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Spider

02-14-2007, 11:42 PM

ro_50

02-15-2007, 12:13 AM

Great show concept by the "Fair and balanced" channel, PLEASE.

Taco John

02-15-2007, 12:37 AM

Here's another lame clip from their comedy show...

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Spider

02-15-2007, 12:43 AM

been watching clips here and there ..........`fox should just pull the plug..........

spdirty

02-15-2007, 01:43 AM

Sound great! I can't wait! Just set my dvr! yay fox!

Bronco Bob

02-15-2007, 01:52 AM

The Fox Noise channel is one big comedy channel 24/7/365.
Does any rational person take it seriously?

cbs1177

02-15-2007, 01:59 AM

Didn't they have the death fridge on Fox from Pam Death?

spdirty

02-15-2007, 02:00 AM

The Fox Noise channel is one big comedy channel 24/7/365.
Does any rational person take it seriously?

you know what? suck it. They have hot ass anchors in low cut blouses and short skirts and they do high speed chases in the morning. Like the one this morning. Because you hate FoxNews, I bet you missed the high speed chase with the crazy woman in the uhaul truck in Miami. That was some cool shlt. Its like news for guys. But if you are neutered, fine, don't watch it. But don't ridicule those of us who still have our balls attached.

Bronco Bob

02-15-2007, 02:11 AM

It's like news for idiots. A man can have balls AND brains. They aren't mutually
exclusive. Like I said, does any RATIONAL person take the Fox Noise channel
seriously.

Blueflame

02-15-2007, 02:54 AM

It's like news for idiots. A man can have balls AND brains. They aren't mutually
exclusive. Like I said, does any RATIONAL person take the Fox Noise channel
seriously.

I think most people now recognize it as the Republican propaganda channel that it actually is.

Hogan11

02-15-2007, 07:03 AM

When the humorless try their hand at humor, it's usually a disaster.

I do find it odd that such a sourpuss of a channel is making this move though....imagine the likes of Brit Hume laughing at something.....anything.....okay, I can't either.

defenseman

02-15-2007, 09:05 AM

I think most people now recognize it as the Republican propaganda channel that it actually is.

Right back at you "flamer", just as the rest of the world's news networks pander to the liberals in the world, tit for tat, I see nothing wrong with balancing the scales a bit...dman

TailgateNut

02-15-2007, 09:34 AM

you know what? suck it. They have hot ass anchors in low cut blouses and short skirts and they do high speed chases in the morning. Like the one this morning. Because you hate FoxNews, I bet you missed the high speed chase with the crazy woman in the uhaul truck in Miami. That was some cool shlt. Its like news for guys. But if you are neutered, fine, don't watch it. But don't ridicule those of us who still have our balls attached.

News for guys who are not really interested in NEWS!

Bronco Bob

02-15-2007, 10:52 AM

Right back at you "flamer", just as the rest of the world's news networks pander to the liberals in the world, tit for tat, I see nothing wrong with balancing the scales a bit...dman

If you want balanced, check out MSNBC. There they have flaming liberals
like Keith Oldbermann, and real conservatives like ex-Republican congressman
Joe Scarborough and Pat Buchannen. And guys right in the middle like
Chris Matthews. They flame Hillary and Obama just as much as they do Bush.

spdirty

02-15-2007, 11:44 AM

spdirty

02-15-2007, 12:45 PM

here are a couple more clips. First one cracked me up. If it ever happened, peoples heads would explode.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3WCNc7JZ24k

I liked this one cuz it pulled no punches as to where it slanted.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=w3DA5lN1iwI

But if they don't come up with any better bits than that stupid Obama one, I won't watch.

bendog

02-15-2007, 01:05 PM

Scarborough had like a 95% RW voting record! Jesus. He's not as bad as hanpatty, but it took Katrian and Iraq to get him off Bushii's knob.

mathews is just an old whore. He flipped from Carter and O'Neill to being a Reagan democrat back when he still had a spine. Seeing Donohue cancelled over questioning bushii on Iraq broke what little he still had. But, that makes him pretty much middle of the road/vanilla. MSNBC has the vanilla viewers.

None of the talking heads are middle of the road. They all have a viewership that they spew out stuff people want to hear.

Stormontheplains

02-15-2007, 04:31 PM

Love the clip on Obama, it will be required watching for my children.

Spider

02-15-2007, 05:23 PM

Love the clip on Obama, it will be required watching for my children.

Now that scares the hell out of me ............But I guess even the hypocrites with us can reproduce

yavoon

02-15-2007, 05:28 PM

stupid, long live the daily show!

Bronco_Beerslug

02-15-2007, 05:49 PM

The Fox Noise channel is one big comedy channel 24/7/365.
Does any rational person take it seriously?
Only the people that can't admit they are basically nothing more than pure right wing propaganda.

N.O.Bronco

02-15-2007, 06:53 PM

W*GS

02-15-2007, 07:08 PM

Gee, all the OM lefties don't like it... Wadda shocker...

Bronco_Beerslug

02-15-2007, 07:12 PM

Gee, all the OM lefties don't like it... Wadda shocker...That must mean their brand of humor trips your trigger, who would a thunk it?

W*GS

02-15-2007, 07:15 PM

Crushaholic

02-15-2007, 07:23 PM

Bronco_Beerslug

02-15-2007, 07:23 PM

Actually, I don't watch Fox - nor the Daily Show either. I spend most of my TV time watching Discovery, TLC, History Channel, Weather Channel, and sometimes PBS - when I'm not watching a DVD movie or documentary.

TV "news" is a joke - perhaps I'll watch for a few minutes to see what the MSM thinks is the big story o-the-day, but otherwise, it's horrid.So you haven't been able to compare the two different attempts at humor since you haven't seen them but comment on the "OM lefties" commenting on them. I'll laugh at humor no matter where it comes from if it works.

That Weather Channel will leave a guy in stitches.

Blueflame

02-15-2007, 08:19 PM

Right back at you "flamer", just as the rest of the world's news networks pander to the liberals in the world, tit for tat, I see nothing wrong with balancing the scales a bit...dman

The point (as I see it) is that facts (real news... information as opposed to "infotainment") shouldn't have to be spun to support a political viewpoint. A big part of the problem in today's society is that the American corporate media is no longer just presenting information to the public; it's instead influencing public perception via skewed, spun articles with so much bias that they no longer contain more than just a grain of truth... all the while telling us they're "fair and balanced". Viewers who routinely watch this stuff believe they're well-informed "because they watch the news all the time"... but in reality, they're totally clueless about what's really going on in the world. The so-called-liberal-media (referenced in your post as "the rest of the world's news networks") simply does not exist... it's nothing more than a myth.

