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MechanicalBull
06-10-2007, 05:13 PM
Mets have been sucking lately but Wright has a homerun in each of the last 4 games including today.

CC Sabathia pitches another 9 inning shutout but the game is still 0-0 in the 11th between Indians and Reds.

SpringStein
06-10-2007, 06:12 PM
Hirsh with a complete game. How many of those have the Rockies had this year?

Hogan11
06-10-2007, 06:30 PM
Booooo, F The Yankees!

broncocalijohn
06-10-2007, 07:20 PM
So Torres is on the 15 day DL, Hogan. Does that mean he was put there voluntarily or does he really have an injury. On other news, my Fake LA Angels of the real city they reside in Anaheim took 2 out of 3 from the St Louis Angels. They signed Troy Percevil to a potential major league contract to make 4 former 2002 World Champs on another team. Angels only have 6 left I believe.

Hogan11
06-10-2007, 08:07 PM
So Torres is on the 15 day DL, Hogan. Does that mean he was put there voluntarily or does he really have an injury.

It's real....Torres integrity cannot be questioned and it goes a long way in explaining why he was tanking in the games he cost the team.

Look for Duke, Maholm & Sharpless to be sent down and Paulino to be benched shortly.

The Pirates are coming out of Yankee Stadium a team in total disarray....I fully expect a 15 to 20 in a row game slide before it's all over. I'm catching the series against the Nats at the end of the month in the Burgh, that's when they'll come out of it...but it'll be too late as usual, even for being in the Comedy Central.

Clockwork Orange
06-10-2007, 09:55 PM
This is where Major League umpires make zero sense.

On Friday night, Alfonso Soriano hit three home runs. The Braves supposedly weren't too pleased with the way he stood at home plate and admired his shots (the B*rry B*nds pose which no one ever takes him to task for). Tim Hudson then plunked Soriano with the first pitch of the next game on Saturday, nothing happens. Soriano was crossing the diamond after an out later in the game and said something to Hudson, nothing happens. No warnings, nothing.

Fast forward to tonight. The umpires issue no warnings before the game. Ted Lilly strikes out the first two batters he faces and then plunks Edgar Renteria. Lilly gets ejected for it. Remember, there were no warnings issued, but Lilly gets tossed immediatly. Now why does Lilly get tossed when Hudson, who was obviously throwing at Soriano, get nothing?

But wait, there's more.

Renteria goes to first, takes off for second on the first pitch and reaches out and deliberately smacks the Cubs shortstop in the face while he was sliding into second. This happens with an umpire standing three feet away and nothing happens.

Ridiculous. :nono:

WABronco
06-10-2007, 11:09 PM
Seattle with 3 consecutive come-from-behinders against the SD bullpen, and the last one off Hoffman!

SpringStein
06-10-2007, 11:12 PM
Seattle with 3 consecutive come-from-behinders against the SD bullpen, and the last one off Hoffman!

:thumbsup:

TheChamp24
06-10-2007, 11:26 PM
Man, Rockies are playing some good ball. Pitching is doing decent enough, the hitting needs to get there though.

Clockwork Orange
06-10-2007, 11:28 PM
What? No outrage on Renteria's bush league play from the masses?

I guess that's just reserved for A-Rod.

WABronco
06-11-2007, 12:09 AM
Didn't see it.

MechanicalBull
06-11-2007, 12:24 AM
What? No outrage on Renteria's bush league play from the masses?

I guess that's just reserved for A-Rod.

The Braves are on the east coast but in the south, only the north east matters when it comes to baseball unless your name is Barry Bonds.

I haven't watched espn all day but I bet if I turn it on they'll be talking about how the yanks are turning things around and picked up 5 or so games on the red sox and other crap like that.

Bronco LB 59
06-11-2007, 12:39 AM
What? No outrage on Renteria's bush league play from the masses?

I guess that's just reserved for A-Rod.

I liked it. These MLB ballplayers today are a bunch of fairies.

Clockwork Orange
06-11-2007, 12:43 AM
I liked it. These MLB ballplayers today are a bunch of fairies.

And that's consistent with your opinion of what A-Rod did. I'm just wondering where all the people who couldn't wait to bash A-Rod are on this one.

Clockwork Orange
06-11-2007, 01:13 AM
Wow, Francisco Cordero blows a save for the second straight day after converting every chance of the season up until then.

TheChamp24
06-11-2007, 02:01 AM
And that's consistent with your opinion of what A-Rod did. I'm just wondering where all the people who couldn't wait to bash A-Rod are on this one.

Geez dude, I bet a lot of people haven't seen it and it might not even make a Sportscenter highlite. If you can find a clip for me so I can see it I'll tell you what I think.

Clockwork Orange
06-11-2007, 02:27 AM
Geez dude, I bet a lot of people haven't seen it and it might not even make a Sportscenter highlite. If you can find a clip for me so I can see it I'll tell you what I think.

Sorry, must have missed the part where I said that expected everyone to answer immediatly. Thanks for assuming, though.

I wanted to see what people thought of the play and whether or not criticism for plays like that are reserved for certain individuals only. That's all.

Killericon
06-11-2007, 02:54 AM
Haven't seen it, though I'm sure I'll condemn it all the same once I do.

broncocalijohn
06-11-2007, 03:20 AM
This is where Major League umpires make zero sense.

On Friday night, Alfonso Soriano hit three home runs. The Braves supposedly weren't too pleased with the way he stood at home plate and admired his shots (the B*rry B*nds pose which no one ever takes him to task for). Tim Hudson then plunked Soriano with the first pitch of the next game on Saturday, nothing happens. Soriano was crossing the diamond after an out later in the game and said something to Hudson, nothing happens. No warnings, nothing.

Fast forward to tonight. The umpires issue no warnings before the game. Ted Lilly strikes out the first two batters he faces and then plunks Edgar Renteria. Lilly gets ejected for it. Remember, there were no warnings issued, but Lilly gets tossed immediatly. Now why does Lilly get tossed when Hudson, who was obviously throwing at Soriano, get nothing?

But wait, there's more.

Renteria goes to first, takes off for second on the first pitch and reaches out and deliberately smacks the Cubs shortstop in the face while he was sliding into second. This happens with an umpire standing three feet away and nothing happens.

Ridiculous. :nono:

Yes, you wonder about this and i wonder if the front office will do anything on some of the players. You know nothing will happen to the Umpire staff.

broncocalijohn
06-11-2007, 03:25 AM
The Braves are on the east coast but in the south, only the north east matters when it comes to baseball unless your name is Barry Bonds.

I haven't watched espn all day but I bet if I turn it on they'll be talking about how the yanks are turning things around and picked up 5 or so games on the red sox and other crap like that.


Of course they did but in all fairness, we have heard from ESPN how bad the Yanks have been. It doesnt matter to me. Once they hit Anaheim in August, they will know who their Daddy is. The story will be if Red Sox let them be their Daddy once again.

-Slap-
06-11-2007, 04:10 AM
Wow, Francisco Cordero blows a save for the second straight day after converting every chance of the season up until then.

I traded him for John Lackey two hours ago.

:thumbsup:

Clockwork Orange
06-11-2007, 04:15 AM
I traded him for John Lackey two hours ago.

:thumbsup:

Timing is everything. :~ohyah!:

WABronco
06-11-2007, 04:38 PM
Greatest Ichiro quote ever...

“To tell the truth, I’m not excited to go to Cleveland, but we have to,” Ichiro said through an interpreter. “If I ever saw myself saying I’m excited going to Cleveland, I’d punch myself in the face, because I’m lying.”

-Slap-
06-11-2007, 05:01 PM
Greatest Ichiro quote ever...

“To tell the truth, I’m not excited to go to Cleveland, but we have to,” Ichiro said through an interpreter. “If I ever saw myself saying I’m excited going to Cleveland, I’d punch myself in the face, because I’m lying.”

Better Ichiro quote (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ichiro+quote+kansas+city+hotter+than+two+rats&btnG=Search): "Kansas City in August is hotter than two rats ****ing in a wool sock."

WABronco
06-11-2007, 06:35 PM
Better Ichiro quote (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ichiro+quote+kansas+city+hotter+than+two+rats&btnG=Search): "Kansas City in August is hotter than two rats ****ing in a wool sock."

Whewww, that one can't be topped.

Clockwork Orange
06-12-2007, 01:10 AM
Hmmm, maybe Carlos Zambrano should scrap with a teammate more often. Maybe that's his variation of the slump buster. ;D

Killericon
06-12-2007, 01:19 AM
I love Ichiro...

WABronco
06-12-2007, 01:45 AM
Here's another one I liked:

On renewing his old showdowns with Dice-K:

"I hope he awakens the burning fire that has laid dormant in the deep recesses of my soul."

That's deep.

24champ
06-12-2007, 07:00 PM
Beckham-mania hits Dodger stadium last night...

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SpringStein
06-12-2007, 07:28 PM
Sox vs Rox - Can the Rox win one?

elsid13
06-12-2007, 08:31 PM
Sox vs Rox - Can the Rox win one?

No ;D

SouthStndJunkie
06-12-2007, 09:40 PM
Curtis Granderson just hit his 13th triple of the year.

That is insane when you figure the Tigers are only playing their 63rd game of the year.

Hogan11
06-12-2007, 09:50 PM
Bucs slapping around the Rangers 6-0 in the 6th...totally amazing if you saw them in action at all against the Yankees over the weekend.....that was just one ugly series.

Hogan11
06-12-2007, 09:55 PM
Of course I post that and Texas starts coming back...:nono:

MechanicalBull
06-12-2007, 10:19 PM
Verlander with a no hitter against the Brewers.

SpringStein
06-12-2007, 10:32 PM
Too bad that Cook's good outing was wasted in a 2-1 loss.

Clockwork Orange
06-12-2007, 10:36 PM
Too bad that Cook's good outing was wasted in a 2-1 loss.

He's used to it.

SouthStndJunkie
06-12-2007, 10:47 PM
Justin Verlander pitched a no-hitter for my Tigers!

Only the 6th in team history.

SouthStndJunkie
06-12-2007, 10:47 PM
I got to listen to the game on the radio.

That was fun.

SouthStndJunkie
06-12-2007, 10:49 PM
Verlander hit 101 on the gun in the 9th.

What a talent.

WABronco
06-12-2007, 11:38 PM
George Sherrill, best LH relief guy in the league, comes in the 8th with the bases juiced and one out and strikes out the next two batters...one on a 3-2 count!

GUTS!

