed last year, he didn't even block the guy.

As for Tatum, nobody inside Dove Valley ever imagined that he was that soft. They new he was soft, but not this soft. His ego was a problem, his injuries were a problem, his mindset was a problem. He couldn't catch, couldn't block in pass pro, just really soft. This team should have never let Mike Anderson go.

The good news is that the team had already decided to cut bait, so the next step was maximizing these two guys percieved value. Dre Bly in return is a huge success. Even better news comes in the form that this team already has replacements in mind. Eric Pears, Adam Meadows, a drafted/Free Agent will compete at Right Tackle. The broncos are going to draft a RB early, on day one and possibly add a free agent. We all know the track record there.

<b>On defense bly immediately affects this club. Jim Bates likes to play aggressive, not passive like Larry C. Less zone, more Man to Man. Cover corners are a premium in his defense. Bailey and Bly will make recievers earn every yard in Man, they will be dangerous players to face. Teams will have to rely on the short quick passes to move the ball. </b> Hopefully this means more blitzing by DJ and Ian, supplemented with bigger more athletic D-Lineman.

The draft must reap help at RB, Defensive Line, Safety, Offensive Tackle. The broncos have their 1st, 2nd, and two 3rd's to address these areas. Free agency will yield an impact player either at Tight End, or Defensive Line.

This is why its so great to be a Bronco Fan, they do what it takes to stay competitive! Admitting mistakes/failure is the first step to success.

Good point Wolf. This style of D means our need for a cover safety is even a greater need now.

[Atlas]

I love how they always fall back to the argument that neither team has won a SB, so it's a wash. No, you gave up someone who is a borderline HOF if he retired today for a RB who was maybe Top 5 when you acquired him and is maybe Top 10 today.

Wish they didn't have to give up a 5th, but this is only considered an average draft so it's not huge. I wouldn't be surprised if they trade 3b on draft day for a 4th and a 5th.

Good trade for both teams, both got rid of players who were not part of their future.

If Champ doesn't play anothe r game in the NFL he is a shoe-in for the HOF.

[Requiem]

According to Lee Raizer, the Broncos get the #98 overall and the Lions get our 5th.

I'm so hard right now, please whack me off if we get their 4th.

[-Slap-]

In eight seasons, Dre Bly has intercepted 31 passes, forced 17 fumbles, and scored eight touchdowns (five interception returns, two fumble returns, one punt return). Last season Bly tied for the team lead with three interceptions and led the Lions with 18 passes defended and four forced fumbles.

The nicest thing about this trade is Dre Bly is EXACTLY the type of guy you want opposite Champ Bailey. He will not shrink from getting thrown at every week, he'll embrace it. He'll keep his head up when he gets beaten, and he'll make enough big plays nobody will care about his bad ones.

On one hand, we only gave up spare parts and a second day pick, but Tatum and Foster still have trade value and it will be interesting to see what Detroit gets for each one if they try to flip them for picks, as has been speculated.

I wish both of those guys the best. Tatum played some very good football for us. I'm sorry his career with the Broncos ended on a sour note. Turf toe can be a crippling injury for a speed back and he struggled trying to play through the pain. I still believe Foster's progress stopped after the Tony Williams injury and I think a new environment might do him a lot of good.

Forget about replacing Bell with Jamal Lewis. Go get Travis Henry.

[Kaylore]

According to Lee Raizer, the Broncos get the #98 overall and the Lions get our 5th.

I'm so hard right now, please whack me off if we get their 4th.

Good gravy that would rock! We convert a fifth into a fourth and all we give up is Tatum and some garbage? Boo-ya! I have a thread to go bump...

[bronco militia]

The teams also traded draft picks. Detroit will get a fifth-round pick from Denver, while the Broncos will get a sixth-rounder from the Lions.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/nfl/article/0,2777,DRMN_23918_5387172,00.html

[Requiem]

Now Lee Raizer edited it. They get our fifth, we get their sixth.