Spider

02-15-2007, 08:54 PM

Actually, I don't watch Fox - nor the Daily Show either. I spend most of my TV time watching Discovery, TLC, History Channel, Weather Channel, and sometimes PBS - when I'm not watching a DVD movie or documentary.

TV "news" is a joke - perhaps I'll watch for a few minutes to see what the MSM thinks is the big story o-the-day, but otherwise, it's horrid.
and you feel the need to share this ? you really think people give a rats ass if a guy that is a republican one week a Libertarian the next week , care what you watch on TV ?

yavoon

02-15-2007, 08:56 PM

The point (as I see it) is that facts (real news... information as opposed to "infotainment") shouldn't have to be spun to support a political viewpoint. A big part of the problem in today's society is that the American corporate media is no longer just presenting information to the public; it's instead influencing public perception via skewed, spun articles with so much bias that they no longer contain more than just a grain of truth... all the while telling us they're "fair and balanced". Viewers who routinely watch this stuff believe they're well-informed "because they watch the news all the time"... but in reality, they're totally clueless about what's really going on in the world. The so-called-liberal-media (referenced in your post as "the rest of the world's news networks") simply does not exist... it's nothing more than a myth.

http://www.polisci.ucla.edu/faculty/groseclose/Media.Bias.8.htm

The first, second, and third most centrist outlets are respectively Newshour with Jim Lehrer, CNN’s Newsnight with Aaron Brown, and ABC’s Good Morning America. The scores of Newsnight and Good Morning America were not statistically different from the center

The fourth and fifth most centrist outlets are the Drudge Report and Fox News’ Special Report with Brit Hume

The sixth and seventh most centrist outlets are ABC World News Tonight and NBC Nightly News.

Spider

02-15-2007, 09:05 PM

read this http://www.oreilly-sucks.com/foxbias.htm

Blueflame

02-16-2007, 05:33 AM

http://www.polisci.ucla.edu/faculty/groseclose/Media.Bias.8.htm

The first, second, and third most centrist outlets are respectively Newshour with Jim Lehrer, CNN’s Newsnight with Aaron Brown, and ABC’s Good Morning America. The scores of Newsnight and Good Morning America were not statistically different from the center

The fourth and fifth most centrist outlets are the Drudge Report and Fox News’ Special Report with Brit Hume

The sixth and seventh most centrist outlets are ABC World News Tonight and NBC Nightly News.

Damn that "liberal" Wall Street Journal..... Ha!

SPfloppy

02-16-2007, 08:35 AM

Sound great! I can't wait! Just set my dvr! yay fox!

Why not? Lets all be honest and admit that comedians, magazine show hosts, regular TV programs ect. all take jabs most specifically at conservatives and George Bush. Let Fox do this. Don't pan it before it even airs. I have been wrong about shows I've seen perviews for and thought the same "they should cancel now" but come on "let them play let them play". If you don't want to watch than don't. I will. Note this as well I watch Bill Mahr for balance between my left leaning tedencies and Fox news for truth to back up my mostly republican stance. It's just a show guys, let them be for now and if they get canned then bash the show

defenseman

02-16-2007, 08:54 AM

The Fox Noise channel is one big comedy channel 24/7/365.
Does any rational person take it seriously?

Toss in NBC, CNN and rest. How can any rational person take any of them seriously? Everybody has their own flavor of ice cream, ratings is what gets them on the tube, not rationality.......dman

*then again, NBC and CBS appear to be dying on vine. Guess "kati" didn't quite work out the way they planned, and of course NBC's hard left rudder to the bottom of the pool is pretty interesting also.

defenseman

02-16-2007, 08:57 AM

It's like news for idiots. A man can have balls AND brains. They aren't mutually
exclusive. Like I said, does any RATIONAL person take the Fox Noise channel
seriously.

My aren't we the open minded viewer. The EXACT same can be said for the networks that supply only one point of view, ever. You appear quite bigoted on television viewing habits, categorizing people based on what someone watches on the tube? A new low , congrats. Actually, it supports your apparent "irrational" approach to alot of things here, not surprised at all...dman

defenseman

02-16-2007, 08:58 AM

I think most people now recognize it as the Republican propaganda channel that it actually is.

And a majority of the what's left is "lefty" trash? Enjoy your trash...dman

defenseman

02-16-2007, 09:05 AM

If you want balanced, check out MSNBC. There they have flaming liberals
like Keith Oldbermann, and real conservatives like ex-Republican congressman
Joe Scarborough and Pat Buchannen. And guys right in the middle like
Chris Matthews. They flame Hillary and Obama just as much as they do Bush.

Occassionally they do a good job,I'll agree with you. However, Fox thrashes the repubs 1/2 the time, the dems the other. But, if you refuse to occassion, you'd never know it. In any case, consider my takes Fox to your side of the house. I actually watch CNN some of the time, they do have some fellas who bring up some good points occassionally. Just like MSNBC. But, too blanket FOX the way many do here under the conservative umbrella, well you aren't watching enough to know they spread it out more than you realize I'm sure..dman

*I CANNOT believe that Olbermann backed up that fool at NBC and he backed up NBC. HE is a true flaming liberal.

defenseman

02-16-2007, 09:06 AM

If Chris Matthews is in the middle, so is The Leprecaun. Scarborough is good though.

Yep, he brings up some good stuff sometimes. I don't care for his personality most of the time though, it grates me like sand paper to be honest...dman

Spider

02-16-2007, 09:09 AM

And a majority of the what's left is "lefty" trash? Enjoy your trash...dman

Lets think about this for a second ...........
Fox news March 14 th , Shepard Smith reporting ........saddam is planning to use flood water as a weapon by blowing up dams and causing severe flood damage.
didnt see it on any other network .........
March 19th , same ole Sheppard smith , Saddam is planning on starting fire to large amounts of Napalm deep under ground to torch our troops ......
Didnt see it on any other network ........
March 23 ..........The network begins 2 days of unequivocal assertions that a 100-acre facility discovered by coalition forces at An Najaf is a chemical weapons plant. Much is made about the fact that it was booby trapped. A former UN weapons inspector interviewed on camera over the phone downplays the WMD allegations and says that booby-trapping is common. His points are ignored as unequivocal charges of a chemical weapons facility are made on Fox for yet another day (March 24). Only weeks later is it briefly conceded that the chemicals definitively detected at the facility were pesticides. March 24: Oliver North reports that the staff at the French embassy in Baghdad are destroying documents. [How could he know this?]

March 24: Fox and Friends. Anchor Juliet Huddy asks Colonel David hunt why coalition forces don't "blow up" Al Jazeera TV. [The context of the discussion makes it clear that she doesn't know the difference between Al Jazeera and Iraqi TV!!!! Juliet Huddy is a beautiful woman but not very bright.]

