View Full Version : Daniel Graham to be tagged
Smith80HOF
02-08-2007, 03:02 PM
Not of a huge concern given we have a great pass catching tight end in scheffler and a blocker in mustard (not to mention an all around solid one in alexander), but thought I would share given the large volume of chatter on this guy.
Dukes
02-08-2007, 03:05 PM
Never really expected to get him this offseason anyways
ludo21
02-08-2007, 03:06 PM
didnt want him anyway.
Franchise tag on Graham tho, that is a hefty price for an average TE....
link btw?
sirhcyennek81
02-08-2007, 03:06 PM
Means New England will use some cap to resign Samuel. Good DB's are hard to come by.
:Broncos:
Master___Pain
02-08-2007, 03:09 PM
Not of a huge concern given we have a great pass catching tight end in scheffler and a blocker in mustard (not to mention an all around solid one in alexander), but thought I would share given the large volume of chatter on this guy.
Odd, I thought they would have tagged Samuel.
watermock
02-08-2007, 03:12 PM
Means New England will use some cap to resign Samuel. Good DB's are hard to come by.
:Broncos:
You think that a franchise tag doesn't count against the cap? Doesn't really matter, they have allready let too many players go and drafted poorly that the will slip back to mediocrity IMHO.
watermock
02-08-2007, 03:13 PM
Means New England will use some cap to resign Samuel. Good DB's are hard to come by.
:Broncos:
You think that a franchise tag doesn't count against the cap? Doesn't really matter, they have allready let too many players go and drafted poorly that the will slip back to mediocrity IMHO.
Tagging Graham is idiotic considering what VD is getting, and Gonzo.
Taco John
02-08-2007, 03:19 PM
Wow. I hope we get a chance to bid on Asante then. I'd love to have him opposite Champ.
/won't happen, but I can dream.
Dudeskey
02-08-2007, 03:21 PM
Odd, I thought they would have tagged Samuel.
They have a ****load of cap room... They'll be able to re-sign Asante w/o breaking a sweat.
watermock
02-08-2007, 03:22 PM
I have evil designs, but am afraid of felony kidnapping and drugging.
watermock
02-08-2007, 03:24 PM
They have a ****load of cap room... They'll be able to re-sign Asante w/o breaking a sweat.
If they had any sense, they would of kept Deion Branch.
Conklin
02-08-2007, 04:22 PM
they got a freakin first for him...branch has YET to reach 1k yards in a season, they got a steal by trading him cuz he was wantin WAAY more than he was worth
sirhcyennek81
02-08-2007, 04:24 PM
You think that a franchise tag doesn't count against the cap? Doesn't really matter, they have allready let too many players go and drafted poorly that the will slip back to mediocrity IMHO.
Tagging Graham is idiotic considering what VD is getting, and Gonzo.
You should really think before you type. No **** a franchise tag counts against the cap, but considering how much it would cost new england to tag samuels, to tag the TE would be considerably cheaper.
:Broncos:
Master___Pain
02-08-2007, 04:37 PM
They have a ****load of cap room... They'll be able to re-sign Asante w/o breaking a sweat.
True, but there's no guarantee he'll resign. Just because the Pats have cap room does not mean they'll use it. They are notoriously cheap.
Inkana7
02-08-2007, 04:38 PM
they got a freakin first for him...branch has YET to reach 1k yards in a season, they got a steal by trading him cuz he was wantin WAAY more than he was worth
Stats don't mean much. Deion is an incredibly talented reciever. He's one of the new breed of smaller, shiftier, yet very tough recievers. Besides, when's the last 1,000 yard reciever Brady has had? Has he had one? I dont think so. He spreads the ball everywhere.
Master___Pain
02-08-2007, 04:42 PM
Besides, when's the last 1,000 yard reciever Brady has had? Has he had one? I dont think so.
Troy Brown 2001, that's it.
freak6
02-08-2007, 04:54 PM
that is a hefty price for an average TE....
lmfao!!! I guess you know more than Bill Belicek!!!
Average...bwaa haa haaa
Way to go Dan!!! I'm so happy for him, and his family I'm friends with.
Rohirrim
02-08-2007, 04:56 PM
Wow. I hope we get a chance to bid on Asante then. I'd love to have him opposite Champ.
/won't happen, but I can dream.
An opposing QB's nightmare. ;D
Rohirrim
02-08-2007, 04:56 PM
Wow. I hope we get a chance to bid on Asante then. I'd love to have him opposite Champ.
