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Smelvin
05-22-2007, 02:50 PM
I like Cleveland the city a lot actually...but I'm rather indifferent to the American League as a whole.

As far as the Jake goes...yeah, it's a beautiful park, but out of the ones I've been to thus far, I'd rank Coors and especially PNC ahead of it.

Check out Pac Bell...or AT&T, whatever. It will alwasy be Pac Bell to me.

Hands down the most beautiful park in America. You can sit in the upper deck, have a fantastic view of the game and watch 100 sail boats in the Bay crouise around. The Bay Bridge is in the backgroud...lefties with power can reach the drink...just a fantsatic viewing experience.

The All-Star game is in SF this year so everyone will see what it's about.

MechanicalBull
05-22-2007, 06:40 PM
With Giambi's contract it is going to be hard to unload him unless the Yankees decide to eat a decent amount of it. This guy is the only one to pretty much come out and admitted he took something and now everyone hates him and is giving him slack for it. The Yankees and their fans want to get rid of him and dump his salary and MLB doesn't really want him saying anything. Their whole stance on trying to clean up the sport is one big joke. I'm not a huge Giambi fan but I do like it that he had the guts to stand up and at least admit something.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/05222007/sports/yankees/saying_halo_yankees_george_king.htm

The Angels’ interest in Giambi, who was in a 1-for-26 slump and batting .268 going into last night’s game, was before the recent controversy surfaced. It’s likely the Angels, who have 30 homers, will wait to see what MLB does before pursuing a deal the Yankees would have to listen to very seriously.

The Angels have utility man Chone Figgins to move as well as backup catcher Jose Molina. And their farm system is loaded with young arms. However, if the Yankees have to eat a sizeable portion of Giambi’s salary to make the trade they would want more back for Giambi. As for Giambi, he has a blanket no-trade clause. However, the Angels play 20 minutes from West Covina, where he grew up, and an equal distance from the Orange County beaches Giambi enjoys.

Hogan11
05-22-2007, 07:31 PM
Check out Pac Bell...or AT&T, whatever. It will alwasy be Pac Bell to me.

Hands down the most beautiful park in America. You can sit in the upper deck, have a fantastic view of the game and watch 100 sail boats in the Bay crouise around. The Bay Bridge is in the backgroud...lefties with power can reach the drink...just a fantsatic viewing experience.

The All-Star game is in SF this year so everyone will see what it's about.

I've never been to San Francisco in my life....I can't weigh in on a park I've never been to, that wouldn't be honest, but if I ever do get out that way, it'll absolutely be on the list of things to see.

-Slap-
05-22-2007, 09:03 PM
Six WS actually, as PatsWin pointed out, and go take a look over those old Yankees championship teams. They weren't built on farm development but on horrible mismanagement by then Red Sox ownership. Its the seedy history of baseball now long since past, a scandal easily comparable to the Chicago Black Sox, but with a much larger legacy.

You can't be comparing the sale of Babe Ruth to the fixing of the 1919 World Series. Ruth's arrival in New York and his incredible popularity rescued baseball in the dark days after the Black Sox scandal. Believe it or not, a lot of Boston sportswriters actually thought Frazee robbed the Yankees by getting $80,000 for Ruth. They thought Ruth was too wild to ever settle down and believed he would drink his way out of baseball at a young age.

I don't know any other trades between the two clubs that would have significantly swung the balance of power. Besides, the Yankees had multiple championships/dynasties throughout the 20s, 30s, 40s and 50s (http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/NYY/). Pretty mean conspiracy. Just like today, they simply had more resources than anybody else. Before the amatuer draft, or the reserve clause, once a player signed with a club, they owned him for life. The Yankees signed tons of great ballplayers and then just buried them in their minor league system for their entire careers. What are you supposed to do if you're a catcher and you've got Bill Dickey ahead of you on the big club and Yogi Berra ahead of you in the farm system? The answer was you got used to bus rides to Altoona or you found another line of work. The Yanks had guys who could have started on half the teams in the majors and they were lucky to get a cup of coffee in September.

Drek
05-22-2007, 10:01 PM
After the sale of Ruth to the Yankees, Frazee continued to sell many of his star players. In the winter of 1920, Wally Schang (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wally_Schang), future star pitcher Waite Hoyt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waite_Hoyt), Harry Harper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Harper), and Mike McNally were traded to the Yankees for Del Pratt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Del_Pratt), Muddy Ruel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muddy_Ruel), John Costello (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Costello), Hank Thormahlen, Sammy Vick and cash.<sup id="_ref-5" class="reference">[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Red_Sox#_note-5)</sup> The following winter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1921_in_baseball), iron man shortstop (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shortstop) Everett Scott (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everett_Scott), and pitchers Bullet Joe Bush (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullet_Joe_Bush) and Sad Sam Jones (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sad_Sam_Jones) were traded to the Yankees for Roger Peckinpaugh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Peckinpaugh) (who would be immediately shipped to the Washington Senators (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Twins)), Jack Quinn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Quinn_%28baseball%29), Rip Collins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rip_Collins), Bill Piercy and $50,000.<sup id="_ref-6" class="reference">[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Red_Sox#_note-6)</sup> One particularly controversial deal was that of Joe Dugan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Dugan) and Elmer Smith (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elmer_Smith), who were traded to the Yankees on July 23 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_23), 1922, for Elmer Miller, Chick Fewster, John Mitchell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Mitchell), and future superstar Lefty O'Doul (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lefty_O%27Doul), who was at the time a mediocre pitching prospect. The trade of Dugan helped the Yankees edge the St. Louis Browns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltimore_Orioles) in a tight pennant race, and the resulting uproar helped create a June 15 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_15) trading deadline that went into effect the next year.<sup id="_ref-7" class="reference">[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Red_Sox#_note-7)</sup> Perhaps an even more outrageous deal was the trade of Herb Pennock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herb_Pennock), occurring in early 1923. Pennock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herb_Pennock) was traded by the Red Sox to the Yankees for Camp Skinner, Norm McMillan, George Murray (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Murray) and $50,000.<sup id="_ref-8" class="reference">[10] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Red_Sox#_note-8)</sup>

Frazee bought the team and less than four years later began a monumental firesale that surpasses both Marlins firesales combined, almost all of which was sent to the Yankees for middling talent and cash to finance his various preferential endevours.

That same core basically went form winning championships in Boston to winning them in New York, which built the team into the powerhouse it was for the next several decades.

So you don't consider a theater man coming in and liquidating pretty much all talent from a perenial championshiship team to its' regional rival, primarily in cash deals, over half a decade comparable to a single fixed series in which not even the entire team was in on?

One seems a hell of a lot seedier to me, and its the one that has nothing to do with players trying to screw an owner nicknamed "Commie".

Doesn't matter now though, Sox fans have walked through the proverbial valley of darkness that was horrible mismanagement and poor ownership to now finally be delivered by real baseball men, and we're enjoying the rewards.

-Slap-
05-22-2007, 10:48 PM
Frazee bought the team and less than four years later began a monumental firesale that surpasses both Marlins firesales combined, almost all of which was sent to the Yankees for middling talent and cash to finance his various preferential endevours.

That same core basically went form winning championships in Boston to winning them in New York, which built the team into the powerhouse it was for the next several decades.

So you don't consider a theater man coming in and liquidating pretty much all talent from a perenial championshiship team to its' regional rival, primarily in cash deals, over half a decade comparable to a single fixed series in which not even the entire team was in on?

One seems a hell of a lot seedier to me, and its the one that has nothing to do with players trying to screw an owner nicknamed "Commie".

Doesn't matter now though, Sox fans have walked through the proverbial valley of darkness that was horrible mismanagement and poor ownership to now finally be delivered by real baseball men, and we're enjoying the rewards.

Its a bit more complicated. The AL president at the time was Ban Johnson and he basically pressured five of the seven AL teams into not making any deals with Frazee. This left Boston only the recently disgraced White Sox or the Yankees as available trading partners. Most of the trades between the two clubs didn't look that bad at the time they were made. Ed Barrow was the Red Sox GM and when he left for New York in 1920, he made a point of acquiring players who he was familiar with from his days in Boston. Its certainly not a stretch to figure he would know which prospects had the most potential, seeing as how he originally signed them all years earlier. The Red Sox might have gotten fleeced, but trades are part of the game. Besides, the Yankees most dominant dynasties didn't happen until the 30s and 50s, long after the influence of those lopsided trades would have made much impact.

Drek
05-23-2007, 03:03 AM
Its a bit more complicated. The AL president at the time was Ban Johnson and he basically pressured five of the seven AL teams into not making any deals with Frazee. This left Boston only the recently disgraced White Sox or the Yankees as available trading partners. Most of the trades between the two clubs didn't look that bad at the time they were made. Ed Barrow was the Red Sox GM and when he left for New York in 1920, he made a point of acquiring players who he was familiar with from his days in Boston. Its certainly not a stretch to figure he would know which prospects had the most potential, seeing as how he originally signed them all years earlier. The Red Sox might have gotten fleeced, but trades are part of the game. Besides, the Yankees most dominant dynasties didn't happen until the 30s and 50s, long after the influence of those lopsided trades would have made much impact.
It is more complicated, more than your portrayal as well.

For example, almost none of those deals were perceived in a fair light at the time (take it from someone who's talked to various Red Sox/Yankee fans alive at the time, like my own late grandfather), which is why pretty much all of them included cash.

How much cash? Well when you add in the payout for Ruth you're talking over $300,000. Frazee only paid $500,000 for the whole damn team.

Also, the Ruth deal, yeah he was restricted to the Yankees and White Sox, but the White Sox offered Joe Jackson and $60,000 while the Yankees offered a straight $100,000. What strikes you as the better organizational move? Remember at this time Joe Jackson wasn't banned (he in fact played the entire 1920 season) and wouldn't have been prompted by Charlie Comiskey to plead guilty.

Frazee owned the team through '23, just long enough to finish trading away as many assets as he could to former right hand man Ed Barrow before selling the team at over twice the price he paid for it. Never mind that the entire situation was instigated by Frazee's hatred of Ban Johnson and a $350,000 loan from the Yankees, his end alone is a pretty obvious smash and grab heist without the least bit of subtlety.

He bought low, parted the organization out to his backers in New York, and made off with a pile of cash, all while spiting in the face of Ban Johnson and the "Loyal Five" who then got to play against one team with the organizational depth of two. In his 6 years of ownership Frazee made over $1 Million dollars profit.

Thing is, I'm not bitter or anything over it. The Yankees ownership made the moves needed at the time to become a contender. Was it crooked? Hell yes, but that was the nature of pro baseball at the time. But it just goes to show you the power of good ownership. After the Sox left Frazee they went through the inept ownership of Quinn followed by the misguided and soft hearted Yawkeys. They consistently knee capped the franchise for decades. No curse of Babe Ruth or any such nonsense, just plain old mismanagement. We've got a great ownership group now though, and are reaping the profits.

It wasn't too many years ago that the Red Sox couldn't sell out a stadium as small as Fenway, now tickets couldn't be worth more if they were made of solid gold. This is almost entirely thanks to the new ownership. Thats why I can't help but laugh at all the "big market/small market" whiners who think its a totally unbalanced league. Its the ultimate convergence of sports and capitalism. Two of the defining characteristics of our country in one game. If you have a shrewd businessman at the helm who is also a baseball guy and cares about winning you can make a powerhouse organization, both on the field and in the bank account.

Hogan11
05-23-2007, 10:08 AM
Conspiracy? You want a conspiracy? This takes the cake in my book:

In an orchestrated move with Bud Selig and John W. Henry (owner of the Florida Marlins at the time), Henry bid for the Boston Red Sox, sold the Florida Marlins to Loria for $158.5 million, including a $38.5 million no-interest loan from MLB. The deal was approved by the other owners before Loria and Henry even signed a contract. Loria promptly sold the Expos to "Expos Baseball, LP," a partnership of the other 29 major league clubs, for $120 million. Loria then moved the Expos' entire front office and on-field staff to Florida.

The end results of this deal:

Each MLB club got a cut of the Expos sale to Washington DC and both Loria and Henry got a World Series Championship after the deal (Loria's Marlins in 2003 & Henry's Red Sox in 2004).

Hmmm.

Drek
05-23-2007, 11:31 AM
Conspiracy? You want a conspiracy? This takes the cake in my book:



The end results of this deal:

Each MLB club got a cut of the Expos sale to Washington DC and both Loria and Henry got a World Series Championship after the deal (Loria's Marlins in 2003 & Henry's Red Sox in 2004).

Hmmm.

Yeah, Selig ran a pretty good shell game there trying to set up his much desired contraction. But there wasn't anything that attacked the integrity of the game between the lines, which Frazee's fire sale did.

I do find it rather hilarious that Tom Werner, now Red Sox minority owner, did his own fire sale with the Padres a little over a decade ago. I also find it hilarious that Henry went from a team with a bad lease agreement where he was constantly pining for a new stadium (even saying he'd build it with his own money if need be) to the oldest stadium in baseball but talks of building a new one were shelved within a year of purchase.

The net effect on the Red Sox is a different owner, but its one with a commitment to winning. Frazee's effect, as I said, was basically giving one team the organizational depth of two, while he made a quick money grab. One is just back room corporate dealing, one impinges the integrity of the teams fans watched for over a decade.

PatsWin2002
05-23-2007, 11:50 AM
What do y'all think of this Giambi thing?

Report: Giambi failed amphetamines test within last year (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2879878)

We all knew that big, sweaty, pumpkinhead was back on something!

Smelvin
05-23-2007, 04:48 PM
Tim freaking Lincecum. simply awesome!!!

Clockwork Orange
05-23-2007, 04:53 PM
What do y'all think of this Giambi thing?

Report: Giambi failed amphetamines test within last year (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2879878)

We all knew that big, sweaty, pumpkinhead was back on something!

Giambi: Those didn't help me hit the ball either.

Reporter: Then why did you take them?

Giambi: No comment.

What a joke this guy is.

Hogan11
05-23-2007, 05:25 PM
Yeah, Selig ran a pretty good shell game there trying to set up his much desired contraction. But there wasn't anything that attacked the integrity of the game between the lines, which Frazee's fire sale did.

What?

Just by having the league own and operate the Expos for a few years the integrity of the game was jepardized...especially with moves like refusing the team to have September callups. It was a clear conflict of interest and it put MLB in the ranks of the WWE and XFL while it was going on.

The net effect on the Red Sox is a different owner, but its one with a commitment to winning. Frazee's effect, as I said, was basically giving one team the organizational depth of two, while he made a quick money grab. One is just back room corporate dealing, one impinges the integrity of the teams fans watched for over a decade.

The net effect of the entire franchise swap situation was one where all it's principle's profited.....very quickly. Honestly, It probably was circumstance that had the Marlins beat the Yankees in 2003 and the Red Sox grabbing their first World Series in ages the very next year....but it also smells somewhat fishy. In a league where a clear conflict of interest can blatently take place for a couple of years, it remains a not so far fetched possibility whether one wants to admit it or not.

Bronco LB 59
05-23-2007, 06:07 PM
What?

Just by having the league own and operate the Expos for a few years the integrity of the game was jepardized...especially with moves like refusing the team to have September callups. It was a clear conflict of interest and it put MLB in the ranks of the WWE and XFL while it was going on.