Clockwork Orange
06-12-2007, 11:43 PM
Lidge finally gets his closer spot back and immediatly blows the save.

Unreal.

24champ
06-13-2007, 12:03 AM
Dodgers hit three consecutive homeruns, which also included their pitcher Kuo hitting one out of the park. It was like watching a batting practice session...unreal.

Taco John
06-13-2007, 01:19 AM
Cardiac freaking Mariners load the bases with two outs and a two run lead in the bottom of the 13th, but walk away with the win. That was a hell of a game.

24champ
06-13-2007, 02:11 AM
ORENO CHINKO SWE, Noo Yohka Mets-u! :thumbs:


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Natedog24
06-13-2007, 02:27 PM
ORENO CHINKO SWE, Noo Yohka Mets-u! :thumbs:


Sammy is the man, Gagne who? Lack of production with RISP is still worry-some, but the bull pen sure isn't. The Dodgers are something like 28-1 after leading in the 7th inning.


BTW Kuo's bat flip after hitting the homer was hilarious.

bronco militia
06-13-2007, 02:58 PM
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MechanicalBull
06-13-2007, 09:19 PM
I'm not a Yankee fan but A-Rod is having such a great season so far. Tonight he hit his 25th hr and got his 65th rbi. I wonder how many fans now want him and Abreu traded and off the team.

SpringStein
06-13-2007, 09:32 PM
Clemens vs. Fogg

A Classic. Mismatch.

Clockwork Orange
06-13-2007, 09:34 PM
I'm not a Yankee fan but A-Rod is having such a great season so far. Tonight he hit his 25th hr and got his 35th rbi. I wonder how many fans now want him and Abreu traded and off the team.

He just picked up his 66th RBI in his next at bat. He had a ridiculous 16 RBI's last week alone. He was fairly quiet in May after a torrid April, but he's found his stroke again in June.

OrangeShadow
06-13-2007, 09:47 PM
:cuss:

SpringStein
06-13-2007, 09:48 PM
3 run bomb by Hawpe. 6-2.

With Fogg, the Sox are still in it. ;)

OrangeShadow
06-13-2007, 10:09 PM
sox just arent hitting right now

elsid13
06-13-2007, 10:34 PM
This is way Schilling won't be resigned next season, a very good start one day the next he looks like ass. Wonder if Lester shows up when they recall him if Schilling would be on the trading block?

OrangeShadow
06-13-2007, 10:44 PM
no way^ if they make it to the postseason you need someone proven like schill

elsid13
06-13-2007, 10:50 PM
no way^ if they make it to the postseason you need someone proven like schill

It all depends on whose Theo could get for Schill- think if they trade him and Hanson for Hudson or Willis. As we speak Tito just stated that Lester is being opitioned down to PAWSOX and won't be coming up anytime soon.

SpringStein
06-13-2007, 11:39 PM
Sox vs Rox - Can the Rox win one?

Never a doubt. :P

Paladin
06-14-2007, 12:11 AM
12-2

Way to go Rox!

OrangeShadow
06-14-2007, 12:16 AM
we gotta let yall have one :p

Bronco LB 59
06-14-2007, 12:28 AM
It all depends on whose Theo could get for Schill- think if they trade him and Hanson for Hudson or Willis. As we speak Tito just stated that Lester is being opitioned down to PAWSOX and won't be coming up anytime soon.

If Hudson or Willis are somehow dealt to the Sox, it won't be Schilling going the other way.

Jens1893
06-14-2007, 01:16 AM
If Hudson or Willis are somehow dealt to the Sox, it won't be Schilling going the other way.

Boston is in the market for YET ANOTHER starting pitcher???? Aren´t Beckett, Schilling, Dice K and Wakefield enough?

24champ
06-14-2007, 02:42 AM
Dodgers sweep the Mets winning 9-1 tonight.
:thumbsup:

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Crowpointer
06-14-2007, 07:48 AM
if they make it to the postseason

"IF".......I feel like I just witnessed Linus in the Pumpkin Patch doubting the existence of the great pumpkin. No more "IF's" Shadow.

MechanicalBull
06-14-2007, 07:56 AM
Dodgers sweep the Mets winning 9-1 tonight.
:thumbsup:

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Is she a starting pitcher? what position does she play?:D

OrangeShadow
06-14-2007, 08:14 AM
"IF".......I feel like I just witnessed Linus in the Pumpkin Patch doubting the existence of the great pumpkin. No more "IF's" Shadow.

well WHEN we make the playoffs its going to be fun watching schill beckett dice-k and wake.

i cant wait to watch beckett pitch tonight, hes my favorite pitcher to watch in the league. Hes like an 8 inning version of papelbon but with a NASTYYYYY curve, a sick 2 seamer and can throw a couple different versions of his fastball.

Crowpointer
06-14-2007, 02:52 PM
It all depends on whose Theo could get for Schill- think if they trade him and Hanson for Hudson or Willis. As we speak Tito just stated that Lester is being opitioned down to PAWSOX and won't be coming up anytime soon.
Rep on the Yaz avatar. When I was a kid "The Captain" was the man in town. God, Honor, Fatherland to you too. (I'm not Polish but I married one)

TheChamp24
06-14-2007, 06:45 PM
I can't believe the Rockies rocked the Red Sox 12-2 last night. Really just wanted them to avoid a sweep, but if they can win tonight, that would be awesome.

elsid13
06-14-2007, 06:59 PM
Rep on the Yaz avatar. When I was a kid "The Captain" was the man in town. God, Honor, Fatherland to you too. (I'm not Polish but I married one)

Thanks, my fatherday present to my father is the new Yaz book and DVD. Yaz was my grandfather's favorite player and I heard all the stories about him growing up

elsid13
06-14-2007, 07:07 PM
I can't believe the Rockies rocked the Red Sox 12-2 last night. Really just wanted them to avoid a sweep, but if they can win tonight, that would be awesome.


With Beckett going tonight your Rockies are going to have a hard time making that happening. Right now Beckett is the leading CY Young candidate in AL based on his work so far.

Clockwork Orange
06-14-2007, 07:12 PM
Right now Beckett is the leading CY Young candidate in AL based on his work so far.

That's very debateable. John Lackey & CC Sabathia have just as legitimate claims as Beckett at this point.

MechanicalBull
06-14-2007, 07:33 PM
Thanks, my fatherday present to my father is the new Yaz book and DVD. Yaz was my grandfather's favorite player and I heard all the stories about him growing up

I'm not sure of the exact relationship but my Aunt is cousins(first cousin I believe but not totally sure) with Yaz. I never met him in my life but I thought it was pretty cool when I found out years ago.

24champ
06-14-2007, 07:42 PM
Is she a starting pitcher? what position does she play?:D

Chesty McBatrack is multi-talented. Available for any position really.;D

Taco John
06-14-2007, 07:43 PM
Right now Beckett is the leading CY Young candidate in AL based on his work so far.

I'd argue that Dan Haren is the leading candidate. Yes, he's got two losses, but he doesn't have the run support that Haren has gotten. His 1.58 ERA sure beats Beckett's 2.88.

Beckett's having a fine season, no doubt, but if the vote were today, I don't see how Haren doesn't get it.

Taco John
06-14-2007, 07:45 PM
That's very debateable. John Lackey & CC Sabathia have just as legitimate claims as Beckett at this point.



Both Lackey and Sabathia are having great seasons, but they both give up too many hits. My money is on either Haren of Beckett for the Cy.

Clockwork Orange
06-14-2007, 07:47 PM
Both Lackey and Sabathia are having great seasons, but they both give up too many hits. My money is on either Haren of Beckett for the Cy.

Johan will have something to say about all this before it's over.

24champ
06-14-2007, 07:48 PM
Just got this in my email about the latest Dodger news-

DODGERS DISMISS MURRAY
Mueller to serve as Interim Hitting Coach

LOS ANGELES – The Dodgers announced today that they have dismissed Hitting Coach Eddie Murray and have named Bill Mueller as Interim Hitting Coach, according to Dodger Manager Grady Little.

“Change is never easy but sometimes it is necessary and we feel that this is the best thing right now to help the team win,” said Little. “Our offense hasn’t lived up to our expectations and no one person is responsible for the results we’ve had this season. I have the utmost respect for Eddie Murray as a person and as a professional and I wish him nothing but the best.”

Mueller retired at the end of the 2006 season with a lifetime batting average of .291 in 11 seasons with the Giants, Cubs, Red Sox and Dodgers. In 2003, he won the American League batting title and Silver Slugger Award and in 2004, he was a key member of the World Champion Boston Red Sox. Upon announcing his retirement, Mueller was named Special Assistant to General Manager Ned Colletti this offseason.

“Bill Mueller will serve as a very solid bridge as we look for our next hitting coach,” said Colletti. “He already has a great reputation within the clubhouse and he has a very deep knowledge of our team and the rest of the league.”


Sad to see Murray be canned, but I hope Mueller can improve our hitting techniques.

MechanicalBull
06-14-2007, 07:48 PM
Both Lackey and Sabathia are having great seasons, but they both give up too many hits. My money is on either Haren of Beckett for the Cy.

I think you can also throw in Verlander right now. He is 7-2 with a 2.79 era

Paladin
06-14-2007, 07:52 PM
we gotta let yall have one :p

How about two?!Booya!

Paladin
06-14-2007, 07:54 PM
Is she a starting pitcher? what position does she play?:D

Missionary.

Taco John
06-14-2007, 07:57 PM
Johan will have something to say about all this before it's over.

That 3.24 is going to have to come down an awful lot.

24champ
06-14-2007, 07:58 PM
Speaking of pitchers...

I love BP

Yet, in an incident replayed several times on television, Penny verbally confronted Green.

After he struck out Green to end the third inning, Penny walked off the mound — not toward the dugout, but toward home plate. The two men exchanged words, without contact.

After the game, Penny said Green had tipped the Mets' hitters off to pitch locations in the first inning, when Green was on second base.

"When you're doing that and you have a reputation for doing that, people will be watching you," Penny said.

Green acknowledged that reputation but denied he was tipping the Mets' hitters in this case.

"People assume every time I'm on second base, I'm relaying signs," the former Dodger said. "I've been wrongly accused of that more times than I've been rightly accused."

Green called that practice "part of the game" and said the Dodgers had engaged in it Tuesday. When they did, he said, Aaron Heilman simply stepped off the mound, and the Mets changed signs.

"That's the right way to handle it," Green said. "To accuse a guy is the wrong way to handle it, especially when it wasn't taking place."