That's a fag tade.

[elsid13]

OK if we swapped our 5th for 4th then this is a very good deal. I not complete sold on Bly (we will see how good he is with everyone throwing at him next year). Kinda of disappointed that Dove Valley didn't give Foxworth a chance to compete for the job.

[elsid13]

OK if we swapped our 5th for 4th then this is a very good deal. I not completely sold on Bly (we will see how good he is with everyone throwing at him next year). Kinda of disappointed that Dove Valley didn't give Foxworth a chance to compete for the job.

[DBroncos4life]

We got a guy with 50 career turnovers forced. His tackle numbers are solid, I've see it said that he is poor in that area but it doesn't appear that way. I love this team because it does make moves in the offseason.

[Requiem]

Now Lee Raizer edited it. They get our fifth, we get their sixth.

That's a fag tade.

[DBroncos4life]

We got a guy with 50 career turnovers forced. His tackle numbers are solid, I've see it said that he is poor in that area but it doesn't appear that way. I love this team because it does make moves in the offseason.

[footstepsfrom#27]

Looks like Bly shares some things in common with D-Will for helping kids:

http://www.detroitlions.com/document_display.cfm?document_id=449028

Dedication to Children
Lions CB Dré Bly Adopts Middle School to Help Improve Academics and School Infrastructure

By Ayana Richardson
Detroitlions.com
September 29, 2006

Bly spoke to the students at Longfellow Middle School on Tuesday.

DETROIT, Mich. -- As children we have dreams and goals that we set and hope to accomplish in life. They may seem unobtainable to some, but sometimes it takes a supportive role model who believes in our goals to make all the difference in our life and in our world.

One Detroit Lions’ player has taken the initiative to be dedicated to the dreams of the students at Longfellow Middle School in Detroit by being that supporter and believer in them. Lions’ cornerback Dré Bly has adopted Longfellow Middle School for the 2006-07 football season and school year.

Bly’s foundation, “The Dré Bly Foundation”, and the school’s principal are working together to create incentives to inspire students to achieve excellence during the school year. Longfellow was chosen by Bly’s foundation as the recipient of the “Dré Bly Playmakers Program,” that was set up to give kids the opportunity to experience the excitement of attending a Lions’ home game at Ford Field.

To show their appreciation and to welcome Bly into their family, Longfellow had a day entitled, “Dré Day at Longfellow”. This day happened on September 26, and was filled with events that brought cheer to Bly, the students, the staff and parents.

“Dré Day” featured an assembly at the school, which was filled with students and staff wearing a colorful button with Bly’s photo on it. Bly talked to the students about the things his foundation has planned for the school year. He presented the school with Lions’ home game tickets for the remainder of the 2006 NFL season and a certificate of commitment to the school for the year along with an autographed football and helmet.

The students performed cheers and songs as a part of the assembly to show their appreciation of Bly’s dedication to them and the school. The school also filled a trophy case with photos and memorabilia of Bly. Bly’s scheduled day at the middle school also included lunch with the students, a tour of the school and a competitive game of chess with one lucky student.

Not only on the side of education will Bly be focusing his efforts in improvement at Longfellow, but he will also be working on supplying the needs of a wish list that the school provided. Bly plans to have a fundraiser at Seldom Blues for the school and arrange donations around Thanksgiving and Christmas.

Bly’s continuous support and involvement with Longfellow Middle School will give these students something to aspire to. Inspiration derives from encouragement and support from a positive role model that students can relate to. Bly is not only a positive role model and can share stories of his success, but is a sports image that young girls and boys admire and respect. Bly’s influence can be a driving force for excellence in the daily lives of the students at Longfellow Middle School that could ultimately result in a bright future and the accomplishments of numerous young peoples’ goals and dreams.