The MLB Commissioners Office not allowing the Expos to expand their roster from 25-to-40 was downright dirty and the media did a lousy job of giving the story the attention it deserved. Frank Robinson and the Expos entered September 2003 in the thick of the pennant race.

Hogan11
05-23-2007, 06:37 PM
The MLB Commissioners Office not allowing the Expos to expand their roster from 25-to-40 was downright dirty and the media did a lousy job of giving the story the attention it deserved. Frank Robinson and the Expos entered September 2003 in the thick of the pennant race.

Yes...that move and the deal as a whole casts a shoadow of doubt on the legitimancy of both the Marlins & Red Sox WS championships to me.....it all seems too perfect....almost like it was some sort of part of the inital deal.

The sweeping under the rug of the callup refusal at the time is also mindboggling....maybe no one wanted to bring into question the integrity of the so-called National Passtime and chose to ignore an obivous wrong as it was happening, who knows.

The franchise swap of 2002 stunk to high heaven....and it still does.

MechanicalBull
05-23-2007, 08:53 PM
What do y'all think of this Giambi thing?

Report: Giambi failed amphetamines test within last year (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2879878)

We all knew that big, sweaty, pumpkinhead was back on something!

I really don't find him taking amphetamines that big of a story since everyone already knew and he admitted that he was taking something else much worse than that. Plus years ago a lot of ballplayers were taking amphetamines.

The whole MLB trying to clean up the sport is a joke. They want the players to be clean but they also don't want the players to be clean.

SouthStndJunkie
05-23-2007, 08:59 PM
Magglio Ordonez is off to a heck of a start this year.

.344 average

21 doubles

11 HRs

41 RBIs

SouthStndJunkie
05-23-2007, 09:11 PM
Make that 12 HRs and 42 RBIs.

Dude is on fire.

2 HRs so far tonight.

MechanicalBull
05-23-2007, 10:09 PM
Make that 12 HRs and 42 RBIs.

Dude is on fire.

2 HRs so far tonight.

Yeah he is on fire to start the season so far. It's also great for whoever has him on their fantasy team :~ohyah!:

SouthStndJunkie
05-24-2007, 03:10 PM
Put out the fire......Maggs is still smoking!

4-4 so far today. Average up to .361 at the moment. 2 more doubles (23) and 3 more RBIs (45).

Clockwork Orange
05-24-2007, 03:42 PM
This is something else.

http://sports.espn.go.com/fantasy/baseball/flb/story?id=2881166&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab2pos2

No, not the article, the fact that the guy who wrote the article is named Tristan Cockcroft.

http://assets.espn.go.com/i/columnists/Cockcroft_tristan_55.jpg

Seriously, have you ever heard a gayer name than that for a guy in your life?

MechanicalBull
05-24-2007, 06:14 PM
This is something else.

http://sports.espn.go.com/fantasy/baseball/flb/story?id=2881166&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab2pos2

No, not the article, the fact that the guy who wrote the article is named Tristan Cockcroft.

http://assets.espn.go.com/i/columnists/Cockcroft_tristan_55.jpg

Seriously, have you ever heard a gayer name than that for a guy in your life?

Hilarious! It can't be. That can not be his real name I refuse to believe that his parents named him Tristan Cockcroft.

Clockwork Orange
05-24-2007, 06:56 PM
According to ESPN, the Yankees have expressed interest in Todd Helton and Brian Fuentes, but no deal is imminent. It's on the front page on espn.com in the rumors section and to read it you have to have insider, so that's all I've got.

Something to keep an eye on.

MechanicalBull
05-24-2007, 08:24 PM
According to ESPN, the Yankees have expressed interest in Todd Helton and Brian Fuentes, but no deal is imminent. It's on the front page on espn.com in the rumors section and to read it you have to have insider, so that's all I've got.

Something to keep an eye on.

Just keep on adding to the payroll for the Yanks. Helton would help them out but they don't need hitting they need pitching so why get Helton. They are probably interested since they know Boston is interested.

Bob Ryan was on WFAN here in NY the other day and he mentioned that Boston would love to get Helton but doesn't see it happening with how well Youkilis and Lowell are playing right now because with Ortiz as the DH one of those two(Lowell or Youkilis) would always be on the bench unless Lowell was part of the deal.

MechanicalBull
05-24-2007, 08:32 PM
With Minn 7 games out at the moment does Torii Hunter get traded before this season ends? If yes then where are some likely destinations?
Despite being off to the best start of his eight-year major league career, it remains doubtful that the Minnesota Twins can re-sign Torii Hunter, who can become a free agent after the season.

The reason is that Hunter, who is on his way to his second all-star appearance, will be unaffordable.

At his present pace, Hunter, 31, who is being paid $12 million this season, can expect guaranteed offers in the $75 million range over five years, or $60 million for four years.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/rumors/post/Hunter-not-likely-to-stay-in-Minnesota;_ylt=At6mBxJ4Wb.LeyWpiZnh8NMRvLYF?urn=ml b,33618

Clockwork Orange
05-24-2007, 11:10 PM
Seven trades that need to happen before the deadline. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/jon_heyman/05/21/monday.scoop/index.html)

There are still two months to go before the trade deadline. But I'm already envisioning some deals that need to be made. Here are a few that come to mind:

1. Scott Rolen to the Dodgers
Los Angeles is desperately seeking additional power, and Rolen fits the bill. Ned Colletti, one of the game's more aggressive GMs, has looked just about everywhere for power, which is the glaring weakness on an otherwise well-balanced team. Colletti recently said he wasn't going after Blue Jays third baseman Troy Glaus. But he hasn't denied interest in Rolen.

The Cardinals have not yet signaled they're ready to throw in the towel, but if things continue to go south, it would make sense to trade Rolen, who has an uneasy relationship with manager Tony La Russa and would have some market value despite his awful start (.215). (Rolen has three years and $36 million remaining on his contract after this season.) The Dodgers have prospects to trade, including a third baseman, Andy LaRoche, plus young pitchers.

2. Garrett Atkins and Todd Helton to the Angels
Owner Arte Moreno is still itching to do something "major'' and this would qualify, especially with Helton recapturing his swing early this year (.360 batting average, .472 on-base percentage). Reports indicate the Angels have inquired about Atkins, who isn't as untouchable as one might think. The Rockies' top minor-league prospect is third baseman Ian Stewart.

Rockies people always liked the idea of dealing with the Angels regarding Helton because LA of A has plenty of prospects. The Rockies would have to offset the $87 million remaining on Helton's contract by about $35 million or so, but they'd be happy to consider Casey Kotchman, Erick Aybar, Jeff Mathis or any number of Angels prospects in exchange. Helton has a no-trade clause, but the chance to win in Anaheim is probably enough to entice him to waive his veto powers, as he did when Boston showed interest this winter.

3. Chad Cordero to the Indians
Cleveland looks like it has a decent shot at a playoff spot, even from the ultra-tough AL Central. But to get there, they'll need a closer better than Joe Borowski, who's toting an 8.44 ERA (though he does have 13 saves in 15 tries). The Indians revamped their bullpen this winter, but other AL contenders have much more established and dominating ninth-inning men (i.e. Francisco Rodriguez, Jonathan Papelbon, Mariano Rivera, Joe Nathan and even Bobby Jenks). Cordero has a lot of guts, but there's some concern as to whether his stuff would be short in the AL. It doesn't help that he's off to a slow start, with only five saves in nine opportunities. Nationals GM Jim Bowden likely will ask for the moon, anyway, so Cleveland may have to look elsewhere. But it does need to look somewhere.

4. Ken Griffey Jr. to the White Sox
Griffey hasn't shown any willingness to go to New York when the opportunity has arisen. But maybe Chicago's more to his liking. It's a nice city with a nice team that still should have a chance, something that has eluded the Reds regularly. It's finally time to thrown in the towel on the great Griffey trade to his hometown team, an annual albatross for the also-running Reds.

The White Sox have been hurt by the injury to Jim Thome and could use the left-handed power Griffey provides. Griffey (eight homers, 26 RBIs, .297) is having a fine year. But he'd be much better off having the DH option, which could limit his own well-known propensity for pain.

5. Troy Glaus to the Tigers
Helton would also be a natural fit for Detroit, which isn't getting much from first base, where the beloved Sean Casey (winner of SI's poll for Friendliest Player) has struggled. Helton might be a better fit as a left-handed hitter and natural first baseman, but Glaus (eight homers, 21 RBIs, .307) would help, as well.

6. Al Reyes to the Brewers
Milwaukee would like some bullpen fortification, and this ex-Brewer certainly would do the trick. He's come out of nowhere to go 12 for 12 in saves with a 1.31 ERA. A far cry from his mop-up days in Milwaukee, when the Brewers were an AL also ran, not an NL Central contender.

7. Jon Rauch to the Red Sox
Boston's bullpen can't be this good, can it? Rauch, a solid setup man (2-0. 3.70), is wasted in Washington, and the 6-foot-11 right-hander would enhance the Red Sox's relief crew.

Clockwork Orange
05-25-2007, 06:35 PM
Brian Cashman's ass is on the line this season. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2882684)

I thought this part was nice.

The Yankees' owner is also known for his generosity to those in need off-the-field, especially young people.

He said he was deeply moved by the April massacre at Virginia Tech. The Yankees made a $1 million contribution to the school's "Hokie Spirit Memorial Fund" to assist the victims' families, and honored the victims before playing the Boston Red Sox on Wednesday night. Virginia Tech's president threw out the first pitch and the Yankees wore VT logos on their caps.

"I feel very strongly about the young people," Steinbrenner said. "I feel so strongly about the teachers and the school, all the people affected by this. We wanted to help in the healing process."

OrangeShadow
05-25-2007, 07:03 PM
id like the sox to maybe deal for one more reliever and some depth, rauch would be an awesome addition

Taco John
05-26-2007, 02:22 AM
MAN-O-MAN!

Friday night was a slugfest out there!

Check your teams hit level. If you don't have something in the double digits for Friday, you need to seriously consider your roster. It was a fireworks rally out there on the sticks across the league.


Also, if you're looking for a bat that's red hot right now and is available in just about every league, look for Ramón Vázquez (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6815). He's only hitting .600 right now, and he can give your team flexibility at 3B and SS (until he fizzles out, but nows the time to catch a rising star and ride him as far as he can get you).

Clockwork Orange
05-26-2007, 02:24 AM
Brian Fuentes leads the majors with 10 saves in the month of May. The Rockies should really be looking to sell high on him to a contender/hopeful contender with closer issues (Braves, Indians, Cubs).

Clockwork Orange
05-26-2007, 02:26 AM
MAN-O-MAN!

Friday night was a slugfest out there!

Check your teams hit level. If you don't have something in the double digits for Friday, you need to seriously consider your roster. It was a fireworks rally out there on the sticks across the league.

My monster lineup is finally kicking into gear. I got bombs tonight from Pujols, Fielder, Hardy, Cabrera and Phillips. Vlad chipped in with a pair of RBI's, but failed to go deep. Slacker. ;)

Taco John
05-26-2007, 02:44 AM
My opponent is sitting on an 0.69 ERA for the week.

Check this out:

B. Penny - 7.0 IP 6H 0R 0.00 ERA
C. Gaudin - 7.1 IP 5H 0R 0.00 ERA
C. Wang - 6.1 IP 7H 2R 2.84 ERA
J. Nathan - 3.0 IP 4H 0R 2SV 0.00 ERA
C. Ray - 2.0 0H 0R 1SV 0.00 ERA
B. Fuentes - 3.0 IP 3H 0R 3SV 0.00 ERA
B. Jenks - 2.0 IP 2H 0R 1SV 0.00 ERA

Combined: 30.2 IP 26H 2R 0.59 ERA

I'm afraid my 4.13 isn't going to cut it this week, and his bats are hotter than mine (and I've got some damn hot bats). I'm going to have to get really lucky to keep my 5 win streak alive past Sunday!

Hogan11
05-26-2007, 02:52 AM
I'm still trying to figure out how the deadest lineup in the league managed to score 10 runs....I mean, I know it was the Reds and all, but still...hmmm...

Taco John
05-26-2007, 02:55 AM
It was all over the place like that...

LAA 10
NYY 6

PIT 10
CIN 4

PHI 8
ATL 3

BOS 10
TEX 6

SEA 10
KC 2

HOU 3
ARI 13

MIL 6
SD 8

CHC 8
LAD 9


Lots of hits and runs out there tonight...

Clockwork Orange
05-26-2007, 03:11 AM
I'm just thrilled that someone inexplicably wanted Garrett Atkins and was willing to flip me Robinson Cano for him. Atkins' batting average fell to a season low .221 after his 0-5 tonight.

If I wasn't a Rockies fan with a soft spot for Atkins, I'd have been violently cursing him for a month now.

MechanicalBull
05-26-2007, 08:20 AM
I'm just thrilled that someone inexplicably wanted Garrett Atkins and was willing to flip me Robinson Cano for him. Atkins' batting average fell to a season low .221 after his 0-5 tonight.

If I wasn't a Rockies fan with a soft spot for Atkins, I'd have been violently cursing him for a month now.

Cano is starting to hit now so it looks like it was a good deal.

Clockwork Orange
05-27-2007, 06:48 PM
It's bad enough that most of the Rockies bullpen is a cruel joke, but it's made about a thousand times worse when your manager is completely clueless on how to use them.

I hate you Clint Hurdle. :cuss:

OrangeShadow
05-27-2007, 06:51 PM
ho hum, sox are up 12.5 on the yanks, 11 over the orioles.

Clockwork Orange
05-27-2007, 07:47 PM
Despite their bungling manager, the Rockies complete their first sweep of the Giants in San Francisco ever. It's also the Rockies first 5 game winning streak since 2004.

Rookie Troy Tulowitzki with a Derek Jeter-esque at bat, fouling off pitch after pitch after pitch before finally smacking a single to right to drive in the eventual winning run in the 10th. This kid has shown very nice improvement as the season has progressed, both in the field and at the plate.

Hogan11
05-27-2007, 10:14 PM
My Boys hung 14 on the Reds tonight....true they gave up ten and it is the Reds we're talking about...but my boys are pretty punchless, so it is something to take note of.

SouthStndJunkie
05-27-2007, 10:22 PM
Rox sweep Giants!

News at 11.

Crowpointer
05-28-2007, 07:15 AM
ho hum, sox are up 12.5 on the yanks, 11 over the orioles.

Ahh Shadow you know it is forbidden as a Sox fan to talk about big leads in pennant races (especially in May). I know you weren't even born the year the the Sox blew a 15 game lead (as of Aug 1st !) to the Yankees . Just a friendly reminder from those of us who lived through the year of Bucky f#$ng Dent.

elsid13
05-28-2007, 07:48 AM
Ahh Shadow you know it is forbidden as a Sox fan to talk about big leads in pennant races (especially in May). I know you weren't even born the year the the Sox blew a 15 game lead (as of Aug 1st !) to the Yankees . Just a friendly reminder from those of us who lived through the year of Bucky f#$ng Dent.


That is good point, I still remember my father cursing up a storm when I was 7/8 years old during that season. But I do have confidence in this pitching staff (expect Schilling) to keep Boston in position to compete in the post season. Though I would like either Crisp or Drew to start hitting.