Penny said he did not consider brushing Green back during that at-bat rather than waiting for a verbal confrontation afterward.

"I didn't really have a chance," Penny said. "I had a guy in scoring position and a better hitter [Carlos Beltran] on deck. It would have been nice to have a six-run lead right there."

Clockwork Orange
06-14-2007, 08:03 PM
That 3.24 is going to have to come down an awful lot.

I wouldn't rule it out.

MechanicalBull
06-14-2007, 08:22 PM
I don't see Santana winning the Cy Young this year but with his stuff and his history I wouldn't put anything past him. I hope it doesn't happen but after next year he is a FA and you know the Yanks are going to throw so much cash his way especially with the age of Clemens, Mussina and Pettite.

OrangeShadow
06-14-2007, 09:14 PM
you had to open your big mouth pats

SpringStein
06-14-2007, 09:33 PM
How about two?!Booya!

Up 6-0 after 3 1/2. Could happen. Maybe.

elsid13
06-14-2007, 09:35 PM
Well Beckett is stinking the place up tonight. Good hitting by the rockies, and piss poor hitting by Sox isn't helping Beckett cause tonight.

SpringStein
06-14-2007, 11:27 PM
With the W, the Rocks pull back to .500. Gotta say I didn't expect that just 3 weeks ago.

Paladin
06-14-2007, 11:38 PM
How 'bout them Rockies?

Good series for them. Could easily have been a sweep if Spilly had gotten a hit with the bases loaded in the first game.....

Tampa next. With luck and good pitching, maybe get a game up......

Clockwork Orange
06-14-2007, 11:50 PM
Nice to see the Rockies get back to .500 for the first time in a long time. They're now 15-6 in their last 21 ballgames.

TheChamp24
06-15-2007, 01:11 AM
Nice to see the Rockies get back to .500 for the first time in a long time. They're now 15-6 in their last 21 ballgames.

Whats even more amazing IMO is the fact in the past 7 series, the Rockies are 6-0-1 in those. Only one they didn't win was the Cardinals series in which they tied 2 games a piece.
Also, they have won 4 straight road series(franchise record). This run is awesome for them.
Hitting has gotten way better, pitching solid. Bullpen has REALLY stepped it up. Fielding continues to be outstanding.

DomCasual
06-15-2007, 01:33 AM
I have to admit that I'm pretty shocked. I honestly thought they were headed into a stretch that would end in Hurdle getting fired - extension be damned. There seemed to be some momentum for change, including lots of really negative press about the direction of the franchise.

So, I guess I'm cautiously optimistic now. There seem to be really positive things going on with this club. I think a lot of us thought they were capable of playing like this, going into the season. This next series is important - they need to show now that they can win series they are supposed to win.

Requiem
06-15-2007, 05:26 AM
Ugh, the Mariners game was painful to watch. Morrow has been looking sharpe since being our top choice last year and today things just didn't go our way. I like the relief with him, O'Flaherty and J.J is solid this year as a closer, but we desperately needed starting pitching. Felix needs to stay healthy, Batista has been a pleasant surprise and Washburn is well, Washburn - but Weaver is terrible.

Thank God we got real potential in Amonte. I'm not sure if he's signed yet, but hopefully he does, comes through the minors and can be ready in a year or two.

Betancourt needs to stop having errors, but he's hitting solid right now. Lopez is doing okay as well.

Sexson and Beltre, the big paid guys are stinking it up. Sexson is streaky, and he's not even hitting .200 right now. Pathetic. Beltre with his injuries are concerning. I'd expect a deal including Beltre for a SP to possibly go down, anyways that was what is rumored.

Hopefully this Mangini kid can go through the minors with ease and be able to take up third base. I have a feeling Beltre is gone at somepoint and Willie isn't going to cut it.

Happy with the outfielders we selected. With the age in our outfield, and Ichiro possibly being gonzo at the end of the year, we'll need a replacement. Denny Almonte could be a future replacement to Ibanez. He can play anywhere in the OF, I believe. Haven't heard much on the others, will research though.

Call up Adam Jones already, the kid is on fire.

Wladimir Balentien could be ready in a year, and he'd be better than Ellison.

Go M's.

WABronco
06-15-2007, 10:40 AM
Sexson and Beltre, the big paid guys are stinking it up. Sexson is streaky, and he's not even hitting .200 right now. Pathetic. Beltre with his injuries are concerning. I'd expect a deal including Beltre for a SP to possibly go down, anyways that was what is rumored.

That would suck. We don't really have any good corner INF in AA or AAA, and why deal a sweet-fielding, slugging 3b. He's never gonna hit 40+ again, but he'll get to around 25-30 and give you gold glove defense. He's the 2nd or 3rd best 3b in the AL...

At least for Sexson we've got some guys to fill the void.

Call up Adam Jones already, the kid is on fire.

Where are we gonna put him, though? There'd have to be a major change made to a roster that's currently winning. I like Jones over half the lineup, but it is what it is.

Wladimir Balentien could be ready in a year, and he'd be better than Ellison.

If anyone gets dealt, I bet it's Balentien. He's probably ready for the bigs right now, but again, where does he fit?

ColoradoBuff
06-15-2007, 12:49 PM
you had to open your big mouth pats

How 'bout them Rockies!!!!:thanku:

Requiem
06-15-2007, 01:53 PM
That would suck. We don't really have any good corner INF in AA or AAA, and why deal a sweet-fielding, slugging 3b. He's never gonna hit 40+ again, but he'll get to around 25-30 and give you gold glove defense. He's the 2nd or 3rd best 3b in the AL...

At least for Sexson we've got some guys to fill the void.

Mangini was drafted for a reason. He's a solid hitter and a sound defender. It'll probably be a year or so before he gets into the bigs, but being an established hitter in college should make his transition into AA or AAA (wherever he'd go) easier and he should be able to move through the minors quickly. (Which is what I liked about a lot of the pitchers we took, and some of our other guys, like the OF from Oklahoma - experience will help them get through quicker, I'd hope.)

I don't think Beltre is that good, but that's just me. Maybe it's because I was excited at the prospects of a top 3B in baseball (he's not) after his last year with LAD, but he hasn't even come close to that kind of year, although that's an MVP caliber year. Last season was pretty solid, but I'm just stating this is a rumor I heard. I'm not sure how long he's going to be out, I find it's amazing we can do this well with half the guys we're playing.

You're right, we don't have any good corner infielders in AAA/AA. This is just what I've seen rumored some places.

Where are we gonna put him, though? There'd have to be a major change made to a roster that's currently winning. I like Jones over half the lineup, but it is what it is.

Move Ibanez to DH, (Vidro, eh? Waste of 7.5 million) and put Jones in left. Ibanez is a far better hitter than Vidro, and putting Jones in left would put some speed out there. Ibanez (besides the terrible misplant and throw) could have taken a lot better angles in the series against the Cubs. He seems to be the liability in the outfield.

Maybe Vidro isn't as bad as I think, maybe I'm just spoiled from Edgar. Probably. MFKIN BEAST.

It's going to be a scary thought having all 35+ year old lineman, having Ichiro leave and not bringing up a guy to get some experience.

If anyone gets dealt, I bet it's Balentien. He's probably ready for the bigs right now, but again, where does he fit?

Not as good as Jones, but close. With drafting quite a few OF, (probably one or two of which could pan out) he could be made expendable. However, it'd be nice to keep him, due to Ichiro possibly leaving and the age of our outfielders. At least we'll have speed at the top of our line-up and in the field with these OF guys.

Damn, it feels good to be talking baseball again. I just wish I got to see more Mariners games. I have to count on them playing the Cubs, Braves or Twins - and the occasional ESPN game if they play Boston or New York.

I expect us to make a move for pitching. We could use another quality starter, someone who could be a #2, hopefully.

SpringStein
06-15-2007, 02:38 PM
How 'bout them Rockies!!!!:thanku:

Just bought 6 tickets for tomorrow night's game. Pretty good online deal - $10 per person for outfield "box" seats (section 106) and a bag of peanuts. Those seats are typically $30 a piece.

BTW - You can only order 2 tickets at a time - but I got 4 tickets together and 2 in the row below.

24champ
06-15-2007, 02:59 PM
Just bought 6 tickets for tomorrow night's game. Pretty good online deal - $10 per person for outfield "box" seats (section 106) and a bag of peanuts. Those seats are typically $30 a piece.

BTW - You can only order 2 tickets at a time - but I got 4 tickets together and 2 in the row below.

Yeah I checked the prices for when the Yankees come into town...and talk about a ripoff.

SpringStein
06-15-2007, 03:16 PM
Yeah I checked the prices for when the Yankees come into town...and talk about a ripoff.

Yankee fans can afford it. ;)

Master___Pain
06-15-2007, 03:37 PM
Just bought 6 tickets for tomorrow night's game. Pretty good online deal - $10 per person for outfield "box" seats (section 106) and a bag of peanuts. Those seats are typically $30 a piece.

BTW - You can only order 2 tickets at a time - but I got 4 tickets together and 2 in the row below.

Let me see if I understand this. The rockies, who can't sell out on their own are limiting the number of tickets someone can buy at one time? I guess if this is some sort of special ticket pricing, which it appears to be then it makes a little sense, and keeps the scalpers from gobbling them up. If I'm the rockies, I don't care who ends up with the tickets, just sell as many as possible with the D-Rays coming in.

RhymesayersDU
06-15-2007, 05:27 PM
So... We're in the year 2007, right? This isn't some twilight zone, is it?

The Rockies went into Fenway and won a series? Crazy.


But on the bright side, at least Denver teams are consistent. The Nuggets lost to teams like the Knicks and Grizzlies at home, only to get up for big games and beat some of the top teams. Rockies dropped a series to the Royals at home, but go into Fenway and beat one of the best teams in baseball.

Something in the water downtown or something!

I'd ad the Broncos not being able to beat the 49ers at home, but Cutler gets a pass.

SpringStein
06-15-2007, 05:43 PM
I'd ad the Broncos not being able to beat the 49ers at home, but Cutler gets a pass.

And Plummer gets an INT! :~ohyah!:

SpringStein
06-15-2007, 11:39 PM
With Dodgers and Padres losing, if the Rocks can hold on to this 5-2 lead, they will close the gap to 4 1/2.

The usual time of year before the annual slide. ;)

*edit* It was Giants and Padres losing, not Dodgers. I'm crazy.