[Garcia Bronco]

9news is saying we gave up a 3rd rounder now...WTF

[OrangeShadow]

ncie to see action early in free agency

[broncs2bowl]

Wat does this mean for Foxy

[OrangeShadow]

means there wont be as much pressure on him to be a number 2 corner, which IMO is a very good thing.

[2KBack]

Looks like open competition for RB this year. I would venture that a Free agent is brought in on the cheap and our typical annual Draft RB. I'm obviously rooting for Mike, but if someone else makes their mark all the better. Tatum had his shot, I wish him well. He'll probably be dangerous again if he doesn't have to be the man.

[ward63]

I didn't search through all the pages, but doesn't Bly return punts? Just in case Hixon and Morgan don't work out. I mean it's dangerous to invest a lot in him for that, but it'd be a bonus, yet a risk. Got a great #2 corner and possibly a KR! Pretty great dump to add!

[Bronco Billy]

Man, this is the best thing that's happened to us since the Bengals missed that XP! Sometimes, I actually do love Matt Millen!

[jayman_37]

I was reading on ESPN and Jeremy Green believes that Detroit got the best of the deal. HIs argument was that Detroit is getting two starter and we are getting a decent corner but one that also gets beat too often. I think its a good trade, because Denver isn't losing two starters its just that Detroit sucks so much that our backups are their starters. So I guess a long story short who got the better end of the deal?

Please try and think of it from both standpoints.

[Hogan11]

Rockin' great trade. The corners are now solidified and two problems are now sent packing.....nice.

[ward63]

Well, I'm gonna take this trade from the Lions perspective real quick:

1. They got a starting tackle(potentially).
2. Now they don't have to draft Joe Thomas and can draft Quinn or trade down.
3. They got insurance for if Jones isn't ok. (I know there are Tatum haters, b/c I'm one, but it's an upgrade over what they have).
4. Finally, th draft doesn't matter b/c Millen will prolly mess up and draft ANOTHER WR in Calvin Johnson.

[Bronx33]

I was reading on ESPN and Jeremy Green believes that Detroit got the best of the deal. HIs argument was that Detroit is getting two starter and we are getting a decent corner but one that also gets beat too often. I think its a good trade, because Denver isn't losing two starters its just that Detroit sucks so much that our backups are their starters. So I guess a long story short who got the better end of the deal?

Please try and think of it from both standpoints.


See what he says when floster gets the QB killed then the lions go 2-14 ohhhhh wait ahhhhhhhhhhh nevermind.

[Bronco Billy]

I was reading on ESPN and Jeremy Green believes that Detroit got the best of the deal. HIs argument was that Detroit is getting two starter and we are getting a decent corner but one that also gets beat too often. I think its a good trade, because Denver isn't losing two starters its just that Detroit sucks so much that our backups are their starters. So I guess a long story short who got the better end of the deal?

Please try and think of it from both standpoints.

This probably does help both teams. But, I'm estatic to get Bly for T. Bell and Foster.

[RkyMtnThunder]

I was reading on ESPN and Jeremy Green believes that Detroit got the best of the deal. HIs argument was that Detroit is getting two starter and we are getting a decent corner but one that also gets beat too often. I think its a good trade, because Denver isn't losing two starters its just that Detroit sucks so much that our backups are their starters. So I guess a long story short who got the better end of the deal?

Please try and think of it from both standpoints.



Honestly, I think its a push - with slight edge to Detroit.

We traded 2 of our opening day 2006 starters and 1 draft pick - essentially 3 players - for one above average CB who was originally rumored to be had for a 3rd round pick.

Dont get me wrong, I believe the team is better having Bly - but I do think we kinda overpaid for him.

I wish we kept Tatum to package in another trade to move up the draft board, or have at least kept that 5th round pick.

3 players for one is tough to swallow. IMO he isnt a 'shutdown' guy simply because at 5'9" most of the AFC WRs tower over him.

But again, I do think our secondary has improved

[broncolife]

I love this trade. To bad a pick was involved but I am still happy. Its sooooo damn fun being a bronco fan, every year we are competitive in the regular season and the offseason.

