View Full Version : I would do this deal-Draft speculation!
Denver724
02-07-2007, 04:46 PM
From ESPN chat yesterday.
Tom (Denver, CO): Any chance Houston would bite at a trade with Denver? Something like Denver's 1st, 2nd rounders and Plummer for Houston's 1st? That would let the Broncos either beef up with a DL prospect or with AP if he fell that far.
Matt Williamson: I think I would do that deal if I were Kubiak's shoes. Plummer is far from great, but he would improve that O quite a bit and the Texans would get three players in exchange for their first round pick. That might be too many picks for Denver to give up as they have their share of needs as well, but adding a big time pass rusher would certainly help the entire D.
Hercules Rockefeller
02-07-2007, 04:48 PM
I'd rather see what Denver could get straight-up for Jake first before they look to package him, but that's not a terrible trade.
Rock Chalk
02-07-2007, 04:50 PM
Houston is looking to trade down for more picks since they have none to spare. McClain mentioned that if Houston does make any moves in the draft, it wont be to move up and lose picks, but move down and gain picks (this was mentioned during speculation of Houston moving up to get Peterson).
It depends a lot on who is there at 8 when its Houston's turn to shop. If that one stud LT is there (I dont recall his name, but he is supposedly a stud), they wont trade the pick away or if Peterson is there, but barring that there is a strong possibility Houston does get out of that pick for more choices later.
Conversely, I dont think anyone that will be there at #8 is worth two draft picks on the first day and Plummer, so I dont see it as a likely scenario for us.
Hotrod
02-07-2007, 04:51 PM
I'd rather see what Denver could get straight-up for Jake first before they look to package him, but that's not a terrible trade.
I would agree. I'd be more interested in getting a pick/s for him and then looking to shop those on draft day depending on how things played out.
Atlas
02-07-2007, 04:52 PM
not a chance.
Plummer can be had for a 4th round pick. It'll take more than that to move up to Houston's spot.
epicSocialism4tw
02-07-2007, 04:54 PM
Broncofans...It's "AD", not "AP".
"AD" is an anacronym for "All Day"
If ya dont know, ya betta aks somebody.
Paladin
02-07-2007, 05:19 PM
Alright: Who's AD?
SoonerBronco
02-07-2007, 05:47 PM
Alright: Who's AD?
AD = Adrian Peterson
AD stands for "all day". It was the name his father gave to him at eight years old because it seemed he could run "all Day". It kinda fits for his football career as well.
Mr. Trout
02-07-2007, 05:56 PM
If Peterson is there lets swing this dealio..Jake, Tatum, our 1st and 2nd rounders for Peterson and their 4th rounder.
Jens1893
02-07-2007, 06:00 PM
the deal would value Plummer at 230 points ... a high third rounder.
If we were to move up to number 8 for someone, IŽd want it to be for Alan Branch rather than for AD.
Clockwork Orange
02-07-2007, 06:12 PM
I'd do it so long as one of the premier D-linemen (Branch, Adams, Anderson) or Peterson were still on the board.
OrangeShadow
02-07-2007, 06:15 PM
I agree with clockwork. only for adams branch or anderson
Hercules Rockefeller
02-07-2007, 06:17 PM
Couldn't do a draft day trade since Jake will be gone by the first week of FA.
Clockwork Orange
02-07-2007, 06:21 PM
Couldn't do a draft day trade since Jake will be gone by the first week of FA.
Well then fudge that. I'd hate for them to move all the way up there and be left holding their willies because all of their targets went before they hit the clock. If that were to happen, I suppose that Amobi Okoye or Laron Landry would be the next logical choice. I like both of them, but neither excites me enough to move into the top 10 for them.
Well then fudge that. I'd hate for them to move all the way up there and be left holding their willies because all of their targets went before they hit the clock. If that were to happen, I suppose that Amobi Okoye or Laron Landry would be the next logical choice. I like both of them, but neither excites me enough to move into the top 10 for them.
well baring any major movements in the top10 Quinn, Russell, Thomas, and CJ are all slated to go before #8 so that would guarantee either of the 2 DEs, branch, or peterson dropping to denver's selection. And if any of the 4 did drop I definately would not mind CJ or Thomas at #8
Hercules Rockefeller
02-07-2007, 06:37 PM
I don't think it's a guarantee that Quinn goes before Houston anymore. I think Kiper has him dropping to #9 in his latest mock. It'll all depend on if Oakland goes for Russell or some other position.
I don't think it's a guarantee that Quinn goes before Houston anymore. I think Kiper has him dropping to #9 in his latest mock. It'll all depend on if Oakland goes for Russell or some other position.