MechanicalBull
06-15-2007, 11:51 PM
Mets end their five game losing streak by beating the Yankees 2-0. Reyes with an awesome night going 3-3 with one walk, 1 hr, 2 rbi, and 3 sb.

Every time I bench someone on my fantasy team(ie Oliver Perez) they always do good. :cuss:

WABronco
06-16-2007, 12:04 AM
Mangini was drafted for a reason. He's a solid hitter and a sound defender. It'll probably be a year or so before he gets into the bigs, but being an established hitter in college should make his transition into AA or AAA (wherever he'd go) easier and he should be able to move through the minors quickly. (Which is what I liked about a lot of the pitchers we took, and some of our other guys, like the OF from Oklahoma - experience will help them get through quicker, I'd hope.)

Mangini will probably end up at 1st, and I'll be surprised if he's in AA to start next year.

All that matters is that he swings lefty and he's flashed offensive ability (he was thought of as the no. 2 bat behind Weiters in the pre-season).

If anyone's gonna replace Beltre, in the future, it's gonna be Carlos Triunfel...he's in low-A right now.

Maybe Vidro isn't as bad as I think, maybe I'm just spoiled from Edgar. Probably. MFKIN BEAST.

Nah, he's a pretty bad option as a DH. He's actually been league-average (which is better than anything we've had for a while at that spot), but your DH shouldn't be a slap hitter.


I expect us to make a move for pitching. We could use another quality starter, someone who could be a #2, hopefully

Gammons said we're looking at Buerlhe (or however you spell his name). To get a guy like that, though, we'd have to sacrifice some sweet talent for a guy who probably won't even stick around after the season.

24champ
06-16-2007, 02:27 AM
Oreno chinko swe, Ros Angeres Angers ob Anaheimu!!

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070616/capt.ab714c87e58e478d84ea1b66076cc888.angels_dodge rs_baseball_cama110.jpg

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/7687/dodgerswinkk0.jpg

Paladin
06-16-2007, 02:36 AM
Rockies "held on", alright. 12 - 2. Wouldn't it be sweet if they couold sweep the Rays? Makes for a more interesting pre-All Star scenario. But I am not so sure that we will see the annual swoon. But it does depend on that swing through the left coast......

Clockwork Orange
06-16-2007, 02:45 AM
That's the second straight game in which the Rockies handed a previously unbeaten starter his first loss of the season.

Nice to see Holliday snapping out of his RBI drought.

Requiem
06-16-2007, 02:54 AM
Eh, Buehrle is an okay option. :/

Requiem
06-16-2007, 02:57 AM
Never heard of Carlos Triunfel until you mention, he's really young. 17? Wow. Couple of years. . . 3-4 and maybe we'll see him, eh?

Taco John
06-16-2007, 04:15 AM
Did anyone catch the utter sykness of Halladay tonight? He was throwing some wicked, wicked stuff.

Crowpointer
06-16-2007, 08:47 AM
Nice to see the great reception for Dave Roberts. Bonds of course got the reception everone expected (the asterisks were a nice touch). Pedroia 5 for 5 with 5 RBI's .Gotta love this kid.

Clockwork Orange
06-16-2007, 03:07 PM
Padres and Cubs just had a nice little go 'round. Chris Young plunked Derrek Lee, words were exchanged as Lee went to first and Lee & Young started throwing punches at each other (neither landed). Benches & bullpens emptied, the whole nine. There was a pile up and Carlos Zambrano looked like he wanted to a piece of someone from the opposing team for a change.

Clockwork Orange
06-16-2007, 03:10 PM
I guess the back story here is that Jake Peavy was quoted in the paper responding to Alfonso Soriano posing and admiring his home run from yesterday with, "I'd like to see the next guy take one in the ribs." This is the second time in a week that Soriano has drawn the ire of an opponent by showing up the opposing pitcher after a home run.

Clockwork Orange
06-16-2007, 03:16 PM
Here's the article.

Strutting Soriano infuriates Padres. (http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/padres/20070616-9999-1s16padres.html)

CHICAGO – On a festive afternoon at Wrigley Field, the Bleacher Bums couldn't contain themselves and neither could Cubs slugger Alfonso Soriano.

The Padres were pretty much bystanders to a 4-1 defeat, able only to threaten an unimposing pitcher, Ted Lilly, and unable to match the slugging power of Soriano and rookie Mike Fontenot.

The game itself, though, was almost incidental to the antics of two intrusive fans and Soriano, whose behavior drew strong comments afterward from Padres pitchers David Wells and Jake Peavy.

Let's start with Soriano. A former Yankees teammate of Wells, he is widely admired among players for his durability and for whipping an unusually heavy bat.

However, admiration isn't what Soriano inspired from the Padres in the sixth inning yesterday after he swatted a Wells pitch over the left-field wall and onto Waveland Avenue.

Soriano sashayed backward toward first base for several strides, admiring his solo homer and 11th overall, which had just made the score 4-1. It came three at-bats after Fontenot's two-run home run broke a 1-1 tie.

Wells didn't see Soriano's strut because he was watching the ball, but the entire Padres dugout got a good look.

“I didn't appreciate that. Just play the game,” Peavy said. “They pay him $136 million to hit home runs. They don't pay him to be a circus act on the field. If I think a player shows me up like that, I like the next guy to take one in the stinkin' ribs. That way, his teammate will let him know about it, (he) will tell him, 'Hey, you'd better run the bases.'

“Respect the game. That's the way it used to be. When you were growing up, did you see anybody act like that? Now it's accepted.”

Wells said he could understand a hitter preening after walloping a “massive” home run that, say, clears Waveland and strikes a building. But that wasn't the case. “I don't like people to show me up,” he said. “Respect the game. I take offense when people stare at (their home run). I don't show (hitters) up. I respect the game and the players.”
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I like it. Far too many hitters these days are admiring their shots and walking up the line staring at their home runs before they break into a trot. You show up the pitcher, you pay the price, that's the way it should be.

Pendejo
06-16-2007, 03:18 PM
I guess the back story here is that Jake Peavy was quoted in the paper responding to Alfonso Soriano posing and admiring his home run from yesterday with, "I'd like to see the next guy take one in the ribs." This is the second time in a week that Soriano has drawn the ire of an opponent by showing up the opposing pitcher after a home run.

I highly doubt Young hit Lee on purpose...the count was 1-2. If he was going to plunk someone it would be Soriano. There is no reason for Young to have been ejected. I guess he's just supposed to stand there and take it.

Jake Peavy also got ejected. I didn't see it, but I guess he tackled Lee.

F the Cubs.

(Edit: I guess during the melee...Carlos Zambrano took off his belt. What a maroon.)

Pendejo
06-16-2007, 04:54 PM
The Madres claim their third 1-0...two hit win of the season. This game had a little of everything.

If they were even average offensively...they'd be really tough to beat.

Paladin
06-16-2007, 05:52 PM
Maybe pitchers should do a dance when they strike out Soriano. Just a small hopping sort of dance with a fanfare from the speakers...... TA DAH!!!!!

Clockwork Orange
06-16-2007, 10:02 PM
El Gordo with a pair of bombs tonight. !Booya!

http://mlb.mlb.com/images/2005/07/24/oEolHYUF.jpg

Clockwork Orange
06-16-2007, 10:19 PM
Garrett Atkins has now homered in three straight games. A blip on the radar? Or is he coming out of his season long funk? Angry roto owners want to know!

-Slap-
06-16-2007, 10:54 PM
The Madres claim their third 1-0...two hit win of the season. This game had a little of everything.

If they were even average offensively...they'd be really tough to beat.

As I recall, Mike Ivie really hit the hell out of the ball in Dodger Stadium.

elsid13
06-16-2007, 11:42 PM
Red Sox pitching does it again, the question how long before Theo makes a move to improving the offense???

TheChamp24
06-16-2007, 11:43 PM
Damn, Rockies lookin like they are going to beat the DRays here. If they hang on to this lead, it will push them 2 above .500 and 4.5 games behind the Padres I believe.
As for All-Stars, I think Holliday is a given for the All-Star game. Brad Hawpe maybe, will have to see how he stacks up against other outfielders. Helton I think is a no becuase of Pujols and Prince already a given to go. Fuentes again has a good shot, but might not go if a team needs a rep and all they have is a decent pitcher to send.
If Francis had a better record I think he would be considered.
I say Holliday for sure now, and possibly Hawpe. If Helton really tears it up in the next few weeks to get 10+ homeruns and his average over .330, maybe.

Hogan11
06-17-2007, 12:09 AM
I hate it when these interleague series bring me up against good guys like B-Love, Taco and Calijohn.....rubber match against B's boys tomorrow and then onto face TJ's Mariners and then Calijohn's Angles after that.....WTF? ???

Sassy
06-17-2007, 01:02 AM
Three series in a row against OManer's teams! Ha!

Hogan11
06-17-2007, 01:12 AM
Three series in a row against OManer's teams! Ha!

If I didn't like each of these guys, it'd be a lot easier....you know, since "friendly competition" is a contradiction in terms and all Ha!

Sassy
06-17-2007, 01:14 AM
Time to place your bets! :devil:

Hogan11
06-17-2007, 01:25 AM
Time to place your bets! :devil:

Bets? It's insane to bet on the Pirates.....no way!

Pendejo
06-17-2007, 03:47 AM
As I recall, Mike Ivie really hit the hell out of the ball in Dodger Stadium.

If he's still alive the Madres should look in to signing him. They could use someone who can hit the ball anywhere.

SpringStein
06-17-2007, 06:25 PM
If he's still alive the Madres should look in to signing him. They could use someone who can hit the ball anywhere.

Nice timing...what did they have? - 4 HR's today? :flower:

SouthStndJunkie
06-17-2007, 06:26 PM
The Tigers take 2/3 from the Phillies.

Maggs with another nice day. 2/3 with another 3 RBIs (64).

Has 33 doubles now. Average up to .371.

Pendejo
06-17-2007, 06:33 PM
Nice timing...what did they have? - 4 HR's today? :flower:

Five.

Clockwork Orange
06-17-2007, 06:34 PM
Prince Fielder hit his 25th home run of the season, but this one was an inside the parker for the 260 pounder. He's probably still catching his breath. :)

Pendejo
06-17-2007, 07:49 PM
The Madres aren't as anemic offensively as they seem. They are just very streaky.

I think the Rockies have to be considered the top offensive team in the NL West...and they've only scored 11 more runs than the Madres (314-303)...while giving up 101 more (326-225).