March 28: Repeated assertions by Fox News anchors of a red ring around Baghdad in which Republican Guard forces were planning to use chemical weapons on coalition forces. A Fox "Breaking News" flash reports that Iraqi soldiers were seen by coalition forces moving 55-gallon drums almost certainly containing chemical agents.

April 7: Fox, echoing NPR, reports that U.S. forces near Baghdad have discovered a weapons cache of 20 medium-range missiles containing sarin and mustard gas. Initial tests show that the deadly chemicals are not "trace elements."

[In the coming weeks, this embarrassing non-discovery is quickly stomped down the Memory Hole. The missiles were never mentioned again.]

April 9: The crowd around coalition troops toppling the Saddam statue in Baghdad looks strangely sparse despite the network's assertions to the contrary. The perspective is always in close and even then there is no mob storming the statue to hit it with their shoes. Just a handful of people. It's constantly asserted that there's a huge crowd. [I'm perplexed. Where's the huge crowd?!]

April 10: Fox "Breaking News" report of weapons-grade plutonium found at Al Tuwaitha. [In the coming weeks this "discovery" was expeditiously shoved down the Memory Hole as well.]

April 10 (2:59 EDT): A report noting with surprise "how little" the Iraqis were celebrating the coalition invasion. [An interesting contradiction of the allegations of widespread celebration just the day before with the toppling of the Saddam statue.]

April 10 (3 p.m. EDT: Reporter Rick Leventhal) Fox "Breaking News" report: A mobile bioweapons lab is found. Video of a tiny tan truck—about the size of the smallest truck that U-Haul rents – which had its cargo bed and fuel tank shot up with bullets after a looter tried to drive it away. Repeated assertions that this is most definitely a "bioweapons" lab. A graphic sequence is shown of a large Winnebago-type vehicle that is massive compared to the tiny truck found. The irony of this escapes the Fox newscasters and defense "experts."

[This was the first "bioweapons lab" found, not the larger one later found in Mosul. A week later it is briefly conceded that the tiny truck was probably never a bio weapons lab, but promises that real ones will pour forth from the landscape continue. The second phantom lab, a large tractor-trailer truck was discovered around May 2 by Kurdish fighters.]

April 10: To show that France is in bed with Saddam Hussein, Fox begins running old footage of Saddam Hussein's September 1975 trip to Paris to meet with Jacques Chirac and tour a nuclear power plant. [Because Fox strives so hard to be "Fair and Balanced," it's all the more curious how it fails to inform its audience about another trip four years later, this one to Baghdad on December 19, 1983 made by Reagan envoy and then former secretary of defense Donald Rumsfeld (see pic below). The network again, because it's so very "Fair and Balanced," also inexplicably forgot to tell its audience about another trip by Rummy to Baghdad, this time on March 24, 1984, the very same day that a U.N. team found that Iraqi forces had used mustard gas laced with a nerve agent on Iranian soldiers. Rummy obviously wasn't too concerned about the charges of gassing, as in 1986 when he was considering a run for the Republican presidential nomination of 1988, he listed his restoration of diplomatic relations with WMD-using Iraq as one of his proudest achievements.

But all that's an eternity ago for Imperial Conservatives with a 20-second attention span. The Fox newscasters rename Jacques Chirac "Jacques Iraq"(yuk, yuk, yuk – what a side splitter!) and keep going.]

April 7: Repeated ominous footage of barrels buried in a below-ground shed near Karbala. The implication is that the Iraqi landscape is replete with these types of shelters, all of them brimming with evidence of chemical weapons. [These were revealed to be agricultural chemicals as well.]

April 13: Fox Graphic: "Bush: Syria Harboring Chemical Weapons."

[My favorite Fox war commentator is definitely Colonel David Hunt. From my canvassing of all the cable network war coverage, it's hard to find an analyst who is more dogmatic. When coalition forces weren’t greeted with hugs and kisses like he predicted and instead encountered stiff resistance from Iraqi forces in Basra and other places, Davey was all denial. Everything’s going perfect. Rummy is God, hallelujah and praise Dubya! There's not a problem in Iraq that can't be solved by blowing some Iraqi's brains out.]

April 15: Fox analyst Mansoor Ijaz claims that the top 55 Iraqi leaders (along with the whole stash of chemical and biological WMDs they have taken with them) are now living it up in Latakia, Syria. [This is the same 55 that appeared on the deck of cards and is still being captured – far from all living it up in Syria.] On The Fox Report anchor Shepard Smith completely breaks with any pretense of objectivity and openly mocks actor Tim Robbins after playing an excerpt of Robbins' speech to the National Press Club. "Oh, that was so powerful!" Smith mocked. [Impressive objectivity there, Mr. Smith.]

April 16: Fred Barnes on Special Report with Brit Hume blames the looting of the Iraqi National Museum on the museum staff. [Right now there are so many claims and counterclaims about the looting it's hard to tell what happened. In a Fox segment on May 19 a coalition official asserted that 170,000 items were definitely not missing. Of course he refused to give a ballpark estimate of what was missing, which he'd surely have in order to plausibly deny that the original estimate was wrong.]

April 18: Bill O'Reilly opens his show calling Iraqis "ungrateful."

April 21: Bill O'Reilly opens his show calling Iraqi Shiites "ungrateful SOBs" and "fanatics." He concludes that "[we] can't tolerate a fundamentalist state" in Iraq.

[Whoa, O'Reilly. I thought we promised the Iraqis that we were going to implement democracy, not democracy that gives the U.S. the election results it wants. That's not democracy, now, is it? By now it's quite clear that despite the spinning on The No Spin Zone, Iraq is descending into chaos.]

April 22: Lt. Colonel Robert Maginnis states on The O'Reilly Factor that the probability of finding WMDs is a 10 out of 10. [This is the same Robert Maginnis who predicted a double-ring defense of Baghdad in the Washington Times on January 7.] O'Reilly states that if no WMDs are found within a month from today, then that spells big trouble. O'Reilly promises to explore the issue a month later. [Cool, let's hold his feet to the fire on that promise. On an earlier show he said that U.S. credibility would be "shot" if no WMDs were found. ]

May 8: Fox News Military Analyst Major General Paul Vallely states on The O’Reilly Factor that "Middle East agents" have told him that Iraq’s WMDs along with 17 mobile weapons labs (1 of which was captured around May 2) are now buried in the Bakaa Valley in Syria 30 meters underground. He also claims that France helped Iraqi leaders escape to Europe by providing them with travel papers [a charge that even the Pentagon later denies although it's apparent that's where Vallely got his information].