-Slap-
05-28-2007, 09:59 AM
After a false start and a horrible slump, probably caused by a shoulder injury sustained at the end of spring training, Carlos Quentin is starting to hit the ball with the kind of authority I expected. Over the past week, he's batting .375 with 3 homers and 11 RBI and he's scored 5 runs. His splits are totally unbalanced home and away, but that's probably because he's only had one hot streak so far. I'm sure he's on the waiver wire in most roto leagues. The Snakes are wisely taking the pressure off him by batting him seventh right now, but he'll move up the order as his confidence increases. This two run bomb off Oswalt yesterday had to feel pretty good.

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/7360/img10200297xf7.jpg

Ryan Garko has literally forced the Indians to start playing him every day. He's batting .416 over the last two weeks to raise his average on the season to a gaudy .336 mark. He also has 7 bombs, 20 RBI and 21 runs scored. The average figures to stay above .300 all year, as he carried a consistently high average throughout the minors. He's available in almost half of all CBS leagues.

Ryan Braun is a guy who should be claimed in all leagues. He killed the ball in spring training. He killed the ball in AAA. He's walking into a great lineup and a great hitter's park. For a big guy, he likes to steal bases, too.

If you're still hurting at third base and Braun is gone, take a look at Kevin Kouzmanoff. After a horrid April, the Crushin' Russian has batted .321 in May, chipping in 3 homers and 18 RBI.

Alex Gordon is slowly inching his way over the Mendoza line. He probably has the highest ceiling of the three rookie third basemen in the long run and I expect him to be a viable mixed league roto option in the second half.

Broncoman13
05-28-2007, 10:24 AM
Slap, can you please tell me why in the hell the Astros keep Ausmus, Everett, and Biggio around? Okay, maybe not Biggio. He's paid his dues and is deserving of a spot... but leading off is not THAT spot! I was pissed when the Stros traded John Buck as part of the deal for Beltran. Sure defense is very important behind the plate, but when you have a Catcher that is a worse hitter than some pitchers on his own team... you have problems. 6 RBI's and 0 homers. That hurts...bad! John Buck is batting .40 higher and has 8 homers and triple the RBI's. Last but not least, Ausmus' OPS is .646, Buck .936.

MechanicalBull
05-28-2007, 12:39 PM
Jayson Stark's 10 most overrated and underrated ballplayers right now
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=2880887
Overrated
10.Suppan
9. Wickman
8. Sexson
7. Soriano
6. Brian Giles
5. Abreu
4. Juan Pierre
3. Andruw Jones
2. Drew
1. Zito

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=2882388

Underrated
10. Hafner
9. Joe Nathan
8. Youkilis
7. Polanco
6. Crawford
5. Sabathia
4. Peavy
3. Hanley Ramirez
2. Hoffman
1. Oswalt

-Slap-
05-28-2007, 12:50 PM
Jayson Stark's 10 most overrated and underrated ballplayers right now
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=2880887
Overrated
10.Suppan
9. Wickman
8. Sexson
7. Soriano
6. Brian Giles
5. Abreu
4. Juan Pierre
3. Andruw Jones
2. Drew
1. Zito

Who, exactly, is overrating Bob Wickman? I think the general consensus is he sucks.

Abreu is a fine choice. I can't believe the size of the boiler that guy is toting around these days.

Miggy Cabrera, though far from overrated, is also getting fatter every year. It already beginning to affect his defense and he hasn't attempted a stolen base all season.


http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=2882388

Underrated
10. Hafner
9. Joe Nathan
8. Youkilis
7. Polanco
6. Crawford
5. Sabathia
4. Peavy
3. Hanley Ramirez
2. Hoffman
1. Oswalt

I can't quibble with any names on the underrated list, except perhaps Sabathia, who seems to get plenty of ink.

-Slap-
05-28-2007, 01:23 PM
Slap, can you please tell me why in the hell the Astros keep Ausmus, Everett, and Biggio around? Okay, maybe not Biggio. He's paid his dues and is deserving of a spot... but leading off is not THAT spot! I was pissed when the Stros traded John Buck as part of the deal for Beltran. Sure defense is very important behind the plate, but when you have a Catcher that is a worse hitter than some pitchers on his own team... you have problems. 6 RBI's and 0 homers. That hurts...bad! John Buck is batting .40 higher and has 8 homers and triple the RBI's. Last but not least, Ausmus' OPS is .646, Buck .936.

Its incredible the Astros insist on fielding a team with two offensive cyphers in the lineup, but they've been doing it for years now. Believe me, Ausmus and Everett's gloves do not compensate for their utter inability to hit at the major league level. We're not exactly talking about Mark Belanger and Jim Sundberg here.

Bronco LB 59
05-28-2007, 02:22 PM
After a false start and a horrible slump, probably caused by a shoulder injury sustained at the end of spring training, Carlos Quentin is starting to hit the ball with the kind of authority I expected. Over the past week, he's batting .375 with 3 homers and 11 RBI and he's scored 5 runs. His splits are totally unbalanced home and away, but that's probably because he's only had one hot streak so far. I'm sure he's on the waiver wire in most roto leagues. The Snakes are wisely taking the pressure off him by batting him seventh right now, but he'll move up the order as his confidence increases. This two run bomb off Oswalt yesterday had to feel pretty good.

I have been monitoring Quentin closely and finally picked him up to pair him with fellow Baby D-Back Chris Young.

If you're still hurting at third base and Braun is gone, take a look at Kevin Kouzmanoff. After a horrid April, the Crushin' Russian has batted .321 in May, chipping in 3 homers and 18 RBI.

Kouz can flat out rake. He's going to be like Adrian Gonzalez, where Petco Park isn't going to matter, the numbers are going to be there regardless. I am glad Kouz turned it around to stuff it in the face all of his detractors on San Diego sports talk radio.

Bronco LB 59
05-28-2007, 02:23 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=2882388

Underrated
10. Hafner
9. Joe Nathan
8. Youkilis
7. Polanco
6. Crawford
5. Sabathia
4. Peavy
3. Hanley Ramirez
2. Hoffman
1. Oswalt

Carlos Guillen should be on the underrated list.

-Slap-
05-28-2007, 02:43 PM
I have been monitoring Quentin closely and finally picked him up to pair him with fellow Baby D-Back Chris Young.

I wound up dropping him on every team and reacquiring him on most of them. He had some ugly ABs there. Book got around that he liked to swing at the first pitch, so they started practically bouncing it up there. Starting most counts down 0-1, he became defensive and over selective and wound up looking at a lot of called third strikes.

Clockwork Orange
05-28-2007, 05:31 PM
Another fine outing from Jeff Francis today, That's 6 consecutive starts in which he's gone 7 innings or more and he's lowered his once bloated ERA from 6.52 to a respectable 3.93. Barring a 9th inning collapse, he'll see his record evened up at 4-4.

Nice to see the guy rebound after a rough stretch early in the season.

Clockwork Orange
05-28-2007, 05:37 PM
That's the ballgame and the first 6 game win streak for the Rockies since 2002.

Broncoman13
05-28-2007, 05:47 PM
Its incredible the Astros insist on fielding a team with two offensive cyphers in the lineup, but they've been doing it for years now. Believe me, Ausmus and Everett's gloves do not compensate for their utter inability to hit at the major league level. We're not exactly talking about Mark Belanger and Jim Sundberg here.

I know they've been that way for a while but there's no excuse for it! When Ausmus is hitting .250 and has 8-10 homers and 40 RBI's he's atleast serviceable as a #8. Especially when you consider he's been a great defensive catcher and really helped guys like Roy O, Wade Miller, and several of the other young pitchers on the staff. But even his defense has dropped off lately. I realize that everybody can't have a Mauer, Posada, or Varitek but come on! There are probably 30 catchers in the league that are hitting for a higher average than Ausmus. The saddest part is the Stros put so much into the Beltran trade and then couldn't resign him though I admit they did put forth the effort. KC will probably trade Buck though, hopefully to the Astros!

Clockwork Orange
05-28-2007, 06:17 PM
B*nds may not donate items to the Hall of Fame. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2884986)

"I'm not worried about the Hall," the San Francisco slugger said during a recent homer drought. "I take care of me."

Nice show of respect for the game there, but then if he had any respect for the game, he wouldn't have spent the last several years juicing so that he could taint the home run record.

WABronco
05-28-2007, 09:13 PM
Jose Guillen CRUSHES one off Colon, in Anaheim. Ahhhh, beautiful...

TheChamp24
05-28-2007, 09:19 PM
Holy crap, who woke up the Rockies? 6 in a row, WOW!
And seriously, Garret Atkins is starting to really irk me. End of May, and he's still hitting like ****.
I still think the Rocks are about a .500 team, and they are beginning to show that. The bullpen is still scary though because it sucks beyond belief.

And I loved seeing JD Drew #2 on the overrated list. Guy is a solid guy but is nothing for what he's paid and talked about now.

DomCasual
05-28-2007, 09:49 PM
Holy crap, who woke up the Rockies? 6 in a row, WOW!
And seriously, Garret Atkins is starting to really irk me. End of May, and he's still hitting like ****.
I still think the Rocks are about a .500 team, and they are beginning to show that. The bullpen is still scary though because it sucks beyond belief.

And I loved seeing JD Drew #2 on the overrated list. Guy is a solid guy but is nothing for what he's paid and talked about now.

I don't have as much of a problem with Atkins as I do with Hurdle. I can understand and respect sticking with a guy while he's in a slump. But I don't see anything wrong with sitting him a game or two a week, and moving him down in the order. He's just dead weight, sucking the life out of the middle of the order.

Then again, it's hard to complain when they've won six in a row.

Clockwork Orange
05-28-2007, 09:59 PM
I don't have as much of a problem with Atkins as I do with Hurdle. I can understand and respect sticking with a guy while he's in a slump. But I don't see anything wrong with sitting him a game or two a week, and moving him down in the order. He's just dead weight, sucking the life out of the middle of the order.

Then again, it's hard to complain when they've won six in a row.

He's already dropped Atkins in the order twice. He started the season batting 3rd, then was moved to 5th and he recently got dropped to 6th. There's not much else they can do short of benching him.

DomCasual
05-28-2007, 10:57 PM
He's already dropped Atkins in the order twice. He started the season batting 3rd, then was moved to 5th and he recently got dropped to 6th. There's not much else they can do short of benching him.

They have him hitting 5th most nights. I think they'd be much better off moving Hawpe, or even Tulowitzki up into that spot. Looking back over the last week, the last time they had him hitting lower than 5th was last Tuesday against the Diamondbacks. It just sucks because it means teams don't have to throw Holliday good pitches.

I realize I'm preaching to the choir on this, but I have no idea what Clint Hurdle is thinking with some of the stuff he does. I don't believe a great manager makes that much of a difference in baseball. But I think a horrible manager does.

WABronco
05-28-2007, 11:20 PM
Wow, the 2004 Beltre shows up for a night and crushes two 2B's and two HR's.

TheChamp24
05-28-2007, 11:54 PM
They have him hitting 5th most nights. I think they'd be much better off moving Hawpe, or even Tulowitzki up into that spot. Looking back over the last week, the last time they had him hitting lower than 5th was last Tuesday against the Diamondbacks. It just sucks because it means teams don't have to throw Holliday good pitches.

I realize I'm preaching to the choir on this, but I have no idea what Clint Hurdle is thinking with some of the stuff he does. I don't believe a great manager makes that much of a difference in baseball. But I think a horrible manager does.

See, I personally feel Troy is going to be a GREAT #2 guy in the lineup, similar to Jeter in New York. I don't like having him bat 5th at all.
I know Hurdle wants to stick to his R-L-R-L lineup, but its not working because Atkins is stinking up the place. It seems like he likes to try to pull a lot of pitches. I saw move him to #6 and put Hawpe at #5. Maybe think about moving him to #2 in the order so he sees some more good pitches or something. Of course, that didn't necessarily work when he hit ahead of Helton.

Breck Bronc
05-29-2007, 12:27 AM
With the rest of the pitching matchups the Rockies have against St. Louis and then the Reds and Astros coming to town, the Rox might just make baseball fun to watch again in this state for the first time in a while. Knowing the Rockies, though, I wouldn't be surprised to see them follow this out-of-nowhere winning streak by going 3-6 during the rest of this homestand.

Francis and Cook have been dealing lately. Francis got screwed today in the 8th inning by the plate umpire and should have had 8 scoreless innings.

I'd love to see Atkins and Ianetta start hitting, because the rest of the lineup is doing well right now.

OrangeShadow
05-29-2007, 06:52 AM
schill had his best start of the year, and how bout YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUk with an inside the parker

Clockwork Orange
05-29-2007, 04:02 PM
Gary Sheffield, bastion of integrity and true role model, wants to play the role of advisor for the troubled Elijah Dukes. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2885512)

Just wow.

RhymesayersDU
05-29-2007, 04:08 PM
So, went to the game yesterday. Besides being sun burnt to hell (no, my free trucker hat didn't shade me!) it was pretty fun.

The pitcher having a double is always good times.

Go Rox!

MechanicalBull
05-29-2007, 05:22 PM
Gary Sheffield, bastion of integrity and true role model, wants to play the role of advisor for the troubled Elijah Dukes. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2885512)

Just wow.

I would love to hear what Guidance Counselor Sheff tells Dukes. Maybe Sheffield can introduce him to his friend Mr. Bonds and all 3 of them can have a nice chat and give each other advice.

Bronco LB 59
05-29-2007, 07:18 PM
Gary Sheffield, bastion of integrity and true role model, wants to play the role of advisor for the troubled Elijah Dukes. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2885512)

Just wow.

Sheffield is not an admirable human being, but he might be the only guy that can get through to Elijah Dukes.

LOOK AT THE SIMILARITIES!!!

Sheffield knocked up three women by his mid-20s and he self-destructed the 1991 Milwaukee Brewers for his own selfish interests. Dukes has five kids with four women and the Durham Bulls threatened to boycott their games last year if Tampa Bay didn't pull him from Triple-A.

-Slap-
05-29-2007, 07:49 PM
Sheffield wants to counsel him on how to play the race card every time he's criticized.

Hogan11
05-29-2007, 08:14 PM
Up 2-0 over the Padres.....waiting to see how they blow another start for Gorz tonight.

Sassy
05-29-2007, 08:21 PM
Woohoo! Go Pirates!

Hogan11
05-29-2007, 08:30 PM
Woohoo! Go Pirates!

That's good to see :)

The bad news is that I have a feeling the mid innings meltdown is about to commence....:nono:

Hogan11
05-29-2007, 08:50 PM
J Bay!!

Sassy
05-29-2007, 08:55 PM
What happened?

Hogan11
05-29-2007, 08:58 PM
What happened?

He went deep. 3-1 Bucs now and Gorz is still in there Top of the 7th

Sassy
05-29-2007, 09:00 PM
Go Bucs! ;d

Clockwork Orange
05-29-2007, 09:00 PM
Prince Fielder with his NL leading 17th, a moon shot off of John Smoltz.:notworthy

Hogan11
05-29-2007, 09:04 PM
Prince Fielder with his NL leading 17th, a moon shot off of John Smoltz.:notworthy

Capps must've won his appeal because I haven't heard anything about him having to serve that 4 game suspension for plunking that tub of goo since his hearing.

Hogan11
05-29-2007, 09:11 PM
..and speak of the devil himself....Hello Mr. Capps!!