Jens1893
06-17-2007, 08:19 PM
Prince Fielder hit his 25th home run of the season, but this one was an inside the parker for the 260 pounder. He's probably still catching his breath. :)

That was absolutely hilarious. Loved the way he took first ...

Hogan11
06-17-2007, 08:31 PM
Took two out of three from B-Love's Boys...now onto face Taco's troops.

TheChamp24
06-17-2007, 08:59 PM
Meh, you can't win every game, i'm satisfied with taking 2 of 3 from Tampa. Althoug Cook kinda got batted around there.
I think without the Padres fantastic pitching they've been getting, they'd probably be right around where the Rockies are.

MechanicalBull
06-18-2007, 08:26 PM
Damn the baseball thread falling all the way to the bottom of the 2nd page. Well anyway I was just having this conversation with my brother about how A-Rod is the AL MVP right now but then we were wondering who would be the NL MVP.

Reyes? Miguel Cabrera? Holliday? Fielder? Peavy? Someone else?

Clockwork Orange
06-18-2007, 08:34 PM
Damn the baseball thread falling all the way to the bottom of the 2nd page. Well anyway I was just having this conversation with my brother about how A-Rod is the AL MVP right now but then we were wondering who would be the NL MVP.

Reyes? Miguel Cabrera? Holliday? Fielder? Peavy? Someone else?

Prince Fielder has to be the frontrunner at the moment with Jose Reyes and Jake Peavy right behind him.

Hogan11
06-18-2007, 09:12 PM
Prince Fielder has to be the frontrunner at the moment.

They suspended Capps for three games instead of four for his accidental hitting of Fielder today, so he'll miss the Seattle series as a result. It's bullshat...the suspension should've been overturned entirely.

Clockwork Orange
06-18-2007, 09:31 PM
Right on cue, he jacks his 26th bomb of the season. :~ohyah!:

-Slap-
06-18-2007, 09:37 PM
Right on cue, he jacks his 26th bomb of the season. :~ohyah!:

:notworthy

-Slap-
06-18-2007, 09:40 PM
Man, that Grady Sizemore is just a joy to watch.

Clockwork Orange
06-18-2007, 09:41 PM
Man, that Grady Sizemore is just a joy to watch.

Kid does everything but sell the Cracker Jacks.

MechanicalBull
06-18-2007, 09:58 PM
Prince is just having a tremendous season so far. I still have yet to see the inside the parker from yesterday. I can really say nothing bad about Fielder.

elsid13
06-18-2007, 11:01 PM
Well schilling is bombed again. The man is getting old in front of us all.

SouthStndJunkie
06-19-2007, 09:24 PM
The Tigers are all over the Nationals tonight.

12-0 in the top of the 4th.

Man, this team can mash.

OrangeShadow
06-19-2007, 09:32 PM
Well schilling is bombed again. The man is getting old in front of us all.

Time to call up the kid.

elsid13
06-19-2007, 09:42 PM
Time to call up the kid.

Turner South reported that Schilling was sent back to Boston for MRI on his pitching arm. Might explain some of the control issues. But wonder if Lester or the kid from Double AA would be likely candidates to replace him???

OrangeShadow
06-19-2007, 09:44 PM
lester more than bucholz i can tell you that much

elsid13
06-19-2007, 10:21 PM
Beckett shows why he the ace of the staff tonight. Plus he has an RBI double.

Los Broncos
06-19-2007, 10:24 PM
Im watching the blue crew beat up the blue birds.

Pendejo
06-19-2007, 10:47 PM
I meant to post this on Sunday, but I drink a lot lot and forgot. This stat has no bearing on anything, but it does show total domination.

Mike Cameron...in his last four at bats against Cubs hurler Rich Hill...is 4 for 4...with you guessed it...four homeruns. Anyone have any idea what the record is for consecutive homeruns against a pitcher by any player...be it DH or a position?

Los Broncos
06-19-2007, 10:50 PM
I meant to post this on Sunday, but I drink a lot lot and forgot. This stat has no bearing on anything, but it does show total domination.

Mike Cameron...in his last four at bats against Cubs hurler Rich Hill...is 4 for 4...with you guessed it...four homeruns. Anyone have any idea what the record is for consecutive homeruns against a pitch by any player...be it DH or a position?

My guess is seven str8

Clockwork Orange
06-19-2007, 11:09 PM
Current All-Star voting

National League
1st Base
1. Fielder, P. Brewers 899,997
2. Pujols, A. Cardinals 876,849
3. Garciaparra, N. Dodgers 801,419
4. Lee, D. Cubs 539,563
5. Delgado, C. Mets 488,392

2nd Base
1. Utley, C. Phillies 930,123
2. Kent, J. Dodgers 668,802
3. Biggio, C. Astros 567,030
4. Weeks, R. Brewers 469,808
5. Valentin, J. Mets 367,015

Shortstop
1. Reyes, J. Mets 1,017,893
2. Hardy, J.J. Brewers 761,471
3. Furcal, R. Dodgers 579,771
4. Rollins, J. Phillies 463,384
5. Renteria, E. Braves 427,338

3rd Base
1. Wright, D. Mets 1,055,723
2. Cabrera, M. Marlins 822,435
3. Jones, C. Braves 626,964
4. Ramirez, A. Cubs 491,570
5. Rolen, S. Cardinals 448,005

Catcher
1. Martin, R. Dodgers 936,712
2. Lo Duca, P. Mets 814,870
3. McCann, B. Braves 585,344
4. Estrada, J. Brewers 547,481
5. Molina, B. Giants 480,958

Outfield
1. Beltran, C. Mets 1,343,727
2. Griffey Jr., K. Reds 1,169,419
3. Soriano, A. Cubs 1,013,625
4. B*nds, B. Giants 893,159
5. Jones, A. Braves 749,646
6. Lee, C. Astros 628,887
7. Holliday, M. Rockies 512,317
8. Gonzalez, L. Dodgers 486,587
9. Pierre, J. Dodgers 471,472
10. Alou, M. Mets 468,958
11. Francoeur, J. Braves 444,752
12. Jenkins, G. Brewers 440,773
13. Ethier, A. Dodgers 427,595
14. Hall, B. Brewers 423,496
15. Bay, J. Pirates 423,048

American League
1st Base
1. Ortiz, D. Red Sox 1,423,064
2. Morneau, J. Twins 736,786
3. Casey, S. Tigers 469,491
4. Giambi, J. Yankees 468,327
5. Hafner, T. Indians 408,896

2nd Base
1. Polanco, P. Tigers 856,075
2. Cano, R. Yankees 717,817
3. Pedroia, D. Red Sox 450,776
4. Upton, B.J. Devil Rays 382,770
5. Castillo, L. Twins 367,871

Shortstop
1. Jeter, D. Yankees 1,591,453
2. Guillen, C. Tigers 597,633
3. Tejada, M. Orioles 505,306
4. Lugo, J. Red Sox 425,674
5. Cabrera, O. Angels 349,105

3rd Base
1. Rodriguez, A. Yankees 1,914,162
2. Lowell, M. Red Sox 715,382
3. Inge, B. Tigers 375,968
4. Beltre, A. Mariners 249,883
5. Chavez, E. Athletics 248,018

Catcher
1. Rodriguez, I. Tigers 962,104
2. Posada, J. Yankees 806,452
3. Varitek, J. Red Sox 756,957
4. Mauer, J. Twins 731,805
5. Martinez, V. Indians 429,076

Outfield
1. Guerrero, V. Angels 1,541,241
2. Ramirez, M. Red Sox 1,098,497
3. Suzuki, I. Mariners 1,048,781
4. Ordonez, M. Tigers 970,300
5. Hunter, T. Twins 800,858
6. Sizemore, G. Indians 631,155
7. Sheffield, G. Tigers 630,255
8. Abreu, B. Yankees 561,613
9. Damon, J. Yankees 544,157
10. Drew, J.D. Red Sox 524,118
11. Matsui, H. Yankees 493,827
12. Crisp, C. Red Sox 447,172
13. Sosa, S. Rangers 407,339
14. Crawford, C. Devil Rays 342,338
15. Monroe, C. Tigers 274,540

MechanicalBull
06-19-2007, 11:23 PM
Current All-Star voting

National League
1st Base
1. Fielder, P. Brewers 899,997
2. Pujols, A. Cardinals 876,849
3. Garciaparra, N. Dodgers 801,419
4. Lee, D. Cubs 539,563
5. Delgado, C. Mets 488,392



Eventhough I like Pujols I would love to see Fielder be the starter.

Clockwork Orange
06-19-2007, 11:28 PM
What's really something is that 2 of the top 5 vote getters at first base in the AL are guys who don't even own a glove.

Hanley Ramirez not being in the top 5 in NL shortstop voting is a head scratcher.

Los Broncos
06-19-2007, 11:30 PM
Its nice to see Martin getting the start at catcher.

MechanicalBull
06-19-2007, 11:32 PM
What's really something is that 2 of the top 5 vote getters at first base in the AL are guys who don't even own a glove.

Hanley Ramirez not being in the top 5 in NL shortstop voting is a head scratcher.

I noticed Ramirez was left off too but I figured the other SS were known names and is probably the reason why.

I read earlier in the week Ortiz asked MLB to take his name off the voting sheet where the players vote for other players and to replace it with Youkilis instead since he doesn't really play 1b and wants to get his teammate some votes too.