[Bronx33]

All i know is the george the road flare and the fumbler are gone..

[baja]

Lions to swap draft picks, Bly for Broncos' RB Bell, lineman
March 1, 2007
By NICHOLAS J. COTSONIKA
FREE PRESS SPORTS WRITER
Editor's note: Story updated at 4:50 p.m.
The Lions have agreed to trade cornerback Dré Bly and their sixth-round pick to the Broncos for running back Tatum Bell, right tackle George Foster and a fifth-round draft pick.
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President Matt Millen declined to comment because the trade cannot be made officially until midnight tonight. Bly did not comment when reached by phone.

The Lions also agreed to a three-year contract with linebacker Alex Lewis and tendered five exclusive rights players and two restricted free agents. More moves are expected Friday.

The Lions will part with defensive end James Hall and tight end Marcus Pollard. If they cannot trade them, they will release them because they are due roster bonuses. There appears to be interest in Hall, but not in Pollard.

With the opening of the free-agent market, the Lions are expected to pursue wide receiver Kevin Curtis and defensive end DeWayne White. The Lions have needs at both positions. Curtis played for offensive coordinator Mike Martz when Martz was St. Louis’ head coach. White played for coach Rod Marinelli when Marinelli was Tampa Bay’s defensive line coach.

It is unclear what role – if any – Bell and Foster will play for the Lions and how acquiring them will affect the Lions’ off-season plans. They could be trade bait. They could play important roles.

Bell rushed for 1,025 yards last season, though he also fumbled five times. The Lions need insurance at running back because Kevin Jones has a serious foot injury. They are optimistic Jones will be ready for the regular-season opener, but they can’t be sure.

Foster, a first-round pick in 2003, has been inconsistent. The Lions already have Rex Tucker and Jonathan Scott at right tackle, and backup Barry Stokes can play right tackle, too.

The big question is how that might affect the Lions' No. 2 pick in the draft. Some had the Lions slated to take Wisconsin’s Joe Thomas and play him at right tackle. Will the Lions take him anyway and part with someone? Or does this mean they are more likely to try to trade down and address another position, such as defensive end?

Bly signed with the Lions as a free agent in 2003. He went to two Pro Bowls and was a first alternate for another in his first three years in Detroit. But after Marinelli arrived and installed the Tampa Two defense last season, Bly was less effective.

In the Tampa Two, Bly was supposed to play zone and stuff the run. But Bly is a pure cover corner and prefers man-to-man coverage. He will play opposite Champ Bailey for the Broncos, replacing Darrent Williams, who was shot and killed Jan. 1 in downtown Denver.

The Lions tendered five exclusive rights players: fullbacks Will Matthews and Sean McHugh, defensive linemen Claude Harriott and Langston Moore and offensive lineman Stephen Peterman. That means they offered them one-year deals to retain their rights.

They tendered two restricted free agents: longsnapper Don Muhlbach and cornerback Keith Smith. If Smith signs with another team, the Lions would receive a third-round pick. They did not tender defensive lineman Cleveland Pinkney, making him a free agent.

[Pendejo]

I didn't search through all the pages, but doesn't Bly return punts? Just in case Hixon and Morgan don't work out. I mean it's dangerous to invest a lot in him for that, but it'd be a bonus, yet a risk. Got a great #2 corner and possibly a KR! Pretty great dump to add!

He doesn't very often. According to the espn player's page he returned three punts last year, and 1 kick. He didn't do any kick returning in '04 or '05.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/stats?playerId=1793

[Dukes]

That is ridiculous. I'll bet you $20 Foster is the starter on the opening week for the Lions. He isn't nearly as bad as you people believe.

So Atlas, do you think there's any chance Detroit passes on Joe Thomas now? If so that would disrupt everyone draft projections.