Clockwork Orange
05-29-2007, 09:13 PM
Capps must've won his appeal because I haven't heard anything about him having to serve that 4 game suspension for plunking that tub of goo since his hearing.

http://www.sethspeaks.net/princefielder.jpg

KABOOM!! :strong: !Booya! :yayaya: ^5

-Slap-
05-29-2007, 09:28 PM
http://www.sethspeaks.net/princefielder.jpg

KABOOM!! :strong: !Booya! :yayaya: ^5

This kid is going to make me rich.......:~ohyah!:

http://www.keynews.org/archives/fielder.jpg

Clockwork Orange
05-29-2007, 09:34 PM
This kid is going to make me rich.......:~ohyah!:

http://www.keynews.org/archives/fielder.jpg

You're gonna be drafting him 7 or 8 rounds higher next year than you did this year. :)

-Slap-
05-29-2007, 10:14 PM
You're gonna be drafting him 7 or 8 rounds higher next year than you did this year. :)

He might be coming off the board next year in about the same range Ryan Howard did this year, mid-to-late first round.

Clockwork Orange
05-29-2007, 10:32 PM
He might be coming off the board next year in about the same range Ryan Howard did this year, mid-to-late first round.

I know a guy who did a draft over the weekend (in season drafts/leagues seem kind of cheesy to me, but whatever) and he got Fielder with the 11th pick in a 12 team draft. Interestingly enough, he said that JJ Hardy went 9th.

-Slap-
05-29-2007, 10:37 PM
I know a guy who did a draft over the weekend (in season drafts/leagues seem kind of cheesy to me, but whatever) and he got Fielder with the 11th pick in a 12 team draft. Interestingly enough, he said that JJ Hardy went 9th.

I'm skepical JJ can sustain anything similar to this production all year. I'm strongly considering selling high on him, even more so after reading your post.

Clockwork Orange
05-29-2007, 10:52 PM
I'm skepical JJ can sustain anything similar to this production all year. I'm strongly considering selling high on him, even more so after reading your post.

This is a free yahoo league I'm talking about, mind you, so take it for what it's worth.

Clockwork Orange
05-29-2007, 11:38 PM
The Rockies win their 7th in a row, 8-3 over St. Louis. It's their first 7 game win streak since 1998.

Bronco LB 59
05-30-2007, 02:02 AM
In my keeper league, a manager landed both Prince Fielder and Ryan Zimmerman on the first week of the season for David Wright.

TheChamp24
05-30-2007, 03:32 AM
The Rockies win their 7th in a row, 8-3 over St. Louis. It's their first 7 game win streak since 1998.

This is the first time in the season that everything is clicking for them, the hitting, pitching and fielding. Its great! Hopefully they can stay hot and pull off another good month in June. It'll get rough for them, but hopefully they can manage to still play around .500 ball. Like I've said since spring training, I think this is a .500 team. Getting guys healthy now like Lopez and Matsui helped a lot. Now if Atkins started to get hot with the other guys, that would be something.

broncocalijohn
05-30-2007, 05:46 AM
Capps must've won his appeal because I haven't heard anything about him having to serve that 4 game suspension for plunking that tub of goo since his hearing.

When did Tub of Goo get back in the league? Somebody should contact Letterman now! ( I think some of these totally go over guys under 30)

OrangeShadow
05-30-2007, 06:30 AM
beckett didnt skip a beat, dominant once again!

MechanicalBull
05-30-2007, 06:36 AM
beckett didnt skip a beat, dominant once again!

And when they don't want to put in Papelbon just throw in Okajima and get the same results. The guy has been pretty much lights out except for a couple games.

Hogan11
05-30-2007, 09:43 AM
When did Tub of Goo get back in the league? Somebody should contact Letterman now! ( I think some of these totally go over guys under 30)

Very good....ever since then, I've called any heavy, buffett killer ballplayer a "tub of goo". This Fielder guy is especially irritating to me due to the incident involving Capps and the divisional rivalry with the Brewers...I know the fantasy guys love his fat azz, but since I don't do the fantasy thing...I have no attraction to him.

..and Capps getting out of the bullshat suspension (thus far anyways) is kinda like justice reasserting itself, so all is right with the world on this front. The Brewers are coming back down to Earth BTW and since everyone has a chance in the "Comedy Central" as I've heard it called...I await the next meeting between the teams w/ anticipation.

Clockwork Orange
05-30-2007, 01:45 PM
Fielder is also a hell of a young ballplayer and a lot of fun to watch.

And yes, having him on your roto team does not suck. :~ohyah!:

bendog
05-30-2007, 04:03 PM
Yeah, I cracked up when McCann let Mil get the go ahead with a passed ball between his legs, but then Mil came unglued, which was even funnier. I only saw the beginning of the debacle at the end of my workout.

Hogan11
05-30-2007, 06:32 PM
Fielder is also a hell of a young ballplayer and a lot of fun to watch.

Maybe for you...the Capps thing turned me against him., which is to be expected...I'm a homer and I stick by my Boys.

I'm hopeful they take at least two from the Padres...but I'm not confident with the bottom part of the rotation coming up. Maholm hasn't exactly been setting the world afire as of late (He reminds me more and more of Kip Wells when he was in the Burgh) and Chacon.....well, I just don't believe in that guy.

Clockwork Orange
05-30-2007, 06:48 PM
Maybe for you...the Capps thing turned me against him., which is to be expected...I'm a homer and I stick by my Boys.

Fair enough, to each their own.

MechanicalBull
05-30-2007, 07:47 PM
Prince is a mad man. He is now one hr away from tying the mlb lead with A-Rod and he just turned 23.

Clockwork Orange
05-30-2007, 09:44 PM
Brad Hawpe is in a groove right now. He just hit his 7th bomb in his last 11 games.

SouthStndJunkie
05-30-2007, 10:10 PM
Turn back the clock. The Big Unit pitched a gem tonight.

6 innings of 1 hit ball.

Clockwork Orange
05-30-2007, 10:28 PM
King Felix is getting hammered. He's given up a pair of home runs and the Angels have plated four with only one out in the 1st inning.

Kid just has not been the same since the injury.

Clockwork Orange
05-30-2007, 10:44 PM
Uh oh, A-Rod's done it again.

He yelled something at the Jays 3rd baseman as the ball was in the air, causing him to back off and the ball fell in for a hit. The Blue Jays were furious (the home plate umpire was caught on live television telling the Jays catcher to "shut the **** up and catch") and did plenty of chirping at A-Rod before the game was resumed.

I've never seen that happen in a game before (Willie Mays Hayes did it in Major League 2), but for all I know, it's something that happens all the time. I guess not, though, as the Blue Jays were livid about it.

WABronco
05-30-2007, 11:11 PM
King Felix is getting hammered. He's given up a pair of home runs and the Angels have plated four with only one out in the 1st inning.

Kid just has not been the same since the injury.

Nahhhh, he's just toying with everyone. One rusty start, one good start, one great start, and then tonight. Just make sure you don't trade him for Chone Figgins, or whatever you got him for...heh.

His stuff looks great. He got behind to a hitter that owns him, with runners on. More power to HGH and Kotchman.

Weaver ain't lookin' to hot either.

Clockwork Orange
05-30-2007, 11:33 PM
Nahhhh, he's just toying with everyone. One rusty start, one good start, one great start, and then tonight. Just make sure you don't trade him for Chone Figgins, or whatever you got him for...heh.

His stuff looks great. He got behind to a hitter that owns him, with runners on. More power to HGH and Kotchman.

Weaver ain't lookin' to hot either.

Spicoli Jr. just got pulled after giving up 5 earned in 4 2/3 innings.

WABronco
05-30-2007, 11:50 PM
Spicoli Jr. just got pulled after giving up 5 earned in 4 2/3 innings.

...and he's right back in the hot water.

Cabrera just owns Felix's fastball.

1st and 2nd, no out.

2 strikes to Vlad.

HOLY ****KK WHAT THE F ARE YOU THINKING?!?!?!?ROFL!

Ahhhh dammit.

Clockwork Orange
05-30-2007, 11:52 PM
Damn. Hernandez hadn't allowed a HR this season, he's allowed three tonight.

The matchup of young star pitchers never materialized tonight, as both have had their respective asses handed to them.

Clockwork Orange
05-31-2007, 12:00 AM
Well, all good things must come to an end. The Rockies 7 game winning streak is history.

Ah well, start a new one tomorrow, boys. :thumbs:

TheChamp24
05-31-2007, 02:19 AM
Uh oh, A-Rod's done it again.

He yelled something at the Jays 3rd baseman as the ball was in the air, causing him to back off and the ball fell in for a hit. The Blue Jays were furious (the home plate umpire was caught on live television telling the Jays catcher to "shut the **** up and catch") and did plenty of chirping at A-Rod before the game was resumed.

I've never seen that happen in a game before (Willie Mays Hayes did it in Major League 2), but for all I know, it's something that happens all the time. I guess not, though, as the Blue Jays were livid about it.

You sure as hell don't grow up doing that. Its bush league really, you just don't do that. I mean, heck, a 3B looking up for the ball has no idea if its ARod or his SS really.

Clockwork Orange
05-31-2007, 02:25 AM
You sure as hell don't grow up doing that. Its bush league really, you just don't do that. I mean, heck, a 3B looking up for the ball has no idea if its ARod or his SS really.

I disagree. I think it's bush league that a third baseman can be scared off of a pop up by a guy yelling "ha" when he passes him.

TheChamp24
05-31-2007, 02:32 AM
I disagree. I think it's bush league that a third baseman can be scared off of a pop up by a guy yelling "ha" when he passes him.

Well, how do you know he just said ha? I think he screamed something other than that. No way a team will react like the Jays did if he just said "ha".

Bronco LB 59
05-31-2007, 02:34 AM
You sure as hell don't grow up doing that. Its bush league really, you just don't do that. I mean, heck, a 3B looking up for the ball has no idea if its ARod or his SS really.

Gamesmanship is good for baseball. The players have too much respect for one another these days. If you don't like what ARod did, spike him high when you get a chance. Don't cry about it.

SoCalBronco
05-31-2007, 02:35 AM
Things are getting pretty bad for my Pale Hose, another blown lead and Ozzie went off again. Come on guys, get it together.

Clockwork Orange
05-31-2007, 02:39 AM
Well, how do you know he just said ha? I think he screamed something other than that. No way a team will react like the Jays did if he just said "ha".

I was watching the game when it happened, they showed a shot of A-Rod as he was passing him. Unless A-Rod is a ventriloquist, all he said was "ha."

Clockwork Orange
05-31-2007, 02:42 AM
Gamesmanship is good for baseball. The players have too much respect for one another these days. If you don't like what ARod did, spike him high when you get a chance. Don't cry about it.

I'm sure there'll be retribution the next time these two teams get together. Hell, I'm surprised Gibbons didn't challenge A-Rod to a fight right there on the field. I guess he just reserves that for his own players.

Though, I don't know if the Jays really want to go down that road since the Yankees have Kyle Farnsworth hanging out in their bullpen.

Bronco LB 59
05-31-2007, 02:43 AM
Things are getting pretty bad for my Pale Hose, another blown lead and Ozzie went off again. Come on guys, get it together.

The White Sox need a spark. Josh Fields is just what they need. Keep Crede at third, but get Fields' bat in the lineup. Give him a shot out in left. He's a good athlete being a former Oklahoma State QB.

24champ
05-31-2007, 02:48 AM
LB52 Dodgers get back to their rightful position in the NL West...

-Slap-
05-31-2007, 02:48 AM
Gamesmanship is good for baseball. The players have too much respect for one another these days. If you don't like what ARod did, spike him high when you get a chance. Don't cry about it.

Thank you. I'm so tired of cretins like Schilling babbling on about the rules of the game. Bring back the bench jockeys, too.

TheChamp24
05-31-2007, 03:51 AM
Gamesmanship is good for baseball. The players have too much respect for one another these days. If you don't like what ARod did, spike him high when you get a chance. Don't cry about it.

I think what ARod did was kinda minor. I think its funny how it happened personally, but also feel that a player shouldn't do that.
Some things I hold more personal, like not "running up the score". For instance, stealing a base when up by 7 in the late innings. Or standing at home plate, flipping your bat or whatever after a homerun. That really irritates me, seeing these guys after hitting one flipping their bats 15 feet and watching it for a couple seconds before starting to round the bases. Just go to first base for crying out loud.

Bronco LB 59
05-31-2007, 08:45 AM
I think what ARod did was kinda minor. I think its funny how it happened personally, but also feel that a player shouldn't do that.
Some things I hold more personal, like not "running up the score". For instance, stealing a base when up by 7 in the late innings. Or standing at home plate, flipping your bat or whatever after a homerun. That really irritates me, seeing these guys after hitting one flipping their bats 15 feet and watching it for a couple seconds before starting to round the bases. Just go to first base for crying out loud.

The reason why hitters are showing up pitchers more and more these days is because today's laxed culture has allowed it to get out of hand.

As for the running up the score, mercy rules are for the weak. Baseball is the one sport where it doesn't matter how much you are down, you can always comeback.

Bronco LB 59
05-31-2007, 08:48 AM
Thank you. I'm so tired of cretins like Schilling babbling on about the rules of the game. Bring back the bench jockeys, too.

Classic Moment in Baseball

2001

Ben Davis breaks up Curt Schilling's perfect game in the eighth inning with a bunt single in a 2-0 game.

Hogan11
05-31-2007, 09:34 AM
I hate to side with the Jays here, but it was a bush league move by A-Rod (if indeed the accusation is true) It's called Professional baseball for a reason and he should act accordingly.

ColoradoBuff
05-31-2007, 10:36 AM
Shiat happens Blue Jays....move along. In other business......go start another winning streak Rockies~!!!

TheChamp24
05-31-2007, 01:34 PM
The reason why hitters are showing up pitchers more and more these days is because today's laxed culture has allowed it to get out of hand.

As for the running up the score, mercy rules are for the weak. Baseball is the one sport where it doesn't matter how much you are down, you can always comeback.

I just think running up the score is a show of weak sportsmanship. In baseball its really hard to define whats "running up the score" though. I remember in Little League, I was on a team that was killing this other team. I had a virtually free pass to 3rd and stole it. Then, a wild pitch, and my instinct was to score, so I took off and scored. I probably should've just stayed at second, but I was in game mode. Their coach even said to my coach "Come on coach, don't you guys have enough runs?" My coach simply replied "I'm not telling them what to do, they are doing it on instinct."

And I remember Ben Davis breaking up the no-no with that bunt single. Schilling and Brenly went beserk after that. I thought it was funny. Hey, the Padres needed baserunners, so why not try it?

broncocalijohn
05-31-2007, 02:54 PM
I love Fantasy sports after dissing it for years. You learn alot about guys that might have slept from ESPN and such, but this thread is about baseball not what geek picked up who or what he is doing for you. Im not geeking it this year but have for the last 5 geeky years. Just make a FB thread to separate those who want to talk about baseball. Now, how about the Angels? Nothing like going to the Ducks game then off to the Angels game across the street by the 4th inning. Sorry TJ, but 3rd place might be your spot this year.

Clockwork Orange
05-31-2007, 02:58 PM
Classic Moment in Baseball

2001

Ben Davis breaks up Curt Schilling's perfect game in the eighth inning with a bunt single in a 2-0 game.

I remember that. Bob Brenly called it "chicken****" afterwards.

Drek
05-31-2007, 04:26 PM
I was watching the game when it happened, they showed a shot of A-Rod as he was passing him. Unless A-Rod is a ventriloquist, all he said was "ha."