OrangeShadow
06-19-2007, 11:52 PM
coco=best defensive center fielder in baseball

and both youk and papi will appear on the ballot

MechanicalBull
06-19-2007, 11:59 PM
With rumors heating up here are some from http://www.benmaller.com/mlb_rumors_notes#145642


The Yankees are expected to troll for a first baseman during the next six weeks. Todd Helton's remaining salary could drop him on their wish list, but he's enjoying a strong rebound season, batting .322 with six home runs and 37 RBIs. A week ago, he talked about the near-trade to Boston. He figures to get a few questions this week about a hypothetical transaction. It has been reported Helton would not approve a deal to the Yankees if it came up. "I have never said publicly that I wouldn't go to any team," Helton said. (http://www.denverpost.com/rockies/ci_6173144) So what about the Yankees? "They'd have to want me first," he said.
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The Angels have spoken to Cincinnati about Adam Dunn and to Baltimore about Miguel Tejada. If Texas fields offers for Mark Teixeira, the Angels would probably pursue the slugger (http://www.latimes.com/sports/baseball/mlb/angels/la-sp-angels19jun19,1,4035943.story?coll=la-headlines-sports-mlb-angels), but the price would be steep.
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With the White Sox struggling, trade rumors are floating around baseball, many of them involving free-agents-to-be Mark Buehrle and Jermaine Dye. So does Buehrle, the longest-tenured Sox pitcher who has the staff's lowest earned-run average and a no-hitter already this season, see himself gone? "Yes and no," he said. "I can see why I would be, the way we are playing and the baseball side of it. But then again, I want to spend my whole career here and hopefully I won't [get traded]." The latest rumor has Dye and Buehrle going to the Mets for prospects, which doesn't seem likely at this time. (http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/cs-070618soxbrite,1,3865908,print.story?coll=cs-home-headlines) "It's exactly what it is," Buehrle said. "It's rumors."
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The New York Yankees have expressed interest in Angels first baseman-DH Shea Hillenbrand (http://www.latimes.com/sports/printedition/la-sp-angrep19jun19,1,7970460.story?coll=la-headlines-pe-sports), but with Anderson on the DL and first baseman Casey Kotchman expected to sit out several more games because of a concussion, trade talks have been put on hold

WABronco
06-20-2007, 12:07 AM
coco=best defensive center fielder in baseball

and both youk and papi will appear on the ballot

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

OrangeShadow
06-20-2007, 12:17 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

you've obvisouly not watched coco play at all. He doesnt have the best arm but he covers more ground and makes more amazing catches than anyother CF.

sorry you guys out in washington dont get to watch REAL baseball.

Jens1893
06-20-2007, 12:26 AM
because real baseball is only played in boston and new york?

Taco John
06-20-2007, 12:27 AM
you've obvisouly not watched coco play at all. He doesnt have the best arm but he covers more ground and makes more amazing catches than anyother CF.

sorry you guys out in washington dont get to watch REAL baseball.




Maybe someday the Mariners will buy a championship so that we get the luxury... :wave:

Clockwork Orange
06-20-2007, 12:30 AM
because real baseball is only played in boston and new york?

If you believe ESPN, yes.

Clockwork Orange
06-20-2007, 12:55 AM
I love this quote from Todd Jones on the heels of his 3 run, 5 hit inning of work last night that saw a comfy 9-5 lead turn into a 9-8 nailbiter against the Nats.

"My job is to get outs, and I got them," said Jones, who has 17 saves in 21 opportunities but a 5.86 ERA. "You guys can laugh and make fun of the ERA all you want. But when that rubber hits the road, it goes through me and that's the way I want it."

Wow. :rofl:

Jens1893
06-20-2007, 01:00 AM
Rockies win! Down with the Yankees!

Master___Pain
06-20-2007, 01:08 AM
Josh Fogg pitched a gem tonight. In typical Fuentes fashion, he tried to make it exciting in the 9th

Dukes
06-20-2007, 01:13 AM
One of the hottest teams in baseball wins again tonight. Go Rocks!

24champ
06-20-2007, 01:33 AM
Im watching the blue crew beat up the blue birds.

Yup, glad we held onto Penny with Schmidt out for who knows how long. Along with Peavy, this guy shoved it up our ass nearly every time he went out there against us. I was so excited to see him doing that for us this year.

Rascal
06-20-2007, 02:11 AM
Great win for the Rockies and an outstanding performance from Fogg. Two excellent games in a row he has had.

Really wish Fuentes could get a 1-2-3 save more often. He needs to be more dominant.

Hopefully they can at least split the next two games and win their sixth series in a row.

DomCasual
06-20-2007, 02:13 AM
Listening to ESPN Radio tonight (Mike and Murray, or something like that?), and they're talking about the possibility of the Yankees catching the Red Sox. One of them is going into this long (and I mean LONG) diatribe about how the Yankees are "let's face it, playing the next six against two of the weakest teams in the league in Colorado and San Francisco."

Seriously, how do you get a job doing sports talk radio? Do these guys watch sports, or is that not a part of their jobs? The Rockies have gone 17-7 in their last 24 - including some quality wins against the best MLB has to offer. They are not an elite team, but neither are the Yankees right now.

And then on the Yankees official messageboard, there were a bunch of posts today about how the Yankees should easily be able to sweep the Rockies.

I have never wanted Rockies wins as much as I want them these three nights.

Billy Clyde Puckett
06-20-2007, 02:18 AM
Rocks flat out played the Yankees tonight, no matter how you want to slice it.

SoCalBronco
06-20-2007, 03:08 AM
What's with the name change, Big Guy?

Los Broncos
06-20-2007, 03:17 AM
Yup, glad we held onto Penny with Schmidt out for who knows how long. Along with Peavy, this guy shoved it up our ass nearly every time he went out there against us. I was so excited to see him doing that for us this year.

Jason might miss the rest of the season. Penny was outstanding tonight, when the pitching staff gets run support thay pitch very well.

Clockwork Orange
06-20-2007, 03:25 AM
A bit on Helton & the Yankees from cbs sportsline.

Interestingly, a Helton/Yankees marriage is getting some talk in the Denver Post. Initially, it was thought that Helton would reject a trade to the Bronx, which is his right to do as a 5-and-10 player. But he has recently raised some eyebrows by saying, "I have never said publicly that I wouldn't go to any team." When asked if that included the Yankees, he responded, "They'd have to want me first."

Helton's exit from Colorado would open up a slot for prospect Joe Koshansky. The 25-year-old lefty is hitting .324 with seven homers and 48 RBI at Triple-A Colorado Springs currently. Jeff Baker might initially get the first crack at the spot, however. Another option there is moving Garrett Atkins to first base, and calling up super prospect Ian Stewart to play third base. Stewart is the best hitting prospect of all involved.

Helton isn't going anywhere while the Rockies are playing well, but this could be re-visited should they hit their usual July swoon.

I will say this, it wouldn't shock me at all to see them shop Garrett Atkins regardless of how they're playing. Stewart is really heating up in AAA and the Angels have been rumored to be interested in Atkins for some time. Stay tuned.

Jens1893
06-20-2007, 03:38 AM
Could a Helton trade open the door for a Matt Holliday contract extension?

TheChamp24
06-20-2007, 05:21 AM
I would love the Rockies to sweep the Yanks and get some big time national attention for their streak they are on. Love how a lot of media outlets show no respect towards the Rockies. Although Boston and NY TV announcers respected the Rockies and said they are not a team to be taken lightly basically.
I don't really expect more than a split in the next 2 games though, and thats kinda hopeful thinking.

Also, man, what happened to Jason Schmidt? I bet the Dodgers are regretting that contract they got him for.

OrangeShadow
06-20-2007, 08:12 AM
Maybe someday the Mariners will buy a championship so that we get the luxury... :wave:

Well maybe if you guys had over a 100 year history like the red sox you would have a big market and be able to spend money. And the red sox didnt "buy" their championship. Considering many of the players on the 2004 roster had been there for many years.

Not my fault the sox have had devoted fans for over 100 years while you're teams barely been around for 30. :wave:

Crowpointer
06-20-2007, 10:00 AM
Well maybe if you guys had over a 100 year history like the red sox you would have a big market and be able to spend money. And the red sox didnt "buy" their championship. Considering many of the players on the 2004 roster had been there for many years.

Not my fault the sox have had devoted fans for over 100 years while you're teams barely been around for 30. :wave:

Rep to the Shadow on this one.

Hogan11
06-20-2007, 10:47 AM
Well maybe if you guys had over a 100 year history like the red sox you would have a big market and be able to spend money. And the red sox didnt "buy" their championship. Considering many of the players on the 2004 roster had been there for many years.

Not my fault the sox have had devoted fans for over 100 years while you're teams barely been around for 30. :wave:

As a Pirates fan, I can somewhat call bullshat on this notion....it all comes down to having an owner who is more interested in putting the team's revenue back into the team itself rather than line his own pockets with it. 100 Year history and a big market have little to do with it (see Cleveland, Oakland, et. al.)

Case in point, most wouldn't be able to guess that the Pirates were the 4th most profitable franchise in MLB last year.....and I can pretty much guarentee those profits didn't go back into the team.

BTW...pretty good showing by the Bucs last night in their first ever trip to Seattle....with Weaver on the mound for Taco's Troops tonight, there's no reason in the world why the Bucs shouldn't be able to take this series given his ERA is above 10.

WABronco
06-20-2007, 11:03 AM
you've obvisouly not watched coco play at all. He doesnt have the best arm but he covers more ground and makes more amazing catches than anyother CF.

sorry you guys out in washington dont get to watch REAL baseball.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Surely, you've heard of this Ichiro fellow from Japan. SURELY

WABronco
06-20-2007, 11:08 AM
Well maybe if you guys had over a 100 year history like the red sox you would have a big market and be able to spend money. And the red sox didnt "buy" their championship. Considering many of the players on the 2004 roster had been there for many years.

Not my fault the sox have had devoted fans for over 100 years while you're teams barely been around for 30. :wave:

Yea, well, not my fault...that...ummm...we weren't even awarded an expansion franchise until 1977.

Besides, the problem is not money, the problem is management.

Oh, and Putz>Paps.:-*

WABronco
06-20-2007, 11:10 AM
Buster Olney is reporting that SD just acquired Michael Barrett from Chicago. No word on the return.

OrangeShadow
06-20-2007, 11:22 AM
Oh, and Putz>Paps.:-*

well lets see.

Papelbon has a career ERA of 1.61 runs lower than putz
In 3 less years pap only has 91 Ks less than putz
lower WHIP
lower batting average against

Ill take a 3 year younger more dominant papelbon over putz.

-Slap-
06-20-2007, 11:25 AM
All it took was a world championship for Red Sox fans to become every bit as insufferable as Yankee fans.

ColoradoBuff
06-20-2007, 11:26 AM
How 'bout them Rockies!!!! Downed the Dirty Sox....now going after 'dem darn Yanks!!!

WABronco
06-20-2007, 11:51 AM
well lets see.

Papelbon has a career ERA of 1.61 runs lower than putz
In 3 less years pap only has 91 Ks less than putz
lower WHIP
lower batting average against

Ill take a 3 year younger more dominant papelbon over putz.

No no no. Putz pre-closer sucked balls (comparitively speaking, anyways). Putz the closer is the best in baseball.

Look at the WHIP, look at the BAA, look at the K/9, look at the K/BB...if you're into metrics you can go look at what BP has to say.

Next on the agenda:

Lump of dirt>Joel Pineiroid.:sunshine:

ro_50
06-20-2007, 12:13 PM
My Tribe are barely holding on and living on the edge.