[Dukes]

Lions to swap draft picks, Bly for Broncos' RB Bell, lineman
March 1, 2007
By NICHOLAS J. COTSONIKA
FREE PRESS SPORTS WRITER
Editor's note: Story updated at 4:50 p.m.
The Lions have agreed to trade cornerback Dré Bly and their sixth-round pick to the Broncos for running back Tatum Bell, right tackle George Foster and a fifth-round draft pick

That's the first I've seen with Denver getting a 6th Round pick. If so that's great.

[12th man]

Sweet! Champ and Bly is a sick tandum. Now hopefully we will get some new dlinemen that can get to the qb consistantly. If we do that, and with Bates coming in, we could have a pretty darn good defense next year.

What a great trade by shanny and co! Im also very happy to see Foster leave. Today was a great day.

[Cito Pelon]

On paper, this will cut down the number of long TD drives next year by opposing O's. Could be a big difference-maker in the W column.

[halfcreek]

Denver's 5th and Detroit's 6th aren't that far apart.

[OrangeShadow]

-
4. Finally, th draft doesn't matter b/c Millen will prolly mess up and draft ANOTHER WR in Calvin Johnson.

Hilarious!

[Needa Pass Rush]

Didn't I read there is a draft pick included........possibly a fifth?

Detroits paper has the Lion's 6th coming this way along with Bly. Foster, TBell and our fifth headed to the motor city.

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070301/SPORTS01/70301041/1049/SPORTS03

[400HZ]

Watch Foster turn into a stud in Detroit.

[2KBack]

Watch Foster turn into a stud in Detroit.

that happens, but he was a dud here, and that's what matters to me

[cabronco]

Watch Foster turn into a stud in Detroit.

Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious!
I seriously doubt he'll see any playing time as a Lion. He will be like 3rd sting on the depth chart. More than likely he will be used as trade bait, and end up Rt for the Fade. Hilarious!

[bpc]

If Detroit was smart, they would draft Thomas still, kick Backus over to RT and play Foster at LG. Damian Woody can play at RG and they have Raiola at center. I would never let Foster protect the edge but he is a good enough athlete with enough size to hopefully become a impact player on the interior. Tatum is a spot player and better than some of the guys they have. Plus Martz could be better at using Tatum all over the field than Denver was.

[Tombstone RJ]

Great trade by the Broncos. Essentially, they are getting rid of two players whom they have lost confidence in, and getting a pro-bowl CB and a draft pick. Not bad.

As for Foster and Bell leaving, I think Bell has a decent chance of becoming a good player on the turf in Detroit, esp. in that spread offense that Martz runs. As for Foster, I'm so disappointed in him, I'm just glad to see him gone.

[Inkana7]

Great trade by the Broncos. Essentially, they are getting rid of two players whom they have lost confidence in, and getting a pro-bowl CB and a draft pick. Not bad.

As for Foster and Bell leaving, I think Bell has a decent chance of becoming a good player on the turf in Detroit, esp. in that spread offense that Martz runs. As for Foster, I'm so disappointed in him, I'm just glad to see him gone.

So we are getting a 5th? Nice.

[ShutDownPoster]

Great for Martz, he gets Trung Candidate back ROFL!

[SoCalBronco]

Sigh....

[Atlas]

Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious!
I seriously doubt he'll see any playing time as a Lion. He will be like 3rd sting on the depth chart. More than likely he will be used as trade bait, and end up Rt for the Fade. Hilarious!
He'll be their opening day starter.

[broncos love]

I guess Football Playbook on RMSN sports is gone to have to recruit 2 more guys for their little show next year.

[cutthemdown]

Great for Martz, he gets Trung Candidate back ROFL!

thats the same thing i was thinking. Good one.

[BroncoInferno]

Sigh....

You really don't like the move, SoCal? Why in the world not? We get a proven playmaker at a position of need in return for two players who were totally out of our plans and keep all of our first day picks. What is not to like?

[broncos love]

You really don't like the move, SoCal? Why in the world not? We get a proven playmaker at a position of need in return for two players who were totally out of our plans and keep all of our first day picks. What is not to like?