I think with the lack of QB depth in the draft this year Quinn will definately go early. Teams will be trading up for him if he starts to fall because the gap between him and the next QB is pretty substantial.
elsid13
02-07-2007, 06:47 PM
I know that some folks are excited by getting a big name, but I rather have the picks to get depth that will help us win in the long term. Played right Denver can pick up a Top Notch WR to run the 3WRs sets - after Rod retires, a DT that could make a difference, a safety that can be a play maker.
Clockwork Orange
02-07-2007, 06:56 PM
I know that some folks are excited by getting a big name, but I rather have the picks to get depth that will help us win in the long term. Played right Denver can pick up a Top Notch WR to run the 3WRs sets - after Rod retires, a DT that could make a difference, a safety that can be a play maker.
It's not about getting a big name, it's about getting someone who has the potential to be an immediate impact player. Sometimes you have to gamble on that.
elsid13
02-07-2007, 07:02 PM
It's not about getting a big name, it's about getting someone who has the potential to be an immediate impact player. Sometimes you have to gamble on that.
As someone else pointed out there is no guarantee that top ten pick will be immediate impact player,see the Boz, Leif, Mike Williams. That real impact player might come in the second or 7th. And it make more business sense to reduce your risk and have options.
Clockwork Orange
02-07-2007, 07:08 PM
As someone else pointed out there is no guarantee that top ten pick will be immediate impact player,see the Boz, Leif, Mike Williams. That real impact player might come in the second or 7th. And it make more business sense to reduce your risk and have options.
It always makes more business sense to be conservative, sit back and hope that an impact player happens to fall into your lap.
I just don't always prefer the conservative approach. If I see a guy who I think can be an impact player and/or fill a position for the next dozen years or so, I'm all for gambling on him.
Willynowei
02-07-2007, 07:15 PM
Could someone explain to me the fascination with the years top running back every draft since portis left here on the mane?
Do we really need a gazillion dollar player at a position where most guys wear out in 2 seasons?
I don't know, I just think when the line's winning the battle, your RB is more of a luxury than a need.
elsid13
02-07-2007, 07:16 PM
It always makes more business sense to be conservative, sit back and hope that an impact player happens to fall into your lap.
I just don't always prefer the conservative approach. If I see a guy who I think can be an impact player and/or fill a position for the next dozen years or so, I'm all for gambling on him.
I'm not stating don't be aggressive, I saying that trade all this for one player is heck of opportunity cost, especially when you factor in the nature of this game - injuries, human nature, etc. I like having multiply options to succeed then just depend one thing.
Shanahan seem to be a smart enough guy not to have options.
Clockwork Orange
02-07-2007, 07:37 PM
I'm not stating don't be aggressive, I saying that trade all this for one player is heck of opportunity cost, especially when you factor in the nature of this game - injuries, human nature, etc. I like having multiply options to succeed then just depend one thing.
Shanahan seem to be a smart enough guy not to have options.
I'd be willing to make this particular deal because it still leaves us with a pair of 3rd rounders, one of which is a high 3rd rounder. That gives them enough options for me to be comfortable. They can use both picks, or they can package them together to move back into the 2nd round if there's someone there they like.
Clockwork Orange
02-07-2007, 07:38 PM
Could someone explain to me the fascination with the years top running back every draft since portis left here on the mane?
Do we really need a gazillion dollar player at a position where most guys wear out in 2 seasons?
I don't know, I just think when the line's winning the battle, your RB is more of a luxury than a need.
Peterson is only one of the players I'd target at that pick, so this isn't specifically about him. I'd be much happier to get Alan Branch, Jamaal Anderson or Gaines Adams at #8, though Peterson wouldn't exactly disappoint me either.
SureShot
02-07-2007, 07:45 PM
I say do it. If no one is there that Shananhan covets we could always trade down.
Jesterhole
02-07-2007, 08:21 PM
I really don't want the #1 pick. You're giving a big time contract to someone who has a better chance of being a bust or an average player rather than the All Pro player you just paid for.
I'd rather have the three picks, and trade Jake for a 5th or 6th.
Broncojef
02-07-2007, 08:44 PM
I'd really like to see a dominate back to set this offense off. Defenses respecting the run will make everything just that much easier for Cutler.
Cutler, Scheffler, Javon and Marshall are Cadillac's why are people so content to settle for putting a Hyundai in the backfield. The last time Shanny won SuperBowls he had a stud offense with a horse in TD...I'd say our blueprint is coming back to life if we get another RB worth a damn.