Hafner's been in a miserable slump. Wonder if he's thinking about his contract, which expires after the '08 season.

OrangeShadow
06-20-2007, 01:05 PM
All it took was a world championship for Red Sox fans to become every bit as insufferable as Yankee fans.

How so exactly?

Paladin
06-20-2007, 02:49 PM
Snobbishly arrogant.

Crowpointer
06-20-2007, 02:50 PM
How so exactly?

Don't bother Shadow. Trying to explain what's it's like growing up in NE with the Sox to someone who didn't is futile. Not everybody can be a Sox fan.:thumbs:

Pendejo
06-20-2007, 03:08 PM
Buster Olney is reporting that SD just acquired Michael Barrett from Chicago. No word on the return.

Rob Bowen, and minor leaguer Kyler Burke. Apparently Towers asked for Greg Maddux's input before pulling the trigger (due to Barrett's temper), and he gave them a thumbs up.

OrangeShadow
06-20-2007, 03:27 PM
Snobbishly arrogant.

Im neither of those things. My entire life the sox were up and down and was there every step of the way. 2004 was a year i will never forget but unlike a lot of yankee fans i dont think my team is entitled to win the world series every year. Sure after 2004 they're are some bandwagon fans of the Red Sox but the vast majority of red sox nation went through a lot before winning it all.

I just take offense towards people who think every sox fan is snobbish and arrogant because of 2004 when its just not true. Do i think ESPN is biased towards the sox,yanks,cubs,mets and other big market teams? yes i do. Is it right? no. If i had it my way there wouldnt be any bias by ESPN. Id LOVE to see other teams get coverage just like id love to see the broncos get more national coverage. But until those other teams start bringing in big money to ESPN they wont get coverage because making money is all ESPN cares about for the most part.

Snobbish and arrogant? no
fan of a team that happens to become favored by ESPN over the past few years? yes.

So if you want to blame me for ESPN covering my favorite team more than yours go ahead. But i was a sox fan long before ESPN favored them and i will be one long after.

elsid13
06-20-2007, 06:45 PM
All I know is that opposing teams owners love when the Sox come into town. It the only time some of them sell out thier staduims.

Don't blame the Red Sox or the Yankees because the ownership groups are willing to put a quility product on the field. If other owners realize that to make money you need to spend money then there the field would be lot more level.

WABronco
06-20-2007, 07:52 PM
Rob Bowen, and minor leaguer Kyler Burke. Apparently Towers asked for Greg Maddux's input before pulling the trigger (due to Barrett's temper), and he gave them a thumbs up.

Pretty sweet deal for you guys, IMO. An offensive upgrade has to look good.

WABronco
06-20-2007, 08:08 PM
http://ussmariner.com/2007/06/20/letting-ichiro-leave-for-nothing/

Pretty interesting analysis of the situation the M's are facing with Ichiro, the pending FA.

Basically, there is no clear advantage in trading him for 'spects over letting him walk and taking two high picks.

As of right now, I'd like to see him stay and try and re-up him to form an FA-Adam Jones-Ichiro outfield in '08.

24champ
06-20-2007, 08:15 PM
Also, man, what happened to Jason Schmidt? I bet the Dodgers are regretting that contract they got him for.

Yeap, though many baseball pundits claimed it was a good signing by the Dodgers. While it looks like a bad signing now, Chad Billingsley takes over for Jason "Dreifort" Schmidt. C-Bill has a lot of talent and has shut down hitters this year in relief. Has amazing stuff.

24champ
06-20-2007, 08:18 PM
Jason might miss the rest of the season. Penny was outstanding tonight, when the pitching staff gets run support thay pitch very well.

I've seen this before with Penny, he does great in the first half of the season and then takes a giant **** in the second half. Hopefully it's different this year.

OrangeShadow
06-20-2007, 08:58 PM
WOOT sox already up 5 nothing
leadoff homer for drew
3 run bomb for coco(missed how they got the other run)

make that 7-0, 2 run BOMB for papi after he made a nice over the shoulder catch in foul ground

24champ
06-20-2007, 09:13 PM
Dodgers getting blown out, Kuo sucked and putting Bombko in isn't making anything better.

DomCasual
06-20-2007, 09:16 PM
Don't bother Shadow. Trying to explain what's it's like growing up in NE with the Sox to someone who didn't is futile. Not everybody can be a Sox fan.:thumbs:

...or wants to be a Sox fan.

I dislike the Red Sox more than any other team in baseball. It's strange, because up until three or four years ago, I would have listed them among the few teams (outside of the Rockies) I would always pull for.

Then, all of a sudden, you have everyone and their dogs wearing Red Sox garb, and talking about how they've been a fan all their lives. You have horrible, cutesy movies being made about them. And you have Bill Simmons (and nearly everyone else in the media, it seems) going on and on and on about them.

I will admit, though, that it's hard NOT to pull for them. The fact that they can even compete with a meager $143 million payroll is bordering on miraculous. :TJnPopps:

Dear Boston Red Sox fans,

We know your Red Sox didn't win a World Series in almost a century. We know you sold Babe Ruth. We know you've had some tough times. WE GET IT! We were happy for you when the Red Sox won in 2004. Now go away.

Signed,

The Average Baseball Fan

OrangeShadow
06-20-2007, 09:28 PM
Dear Boston Red Sox fans,

We know your Red Sox didn't win a World Series in almost a century. We know you sold Babe Ruth. We know you've had some tough times. WE GET IT! We were happy for you when the Red Sox won in 2004. Now go away.

Signed,

The Average Baseball Fan

Dear whiny small market team fans,

We get that you dont like all the bandwagon fans that popped up after 2004. But when people like you generalize like you are right now its really frustrating. So deal with the fact that there are bandwagon fans and go away.

Signed,

The average TRUE red sox fan

elsid13
06-20-2007, 09:44 PM
DL Drew pulled from the game with a sore hamstring.

WABronco
06-20-2007, 09:45 PM
Why do you keep bringing up the whole small market thing? It's completely irrelevant.

WABronco
06-20-2007, 09:49 PM
I dislike the Red Sox more than any other team in baseball. It's strange, because up until three or four years ago, I would have listed them among the few teams (outside of the Rockies) I would always pull for.

Same here. I love seeing Boston get beat in fenway, especially by...GASP...the Yankees!

elsid13
06-20-2007, 09:50 PM
Easy test for Red Sox Bandwagon fans - ask them who Gator was.

DomCasual
06-20-2007, 09:57 PM
Dear whiny small market team fans,

We get that you dont like all the bandwagon fans that popped up after 2004. But when people like you generalize like you are right now its really frustrating. So deal with the fact that there are bandwagon fans and go away.

Signed,

The average TRUE red sox fan

If the shoe was on the other foot - in ANY sport - you would feel the same way.

elsid13
06-20-2007, 10:03 PM
Lester to get the start for Boston against Seattle. Sweet nice award for the kid. Schilling to the DL

WABronco
06-20-2007, 10:09 PM
Lester to get the start for Boston against Seattle. Sweet nice award for the kid. Schilling to the DL

He will be a Mariner one day, mark my words!

OrangeShadow
06-20-2007, 10:50 PM
He will be a Mariner one day, mark my words!

howd that derek lowe and jason varitek for heacliff slocum trade work out for ya?

WABronco
06-20-2007, 10:52 PM
howd that derek lowe and jason varitek for heacliff slocum trade work out for ya?

Just super awesome, thanksforaskin'!

Pendejo
06-20-2007, 10:57 PM
Pretty sweet deal for you guys, IMO. An offensive upgrade has to look good.

Yeah...his bat should be nice. I read an article today that said the Madres are on the hook for only 700K of his contract.

I liked Bowen...he's a very serviceable catcher. A switch hitter who calls a solid game, and is good defensively. I'm not up on the minor leaguers like Bronco LB 52...but from what I've read Kyler Burke is a boom or bust type. He has a high ceiling, but to this point hasn't really gotten it going as a pro. (Although he was just drafted last year, and is only 18 or 19.)

On another board someone said that Cubs fans thought they were getting Scott Linebrink in the deal. Hah!

There's been rumblings that the Madres are talking to the Chi Sox about Jermaine Dye. I don't buy the Dunn rumors.

elsid13
06-20-2007, 11:12 PM
He will be a Mariner one day, mark my words!

I doubt it will be anytime soon. Theo is going to lock him up like the rest of the young pitching staff that the Sox are developing. He a young power left hander that pitch in Fenway. Something we haven't had since Bruce Hurst (I know Hurst was "true" power pitcher).

elsid13
06-20-2007, 11:13 PM
howd that derek lowe and jason varitek for heacliff slocum trade work out for ya?

About as well as the Larry Anderson trade worked out for us. Cursing now enuse

Clockwork Orange
06-20-2007, 11:49 PM
Matt Holliday with a 442 foot bomb off of Andy Pettitte. zowie! :strong: !Booya!

WABronco
06-21-2007, 12:06 AM
Can Jeff Weaver pull off the impossible and pitch into the 5th inning?

Did the M's come across perhaps the worst pitcher in MLB, and he's on the other team (WHAT?)?

Did Mike Hargrove just experience an explosive bowel movement, and proceed to do nothing but stare?

Tune in next time for...ehhhhh ok I'm done.

SpringStein
06-21-2007, 12:06 AM
Matt Holliday with a 442 foot bomb off of Andy Pettitte. zowie! :strong: !Booya!


Followed by a bad call by the home plate ump on a bang bang play at the plate.

Tavaras with an rbi single to give a 2 run lead.

24champ
06-21-2007, 12:11 AM
When was the last time Coors Field was that full?

OrangeShadow
06-21-2007, 12:12 AM
go rockies tonight, beat those damn yankees :)

Clockwork Orange
06-21-2007, 12:14 AM
Followed by a bad call by the home plate ump on a bang bang play at the plate.

Tavaras with an rbi single to give a 2 run lead.

Followed by a two run triple by Kaz Matsui. Make it 5-1.

Jeff Francis with another outstanding start tonight. 7 IP, 1 ER, 5 H, 1 BB, 9 K's.

Clockwork Orange
06-21-2007, 12:15 AM
6-1 as Holliday drives home Matsui. :~ohyah!:

SpringStein
06-21-2007, 12:20 AM
When was the last time Coors Field was that full?

Last night. ;)

24champ
06-21-2007, 12:27 AM
Last night. ;)

I know, I am walking distance from Coors Field. I would go to this series and I usually sit in left field about 3-4 rows up from the field and they cost me 22 bucks apiece but they jacked up the prices big time, no thanks Monforts.