For what its worth, both the 3B and SS for Toronto claim he yelled "MINE". I could see it, single syllable words require similar mouth movements.

Personally, I think that kind of stuff is pretty low class. But then, I don't expect much else from Slappy. He intentionally threw an elbow into Pedroia (on the SS side of second) in the last Sox/Yanks series to break up a double play. There are dozens of other similar incidences with him.

And there's a big difference between being a tough, all out wanting to win guy and doing the crap ARod does. Mike Lowell for example isn't the most honest player out there (perpetrated the last two successful hidden ball plays), but he doesn't pull blatantly low class crap like ARod.

I don't think other teams should worry so much about it though. The yankees have some high character guys, namely Jeter, who won't appreciate Rodriguez's antics. Letting them try to handle it internally, it'll do more damage to them than anything else will.

WABronco
05-31-2007, 07:46 PM
Classic Moment in Baseball

2001

Ben Davis breaks up Curt Schilling's perfect game in the eighth inning with a bunt single in a 2-0 game.

HAhahahah yea I loved that **** when it happened! Schilling had a big "WAHHH!" fest too...

elsid13
05-31-2007, 07:50 PM
Still think AROID is a pussy. And was glad when the Boston/Texas deal fell through

Hogan11
05-31-2007, 08:03 PM
I always hated Greg Maddux.....that is all.

Sassy
05-31-2007, 08:30 PM
GO BUCS!
GO HAWKS!

Is it time for BRONCOS yet :(

Hogan11
05-31-2007, 08:35 PM
GO BUCS!
GO HAWKS!

Is it time for BRONCOS yet :(

Not quite.

What's got into Chacon? 6K's already?

MechanicalBull
05-31-2007, 08:55 PM
NEW YORK (AP) -- Jason Giambi (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/5386/;_ylt=Ahm.pm8y4YABNAfZTjX2HKSpu7YF) will be sidelined at least three weeks and possibly far longer after tearing tissue in his left foot while rounding the bases on a home run.

For anyone that cares.

-Slap-
05-31-2007, 09:34 PM
I always hated Greg Maddux.....that is all.

I've never met a more humble athlete.

WABronco
05-31-2007, 10:16 PM
For anyone that cares.

Yea I saw that happen on the highlight reel. He had a noticeable limp as he rounded 1st...

Killericon
05-31-2007, 11:52 PM
I've never met a more humble athlete.

How many athletes HAVE you met?

In any case, A-Rod is a ****ing prick.

Taco John
06-01-2007, 12:18 AM
Sorry TJ, but 3rd place might be your spot this year.


We'll see about that. The Mariners were counted out from the start, and they've been playing their hearts out all season. Even in their losses they seem to put points on the board. They've averaged 8 runs a game over the last seven contests, and have the second best batting average right now in the American league. I'm cautiously optimistic, but still pretty worried about our pitching. I can't believe that we're wasting time rehabilitating guys like Jeff Weaver...

Hogan11
06-01-2007, 10:18 AM
I've never met a more humble athlete.

That maybe, but it's kinda difficult to like a guy that kicks your ass 9 times out of 10 when your team faces him.

Weird game last night, my Boys blew it in the 9th (Sharpless is not long for this level) but overall, I gotta say I'm not very impressed with The Padres at all.

..and after all that, the ultimate underdogs that are the Pirates are still in 2nd place w/ the Dodgers coming in next....go figure.

MechanicalBull
06-01-2007, 05:18 PM
Talk about pretty much giving a player away. Everyone knows that Benitez is a hard thrower and well get you saves but is absolutley horrible when any amount of pressure is on, but the Giants just gave him away to Florida.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2889475
NEW YORK -- The San Francisco Giants (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=sfo) sent Armando Benitez (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5290) back to where he enjoyed his greatest success, trading the struggling closer to the Florida Marlins (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=fla) for reliever Randy Messenger (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7583) on Thursday night.

Benitez is owed $5,066,666 from the remainder of his $7.6 million salary this year, of which Florida will pay $333,333 and San Francisco will pay $4,733,333.

Clockwork Orange
06-01-2007, 06:01 PM
Zambrano isn't just getting lit up anymore, now he's getting into it with teammates while getting lit up.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2890408

CHICAGO -- Chicago Cubs pitcher Carlos Zambrano shoved catcher Michael Barrett as the two were being separated before nearly coming to blows in the dugout during the middle of the fifth inning of Friday's game against Atlanta.

The Braves had just scored five runs in the top of the fifth to increase their lead to 7-1. One run scored on a passed ball and throwing error by Barrett.

Zambrano was seen pointing at his head and yelling at the catcher in the dugout before the bottom half, then shoved him. Neither came out for the sixth.

Scott Eyre relieved Zambrano, who allowed 13 hits. Koyie Hill, who had just been called up from Triple-A Iowa, replaced Barrett.
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Yeah, that's a guy who teams should be lining up to give $100+ million to.

-Slap-
06-01-2007, 06:41 PM
Unreal. The guy has been unadulterated horse**** all season and he's got the nerve to point fingers at his teammate? At his catcher?

Clockwork Orange
06-01-2007, 06:48 PM
Unreal. The guy has been unadulterated horse**** all season and he's got the nerve to point fingers at his teammate? At his catcher?

It's even worse as it turns out it was more than just a dugout scuffle. They fought in the in clubhouse shortly afterwards.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=270601116

Carlos Zambrano and catcher Michael Barrett shoved each other in the dugout, then the pitcher busted his teammate's lip in the clubhouse so badly that Barrett wound up in a hospital.

Have you ever seen someone piss away a contract year quite like this?

Killericon
06-01-2007, 07:02 PM
It's even worse as it turns out it was more than just a dugout scuffle. They fought in the in clubhouse shortly afterwards.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=270601116

Carlos Zambrano and catcher Michael Barrett shoved each other in the dugout, then the pitcher busted his teammate's lip in the clubhouse so badly that Barrett wound up in a hospital.

Have you ever seen someone piss away a contract year quite like this?

The Yankees will still pay him. :P

Taco John
06-01-2007, 07:33 PM
I know the controversey is a day old, but I wanted to chime in on the A-Rod "bush league" stuff to say that I don't have a problem that he did it... I have a problem with him lying about it. He obviously said "mine." For him to go the the media and say "I just said one word, Ha," shows a complete lack of respect for the fans. I'd have no problem if he stood up and said, "you bet your ass I said 'mine.' We needed to find a way to win and that's what I did out there. I found a way to win." But for him to sit there and weasel talk about it makes him look pathetic and shallow. What a coward.

-Slap-
06-01-2007, 07:55 PM
I know the controversey is a day old, but I wanted to chime in on the A-Rod "bush league" stuff to say that I don't have a problem that he did it... I have a problem with him lying about it. He obviously said "mine." For him to go the the media and say "I just said one word, Ha," shows a complete lack of respect for the fans. I'd have no problem if he stood up and said, "you bet your ass I said 'mine.' We needed to find a way to win and that's what I did out there. I found a way to win." But for him to sit there and weasel talk about it makes him look pathetic and shallow. What a coward.

I would have respected that, too. He could have said we were desperate for a win and I did something I knew some people wouldn't like. He could have told them they were going to rip him one way or the other, so who cares? Instead, like you said, he got all mealymouthed again.

Taco John
06-01-2007, 08:03 PM
I would have respected that, too. He could have said we were desperate for a win and I did something I knew some people wouldn't like. He could have told them they were going to rip him one way or the other, so who cares? Instead, like you said, he got all mealymouthed again.


Exactly... I can respect a guy who does something in the gray area who can own up to it.

MechanicalBull
06-01-2007, 09:17 PM
I know the controversey is a day old, but I wanted to chime in on the A-Rod "bush league" stuff to say that I don't have a problem that he did it... I have a problem with him lying about it. He obviously said "mine." For him to go the the media and say "I just said one word, Ha," shows a complete lack of respect for the fans. I'd have no problem if he stood up and said, "you bet your ass I said 'mine.' We needed to find a way to win and that's what I did out there. I found a way to win." But for him to sit there and weasel talk about it makes him look pathetic and shallow. What a coward.

It is being reported on Boston radio today that last night A-Rod went out to eat with his wife and asked for a table by the window so the media can see him and his wife eating dinner together. This guy is turning into one strange fella and nobody seems to know what is going on in his head on and off the field. People here in NY are saying many Yankees from Torre on down want nothing to do with him at all.

Side note: This week I benched Webb who has been iffy so far and the Mets kill the D-Backs and started Fausto Carmona who has pitched good this season. Tonight Carmona gives up 5 runs and Webb is pitching a 2 hit gem to mostly bench players.

Crowpointer
06-02-2007, 08:38 AM
Hey man we may not have won the game last night but we Bostonians still have some of the funniest fans.

elsid13
06-02-2007, 08:41 AM
That was great last night. I wondering if Yo-Yo plunks a yankee today

Edit Schilling pitchs today not Yo-Yo

MechanicalBull
06-02-2007, 09:12 AM
Hey man we may not have won the game last night but we Bostonians still have some of the funniest fans.

I just saw a similar picture in todays New York Newsday but it was of A-Rod staring at the fans. Hilarious!

Clockwork Orange
06-02-2007, 03:31 PM
Whoever had June 2nd in the "When will Lou Piniella have his first on field meltdown as Cubs manager" pool, come collect your prize.

After Angel Pagan was called out stealing 3rd on a close play in the 8th inning, ol' Sweet Lou had one of his trademark hissy fits. It started with a cap toss, followed by kicking dirt on the umpire and finally kicking his previously discarded cap about five times. The only thing he didn't do was pull up 3rd base and toss it into the outfield.

WABronco
06-02-2007, 05:54 PM
Lou's got nothin' on this guy...

http://deadspin.com/sports/minor-league-baseball/all-the-sudden-mike-dantonio-seems-stoic-and-emotionless-265416.php

I love the part when he crawls up to the mound and heaves the rosin bag at the ump like a grenade. He even "pulls the pin".

elsid13
06-03-2007, 09:10 AM
Well it looks like "DL" Drew is on his way to his annual injury -
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2007/06/03/hamstring_keeps_drew_out/

By Gordon Edes, Globe Staff | June 3, 2007
J.D. Drew did not play yesterday against the Yankees because of what manager Terry Francona described as hamstring "tendinitis," though Francona said there was a chance the right fielder would play tonight.
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Francona said the injury had been bothering Drew for a couple of days; Drew said it's been bothering him for "a week and a half, two weeks" and had gotten worse. Drew said he has not had a similar injury in the past.

"This is completely different. It's where the hamstring actually attaches a little below the knee, right here," he said. "So I've got radiating pain when I sprint or do anything like that.

"It's getting really -- I guess, kind of a tendinitis kind of deal -- but really irritated. I thought it would be something that would just kind of go away. I've never really felt anything like that.
"We've done some treatment, things like that, but I've really got to kind of get it calmed down to try to not jeopardize injuring it real bad."


Interesting note the article make it seem that Theo might be bringing up either David Murphy or Jacoby Ellsbury to the Boston. Wonder if this means the Willie Mo Pena era is about to end???

-Slap-
06-03-2007, 09:30 AM
An injury Drew never had before? What are the odds?

File this one under hamstring bull****.

Hogan11
06-03-2007, 11:02 AM
Tracy had enough of Torres and his blown saves....my Man Matt Capps (still unsuspended BTW) was made the official closer as expected and got his first save against LA last night...his first outing in his new role. Hopefully, he'll stop the bleeding enough to help them finally gain some ground.

24champ
06-03-2007, 06:27 PM
Dodgers come back to beat the Pirates! 5-4. Huge series coming up against the Madres.

Hogan11
06-03-2007, 07:00 PM
Dodgers come back to beat the Pirates! 5-4. Huge series coming up against the Madres.

You can thank Mr. Torres for that.....move him to set up man and he still finds a way to blow the game :nono:

The guy's confidence is definitely shaken...how much longer do they let him try to work it out at the determint of the team?

Sassy
06-03-2007, 07:04 PM
Aww...that figures.
The Hawks have lost their last two games also.

Hogan11
06-03-2007, 07:20 PM
What's got me chuckling a bit is the Yankee fans around me here....they're giving me grief about the upcoming series and now that groin pull is scheduled to start against them on Saturday..the floodgates let loose.

Personally, I think he'll be set back a bit farther than that....but if not, cool. Rather face The Rocket ailing than @ 100% anytime.

Paladin
06-03-2007, 07:38 PM
Rockies win over Reds 10 to 9, 10 innings. Atkins gets a hit and drives in Matsui.


Just thought you'd like to know.......

MechanicalBull
06-03-2007, 07:48 PM
What's got me chuckling a bit is the Yankee fans around me here....they're giving me grief about the upcoming series and now that groin pull is scheduled to start against them on Saturday..the floodgates let loose.

Personally, I think he'll be set back a bit farther than that....but if not, cool. Rather face The Rocket ailing than @ 100% anytime.

Clemens is getting hammered over here in NY by the local media. They are saying that he is a great pitcher but not an immortal because he never wants the ball in the big game or in the middle of controversy.

They mentioned that he backed out of his start against the Mets after he beaned Piazza and he could've pitched this weekend against Boston but would rather go against the struggling White Sox and also doesn't want to look bad on national tv games like yesterday on fox or tonight on espn. So now it has been pushed back to the Pirates.

OrangeShadow
06-03-2007, 07:56 PM
Well it looks like "DL" Drew is on his way to his annual injury -
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2007/06/03/hamstring_keeps_drew_out/

By Gordon Edes, Globe Staff | June 3, 2007
J.D. Drew did not play yesterday against the Yankees because of what manager Terry Francona described as hamstring "tendinitis," though Francona said there was a chance the right fielder would play tonight.
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Francona said the injury had been bothering Drew for a couple of days; Drew said it's been bothering him for "a week and a half, two weeks" and had gotten worse. Drew said he has not had a similar injury in the past.

"This is completely different. It's where the hamstring actually attaches a little below the knee, right here," he said. "So I've got radiating pain when I sprint or do anything like that.

"It's getting really -- I guess, kind of a tendinitis kind of deal -- but really irritated. I thought it would be something that would just kind of go away. I've never really felt anything like that.
"We've done some treatment, things like that, but I've really got to kind of get it calmed down to try to not jeopardize injuring it real bad."


Interesting note the article make it seem that Theo might be bringing up either David Murphy or Jacoby Ellsbury to the Boston. Wonder if this means the Willie Mo Pena era is about to end???

I wouldnt mind seeing ellisbury up here at all.

elsid13
06-03-2007, 08:10 PM
I wouldnt mind seeing ellisbury up here at all.


I rather he spend the year at the PawSox. There will be a lot of pressure on him to perform he gets the early call up. I think Murphy who has better power might be the one they bring up. Boy do I miss Nixon

TheChamp24
06-03-2007, 09:59 PM
Atkins had a nice game, although he did have a bloop double there. It seems he is way late with his hands on pitches.
Hawpe continues his tear though.
Nice run by the Rocks here though. Swept the Giants, 2-2 vs. Cards, and a 2-1 series win against the Reds.

Clockwork Orange
06-03-2007, 11:16 PM
Brad Hawpe has really turned his season around. He was struggling just as bad as Atkins through about the first month of the season, but he's managed to push his average up over .300 and has been driving in a nice amount of runs out of the six spot.