/won't happen, but I can dream.
An opposing QB's nightmare. Twenty INTs ;D
Kaylore
02-08-2007, 04:56 PM
That means Samuel's gone. From everything I've heard, he doesn't like it there and wants to leave and I have little doubt that other teams will be more than willing to meet and exceed whatever the penny-pinching Patriots end up scraping him off the table.
Rascal
02-08-2007, 04:59 PM
****.
Hercules Rockefeller
02-08-2007, 05:02 PM
I'm sure Dan likes the guaranteed money, but I'd also been told that Denver was his #1 choice if he hit the market.
Rascal
02-08-2007, 05:04 PM
Trade SA and our fourth for him?
RunSilentRunDeep
02-08-2007, 05:14 PM
Not of a huge concern given we have a great pass catching tight end in scheffler and a blocker in mustard (not to mention an all around solid one in alexander), but thought I would share given the large volume of chatter on this guy.
What's the source for this?
BroncoInferno
02-08-2007, 05:17 PM
This is pretty stupid by NE. They've got Ben Watson and drafted two TEs in last years draft. They are hogging a lot of resources for that one position, which is particularly odd with Samuel also a FA at a thinner position.
brother love
02-08-2007, 05:27 PM
They have a ****load of cap room... They'll be able to re-sign Asante w/o breaking a sweat.
What makes you think they will spend any money?
They didn't last year for Branch.
DBroncos4life
02-08-2007, 07:21 PM
What makes you think they will spend any money?
They didn't last year for Branch.
Maybe it had to do with Branch being over-rated? Just because he was ok with them doesn't mean they should over pay for him. Lots of team should look into doing something like that.
Who really cares. The Pats will find some chump, if Samuel leaves, and that guy will probably have a career year next year. Stupid Pats always seem to have their players over achieve.
orange crusher
02-08-2007, 07:33 PM
I'm not buying that they will tag him. Where did this come from?
OrangeShadow
02-08-2007, 07:33 PM
anyone actually seen a link to this? I just watched FSN sports tonight and they didnt mention a word of it
Crowpointer
02-08-2007, 07:50 PM
anyone actually seen a link to this? I just watched FSN sports tonight and they didnt mention a word of it
I just watched it too and I just checked Pats fans. It is not true. BS from a guy with 22 posts. Belichicks in Hawaii and is not franchising anybody on the first day.
OrangeShadow
02-08-2007, 07:59 PM
FSN is an awesome show. I watch it every night, the guests they have are usually great and tanguay and dickerson are pretty funny.
broncs2bowl
02-08-2007, 08:06 PM
Thank god....now all the Grahm losers can stop their nagging about how we have to get him
Master___Pain
02-08-2007, 08:08 PM
Thank god....now all the Grahm losers can stop their nagging about how we have to get him
Graham losers...lol. I take it you did not read any of the posts above yours.
OrangeShadow
02-08-2007, 08:14 PM
Thank god....now all the Grahm losers can stop their nagging about how we have to get him
yeah who would want one of if not THE best blocking tight end in the game, thats just crazy talk. :loopy:
broncs2bowl
02-08-2007, 08:14 PM
Graham losers...lol. I take it you did not read any of the posts above yours.
I actually did but I decided to post about Grahm instead of wat the post abov e we were talking aboutnotsofast
broncs2bowl
02-08-2007, 08:15 PM
The guy would have just been a waste of money...we have much bigger needs to deal with--in response to Orangeshadow
Crowpointer
02-08-2007, 08:15 PM
FSN is an awesome show. I watch it every night, the guests they have are usually great and tanguay and dickerson are pretty funny.
I know you are not a Pats fan but you have to admit it's pretty funny when Wilfork is on weekly during the season. I agree a great show.
Jens1893
02-08-2007, 08:18 PM
I know you are not a Pats fan but you have to admit it's pretty funny when Wilfork is on weekly during the season. I agree a great show.
You realize that you will not be welcome here anymore if the Pats franchise Graham, do you?
OrangeShadow
02-08-2007, 08:19 PM
Yeah it is a damn funny show. And most of the guests they have on know what the hell they are talking about. Their sox coverage is excellent and its interesting to watch during the denver games.
Master___Pain
02-08-2007, 08:20 PM
yeah who would want one of if not THE best blocking tight end in the game, thats just crazy talk. :loopy:
Who? Losers like me.
broncs2bowl
02-08-2007, 08:21 PM
Who? Losers like me.