Clockwork Orange
06-21-2007, 12:27 AM
Joe Torre really screwed his team tonight. Pettitte was done, but he didn't want to pull him because the pitcher's spot was due to lead off the next inning. He stuck with Pettitte far too long and the Rockies started teeing off on him. That's the kind of suckhead move I expect from Clint Hurdle.

Torre will be answering for that one to the 9000 reporters that surround him before and after games.

Pendejo
06-21-2007, 12:29 AM
I know, I am walking distance from Coors Field. I would go to this series and I usually sit in left field about 3-4 rows up from the field and they cost me 22 bucks apiece but they jacked up the prices big time, no thanks Monforts.

Cripes...I think the Madres only increased their ticket prices by two to $5 a ducket for their "premium" games...which of course includes the Blowhard Red Sox this weekend.

Clockwork Orange
06-21-2007, 12:32 AM
Cripes...I think the Madres only increased their ticket prices by two to $5 a ducket for their "premium" games...which of course includes the Blowhard Red Sox this weekend.

They're not owned by the Monforts. Those guys pinch pennies hard enough to make Abe Lincoln scream.

TheChamp24
06-21-2007, 12:35 AM
Man, go Rockies! That Holliday shot was a BOMB. I didn't see the play at the plate when Helton was thrown out, my mlb.tv vid is acting kinda screwy here. But man, coming up with clutch hits. 6-1 in the 9th, game over IMO.
Taking 2 from the Yanks, wohoo.
And Francis has pitched amazing too.

24champ
06-21-2007, 12:36 AM
Cripes...I think the Madres only increased their ticket prices by two to $5 a ducket for their "premium" games...which of course includes the Blowhard Red Sox this weekend.

Oh yeah, cost me 22.50 to sit 3-4 rows up from Left field. Section 152 to be exact and now for this Yankees series it costs 49.50. WTF.

24champ
06-21-2007, 12:42 AM
Man, go Rockies! That Holliday shot was a BOMB. I didn't see the play at the plate when Helton was thrown out, my mlb.tv vid is acting kinda screwy here. But man, coming up with clutch hits. 6-1 in the 9th, game over IMO.
Taking 2 from the Yanks, wohoo.
And Francis has pitched amazing too.

Yeah I was watching the Jays and the Dodgers on MLB.TV earlier and it was pausing on and off. I turned it off, Dodgers were suckin anyways.

SouthStndJunkie
06-21-2007, 12:45 AM
What's up with the Rockies jacking up the ticket prices for the Yankees series?

I know that the Yankees are a big draw, but there are a lot of Rockies fans that have sat through some piss poor baseball and deserve to see the Yankees series at an affordable price.

Pretty shortsighted.

Clockwork Orange
06-21-2007, 12:48 AM
What's up with the Rockies jacking up the ticket prices for the Yankees series?

I know that the Yankees are a big draw, but there are a lot of Rockies fans that have sat through some piss poor baseball and deserve to see the Yankees series at an affordable price.

Pretty shortsighted.

Again, it's the idiot owners who care nothing about fan relations and only about grabbing as much cash as they can. This series was their chance to gouge the paying customers and they took it.

No one here is surprised, believe me.

24champ
06-21-2007, 12:55 AM
BTW some decent tickets at reasonable prices still available for the Rockies vs Mets game on 4th of July...

Hercules Rockefeller
06-21-2007, 01:09 AM
Matt Holliday with a 442 foot bomb off of Andy Pettitte. zowie! :strong: !Booya!

Pettitte's reaction was great

Tredici
06-21-2007, 01:26 AM
Can we please not have an All Star break this season? I'm sure Rockie fans understand the sentiment....

DomCasual
06-21-2007, 01:31 AM
Matt Holliday with a 442 foot bomb off of Andy Pettitte. zowie! :strong: !Booya!

LOVED THAT! Pettitte knew it was gone the instant it hit the bat. They have GOT to work something out with Holliday. I've said it before, but he's the litmus test as to the sincerity of "the plan." They have said they were willing to spend money on free agents this offseason, but that there wasn't anyone that made sense. Great! That means they have money in the bank to put towards the Holliday contract.

I'm loving this - Rockies fans deserve a run like this. I only hope they can keep it up.

Clockwork Orange
06-21-2007, 01:37 AM
Can we please not have an All Star break this season? I'm sure Rockie fans understand the sentiment....

I was listening to 950 The Fan the other day and someone e-mailed in something along the lines of the following.

Dear Rockies Fans,

Enjoy winning games now, I'll be there soon to restore things to their natural order.

Signed,
The All-Star Break

I wish that weren't true. :nono:

Tredici
06-21-2007, 02:08 AM
I was listening to 950 The Fan the other day and someone e-mailed in something along the lines of the following.

Dear Rockies Fans,

Enjoy winning games now, I'll be there soon to restore things to their natural order.

Signed,
The All-Star Break

I wish that weren't true. :nono:

Ah yes. The half a season team as it were. In other related news I heard Peter Forsberg and Dan Hinote sat together enjoying last night's game....

Clockwork Orange
06-21-2007, 02:16 AM
Ah yes. The half a season team as it were. In other related news I heard Peter Forsberg and Dan Hinote sat together enjoying last night's game....

I'm telling you, 21 is coming home.....^5

Anyway, so as not to hockeyjack the baseball thread, here's how good Jeff Francis was tonight. He recorded 21 outs: 9 via strikeout, 11 groundouts and just one fly ball out.

He was 1-4 with a 6.19 ERA on May 2nd. He's since raised his record to 7-5 and lowered his ERA to a very respectable 3.43.

theAPAOps5
06-21-2007, 02:22 AM
Man the rockies are on FIRE. They lit up Andy Pettite tonight. Get a good look at Holiday while you can Rocks fans as the cheap ass Monforts will surely let him go refusing to pay what he will garner in FA.

I am a die hard Boston fan and a Rockies fan so this series has been amazing. The Rockies are fun to watch and the Suck Ass Yankees sitting 10 back again is just awesome. I loved seeing the Yanks faces at the end of the game tonight.

Hogan11
06-21-2007, 12:11 PM
Can Jeff Weaver pull off the impossible and pitch into the 5th inning?

Did the M's come across perhaps the worst pitcher in MLB, and he's on the other team (WHAT?)?

No...what you came across was the very definition of "Inconsistant" and "Medicore".....look both of them words up in the dictionary and you'll see this:

http://pittsburgh.pirates.mlb.com/images/players/mugshot/ph_430904.jpg

I'm not very happy....The Bucs had a chance to take the series against Weaver and his 10+ ERA and blew it....and now tonight's rubber match, they have to send out John Van Benschoten, basically a rookie, all because Snell can't make chicken without burning himself. :nono:

I tell you, being a Pirates fan is one of the toughest things anyone in the world can be.

PatsWin2002
06-21-2007, 12:36 PM
What's up with the Rockies jacking up the ticket prices for the Yankees series?

I know that the Yankees are a big draw, but there are a lot of Rockies fans that have sat through some piss poor baseball and deserve to see the Yankees series at an affordable price.

Pretty shortsighted.

I agree with you. Your fans deserve better. Maybe looking at the Red Sox ticket prices will make you feel better. :)

ColoradoBuff
06-21-2007, 01:01 PM
go rockies tonight, beat those damn yankees :)


Sure thing....already took a series from them Dirty Sox!!!:welcome:

Crowpointer
06-21-2007, 03:49 PM
I agree with you. Your fans deserve better. Maybe looking at the Red Sox ticket prices will make you feel better. :)

You know it is hard to believe but those field boxes used to be $18 (around 1990) and they proceeded to go up every year until they are now $105. My old office had 2 front row seats ( field box 60 row A) 20 feet to the right of the visiting dugout on third base side They were they best seats in Fenway and I got them at least twice a year for 13 years. Then when Henry bought the team he put those 3 rows of dugout seats in front of them. Row A was now the fourth row and I couldn't put my beer up on the wall. I was still the same distance from the field but it just wasn't the same. I left that firm a few years ago and my new office had good seats but nothing like my old office. Long story short we just took on a new partner about a month ago and he has seasons that he will allow the office to use (clients mainly but we will get games as well) front row on top of the Red Sox dugout! I have already staked the July 15th game next month to take my son to his first game for his 6th birthday. The only problem for him as he gets older is that he may never again get seats as good as the ones dad took him to when he was a kid.

theAPAOps5
06-21-2007, 05:22 PM
You know if the team where to put the money they are getting from gauging the fan base for the Yankees back into the team it would be great. The problem is this lousy ownership refuses to pay players. so this whole thing about the rockies building from within is great and all but every 4 years when the players explode they are going to let them walk rathr than pay. At least that is what they have demonstrated so far. They traded Jennings knowing they wouldn't pay what he was going to get offered when he hits FA. Same thing could happen with Holiday, Atkins, and Fuentez. They won't pay to keep their talent around. Even if it means the fan base will return with a talented team. They are just greedy POS owners relishing in revenue sharing.

Jens1893
06-21-2007, 05:32 PM
You know if the team where to put the money they are getting from gauging the fan base for the Yankees back into the team it would be great. The problem is this lousy ownership refuses to pay players. so this whole thing about the rockies building from within is great and all but every 4 years when the players explode they are going to let them walk rathr than pay. At least that is what they have demonstrated so far. They traded Jennings knowing they wouldn't pay what he was going to get offered when he hits FA. Same thing could happen with Holiday, Atkins, and Fuentez. They won't pay to keep their talent around. Even if it means the fan base will return with a talented team. They are just greedy POS owners relishing in revenue sharing.

You do make some good points, but even some die hard Monfort haters are cutting the Rox a break on the Jennings deal.

-Slap-
06-21-2007, 05:53 PM
Can Jeff Weaver pull off the impossible and pitch into the 5th inning?


The league was batting .413 against Weaver this season. .413! Yet he manages to four hit the Pirates last night.

ROFL!

The shutout lowered his ERA to 8.56 on the season.

Ha!

SpringStein
06-21-2007, 05:54 PM
Nationally most writers felt that the Rockies did very well on the Jennings deal. And that is looking more and more like the case.

Clemens is out after going 4 1/3. Rocks hanging on to a 3-2 lead.

bfoflcommish
06-21-2007, 05:55 PM
Rox chased Rocket after 4 and a third....up 3-2 with 2 on bottom of 5

SpringStein
06-21-2007, 06:02 PM
4-2, Clemens is on the hook for the 4.