Not to be overlooked has been the contributions of Willy Taveras & Kaz Matsui. It's nice having speed at the top of the lineup again.

Clockwork Orange
06-03-2007, 11:21 PM
Guess who's dropping the race card again?

Sheffield says Latin player easier to control than blacks. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2891875)

"I called it years ago. What I called is that you're going to see more black faces, but there ain't no English going to be coming out. … [It's about] being able to tell [Latin players] what to do -- being able to control them," he told the magazine.

"Where I'm from, you can't control us. You might get a guy to do it that way for a while because he wants to benefit, but in the end, he is going to go back to being who he is. And that's a person that you're going to talk to with respect, you're going to talk to like a man.

"These are the things my race demands. So, if you're equally good as this Latin player, guess who's going to get sent home? I know a lot of players that are home now can outplay a lot of these guys."

Breck Bronc
06-03-2007, 11:29 PM
Brad Hawpe has really turned his season around. He was struggling just as bad as Atkins through about the first month of the season, but he's managed to push his average up over .300 and has been driving in a nice amount of runs out of the six spot.

Not to be overlooked has been the contributions of Willy Taveras & Kaz Matsui. It's nice having speed at the top of the lineup again.I went to the game today and Matsui sure was great. He should have had the winning run in the 8th inning and bailed out Fuentes by scoring the real winning run in the 10th. He also turned two nice double plays late in the game. And he also had the biggest hit for the Rockies with his 8th inning 3-run triple.

As good as Matsui was, Holliday was the opposite. He did have two hits, but looked bad in clutch situations and had a costly error in the field. For a guy having such a good season he sure hits into a ton of first pitch groundouts.

In a perfect world Fuentes would be the setup man and Corpas the closer, but Hurdle and most other managers wouldn't demote a guy that's been pretty good this year in Fuentes. I'd like to see Tito traded for a nice haul of prospects and turn the closer job over to Corpas.

Clockwork Orange
06-03-2007, 11:35 PM
In a perfect world Fuentes would be the setup man and Corpas the closer, but Hurdle and most other managers wouldn't demote a guy that's been pretty good this year in Fuentes. I'd like to see Tito traded for a nice haul of prospects and turn the closer job over to Corpas.

Couldn't agree more. I've been hoping that the Rockies would sell high on Fuentes since last year. Teams are always looking for bullpen help near the deadline and Fuentes, being an established closer as well as having experience as a middle reliever, would command a decent return.

TheChamp24
06-03-2007, 11:45 PM
I honestly don't know if Corpas is ready to be te closer though. I think a year of setup then a closer role would be best. And then turning Fuentes into the setup man would be awesome. I don't think he would like that though.
But yeah, I love Taveras now. He can fly down the line! And Holliday, I don't know why, but hits a TON of ground balls, which is why he has grounded into so many double plays. Hasn't been a whole lot clutch at times...

Clockwork Orange
06-03-2007, 11:49 PM
I honestly don't know if Corpas is ready to be te closer though. I think a year of setup then a closer role would be best. And then turning Fuentes into the setup man would be awesome. I don't think he would like that though.
But yeah, I love Taveras now. He can fly down the line! And Holliday, I don't know why, but hits a TON of ground balls, which is why he has grounded into so many double plays. Hasn't been a whole lot clutch at times...

Like Breck mentioned, Holliday has a nasty habit of swinging at the first pitch he sees and pounding it into the ground. I haven't seen a Rockies player hack at so many first pitches since the hayday of Vinny Castilla.

Taveras is so fast that routine ground balls are an adventure for opposing infielders. I think they should make Taveras do push ups like Willie Mays Hayes every time he hits one in the air. ;D

TheChamp24
06-03-2007, 11:57 PM
Like Breck mentioned, Holliday has a nasty habit of swinging at the first pitch he sees and pounding it into the ground. I haven't seen a Rockies player hack at so many first pitches since the hayday of Vinny Castilla.

Taveras is so fast that routine ground balls are an adventure for opposing infielders. I think they should make Taveras do push ups like Willie Mays Hayes every time he hits one in the air. ;D

But man, what about his double he hit earlier? I think this kid could become one of those great leadoff men every team will crave.
Holliday, man, he just is TOO aggressive at times and thinks he has to do something and its so annoying watching him hit groundballs all the time. Even more annoying than Neifi Perez popping up every time. His at bat in the 8th was HORRIBLE.

And holy crap, AROD with an opposite field home run to give the Yanks the lead in the 9th. Off the pope too.

Breck Bronc
06-04-2007, 12:02 AM
Watching Taveras bunt is fun. The defense knows he's bunting and he still usually beats the throw. If only he had a little more plate discipline he'd be one of the best leadoff hitters in baseball. Even without a lot of walks he has a .380 on base percentage, which is acceptable, but if he could get over .400 it would help the team out so much.

Matsui is the same, he's having a decent year so far, but with only 3 walks he could be a lot better. Taveras and Matsui create so much havoc on the bases I don't know why they refuse to get on by walking.

Also, I don't know why Hurdle refuses to bat Hawpe fifth instead of Atkins. The lineup should be:

Taveras
Matsui
Helton
Holliday
Hawpe
Tulowitzki
Atkins
Torrealba/Iannetta
Pitcher

Move Atkins up when he's totally out his slump. Today was a nice start for Garrett, but one good game does not mean he's out of the woods yet. I'd also think about batting Matsui 7th and Tulo 2nd. The catcher spot has been an almost automatic out all season and I'd give Iannetta more playing time to see if he can get into a groove like Tulo did.

Clockwork Orange
06-04-2007, 12:08 AM
Watching Taveras bunt is fun. The defense knows he's bunting and he still usually beats the throw. If only he had a little more plate discipline he'd be one of the best leadoff hitters in baseball. Even without a lot of walks he has a .380 on base percentage, which is acceptable, but if he could get over .400 it would help the team out so much.

Matsui is the same, he's having a decent year so far, but with only 3 walks he could be a lot better. Taveras and Matsui create so much havoc on the bases I don't know why they refuse to get on by walking.

Also, I don't know why Hurdle refuses to bat Hawpe fifth instead of Atkins. The lineup should be:

Taveras
Matsui
Helton
Holliday
Hawpe
Tulowitzki
Atkins
Torrealba/Iannetta
Pitcher

Move Atkins up when he's totally out his slump. Today was a nice start for Garrett, but one good game does not mean he's out of the woods yet. I'd also think about batting Matsui 7th and Tulo 2nd. The catcher spot has been an almost automatic out all season and I'd give Iannetta more playing time to see if he can get into a groove like Tulo did.

Just like he's completely enamoured with having the R/R & L/L matchups with his pitchers, Hurdle is in love with having his lineup go R/L/R/L from the 3-6 spots. Regardless of what might make more sense, he simply refuses to abandon that format.

Don't get me wrong, I like having Kaz at the top of the order, but Tulowitzki was much better from the two spot, so I wouldn't mind seeing the two of them swapped in the order.

Breck Bronc
06-04-2007, 12:15 AM
Man, watching Abreu in right field is tough. The guy has completely lost it.

I wonder what infraction Arod managed while hitting that game winning home run off Papelbon? I bet he farted near Lowell while rounding third. That will be the next controversy in the tabloids.

WABronco
06-04-2007, 12:20 AM
"These are the things my race demands. So, if you're equally good as this Latin player, guess who's going to get sent home? I know a lot of players that are home now can outplay a lot of these guys."[/B]

What, you want them to keep the asshole over the guy who's just as good, but not an asshole?

There are plenty of Latin players that are asshole's too, so...

Sheff, love watchin' you play, but maybe you should stick to playing paddy-cakes with Elijah Dukes.

TheChamp24
06-04-2007, 02:03 AM
Just like he's completely enamoured with having the R/R & L/L matchups with his pitchers, Hurdle is in love with having his lineup go R/L/R/L from the 3-6 spots. Regardless of what might make more sense, he simply refuses to abandon that format.

Don't get me wrong, I like having Kaz at the top of the order, but Tulowitzki was much better from the two spot, so I wouldn't mind seeing the two of them swapped in the order.

I really like Troy, he has impressed me a lot so far. Matsui has the Ichiro syndrome at swinging at everything which hurts really. He has done better than I imagined though.

-Slap-
06-04-2007, 02:19 AM
Guess who's dropping the race card again?

Sheffield says Latin player easier to control than blacks. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2891875)

"I called it years ago. What I called is that you're going to see more black faces, but there ain't no English going to be coming out. … [It's about] being able to tell [Latin players] what to do -- being able to control them," he told the magazine.

"Where I'm from, you can't control us. You might get a guy to do it that way for a while because he wants to benefit, but in the end, he is going to go back to being who he is. And that's a person that you're going to talk to with respect, you're going to talk to like a man.

"These are the things my race demands. So, if you're equally good as this Latin player, guess who's going to get sent home? I know a lot of players that are home now can outplay a lot of these guys."

Hatred has dripped from this fool's mouth since the day he was born.

-Slap-
06-04-2007, 02:23 AM
Man, watching Abreu in right field is tough. The guy has completely lost it.

That's some boiler he's toting around out there.

Clockwork Orange
06-04-2007, 04:54 PM
Rotoworld's June top 250 (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/features/column.aspx?sport=MLB&columnid=2&articleid=28319)

1 Jose Reyes NYM
2 Alex Rodriguez NYY
3 Johan Santana MIN
4 Albert Pujols STL
5 Carl Crawford TB
6 Vladimir Guerrero ANA
7 Chase Utley PHI
8 Jake Peavy SD
9 Ryan Howard PHI
10 Carlos Beltran NYM
11 Miguel Cabrera FLA
12 Mark Teixeira TEX
13 Grady Sizemore CLE
14 David Ortiz BOS
15 Alfonso Soriano CHC
16 Derek Jeter NYY
17 Jimmy Rollins PHI
18 David Wright NYM
19 Roy Oswalt HOU
20 Travis Hafner CLE
21 Matt Holliday COL
22 Manny Ramirez BOS
23 Hanley Ramirez FLA
24 Derrek Lee CHC
25 Brandon Webb ARZ
26 Carlos Lee HOU
27 Roy Halladay TOR
28 Ichiro Suzuki SEA
29 Justin Morneau MIN
30 Miguel Tejada BAL
31 Joe Mauer MIN
32 Lance Berkman HOU
33 Bobby Abreu NYY
34 Francisco Rodriguez ANA
35 Vernon Wells TOR
36 Daisuke Matsuzaka BOS
37 Aramis Ramirez CHC
38 Jason Bay PIT
39 Joe Nathan MIN
40 Victor Martinez CLE
41 John Smoltz ATL
42 Billy Wagner NYM
43 Adam Dunn CIN
44 Jonathan Papelbon BOS
45 Michael Young TEX
46 C.C. Sabathia CLE
47 Juan Pierre LA
48 Prince Fielder MLW
49 Ben Sheets MLW
50 Rafael Furcal LA
51 Jeff Francoeur ATL
52 Andruw Jones ATL
53 Carlos Zambrano CHC
54 Gary Sheffield DET
55 Mariano Rivera NYY
56 Carlos Delgado NYM
57 Felix Hernandez SEA
58 Magglio Ordoñez DET
59 Alex Rios TOR
60 Tim Hudson ATL
61 Brian Roberts BAL
62 Todd Helton COL
63 Josh Beckett BOS
64 Nick Swisher OAK
65 Francisco Cordero MLW
66 Jim Thome CWS
67 John Lackey ANA
68 Jermaine Dye CWS
69 Paul Konerko CWS
70 Dan Haren OAK
71 Curt Schilling BOS
72 Brian McCann ATL
73 J.J. Putz SEA
74 Johnny Damon NYY
75 Jeff Kent LA
76 Matt Cain SF
77 Torii Hunter MIN
78 Jeremy Bonderman DET
79 Bobby Jenks CWS
80 Jorge Posada NYY
81 Cole Hamels PHI
82 Robinson Cano NYY
83 Russell Martin LA
84 Erik Bedard BAL
85 Eric Byrnes ARZ
86 Trevor Hoffman SD
87 Adrian Gonzalez SD
88 Garrett Atkins COL
89 Hideki Matsui NYY
90 Chris Young SD
91 Michael Cuddyer MIN
92 Takashi Saito LA
93 Barry Bonds SF
94 Curtis Granderson DET
95 Ryan Zimmerman WAS
96 Julio Lugo BOS
97 Brandon Phillips CIN
98 Nick Markakis BAL
99 Jered Weaver ANA
100 Dan Uggla FLA
101 Edgar Renteria ATL
102 Barry Zito SF
103 Richie Sexson SEA
104 J.D. Drew BOS
105 Chipper Jones ATL
106 J.J. Hardy MLW
107 A.J. Burnett TOR
108 B.J. Upton TB
109 Chris Ray BAL
110 Ivan Rodriguez DET
111 Bill Hall MLW
112 Delmon Young TB
113 Kevin Youkilis BOS
114 Huston Street OAK
115 Willy Taveras COL
116 Eric Chavez OAK
117 Felipe Lopez WAS
118 Rich Hill CHC
119 Carlos Guillen DET
120 Justin Verlander DET
121 Mike Piazza OAK
122 Brian Fuentes COL
123 Chone Figgins ANA
124 Randy Johnson ARZ
125 Troy Glaus TOR
126 Adrian Beltre SEA
127 Ian Snell PIT
128 Howie Kendrick ANA
129 Jason Isringhausen STL
130 Gary Matthews Jr. ANA
131 Orlando Cabrera ANA
132 Rickie Weeks MLW
133 Bronson Arroyo CIN
134 Chad Cordero WAS
135 Jose Valverde ARZ
136 Scott Kazmir TB
137 Edwin Encarnacion CIN
138 Ian Kinsler TEX
139 Roger Clemens NYY
140 Bob Wickman ATL
141 Scott Rolen STL
142 Orlando Hudson ARZ
143 Todd Jones DET
144 John Maine NYM
145 Kelly Johnson ATL
146 Frank Thomas TOR
147 Corey Patterson BAL
148 Marcus Giles SD
149 Raul Ibanez SEA
150 Bartolo Colon ANA
151 Brad Penny LA
152 Adam LaRoche PIT
153 Al Reyes TB
154 Shane Victorino PHI
155 Ted Lilly CHC
156 Ramon Hernandez BAL
157 Aaron Harang CIN
158 Pat Burrell PHI
159 Dontrelle Willis FLA
160 Jhonny Peralta CLE
161 Ryan Dempster CHC
162 Josh Willingham FLA
163 Rich Harden OAK
164 Nomar Garciaparra LA
165 Joe Borowski CLE
166 Brad Hawpe COL
167 Kenji Johjima SEA
168 Derek Lowe LA
169 Brett Myers PHI
170 Mark Teahen KC
171 Coco Crisp BOS
172 Hunter Pence HOU
173 Andy Pettitte NYY
174 Moises Alou NYM
175 Jason Schmidt LA
176 Ken Griffey Jr. CIN
177 Dan Wheeler HOU
178 Michael Barrett CHC
179 Tim Lincecum SF
180 Eric Gagne TEX
181 Chris Duffy PIT
182 Melvin Mora BAL
183 Jose Contreras CWS
184 Kelvim Escobar ANA
185 Brian Giles SD
186 Octavio Dotel KC
187 Mike Lowell BOS
188 Rocco Baldelli TB
189 Greg Maddux SD
190 Aubrey Huff BAL
191 Jason Varitek BOS
192 Jeremy Accardo TOR
193 Mike Cameron SD
194 Chien-Ming Wang NYY
195 Chuck James ATL
196 Mike Mussina NYY
197 Chad Tracy ARZ
198 Kenny Lofton TEX
199 Matt Capps PIT
200 Jim Edmonds STL
201 A.J. Pierzynski CWS
202 Aaron Rowand PHI
203 David Weathers CIN
204 Daniel Cabrera BAL
205 Tadahito Iguchi CWS
206 Ryan Braun MLW
207 Javier Vazquez CWS
208 Armando Benitez FLA
209 Austin Kearns WAS
210 Tom Glavine NYM
211 Conor Jackson ARZ
212 Mark Buehrle CWS
213 Brad Hennessey SF
214 Chris Capuano MLW
215 Chris Young ARZ
216 Akinori Iwamura TB
217 Freddy Garcia PHI
218 Tom Gordon PHI
219 Chris Duncan STL
220 Casey Blake CLE
221 Gil Meche KC
222 Gerald Laird TEX
223 Oliver Perez NYM
224 Akinori Otsuka TEX
225 Ryan Freel CIN
226 Ryan Garko CLE
227 Paul Lo Duca NYM
228 Kevin Gregg FLA
229 Randy Wolf LA
230 Jacque Jones CHC
231 Tom Gorzelanny PIT
232 Josh Barfield CLE
233 Sammy Sosa TEX
234 Jason Giambi NYY
235 James Shields TB
236 Brad Lidge HOU
237 Craig Monroe DET
238 Johnny Estrada MLW
239 Ty Wigginton TB
240 Orlando Hernandez NYM
241 Ray Durham SF
242 Garret Anderson ANA
243 Aaron Hill TOR
244 Jonathan Broxton LA
245 Noah Lowry SF
246 Geoff Jenkins MLW
247 Alex Gordon KC
248 Stephen Drew ARZ
249 Jose Vidro SEA
250 Scott Olsen FLA

MechanicalBull
06-04-2007, 05:30 PM
Rotoworld's June top 250 (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/features/column.aspx?sport=MLB&columnid=2&articleid=28319)


Maggs all the way down at 58. I know he doesn't steal but he is either leading or top 3 in pretty much every category.