No more getting shown up by R. Wayne, god bless D-Will.

[SoCalBronco]

You really don't like the move, SoCal? Why in the world not? We get a proven playmaker at a position of need in return for two players who were totally out of our plans and keep all of our first day picks. What is not to like?

I wanted to pawn Tatum off for a 3 or 4 (the market probably would have allowed only the latter, thats fine) and Foster for like a 6, rather then bring in another corner and pay him what would appear to be a relatively decent extension. We need picks not players. Bly is a good player, I don't mind the acquisition in the pure abstract, is he an upgrade over Fox? Prolly, but I would have rather gone with Fox and Paymah (and maybe bring in a cheap vet) rather than give away some assets that we could have turned into picks and now also we are going to have to pay Bly too.

[BroncoInferno]

I wanted to pawn Tatum off for a 3 or 4 (the market probably would have allowed only the latter, thats fine) and Foster for like a 6, rather then bring in another corner and pay him what would appear to be a relatively decent extension. We need picks not players. Bly is a good player, I don't mind the acquisition in the pure abstract, is he an upgrade over Fox? Prolly, but I would have rather gone with Fox and Paymah (and maybe bring in a cheap vet) rather than give away some assets that we could have turned into picks and now also we are going to have to pay Bly too.

I disagree with your premise that we need picks, not players. I think todays NFL is driven by playmakers, not constructing complete teams. Look at the two SB represntatives. If you were to break down their teams in terms of "needs" as we assess them on this board, you'd have a list as long as your arm. Look at Indy, in particular. Bob Sanders, a single playmaker, returns healthy to the lineup for the playoffs, and they miraculously go from being a sieve all season to being fairly stout. Adding a playmaker like Bly gives us a guy who, as Slap has noted, will embrace the extra activity he'll receive playing opposite Champ, and has the track record as a playmaker to suggest that going too much in his direction will result in extra trunovers. I think you'll see a 7-10 INT season from Bly next season. That will be huge. A 4th and 6th versus that type of playmaker is simply a no brainer, especially given the landscape of todays NFL.

[Kaylore]

I wanted to pawn Tatum off for a 3 or 4 (the market probably would have allowed only the latter, thats fine) and Foster for like a 6, rather then bring in another corner and pay him what would appear to be a relatively decent extension. We need picks not players. Bly is a good player, I don't mind the acquisition in the pure abstract, is he an upgrade over Fox? Prolly, but I would have rather gone with Fox and Paymah (and maybe bring in a cheap vet) rather than give away some assets that we could have turned into picks and now also we are going to have to pay Bly too.

With all due respect SoCal, you are a total pick whore. I sometimes wonder if you don't toss and turn at night knowing we gave a second rounder ( a high second rounder! ) up for Walker.:giggle:

[Dedhed]

I wanted to pawn Tatum off for a 3 or 4 (the market probably would have allowed only the latter, thats fine) and Foster for like a 6, rather then bring in another corner and pay him what would appear to be a relatively decent extension. We need picks not players. Bly is a good player, I don't mind the acquisition in the pure abstract, is he an upgrade over Fox? Prolly, but I would have rather gone with Fox and Paymah (and maybe bring in a cheap vet) rather than give away some assets that we could have turned into picks and now also we are going to have to pay Bly too.

Picks not players? Forgive me if that sounds totally bass ackwards to me. I thought you used picks to get players.

[Kaylore]

Picks not players? Forgive me if that sounds totally bass ackwards to me. I thought you used picks to get players.

SoCal thinks picks are better than players. In fact I bet each time we spend one on draft day, he dies a little bit inside. Ha!

[Needa Pass Rush]

So is it official that we effectively traded Portis for 1.5 Pro Bowl CB's? ;D

[epicSocialism4tw]

So...Bly is nice and all, but...

When is the BBT going to get serious about the defensive line?