May 11: On The Fox Report with Rick Folbaum it is conceded that the nefarious captured trailer contains not a shred of evidence of WMDs, but Folbaum hints that what’s important is that the trailer could have been used to make them. [Hmmm. I thought we went to war for actual WMDs, not for the ability to make WMDs.]

May 16: Special Report with Brit Hume. Muslims, citing Islam's ban of alcohol, are torching liquor stores and threatening their Christian owners. Under Saddam's secular regime, Christian names were banned and schools were nationalized, but guns and alcohol were freely available; there was tolerance for Iraq's 1 million Catholic and Protestant Christians. In New and Improved Neocon Iraq, there's a letter circulating in Baghdad threatening violence to even the families of women who refuse to wear the traditional Muslim head covering. [The report is yet another interesting and reluctant concession of unintended consequences.]

May 19: O'Reilly discusses a number of inflammatory and bogus charges that were floated in the U.S. media about France (e.g., France supplied Iraq with precision switches used in nuclear weapons, French companies sold spare parts to Iraq for military planes and helicopters, France possessed illegal strains of smallpox, France helped Iraqi leaders escape to Europe by providing them with travel papers). Recall this last charge was made by Major General Paul Vallely on May 8 on The O'Reilly Factor. Again, the Pentagon denies all such charges although much of the Beltway thinks it's obvious that the Pentagon is the source of them. O'Reilly claims that Vallely is only irresponsible if the charges don't turn out to be true. O'Reilly refers to documents that prove that the French government was briefing Saddam right until the war started. [Briefed on what?]

May 20: O'Reilly concedes that the Private Jessica Lynch rescue story could be a fraud, as asserted by the BBC and Los Angeles Times columnist Robert Scheer. "Somebody is lying," he states. He says that if the U.S. military has concocted a fraud, then it will be a terrible scandal but if the BBC and Scheer are wrong, nothing will happen to them. He says he is skeptical of the BBC and Scheer.

To prove his point he brings on no other than Colonel David Hunt. [Geez. Transcript here.] Over and over, Hunt calls the allegations of staged rescue an "assail on the finest soldiers in the world." He claims that the ambulance with Lynch in it that drove up to a Marine checkpoint was never shot at, its drivers demanded $10,000 for information on Jessica, Saddam Hospital was guarded by uniformed Iraqi soldiers and Fedayeen, Jessica's life was saved, and coalition forces didn't trash the hospital. What were his sources for this information? The special ops members on the raid, some of whom are his friends and former colleagues. Over and over Hunt kept saying, "They're the best soldiers in the world, they're the best in the world. Why would they make this up?"

[What followed next was an exchange that's priceless and one of many that goes by far too un-analyzed on Fox every day:]

Hunt: In my opinion it's an assault, an effrontery to the finest men and women in our service, it's an assault on Jessica, it's an assault on these great guys, these great special operations guys ... at a minimum we should no longer buy the L.A. Times, no longer buy the Toronto Free Press, and shut the BBC off. It's a government to government issue...this is calling into question the veracity of the finest soldiers in the world and it's uncalled for, it's absolutely unbelievable."

O'Reilly: If you [Hunt] turn out to be right, nothing will happen to Scheer...he'll just go along blithely printing his lies and living his life and getting paid for it.

[To the Colonel: U.S. special ops soldiers may be the best in the world at what they do, but how does it logically follow from that assessment that particular actions taken during the raid were not excessive and unjustified? How is the BBC's story an assault on Jessica?! What do you mean when you mention a "government to government issue" given that the U.S. government now controls Iraq?! Is the Pentagon the most effective check on its own possible misdeeds? How convenient if you're suggesting that it is. Who is your source that Iraqi doctors were trying to ransom Jessica? Why hasn't this allegation made its way into any other news reports?]

[To O'Reilly: If the raid does turn out to be mostly staged, there'll be no terrible scandal precisely because you, Fox News, and the Pentagon will assert just the opposite and allow yet another embarrassment to slide into the Memory Hole. This is exactly why your demand for accountability from the BBC and L.A. Times is so hollow and hypocritical. Instead of plumbing the U.S. military to investigate itself, why don't you interview Iraqi doctor Harith al-Houssona as the London Times did on April 16 (where the story was first broken, not by the BBC or Robert Scheer) who actually saved Lynch's life instead of the U.S. special ops who could have jeopardized it? The doctor testifies that all Iraqi forces left the day before the raid and that Jessica was delivered by an ambulance that had to return to the hospital because it was shot at by Marines. Why would he lie? You say you automatically trust the Pentagon. Why, when tales of Lynch's heroics in fighting off 500 Iraqi soldiers with one hand while severely wounded and tales that she had amnesia have already been proven bogus?]

May 22 (5:54 a.m. CDT): Richard King, a military doctor, appears on Fox and Friends with promises by the show's hosts that he will verify that the Jessica Lynch rescue wasn't staged. King doesn't prove anything. He states that he arrived at Saddam Hospital the day after the rescue, concedes damage and mal-treatment of doctors at the hospital, and that he "was told " that the hospital was guarded by hostile forces but doesn't specify who told him. [The testimony of the hospital staff contradicts this last hearsay.]

May 22: O'Reilly fails to live up to his promise to make a big stink if no WMDs are found by today. In his Talking Points Memo he wonders why the U.S. has caught such informed Iraqis as Dr. Germ and Ms. Anthrax and has gotten no leads. He states that more time is needed [contradicting what he said more than a month ago, when he said that if no WMDs were found after 2 months U.S. credibility would be "shot" and there would be big trouble]. He ends his Memo saying Bush must candidly address the situation soon.

June 2: [Unfortunately for O'Reilly, Bush isn't candidly explaining anything.] A video clip on Fox and Friends is shown with Bush in Poland claiming that "[w]e found" weapons of mass destruction. His evidence? Two trailers found near Mosul that were supposedly used as mobile bioweapons labs. [A June 7 article by the Times' Judith Miller reports serious doubts by some analysts that the two trailers were used as mobile bioweapons labs. Said one senior analyst about the initial CIA report, it "was a rushed job and looks political." Yes, they violated U.N. resolutions but this is another red herring to suggest WMDs.]

June 4: O'Reilly's Talking Points Memo: [Surreal.] O'Reilly says that the WMD issue has now been politicized [!!]. The war was a just war because there's now great progress between Palestinians and Israelis and that alone made the war worthwhile [?!!]. Also the mass graves and other horrors discovered add to the case for war. The intelligence was either wrong or more time is needed to find the WMDs. [Again contradicting what he said on and before April 22.]