Clockwork Orange
06-04-2007, 09:13 PM
The Cubs are just becoming cartoonish now. Estrada pops one up on the infield, five Cubs gathered around and it managed to drop between all of them right on the mound. Jason Marquis got charged with the error somehow. No word on whether or not he plans to beat up one of his teammates over it.

WABronco
06-05-2007, 01:30 AM
JJ Putz is a GOD! He's a surefire All Star, but it'll probably be the manager's pick rather than fan voting. You know, he's not in Boston or New York, so...

Kenji, too.

MechanicalBull
06-05-2007, 07:02 AM
JJ Putz is a GOD! He's a surefire All Star, but it'll probably be the manager's pick rather than fan voting. You know, he's not in Boston or New York, so...

Kenji, too.

Wait there are teams other than Boston and NY? That can't be cause when I watch espn that's all they talk about. Well they do mention some guy named Ichiro but I don't think they mention what team he plays for just that he is a good ballplayer. ;D

I heard over the weekend that Beltran is the leading vote getter so far for the all star game.

TheChamp24
06-05-2007, 02:44 PM
Wait there are teams other than Boston and NY? That can't be cause when I watch espn that's all they talk about. Well they do mention some guy named Ichiro but I don't think they mention what team he plays for just that he is a good ballplayer. ;D

I heard over the weekend that Beltran is the leading vote getter so far for the all star game.

I wonder why....::)

Clockwork Orange
06-05-2007, 05:31 PM
Brad Hawpe was named N.L. Player of the Week. (http://colorado.rockies.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070604&content_id=2005771&vkey=news_col&fext=.jsp&c_id=col)

The Rockies also DFA'd Steve Finely today, thank goodness.

Clockwork Orange
06-05-2007, 07:25 PM
Excellent read on Kerry Wood, pitching & injuries.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/03/sports/playmagazine/0603play-wood.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&ref=playmagazine

TheChamp24
06-05-2007, 09:11 PM
Brad Hawpe was named N.L. Player of the Week. (http://colorado.rockies.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070604&content_id=2005771&vkey=news_col&fext=.jsp&c_id=col)

The Rockies also DFA'd Steve Finely today, thank goodness.

Too bad its like a month too late. I was willing to give him a month, but after that, peace out. Look at what bringing up Spilboroughs brought to the table. A guy who could actually get a pinch hit!

Hercules Rockefeller
06-05-2007, 11:19 PM
I hate that Frank Azar commercial they always show during the Rockies' games, total ambulance chaser.

"I got in a car wreck, it wasn't that bad. My neck and back were a little sore, so I called Frank. He took care of me, and he got me something extra.

broncocalijohn
06-06-2007, 02:20 AM
JJ Putz is a GOD! He's a surefire All Star, but it'll probably be the manager's pick rather than fan voting. You know, he's not in Boston or New York, so...

Kenji, too.


Here is Putz stats:
W L G GS CG SHO GF SV IP H R ER HR BB SO HBP WP BFP IBB BK ERA *lgERA *ERA+ WHIP

0 0 24 0 0 0 24 14 25.3 11 4 4 3 4 24 2 2 90 0 0 1.42 4.22 297 0.592
0 2 25 0 0 0 24 19 25.7 20 6 6 2 11 35 0 1 105 0 0 2.10 4.26 203 1.208
Bottom is for Frankie Rodriguez

I would say he has a great chance since pitching is decided by the manager and NY isnt having a bullpen kind of year.
My angels will have K Rod, Vlad and John Lackey. Orlando Cabrera should be the starting SS but wont based on fan ballots. Escobar just threw his 2nd CG and is 7 and 3.

broncocalijohn
06-06-2007, 02:41 AM
Too bad its like a month too late. I was willing to give him a month, but after that, peace out. Look at what bringing up Spilboroughs brought to the table. A guy who could actually get a pinch hit!

He was around all year with the Angels when he couldnt do crap. He once bailed out of a pitch vs the Red Sox and I yelled at my TV "take the pitch in the head. That was your only chance of getting on base."

TheChamp24
06-06-2007, 03:13 AM
Gotta give it up for the Rockies, going a whopping 1 for 15 with runners in scoring position. Twice they had leadoff doubles, led to no runs. A leadoff triple by Helton lead to no runs. 3 times the leadoff runner was in scoring position and nothing happened.
Geezus...
Was funny seeing Corpas pitch against Carlos Lee, and Lee's reaction. Seriously, wtf Carlos?

Bronco LB 59
06-06-2007, 05:18 AM
-Slap-

I recall you were quite fond of Victor Diaz before the season started? Are your teams loaded with this guy?

Hogan11
06-06-2007, 09:38 AM
Meanwhile, In Pirateland, Torres looks to be turning himself around. None too soon either, since Capps is finally having his hearing with MLB and they'll no doubt screw him.

Say what you will about the Bucs, but if this team ever starts firing on all cylinders, they'll be quite the formidable opponet....and in the Comedy Central, that's enough.

PatsWin2002
06-06-2007, 01:58 PM
Hogan, what is the primary team on television where you live? Is that Yankees country? Blue Jays??

-Slap-
06-06-2007, 03:07 PM
-Slap-

I recall you were quite fond of Victor Diaz before the season started? Are your teams loaded with this guy?

I liked Victor Diaz and Matt Diaz as back of the roster OF sleepers in split leagues. Got each guy on one club.

broncocalijohn
06-06-2007, 03:49 PM
Meanwhile, In Pirateland, Torres looks to be turning himself around. None too soon either, since Capps is finally having his hearing with MLB and they'll no doubt screw him.

Say what you will about the Bucs, but if this team ever starts firing on all cylinders, they'll be quite the formidable opponet....and in the Comedy Central, that's enough.

I hope they turn it around after they place us in interleague play. I am a Pirates fan if they are playing the As, Mariners or Rangers.

PatsWin2002
06-06-2007, 05:10 PM
June 12, 13, 14 (T, W, Th) the Rockies will be at Fenway. Anyone here coming to Fenway?

MechanicalBull
06-06-2007, 05:34 PM
Prince is now tied with Arod for the HR lead.

24champ
06-06-2007, 07:24 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AvksVoolNCCywlipWNhjhL4RvLYF?slug=tb-schmidt060507&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

SAN DIEGO – For two months, Jason Schmidt's contribution to the Los Angeles Dodgers was 11 innings, many of them not very good.

At 34 years old, he showed up without a fastball but with an obstinate determination to pitch anyway, which, when the results started coming, the Dodgers put up with for exactly three starts.

Schmidt won a game and then lost two pretty spectacularly. An MRI reflected what the radar guns suggested, that Schmidt's shoulder wasn't right, and until Tuesday night at Petco Park the Dodgers' return on $47 million over three years was Mark Hendrickson in the fifth spot and one well-attended rehab start in nearby San Bernardino.

So, after more than seven weeks of rest and shoulder work, and with team executives comforting themselves with "the way the ball left his hand" and two strikeouts of fellow rehabber Garret Anderson in that Class-A start, Schmidt took the ball again last night.

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He pitched like an ace, like the guy they paid handsomely to keep up in the arms-heavy National League West.

Then, so did San Diego Padres right-hander Chris Young pitch like an ace, which was precisely the point of having signed Schmidt.

Schmidt allowed an infield hit in six innings. Young allowed three singles in seven. The game was scoreless until Marcus Giles singled home Russell Branyan with one out in the eighth, and that was that for the Dodgers and Padres.

It is how life as a Dodger restarted for Schmidt, with fastballs that touched 91 mph, then working from there with a changeup that looks different from his fastball again, dallying with a slider and a cutter, knowing there was probably enough fastball if he needed it.

"I suppose a nine-inning shutout and a no-hitter would have been better," he said with a crooked grin.

And that is how life in the NL West restarted, with the Dodgers adding Schmidt to an arms race that in one-third of a season has separated the Dodgers, Padres and Arizona Diamondbacks by a half-game.

Just as Schmidt and Young pitched into the sixth and beyond in San Diego, so did Matt Cain and Randy Johnson pitch well into the Arizona night, separated by a run. Tonight, seven-game winner Randy Wolf and four-time Cy Young Award winner Greg Maddux pitch in San Diego, while in Phoenix six-game winner Matt Morris squares off against Brandon Webb, last season's Cy Young Award winner.

"You're going to see a great arm pretty much every night," Dodgers outfielder Luis Gonzalez said, "and primarily veteran guys who know the hitters. They're not facing guys they don't know."

So it goes, particularly among the presumed top four in the NL West, the Padres, Dodgers, Diamondbacks and Giants, who, respectively, rank first, third, fourth and fifth in the NL in ERA, and each in the top five in starters' ERA.

"I look every day at the starting pitchers, the probables," Padres manager Bud Black said. "Every one that comes up in our division, I go, 'Gosh, he's pretty good.' I know once [Barry] Zito and Johnson came into the division, I knew pitching was going to be much improved."

Other than the odd Juan Pierre and the occasional Barry Bonds, the top NL West teams spent their winters loading and reloading their pitching staffs. Maddux and David Wells in San Diego. Johnson and Doug Davis in Arizona. Zito in San Francisco. Schmidt and Wolf in Los Angeles.

Almost all of them thought hard about a middle-of-the-order bat, then grabbed a starting pitcher instead.

"There weren't many (power hitters) to get," Dodgers general manager Ned Colletti said.

Alfonso Soriano, Carlos Lee and even Bonds were out there. But, Soriano wouldn't come West. And Lee went to six years, too much for the Dodgers, for one, in a league where hitters have to pull their weight defensively. And Bonds, well, he was for the Giants to settle.

"We weren't really in the Soriano sweepstakes," Padres general manager Kevin Towers said. "Bonds, a little early. Carlos Lee, just a little bit. When we saw where things were going, we decided to change direction and hammer pitching."

So they stole Maddux from the seemingly indifferent Dodgers. Had the Dodgers landed Soriano or Lee, Colletti said, he would "probably not" have signed Schmidt. But, ultimately, the offseason sent him toward Schmidt, who three years ago won 18 games.

Over five months beginning in August, the Diamondbacks traded for veterans Livan Hernandez, Johnson and Davis and turned over the lineup to their younger players and prospects. The strategy was to compete with the pitching-thick West, general manager Josh Byrnes said, and defend themselves in other areas.

"At times," he said, "we were asking a little too much from our bullpen."

Late Tuesday night, when one lousy single over 86 pitches wasn't enough to win, Schmidt admitted it was good to feel like himself again, good to throw reasonably hard again.

"I was able to locate a little better, throwing more free and easy," he said. "I didn't have to put as much effort into it as I did before … I didn't feel as restricted out there."

Apparently, then, you can add Schmidt to a summer of Jake Peavy and Brad Penny, to late, hard innings with Young, Noah Lowry and Derek Lowe, to the oncoming Tim Lincecum and Micah Owings, and to September with veterans Wells, Maddux, Johnson and Morris.

It hardly ever stops.

"I think defense is critical and so is timely hitting," Black said. "You can't make mistakes, and when you do get guys on and get guys in scoring position, that's going to be big."

Eventually, somebody will get a hit to win it. But they'll have to pitch to get there.

"I do think it's a great race," Byrnes said. "As much as the three teams at the top get the attention, all five are capable."


The NL West is going to be a tight race between AZ, SD, and LA. After reading this article you would think the NL West teams are SD, AZ, LA, SF. Not one mention of the Rockies haha.

TheChamp24
06-06-2007, 08:23 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AvksVoolNCCywlipWNhjhL4RvLYF?slug=tb-schmidt060507&prov=yhoo&type=lgns




The NL West is going to be a tight race between AZ, SD, and LA. After reading this article you would think the NL West teams are SD, AZ, LA, SF. Not one mention of the Rockies haha.

Kinda funny because the Rocks and Giants have almost the exact same record.

Hotwheelz
06-07-2007, 12:31 AM
Hoffman becomes the first ever pitcher to reach 500 saves.

broncocalijohn
06-07-2007, 02:30 AM
Hoffman becomes the first ever pitcher to reach 500 saves.

And the Padres own the Dodgers. 24, you better hope it doesnt come down to playing them to make the playoffs. I dont know the Dodgers schedule but everytime they play the Padres to end the season, it doesnt come out good. If i was a betting man, I would have made a killing on this series. Great division though.

Pendejo
06-07-2007, 03:58 AM
*Pilfered from a Madres board.

(Edit: Cripes...what an annoying animated .gif.)

-Slap-
06-07-2007, 08:20 AM
Prince is now tied with Arod for the HR lead.

The Prince who would be Home Run King!

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/1639/raredjcakq1.jpg

Hogan11
06-07-2007, 12:24 PM
Hogan, what is the primary team on television where you live? Is that Yankees country? Blue Jays??

Yankees & Mets......I'd estimate 90% of the fans here are fans of those two teams and the breakdown of that would probably be 80% Yankees to 10% Mets.

Surprisingly, we don't get the Jays, Tribe or Pirates....given my location, you'd think that I would, but there must be some sorta exclusionary territorial thing going on or something. The only way we get those broadcasts is if they happen to show up on ESPN or over crackling, staticy AM radio at night.

Hogan11
06-07-2007, 12:26 PM
BTW, Torres with another blown game and Duke.....don't get me started.