[milehimike]

I like the trade, Bly is a playmaker. And him being on the field with Champ will add up for us in the turnover column IMO.

[orange crusher]

NFL Network is reporting that he has already agreed to a new contract. Looks like CB is set for a while.

[Needa Pass Rush]

So...Bly is nice and all, but...

When is the BBT going to get serious about the defensive line?

Adding a top CB will help the entire line. Now the DL can continue their ballroom dancing moves with the opposing OL. Next year we will still Needa Pass Rush! :yayaya:

[RunSilentRunDeep]

I'm on board since Bly fits Bates' system and is proven. I may jump off board if his new bonus is over $10M.

[ro_50]

So...Bly is nice and all, but...

When is the BBT going to get serious about the defensive line?


Don't worry, the Broncos contingent is in San Antonio plucking donut eating Spurs center Jackie Butler of their IR.

[DBroncos4life]

He will give our pass rush atleast .5 more seconds to get to the QB if not more.

[maven]

Bly goes from the #1 corner to the #2 corner. Paymah & Foxy make damn good young, cheap backups. I'm glad Denver didn't send picks for him. Yes, it's still unkown that a 2nd day pick is included. But, atleast it's not a 1st day pick. I'm warming up to the trade. DW got burnt so many times it made me barf. I'm not bagging on him, but that is how I felt during the season. Obviously he had room for improvement and was young with upside, and the unexpected death which sucked. Make no mistake though his play did piss me off during the season.

[Kaylore]

I trolled some of the Lions message boards and they are mostly pleased with this deal. The good news for us is that many are sad to see Bly go and don't believe he was a bad player but that he was in a poor situation (Tampa Cover 2) that didn't fit his style. I agree. Anyway, in trades such as these I get nervous because sometime you don't wonder if people think the guy is garbage (or in the 'Skins case, think as soon as someone isn't a Redskin they aren't good anymore).

Speaking of the Skins, their fan base was glad their FO didn't trade anymore picks for Bly, but then the discussion broke down into more wailing and teeth gnashing about the Bailey Portis trade after this post:

You guys do realize that Denver pretty much....

Traded Clinton Portis for

CHamp Bailey

AND

Dre BLY!!!!!!!!


They know what the hell they're doing over there.
Great trade for them.
They'll be fine without Tatum bell, they'll just draft another rb in the second round.

Then this:

It (Portis/Bailey) was a terrible trade. There are a dozen or more great runningbacks in the league and how many shutdown corners? Two? Plus we let them whore us out of a 2nd round pick because they know how stupid our FO can be and how frivelous our owner is.

Oh and that expendable runningback that they picked was Tatum Bell who they just traded for another stud DB.


LOL !Booya!

[mhgaffney]

Two shut down corners! Wow.

Now -- who will Shanahan get for Plummer?

[Natedogg]

Exellent move. Really seems that shannahan has re-adapted to the offseason and is ahead of the curve. He was one of the first to really utilize free agency (out SB teams) then went the patriot's bargin basement retread route (with less success) and now seems to be a wheelerdealer trader (not easy in the nfl).

A great move. Lyncy, Fergie, Bly, Baily, and Nique (who imo is underrated) in the same backfield. Wow. Combine that with our LB corps, Jesus. Wow.

I am pumped. This is the big move we needed. Not somthing like last year's Abrhams trade BS. Word.

RIP Dwill. You could have been a great one.

[DBroncos4life]

I think we really only need one great player for the DLine now. One great player will make the rest look better.

I look at it like this. Rucker is a solid DE, but when Peppers got there he became that much better. If we can find someone like that in the draft then I'm willing to bet that Ekuban has a career year and we will still get a good amount of sacks from Vil and Lang.