June 11: Fox reports a bus blast in Jerusalem caused by Hamas, killing 15 and wounding at least 100. [Looks like the real reason for war according to O'Reilly

defenseman

02-16-2007, 09:10 AM

Now that scares the hell out of me ............But I guess even the hypocrites with us can reproduce

You've got stewart and the canadian, and now fox is doing this. listened to the fellas righting the show on the radio, bottom line is, it's all ratings. IF the ratings are up, the show will never go away. Ratings driven only. I have no doubt though, most of the material will be conservatively biased. the writers, as much as said so. The rights answer to stewart and the canadian and bill mahr. Wouldn't surprise me if it takes off and stomps the competition..dman

Spider

02-16-2007, 09:11 AM

Occassionally they do a good job,I'll agree with you. However, Fox thrashes the repubs 1/2 the time, the dems the other. But, if you refuse to occassion, you'd never know it. In any case, consider my takes Fox to your side of the house. I actually watch CNN some of the time, they do have some fellas who bring up some good points occassionally. Just like MSNBC. But, too blanket FOX the way many do here under the conservative umbrella, well you aren't watching enough to know they spread it out more than you realize I'm sure..dman

*I CANNOT believe that Olbermann backed up that fool at NBC and he backed up NBC. HE is a true flaming liberal.

it isnt about thrashing , it is about getting the story right , something Fox does not do well

Spider

02-16-2007, 09:15 AM

You've got stewart and the canadian, and now fox is doing this. listened to the fellas righting the show on the radio, bottom line is, it's all ratings. IF the ratings are up, the show will never go away. Ratings driven only. I have no doubt though, most of the material will be conservatively biased. the writers, as much as said so. The rights answer to stewart and the canadian and bill mahr. Wouldn't surprise me if it takes off and stomps the competition..dman

well I called Storm his undies a Hypocrite over the Dixie Chicks , he said Singers shouldnt be political , So I brought up Daryle Worley , Strom then proceeded to tell me I need to paint my truck and polish my wheels ........ I really dont have patience for a loser like that

defenseman

02-16-2007, 09:15 AM

I am all for humor, if somethings funny i laugh, but while the Daily show and Colbert Report weave wittyness, coy truths and the exposing of the hypocricsy and lies in the media and politics. this is just dem bashing and not in a funny way at all.

Truth hurts? Don't worry, it will get worse for ya..dman

*the writers stated on a radio interview that they have gone out of their way to ensure the "material" is very factual and truthful. I'd stop in and have a look if I were you. You may be shown the "proper" way to deliver coy and witty facts and truths. Colbert, while funny, he's an actor. I find him quite entertaining, for "entertainment" value only. Daily, well he's just being daily, don't like him in the least.

defenseman

02-16-2007, 09:18 AM

The point (as I see it) is that facts (real news... information as opposed to "infotainment") shouldn't have to be spun to support a political viewpoint. A big part of the problem in today's society is that the American corporate media is no longer just presenting information to the public; it's instead influencing public perception via skewed, spun articles with so much bias that they no longer contain more than just a grain of truth... all the while telling us they're "fair and balanced". Viewers who routinely watch this stuff believe they're well-informed "because they watch the news all the time"... but in reality, they're totally clueless about what's really going on in the world. The so-called-liberal-media (referenced in your post as "the rest of the world's news networks") simply does not exist... it's nothing more than a myth.

Give it a rest. Nearly ALL the lefty stations do this, ALL the time, pot calling the kettle black. You need another tact here....dman

defenseman

02-16-2007, 09:21 AM

it isnt about thrashing , it is about getting the story right , something Fox does not do well

Hmmm, I'm definitely not seeing what you are seeing.....dman

* I watch some of them(networks) ALL the time. Honestly , most of them have the data pretty close to being correct, the delivery is what makes them at odds with their viewers.

defenseman

02-16-2007, 09:24 AM

well I called Storm his undies a Hypocrite over the Dixie Chicks , he said Singers shouldnt be political , So I brought up Daryle Worley , Strom then proceeded to tell me I need to paint my truck and polish my wheels ........ I really dont have patience for a loser like that

singers have their politics, agreed. To be honest I could care less what ANY entertainers politics are though. And the ones that flaunt it, I NEVER watch and ensure they get NO money out of my pocket. Perform and keep your big mouth shut is my stance on performers....dman

TailgateNut

02-16-2007, 09:25 AM

Let Fox do what they are good at. Spinning for effect! It'll keep the sheep busy with their circle jerk attitude about this country.

I got my first "laugh" this morning as I watched Dubya's speech at the AEI. What a f-ing embarrasment he is to our country.
It's absolutely amazing to me that anyone with an iota of gray matter can continue to listen and believe the crock of **** he shovels each time he steps up to a podium.
I feel sorry for all of you who still support him and his strategies.

Spider

02-16-2007, 09:26 AM

Hmmm, I'm definitely not seeing what you are seeing.....dman

* I watch some of them(networks) ALL the time. Honestly , most of them have the data pretty close to being correct, the delivery is what makes them at odds with their viewers.
of course you dont , you dont see fox news for what it is , Rupert Murdoch admitted he , spun news to make the iraqi war favorable, but he said he has been critical of the execution of the war ....... tit for tat doesnt cancel anything out ..........

Spider

02-16-2007, 09:28 AM

singers have their politics, agreed. To be honest I could care less what ANY entertainers politics are though. And the ones that flaunt it, I NEVER watch and ensure they get NO money out of my pocket. Perform and keep your big mouth shut is my stance on performers....dman

but the standard only applies to Dems , Worley is a damn good patriot .....Thats the mentality

TailgateNut

02-16-2007, 09:28 AM

singers have their politics, agreed. To be honest I could care less what ANY entertainers politics are though. And the ones that flaunt it, I NEVER watch and ensure they get NO money out of my pocket. Perform and keep your big mouth shut is my stance on performers....dman

How the hell can a singer "perform while keeping their mouth shut"?

All joking aside. I believe the veterans who fought and died in all of our past wars, did so to ensure the right for everyone to "SPEAK THEIR MIND"! PERIOD!

defenseman

02-16-2007, 09:48 AM

How the hell can a singer "perform while keeping their mouth shut"?

All joking aside. I believe the veterans who fought and died in all of our past wars, did so to ensure the right for everyone to "SPEAK THEIR MIND"! PERIOD!

Entertainers need to "entertain", period. I could care freaking less about their politics , point of view or what their drug of choice is today, let alone if they are currently in or out of rehab. They open their mouth and start spewing rhetoric, I walk away, simple as that..dman

*and I have the right to flip them off when they start politiking. that's my ensured right, wouldn't you agree?

spdirty

02-16-2007, 09:48 AM

Man I just thought of this. Sunday night is Rome, Apprentice, Desperate Houswives, and Amazing Race All Stars premiere. So this show better be good, or I won't be watching. My Sunday night is stressful enough as it is.