Some columnist in the Post Gazette is howling for both to be shipped to the minors or out of town.....and I'm beginning to agree with him.

PatsWin2002
06-07-2007, 12:47 PM
Yankees & Mets......I'd estimate 90% of the fans here are fans of those two teams and the breakdown of that would probably be 80% Yankees to 10% Mets.

Surprisingly, we don't get the Jays, Tribe or Pirates....given my location, you'd think that I would, but there must be some sorta exclusionary territorial thing going on or something. The only way we get those broadcasts is if they happen to show up on ESPN or over crackling, staticy AM radio at night.

Has it always been like that? I know you were an Expos fan.....did you used to get those games regularly?

BTW, Love the avatar. I probably told you at some point that Dick Dale is originally from Quincy, MA and my ex-wife's uncle was the best man at his wedding. Her grandmother was a huge fan and even claimed to have taught him guitar (I've seen old pictures from '58 - '62 or so of DD in her dining room with a guitar).

I saw DD and his son play some dive in Boston about 1992. My ex-wife's grandmother got us all to go. DD is impressive when you can see him up close.

Hogan11
06-07-2007, 12:52 PM
Has it always been like that? I know you were an Expos fan.....did you used to get those games regularly?

BTW, Love the avatar. I probably told you at some point that Dick Dale is originally from Quincy, MA and my ex-wife's uncle was the best man at his wedding. Her grandmother was a huge fan and even claimed to have taught him guitar (I've seen old pictures from '58 - '62 or so of DD in her dining room with a guitar).

I saw DD and his son play some dive in Boston about 1992. My ex-wife's grandmother got us all to go. DD is impressive when you can see him up close.

The only way to experience the King is to get up front and personable. My advice would be to take a kid along...he's a sucker for kids and he'll be hovering around you all show doing guitar tricks for the youngsters....you can get great pics then.

Pretty much.....we'd get the Yankees on WPIX and the Mets on WOR and that'd be it. The only time I ever got the Expos on a semi-regular basis was from the mid-80's till about 1995. My Uncle had a satalite dish and I used to get the game on a bounce from the CBC (or whatever it was on) satalite.....The Canadians never blocked the games coming out of Canada so they were easy to get at the time. The game would be in French, which was funny at first and then got old real quick by the third inning, so we'd mute it.

Clockwork Orange
06-07-2007, 03:10 PM
The Rockies just took a closer 8th overall. I'm at a loss for words on this one.

Bye bye Fuentes.

SpringStein
06-07-2007, 03:50 PM
The Rockies just took a closer 8th overall. I'm at a loss for words on this one.

Bye bye Fuentes.

Not that this will comfort you, but Pittsburgh selected Moskos from Clemson at #4 - and he's likely to be a closer as well.

TheChamp24
06-07-2007, 05:14 PM
The Rockies just took a closer 8th overall. I'm at a loss for words on this one.

Bye bye Fuentes.

Sometimes I wonder if the Rockies know what the draft is all about...
Clearly they don't...

SpringStein
06-07-2007, 05:21 PM
Sometimes I wonder if the Rockies know what the draft is all about...
Clearly they don't...


Actually, the past 5 #1 picks - and I'd say baseball has the worst "hit" record for high draft picks:

'02 - Francis
'03 - Ian Stewart - in AAA
'04 - HS kid from GA, I don't remeber his name - not progressing as should
'05 - Tulo - already in majors, will be a good player for a long time in the bigs
'06 - Greg Reynolds, dominating at AA in his first full minor league year

So I would actually argue that they've done considerably better than average.

SpringStein
06-07-2007, 05:46 PM
Schilling into the 9th with a __ -__.

SpringStein
06-07-2007, 05:49 PM
8 2/3rds of no-no and Stewart gets a single off Schilling.

Beantown Bronco
06-07-2007, 05:51 PM
One pitch and a Lugo blunder away from a perfect game.....

WABronco
06-07-2007, 05:52 PM
Not that this will comfort you, but Pittsburgh selected Moskos from Clemson at #4 - and he's likely to be a closer as well.

At least some think Moskos can be a lefty starter with a good slider...

I was pumped when I saw Colorado take Weathers, because he was on Seattle's wishlist.

I'm pretty happy with who Seattle took. Aumont actually has some projectability and talent, as opposed to the other names they were rumored to be kicking around.

WABronco
06-07-2007, 05:53 PM
8 2/3rds of no-no and Stewart gets a single off Schilling.

Hahahah YEASSSSSSSSSS

Clockwork Orange
06-07-2007, 06:00 PM
Matt Holliday is on an absolute tear. No one is hotter at the plate right now.

OrangeShadow
06-07-2007, 06:04 PM
Hahahah YEASSSSSSSSSS
:cuss:


oh well ill take 8 2/3rds any day

elsid13
06-07-2007, 06:08 PM
Great day of Baseball for me today caught the Nats/Bucs game live, (won on HR in the top of the 9th) followed by the Schilling performance. That sucked, but it ends that losing streak. Really need the bats to start hitting though

SpringStein
06-07-2007, 06:13 PM
Nice comeback by Rocks.

Now on to the road.

TheChamp24
06-07-2007, 06:21 PM
Great comeback for the Rockies. Have had a couple good comebacks, only 2 below .500 at the moment. Some really good wins here for the Rockies. 29-31. No way they will contend for the division though, but a .500 record will do wonders for this young team IMO.

Pendejo
06-07-2007, 06:49 PM
Actually, the past 5 #1 picks - and I'd say baseball has the worst "hit" record for high draft picks:

'02 - Francis
'03 - Ian Stewart - in AAA
'04 - HS kid from GA, I don't remeber his name - not progressing as should
'05 - Tulo - already in majors, will be a good player for a long time in the bigs
'06 - Greg Reynolds, dominating at AA in his first full minor league year

So I would actually argue that they've done considerably better than average.

The Madres drafted Matt Bush #1 overall in '04. He was a short stop/pitcher from San Diego. It was a horrible pick. They didn't take Verlander, or Weaver because they don't like to deal with Boras. Bush couldn't cut it as a short stop in High A Lake Elsinore...so now he's being sent down to be converted to a pitcher.

SpringStein
06-07-2007, 07:00 PM
The kid I was referring to was Nelson, SS, for the Rockies. I've lost track of where he is. At Tulsa?

Pendejo
06-07-2007, 07:12 PM
The kid I was referring to was Nelson, SS, for the Rockies. I've lost track of where he is. At Tulsa?

Whoops! I didn't realize you were talking solely about the Rockies.

Hogan11
06-07-2007, 08:02 PM
Great day of Baseball for me today caught the Nats/Bucs game live, (won on HR in the top of the 9th) followed by the Schilling performance. That sucked, but it ends that losing streak. Really need the bats to start hitting though

J. Bay top of the 9th Opp. field blast :notworthy but the main reason why the Bucs won today? Torres didn't set foot on the field Ha! Mad Matt Capps is still hanging tough with the club as well....MLB hasn't screwed him yet it appears.

Schilling is such an ass that I find myself rooting against him more often than not....good win for your team, but it didn't break my heart any to see him choke on the no no

24champ
06-07-2007, 08:11 PM
And the Padres own the Dodgers. 24, you better hope it doesnt come down to playing them to make the playoffs. I dont know the Dodgers schedule but everytime they play the Padres to end the season, it doesnt come out good. If i was a betting man, I would have made a killing on this series. Great division though.

Um what? I believe the season series between the two teams is 4-4...but that's ok, I bet you had too much Champagne from last night.



#20 - Dodgers select Chris Withrow

http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/m...jsp?mc=withrow

Fastball: Withrow's fastball was in the 89-94 mph range. In the strike zone, he was consistently at 91-93 mph.
FB Movement: Withrow's fastball had bore and sink in the strike zone.
Curve: Withrow threw his curve 74-78 mph. It has the chance to be an above-average pitch.
Changeup: His changeup sat in the 79-81 mph. It's an average offering that he commands well.
Control: Withrow had good command of all of his pitches, particularly the fastball and change.
Poise: He was poised on the mound, though it was just a scrimmage.
Physical Description: Withrow is a very projectable and athletic right-hander, with plenty of room to get bigger and stronger.
Medical Update: Healthy.
Strengths: Good three-pitch mix, excellent mechanics, ability to repeat delivery.
Weaknesses: Withrow pitches for a small private school, so there's a little bit of a big fish-in-a-small pond mentality.
Summary: With athleticism, very clean mechanics and three pitches that have a chance to be above-average, Withrow is very intriguing. Throw in the fact that his father pitched at the University of Texas and in the White Sox organization and the bloodlines are there as well.


39. Los Angeles Dodgers (for Lugo)

James Adkins, LHP, U of Tennessee
Height/Weight: 6-6, 225 | DOB: 11/26/85

Adkins is a big left-hander but throws his fastball at 88-92 mph. His slider is his out-pitch and it flashes plus-plus ability at times. For the most part he relies on command and control to get batters out and he lacks a reliable change-up. Adkins carried a no-hitter into an SEC tournament start but probably won't see similar success in pro ball as a starter with only two pitches. If he doesn't quickly pick up an off-speed pitch, he is likely headed to the bullpen as a set-up man.


Seems like an OK beginning to the draft by LA. But these type of drafts are a different animal than any other sport.

Pendejo
06-08-2007, 01:10 AM
The Madres score 5 runs in the bottom of the 9th to complete the series sweep of the Dahyers.

-Slap-
06-08-2007, 01:13 AM
8 2/3rds of no-no and Stewart gets a single off Schilling.

<extremesarcasm>AWWWWWWWWWWW!<extremesarcasm>

Killericon
06-08-2007, 01:17 AM
<extremesarcasm>AWWWWWWWWWWW!<extremesarcasm>

I was watching PTI and it cut to the game in the 9th, in all sorts of dramatic fashion.

24champ
06-08-2007, 02:14 AM
The Madres score 5 runs in the bottom of the 9th to complete the series sweep of the Dahyers.

Yeah Peavy had an off night and they still managed to win.

Pendejo
06-08-2007, 02:21 AM
Yeah Peavy had an off night and they still managed to win.

The home plate umpire showed that he was a AAA call up. He was terrible.

The Dahyers really need to fix their defense. Coming into tonight they were second in the league in errors...they may be first now.

(Edit: They have committed one fewer error than the Marlins...good for second most in the NL. Fourth in the bigs.)

24champ
06-08-2007, 02:41 AM
The home plate umpire showed that he was a AAA call up. He was terrible.

The Dahyers really need to fix their defense. Coming into tonight they were second in the league in errors...they may be first now.

(Edit: They have committed one fewer error than the Marlins...good for second most in the NL. Fourth in the bigs.)

Yeah I don't disagree there, Pierre has a weak arm and so does Gonzo. Pierre was benched tonight for the first time since 2002. Thank god. I still don't think we have all the pieces together. We are only 2 games back so I am not worried until August or so rolls around.

broncocalijohn
06-08-2007, 03:29 AM
Padres have ruined Dodgers the last few years and maybe even last decade. Check those stats. I believe Padres even knocked out the Dodgers in making the playoffs a few years back.

WABronco
06-08-2007, 05:51 PM
BJ Upton now has OF eligibility in my league...

BOOYA

...and now he has no hamstring.

-Slap-
06-08-2007, 09:09 PM
Prince Fielder cranks #22.

elsid13
06-08-2007, 09:12 PM
What does everyone think of interplay? I think that the NL and AL shouldn't play.

MechanicalBull
06-08-2007, 09:32 PM
What does everyone think of interplay? I think that the NL and AL shouldn't play.

My brother and I were just talking about this a couple weeks ago when the Mets played the Yankees and we both look at the subway series as not really a big deal anymore because they play each other 6 times a year every year so it has no feel anymore despite what the media thinks of it. I think it's ok to a certain extent but I think they play too many games versus the other league. They probably will never get rid of it but I would like to see them trim it down to maybe only 2 series one home and one away.

Fans probably like seeing different teams and faces instead of the same ones from the division, but series like Colorado vs. Baltimore and Washington vs. Minnesota do nothing for me.

Side note: Soriano is 3-3 with 3 hr in top 6th right now.

TheChamp24
06-09-2007, 12:36 AM
Rockies situational hitting is horrible. Holliday stranded 3 runners in scoring position, Helton stranded one as well.

WABronco
06-09-2007, 01:19 AM
SD gets a taste of their own medicine!

Ol' Hiram gets gunned out as the winning run trying to steal 3rd...great throw by Jamie Burke (the best backup catcher in ML history).

Ibanez homers in the 11th.

Now JJ's in and it's done. Yep, it's done.

WOOHOO GO M'S!!!

MechanicalBull
06-09-2007, 03:50 PM
Espn is breaking down every small detail of Roger Clemens start today. He threw 108 pitches and 63% of those were strikes and if anyone cared at all he threw 62 fastballs and 37 splitters.

Hogan this is for you Jun 9 Pittsburgh.Pirates.MLB.com's Jenifer Langosch reports Pittsburgh Pirates RP Salomon Torres (elbow) was placed on the 15-day disabled list with right medial elbow inflammation.

TheChamp24
06-09-2007, 09:30 PM
I will love the day Hurdle is fired...
Go ahead and take out your best left handed hitter in the top of the 9th after he singles. I know you want someone faster, but Carroll likely won't score from first unless its an extra base hit. I just think Hurdle uses his bench too much, and pitchers too much in situations. Of course, thats what we all know already.

Hogan11
06-09-2007, 09:48 PM
Espn is breaking down every small detail of Roger Clemens start today. He threw 108 pitches and 63% of those were strikes and if anyone cared at all he threw 62 fastballs and 37 splitters.

Hogan this is for you

No wonder Torres has been costing them games as of late.

As for this Yankees series....they fought 'em hard last night and today....pfft.
I still say the Pirates are just this side of putting it all together, being successful and very dangerous....at this point however, I'll be happy just avoiding the sweep in NY.

Natedog24
06-09-2007, 11:13 PM
Man the Blue Jay pitchers must feel like they are on a vacation right now the way the dodgers are hitting the ball. The Dodgers were something like 1/11 with RISP the other night, despite somehow pulling out the win ugh!~

SpringStein
06-09-2007, 11:42 PM
Lopez had a quality start this evening in Baltimore, giving up 2 runs in the first and then shutting down the Orioles through 7. Good to see that.

TheChamp24
06-10-2007, 12:07 AM
You know, its really funny how the Orioles announcers were saying how the O's could go on a hot streak playing the Rockies and Nats, when those teams have nearly identical records as the O's.

WABronco
06-10-2007, 01:06 AM
Seattle does it again! SD 'pen does it again!

JOY!

OrangeShadow
06-10-2007, 06:13 AM
im a day late but hey, JD drew remembered how to hit! !Booya!

27atwater
06-10-2007, 07:58 AM
I'm hitting the road in @ 20 minutes to see my Mets in Detroit. It's a 3 hour trip for me. If it weren't for IL play, I would really only get to see NYM once per year...in Pittsburgh.

Clockwork Orange
06-10-2007, 03:58 PM
Ryan Spilborghs is earning himself some more playing time. He's homered twice and has six RBI's on the day. :yayaya:

Clockwork Orange
06-10-2007, 04:11 PM
Uh oh, someone woke up Phat Albert.

http://profantasybaseball.com/images/Albert-Pujols-Pictures/Albert-Pujols-6.jpg

Pitchers beware.