[-Slap-]

I wanted to pawn Tatum off for a 3 or 4 (the market probably would have allowed only the latter, thats fine) and Foster for like a 6, rather then bring in another corner and pay him what would appear to be a relatively decent extension. We need picks not players. Bly is a good player, I don't mind the acquisition in the pure abstract, is he an upgrade over Fox? Prolly, but I would have rather gone with Fox and Paymah (and maybe bring in a cheap vet) rather than give away some assets that we could have turned into picks and now also we are going to have to pay Bly too.

Neither Foxworth or Paymah were going to hold up all year as a starting CB.

I'm still amazed people didn't view CB as a need position on this team. Not even after we made it our first off season priority.

[footstepsfrom#27]

You guys do realize that Denver pretty much....

Traded Clinton Portis for

CHamp Bailey

AND

Dre BLY!!!!!!!!
Yeah...I was thinking about that earlier tonight...pretty funny.

[Odysseus]

So is it official that we effectively traded Portis for 1.5 Pro Bowl CB's? ;D

LOL Do the math. It's actually 1.652 but whose counting?

[Odysseus]

Neither Foxworth or Paymah were going to hold up all year as a starting CB.

I'm still amazed people didn't view CB as a need position on this team. Not even after we made it our first off season priority.

Foxworth learning from two competing top shelf CB is going to help his future development. His experience at safety will make him a little more than filler.

[footstepsfrom#27]

Exellent move. Really seems that shannahan has re-adapted to the offseason and is ahead of the curve. He was one of the first to really utilize free agency (out SB teams) then went the patriot's bargin basement retread route (with less success) and now seems to be a wheelerdealer trader (not easy in the nfl).
Don't forget it was Millen.

[Natedogg]

Don't forget it was Millen.

Well, we all know Millen is about as smart as the duece I dropped last night, but still shanny has:

Traded Portis for Champ Bailey
Traded a 4th Warren
Traded Drougnes for Myers and Ekuban
Traded a 2nd for Javon
and now, Traded two other turds TinkerBell and George "The worthless one" Foster for a shutdown #2 Corner

Not shabby. Tell me if I forgot anyone.

[REB]

I trolled some of the Lions message boards and they are mostly pleased with this deal. The good news for us is that many are sad to see Bly go and don't believe he was a bad player but that he was in a poor situation (Tampa Cover 2) that didn't fit his style. I agree. Anyway, in trades such as these I get nervous because sometime you don't wonder if people think the guy is garbage (or in the 'Skins case, think as soon as someone isn't a Redskin they aren't good anymore).

Speaking of the Skins, their fan base was glad their FO didn't trade anymore picks for Bly, but then the discussion broke down into more wailing and teeth gnashing about the Bailey Portis trade after this post:



Then this:



LOL !Booya!

LOL Good stuff.

And I love this trade. Shanny is one smart sob :)

1-2-3-:Broncos:!!!!!!! :charge:

[bronco militia]

http://blogs.rockymountainnews.com/denver/drew/archives/drew0302toon.gif

[Cito Pelon]

I disagree with your premise that we need picks, not players. I think todays NFL is driven by playmakers, not constructing complete teams. Look at the two SB represntatives. If you were to break down their teams in terms of "needs" as we assess them on this board, you'd have a list as long as your arm. Look at Indy, in particular. Bob Sanders, a single playmaker, returns healthy to the lineup for the playoffs, and they miraculously go from being a sieve all season to being fairly stout. Adding a playmaker like Bly gives us a guy who, as Slap has noted, will embrace the extra activity he'll receive playing opposite Champ, and has the track record as a playmaker to suggest that going too much in his direction will result in extra trunovers. I think you'll see a 7-10 INT season from Bly next season. That will be huge. A 4th and 6th versus that type of playmaker is simply a no brainer, especially given the landscape of todays NFL.

I agree that it's nice to have another playmaker on D, it's a big deal to me too. But SoCal is right that the FO will have to pay out a lot of money for 2 CB's like Bly and Bailey over the next 4-5 years. Rod Smith may end up getting cut to pay for those two and whatever other FA's the Broncos want, if he doesn't restructure.