Hell Big Love is gonna be on soon too. Man, talk about Sunday night overload.

spdirty

02-16-2007, 09:50 AM

defenseman

02-16-2007, 09:51 AM

Spider

02-16-2007, 09:52 AM

TailgateNut

02-16-2007, 09:54 AM

Entertainers need to "entertain", period. I could care freaking less about their politics , point of view or what their drug of choice is today, let alone if they are currently in or out of rehab. They open their mouth and start spewing rhetoric, I walk away, simple as that..dman

*and I have the right to flip them off when they start politiking. that's my ensured right, wouldn't you agree?

Entertainers can do what ever they want. It may affect their bottom line, but they have a choice, just like you have a choice to walk away. BUT you do not have the right TO SHUT THEM UP!

spdirty

02-16-2007, 09:56 AM

Hannity's america and the new comedy show is on sunday night also. Gee, what's a viewer to do?

damnit man. Well, Apprentice does the repeat on Monday night, so that should take a little of the edge off. Haven't ever watched Hannity's America, is it any good?

spdirty

02-16-2007, 10:00 AM

Entertainers can do what ever they want. It may affect their bottom line, but they have a choice, just like you have a choice to walk away. BUT you do not have the right TO SHUT THEM UP!

no kidding? I thought there was a law somewhere that says that if someone annoys us, we can just shut em up. Huh, learn somethin new every day.

Hogan11

02-16-2007, 10:02 AM

Geeze..I just love culture warriors ::)

defenseman

02-16-2007, 10:03 AM

You can't do that. If you don't listen to them, your taking away their freedom of speech!!!;)

They are exercising their freedom of speech, I am exercising mine also. By walking away from the jerk off...dman

defenseman

02-16-2007, 10:04 AM

Geeze..I just love culture warriors ::)

Somebody has to....dman

defenseman

02-16-2007, 10:08 AM

damnit man. Well, Apprentice does the repeat on Monday night, so that should take a little of the edge off. Haven't ever watched Hannity's America, is it any good?

Last week, freaking torched broomhillary. Very enlightning. Though his delivery is over the top sometimes. This sunday, Mr. "global" warming gets his due, in that, apparently they will put on the table what Big Al DIDN'T share with the public in his documentary. And, apparently, he had access to the information. But , conveniently, it didn't make it to the big screen. Should be fun..dman

*Little white "lie" by ommission? I wonder if he gave slick willy a call on how to handle this one..

TailgateNut

02-16-2007, 10:09 AM

They are exercising their freedom of speech, I am exercising mine also. By walking away from the jerk off...dman

I'm sure that'll really put them into a tailspin. IMO, if a couple of republicans walk out of a venue, it will improve the atmosphere exponentially!

defenseman

02-16-2007, 10:25 AM

:rofl: Yep, wouldn't want to ruin the "party" now would we...dman

SPfloppy

02-16-2007, 10:30 AM

Stormontheplains

02-16-2007, 10:39 AM

Spider

02-16-2007, 10:49 AM

Spide, I know of worleys one song and could care less. I do however love Lee Greenwood's God Bless The USA. The difference between you and I is I love this country, and believe everything done is in our best interest. We have made mistakes, but the intent was good. As far as fox, look at it this way, they are the only station that talks good about my team. I watch MSNBC praying they will say one good thing, and they never do.

LOL basically you are pissing on my leg telling me it is raining outside

Tom H.

02-16-2007, 10:53 AM

The Fox Noise channel is one big comedy channel 24/7/365.
Does any rational person take it seriously?

I used to watch O'Rilley 'n stuff for the comedy and to see if his head would explode. Lately it has been tiring. Sometimes you can get a good car chase to play in the background as you're washing the dishes.

I do enjoy the Daily show. Good stuff:)

Bronco Bob

02-16-2007, 11:05 AM

My aren't we the open minded viewer. The EXACT same can be said for the networks that supply only one point of view, ever. You appear quite bigoted on television viewing habits, categorizing people based on what someone watches on the tube? A new low , congrats. Actually, it supports your apparent "irrational" approach to alot of things here, not surprised at all...dman

I'm not the one who was boasting that Fox Noise was a news channel for
men and anyone who didn't watch it must have had their balls cut off.

"But if you are neutered, fine, don't watch it. But don't ridicule those of us who still have our balls attached."

Odd you didn't jump on that one. I guess it didn't support your anti-left agenda.

Spider

02-16-2007, 11:10 AM

LOL I love the , I love this country you dont bull ....... Storm if you really loved this country there boy , you would respect her freedoms , for all ........ and how in the hell does support the war in Iraq make some one love this country more then the next guy ? ...........Storm there ole Buddy , you need to think before posting

TailgateNut

02-16-2007, 11:16 AM

[QUOTE=Stormontheplains;1483828] The difference between you and I is I love this countryQUOTE]

Them's fightin' words!

defenseman

02-16-2007, 11:18 AM

I'm not the one who was boasting that Fox Noise was a news channel for
men and anyone who didn't watch it must have had their balls cut off.

"But if you are neutered, fine, don't watch it. But don't ridicule those of us who still have our balls attached."

Odd you didn't jump on that one. I guess it didn't support your anti-left agenda.

1)Who boasted that? I missed it...dman

Spider

02-16-2007, 11:19 AM

[QUOTE=Stormontheplains;1483828] The difference between you and I is I love this countryQUOTE]

Them's fightin' words!
LOL he doesnt know àny better

N.O.Bronco

02-16-2007, 11:26 AM

Spide, I know of worleys one song and could care less. I do however love Lee Greenwood's God Bless The USA. The difference between you and I is I love this country, and believe everything done is in our best interest. We have made mistakes, but the intent was good. As far as fox, look at it this way, they are the only station that talks good about my team. I watch MSNBC praying they will say one good thing, and they never do.

Ha! You need to read up on Leo Strauss. Hes the guy that Neocons and The Republicans today model a lot of their political philosophy off of, Wolfowitz, Cheney, Kristol all big proponents of straussian politics.

Bronco_Beerslug

02-16-2007, 11:31 AM

Give it a rest. Nearly ALL the lefty stations do this, ALL the time, pot calling the kettle black. You need another tact here....dman

Anyone defending the "news practices" (misrepresentations and OUTRIGHT LIES aimed only at right wing America) of FOX is either ignorant and or uneducated.

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VIDEO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZYA2zFsCK8)
Florida Appeals Court Ruling : FOX News Lies are not Illegal (http://www.organicconsumers.org/rbgh/fox-news.cfm)
This latest decision stems from a case filed in 1998 by former Fox journalists Akre and Wilson who charged they were pressured to broadcast what they knew and documented to be lies about an artificial hormone injected into dairy cows, then fired when they refused and threatened to report the matter to the Federal Communications Commission.