Yeah probs losers like you
Crowpointer
02-08-2007, 08:24 PM
You realize that you will not be welcome here anymore if the Pats franchise Graham, do you?
Not going to Happen. If they franchise anyone it will be Samuel's. They actually talked about this on the show Shadow and I were talking about. They will most likely franchise Samuel but for one year only (they won't use it to sign him long term) Graham is rumored to want to go to a place where he is more part of the offense like when he was at CU. Maybe the Broncos will be a good fit ?
Jens1893
02-08-2007, 08:27 PM
Yeah probs losers like you
And me.
Bring the guy home. Grew up in Denver, played his High School ball at Jefferson High in Denver, played his College ball in Boulder and helped the Buffs to a Big 12 Championship ...
Master___Pain
02-08-2007, 08:31 PM
And me.
Bring the guy home. Grew up in Denver, played his High School ball at Jefferson High in Denver, played his College ball in Boulder and helped the Buffs to a Big 12 Championship ...
And the fact that he's a damn good TE. Right now, he's better than anyone we have on the roster (And before any Scheffler fanboys get their panties twisted, I'm talking about right now, not potential)
Jens1893
02-08-2007, 08:32 PM
Not going to Happen. If they franchise anyone it will be Samuel's. They actually talked about this on the show Shadow and I were talking about. They will most likely franchise Samuel but for one year only (they won't use it to sign him long term) Graham is rumored to want to go to a place where he is more part of the offense like when he was at CU. Maybe the Broncos will be a good fit ?
Herc posted that he was told by a friend of his that the Broncos would be Grahamīs #1 choice if he hit the open market. Graham grew up in Denver and his family is still there, I think, so I can see why heīd want to come back home.
Franchising Samuel would be the smart move.
azbroncfan
02-08-2007, 08:46 PM
An opposing QB's nightmare. Twenty INTs ;D
Until he looked down at the front 7. Actually it is amazing as hell that champ has 18 picks over past 2 years.
BroncoInferno
02-08-2007, 09:08 PM
And would free a roster spot by making Alexander and Jackson expendable for only a small bump in the cap.
Are you sure it'd only be a small bump? don't get me wrong, I'd love to bring Graham in, but he'll probably sign for around $5 million per, whereas Jackson and Alexander probably don't combine for more than $2-2.5 million.
SpringStein
02-08-2007, 09:23 PM
This was posted 6 hours ago ...and still no link?
Rascal
02-08-2007, 09:31 PM
Because there is no link. I've looked around and the places that usually have information like this (rotoworld, footballguys, etc) have no mention of it.
I'm guessing the original poster was making a speculation.
Barry Ramey
02-08-2007, 09:36 PM
I wouldn't give Graham huge money, but I know I'd rather have him than Alexander.
Kaylore
02-08-2007, 09:58 PM
This is bogus. There is nothing anywhere even hinting this.
fontaine
02-09-2007, 06:53 AM
Are you sure it'd only be a small bump? don't get me wrong, I'd love to bring Graham in, but he'll probably sign for around $5 million per, whereas Jackson and Alexander probably don't combine for more than $2-2.5 million.
So what? Whatever deal Graham signs with the Broncos will be CHEAPER on the cap than Alexander/Jackon's cap charge this year.
Yes they both count around $2million. We cut both of them, save $2million worth of space and use it for Graham's cap charge this year.
Not only do we save a roster spot because Graham can block and catch better than both these chumps, but we get a locker room leader with great intanglibles and solve our TE problems for a couple of years with Schef/Graham.
I mean you DO realize that Alexander is a FA after 2007. We'll have to sign another TE then anyway. Why not do it now with one of best blocking TEs out there and actualy make our two TE set a threat rather than a joke?
I've had enough of this team carrying 5/6 TEs every season and all of them sucking.
Rascal
02-09-2007, 02:31 PM
The window for NFL teams to designate franchise or transitional players opened yesterday, and closes on Feb. 22. But there was no news on which player the Patriots might tag. CB Asante Samuel and TE Daniel Graham are most likely to be designated as the team’s franchise player. However, Samuel and his agent Alonzo Shavers, are on the record as saying that the fourth-year corner would not be happy if he were to be franchised. As for Graham, there are rumblings that he wants out of New England, but neither he nor his agent, Jack Mills, have said anything publicly.
http://www.projo.com/patriots/content/sp_fbn_patriots09_02-09-07_BV4BI96.17ac39c.html