Fibbing It Up at Fox (http://tinyurl.com/ys9w9)
Since the Iraq conflict began on March 20, Fox News has been on a mission to legitimize it. One problem for Fox's protracted apologia is that despite promises of evidence of current weapons of mass destruction (WMDs) by the Bush Administration, the evidence has been ambiguous at best. Unfortunately for the network, I’ve been keeping a scratch diary of their reports since the war began.

Keep in mind that in the first three weeks of March, before the bombs started officially dropping, Fox was spreading all sorts of Pentagon propaganda. Iraq had "drones" that it could quickly dispatch to major U.S. metropolitan areas to spread biological agents. Saddam was handing out chemical weapons to the Republican guard to use against coalition troops in a last-ditch red-zone ring around Baghdad. Given what we now know about Iraq, these reports seem to be laughable fantasies, but they were effective in securing public backing for the war. The following is a short chronicle of lies, propagation of lies, exaggerations, distortions, spin, and conjecture presented as fact.

Irresistible Lies
Fox News on White House "Vandalism" (http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1689)
During the White House transition in January, one story proved irresistible to many conservative pundits: Departing Clinton staffers had gone on a wild rampage and "trashed" or "vandalized" the White House, even looting Air Force One. Allegations of the Clinton aides' reckless destruction of public property swept through the media. For some, the story symbolized the difference between a morally compromised Clinton presidency and a more dignified, honorable Bush administration.

An official government investigation, however, reveals one major problem with these stories: They apparently never happened. According to statements from the General Services Administration that were reported on May 17, little if anything out of the ordinary occurred during the transition, and "the condition of the real property was consistent with what we would expect to encounter when tenants vacate office space after an extended occupancy."

Fox News to air deleted, false scenes from ABC's The Path to 9/11 (http://mediamatters.org/items/200701260010)
According to a January 26 Los Angeles Times article, Fox News will rebroadcast "footage from ABC's controversial miniseries 'The Path to 9/11' that was edited out of the docudrama amid criticism that it inaccurately portrayed the Clinton administration's response to the terrorism threat."

As Media Matters for America documented, The Path to 9/11, the two-part miniseries that aired on ABC on September 10-11, 2006, contained inaccurate scenes that maligned the Clinton administration's counterterrorism efforts and bolstered the Bush administration's. The Path to 9/11 drew sharp criticism from former Clinton administration officials, journalists, and conservatives who noted that significant parts of the "docudrama's" content were not supported by the 9-11 Commission's findings

O'Reilly: "I won't say he's (Sen. Barack Obama) "articulate," because some African-Americans hear that word and take offense." Is this an insult? (http://www.foxnews-follies.com/)

The Fox of war (http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2004/03/30/fox_news/index.html)

The Bush administration's case for invading Iraq may have been riddled with unreliable claims, but that didn't stop White House-friendly Fox News from pumping it into America's living rooms.

The list goes on forever..................

Bronco Bob

02-16-2007, 11:35 AM

1)Who boasted that? I missed it...dman

Post #8.

Oddly enough, it is just shortly after post #6 and just before post #9, which you did notice and respond to.

Curious as to why you did miss it.

defenseman

02-16-2007, 12:08 PM

Post #8.

Oddly enough, it is just shortly after post #6 and just before post #9, which you did notice and respond to.

Curious as to why you did miss it.

Don't know. However, don't care for that tactic personally and would recommend ALL avoid that type of rhetoric in the future. There are better ways to get your point across..dman

*I miss s**t sometimes. Read too fast and don't absorb the entire take. Perhaps, I'll slow down a bit.

W*GS

02-16-2007, 02:14 PM

So you haven't been able to compare the two different attempts at humor since you haven't seen them but comment on the "OM lefties" commenting on them.

Well, this Fox "comedy" show does seem to have your collective knickers in twists.

I'll laugh at humor no matter where it comes from if it works.

You must have pretty low standards, because most humor (of the little I've seen) on TV these days, especially the "political" humor, is pretty weak.

Bronco_Beerslug

02-16-2007, 02:39 PM

You must have pretty low standards, because most humor (of the little I've seen) on TV these days, especially the "political" humor, is pretty weak.Maybe I do. I don't watch network TV, I was talking humor in general, if it's funny I'll laugh, I don't care where it comes from.

Watch Porky's sometime. There's more than one scene in that stupid movie that is hilarious. Beula Balbricker in the principal's office explaining how to catch the "prick". Cherry Forever scene in the house in the woods and Coach Brakett trying not to laugh in the gym while "Lassie" is howling in the boys locker room.

Spider

02-16-2007, 02:43 PM

Maybe I do. I don't watch network TV, I was talking humor in general, if it's funny I'll laugh, I don't care where it comes from.

Watch Porky's sometime. There's more than one scene in that stupid movie that is hilarious. Beula Balbricker in the principal's office explaining how to catch the "prick". Cherry Forever scene in the house in the woods and Coach Brakett trying not to laugh in the gym while "Lassie" is howling in the boys locker room.

Porkys = all time Classic .......loved that show

W*GS

02-16-2007, 03:33 PM

Watch Porky's sometime.

Saw it when it came out. For the age range it's aimed at, not too bad - besides, "Michael Hunt" is an old standby...

Bronco_Beerslug

02-16-2007, 03:36 PM

Saw it when it came out. For the age range it's aimed at, not too bad - besides, "Michael Hunt" is an old standby...:) but I think it was "Mike Hunt".

alkemical

02-16-2007, 03:46 PM

For anyone that's watched the daily show for any amount of time - the bashing isn't just left/right.

He's (Stewart) made fun of everybody.

Spider

02-16-2007, 04:34 PM

Saw it when it came out. For the age range it's aimed at, not too bad - besides, "Michael Hunt" is an old standby...

Mike Hunt ............... the hard boiled egg trick in the other porkys movie was funny as hell

spdirty

02-18-2007, 11:09 PM

Bronco Bob

02-19-2007, 12:00 AM

Time for Desperate Houswives.

Thought for sure Orson was the one that was the evil bastard. Oops. :notworthy

defenseman

02-19-2007, 09:20 AM

when they busted on Hillary, the ACLU, and had that global warning guy it was pretty funny, other than that it was stupid. Now I have to wait till tomorrow night to watch Apprentice. Wasn't worth it, doubt Ill watch again.

It was pretty funny seeing Rob and Amber get Team #1 on Amazing Race though. Hope they beat those blonde ditches.

Time for Desperate Houswives.

The take on Obama was good also. Hillary take was great, the ACLU commercials were spot on. I'll continue to watch, the laughs were good enough to come back another time....dman

*Funny enough to keep on and see how far they can take it. They'll adjust the takes to meet the audience.

TailgateNut

02-19-2007, 09:59 AM

They'll adjust the takes to meet the audience.

Sort of like their news broadcasts, catered to the sheep.

defenseman

02-19-2007, 10:02 AM

Sort of like their news broadcasts, catered to the sheep.

They all do it. You know it, I know it...dman

TailgateNut

02-19-2007, 10:16 AM

They all do it. You know it, I know it...dman

True, they all do it, but the right actually believes it to be the truth! Can't discern between reality and wishfull thinking.

defenseman

02-19-2007, 10:19 AM

True, they all do it, but the right actually believes it to be the truth! Can't discern between reality and wishfull thinking.

Different perspective that's all. The exact same argument can be made for the liberal media. So, in short, it's a wash. It's all in who you choose to believe based on the information presented and the delivery method...dman

Bronco_Beerslug

02-19-2007, 10:27 AM

Different perspective that's all. The exact same argument can be made for the liberal media. So, in short, it's a wash. It's all in who you choose to believe based on the information presented and the delivery method...dman
So how do you feel about Fox News suing in court for the right to lie about the news they broadcast, and winning?

defenseman

02-19-2007, 11:04 AM

So how do you feel about Fox News suing in court for the right to lie about the news they broadcast, and winning?

Have heard nothing about this...dman

Bronco_Beerslug

02-19-2007, 11:06 AM

Have heard nothing about this...dman
I don't doubt that, it's not something they would want to champion on their own news station. Every one else definitely reported on it.

defenseman

02-19-2007, 11:09 AM

I don't doubt that, it's not something they would want to champion on their own news station. Every one else definitely reported on it.

I will look into it....dman

Bronco_Beerslug

02-19-2007, 11:28 AM

I will look into it....dman

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In February 2003, a Florida Court of Appeals unanimously agreed with an assertion by FOX News that there is no rule against distorting or falsifying the news in the United States.

Back in December of 1996, Jane Akre and her husband, Steve Wilson, were hired by FOX as a part of the Fox “Investigators” team at WTVT in Tampa Bay, Florida. In 1997 the team began work on a story about bovine growth hormone (BGH), a controversial substance manufactured by Monsanto Corporation. The couple produced a four-part series revealing that there were many health risks related to BGH and that Florida supermarket chains did little to avoid selling milk from cows treated with the hormone, despite assuring customers otherwise.

According to Akre and Wilson, the station was initially very excited about the series. But within a week, Fox executives and their attorneys wanted the reporters to use statements from Monsanto representatives that the reporters knew were false and to make other revisions to the story that were in direct conflict with the facts. Fox editors then tried to force Akre and Wilson to continue to produce the distorted story. When they refused and threatened to report Fox's actions to the FCC, they were both fired.(Project Censored #12 1997)

Akre and Wilson sued the Fox station and on August 18, 2000, a Florida jury unanimously decided that Akre was wrongfully fired by Fox Television when she refused to broadcast (in the jury's words) “a false, distorted or slanted story” about the widespread use of BGH in dairy cows. They further maintained that she deserved protection under Florida's whistle blower law. Akre was awarded a $425,000 settlement. Inexplicably, however, the court decided that Steve Wilson, her partner in the case, was ruled not wronged by the same actions taken by FOX.

FOX appealed the case, and on February 14, 2003 the Florida Second District Court of Appeals unanimously overturned the settlement awarded to Akre. The Court held that Akre’s threat to report the station’s actions to the FCC did not deserve protection under Florida’s whistle blower statute, because Florida’s whistle blower law states that an employer must violate an adopted “law, rule, or regulation." In a stunningly narrow interpretation of FCC rules, the Florida Appeals court claimed that the FCC policy against falsification of the news does not rise to the level of a "law, rule, or regulation," it was simply a "policy." Therefore, it is up to the station whether or not it wants to report honestly.

During their appeal, FOX asserted that there are no written rules against distorting news in the media. They argued that, under the First Amendment, broadcasters have the right to lie or deliberately distort news reports on public airwaves. Fox attorneys did not dispute Akre’s claim that they pressured her to broadcast a false story, they simply maintained that it was their right to do so. After the appeal verdict WTVT general manager Bob Linger commented, “It’s vindication for WTVT, and we’re very pleased… It’s the case we’ve been making for two years. She never had a legal claim.”

http://tinyurl.com/4zj47

defenseman

02-19-2007, 11:38 AM

Bronco_Beerslug

02-19-2007, 11:47 AM

Already read this. Need to read the same story from the other side of the fence, I'm sure it's out there. However, don't like it one bit to be honest. Still looking for the other perspective though..dman
That station is nothing but one big propaganda machine for red state minions who don't want to know the truth.

This sh*t by O'Reilly is typical.

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defenseman

02-19-2007, 11:51 AM

That station is nothing but one big propaganda machine for red state minions who don't want to know the truth.

This sh*t by O'Reilly is typical.

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It works both ways beerslug, it works both ways, there is no denying that..dman

alkemical

02-19-2007, 11:51 AM

That station is nothing but one big propaganda machine for red state minions who don't want to know the truth.

This sh*t by O'Reilly is typical.

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You know...

I have a thread that states how Murdoch wanted to influence public opinion on the war. then murdoch is giving money to hillary, and murdoch has dropped stories due to the Saudi's request (since they are big investors in his products) - Why does it surprise anyone?

Bronco_Beerslug

02-19-2007, 11:54 AM

More BS from Fox and O'Reilly.........

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Bronco_Beerslug

02-19-2007, 11:56 AM

It works both ways beerslug, it works both ways, there is no denying that..dmanThis is always your defacto answer which is BS. NO OTHER mainstream station is even close to spewing the puke that Fox does daily.

Bronco_Beerslug

02-19-2007, 11:58 AM

Fox didn't even acknowledge this BS.....

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Bronco_Beerslug

02-19-2007, 12:04 PM

Olberman punks O'reilly....

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defenseman

02-19-2007, 12:04 PM

I am looking for information, trustworthy I might add, that either supports or disproves his claim. I am finding it difficult to locate. I did note he took credit for a period between 2001-2003, however if I recall he didn't call for a boycott until 2003, ergo, the data does not support the claim. In any case, I will continue to look. I DO NOT purchase anything french myself, as far as I know anyway. Believe they are a really screwed up country myself. All of this though, makes one wonder if there is ANY reliable news, anywhere. It's getting tougher discerning the garbage from the facts in the media as it is, I'm kinda sick of the whole media in general...dman

*Interesting side note, it is getting tougher and tougher to buy "american". Do my best to do so, however, it is getting tougher.

defenseman

02-19-2007, 12:09 PM