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The MVPlaya
02-04-2007, 09:42 PM
Bears look like they are .5 of a QB away from winning the SB. You think they'd be interested in aquiring Jake Plummer possibly for some picks?

I honestly wouldn't want to trade Plummer for some picks because I think he is more valuable than that. Although I know he is a tough competitor and he will ask to be traded if he can't start.

Taco John
02-04-2007, 09:43 PM
They already have one.

Clockwork Orange
02-04-2007, 09:44 PM
They already have one.

Two, actually.

Hercules Rockefeller
02-04-2007, 09:44 PM
They were the only team that had interest in him when the Broncos signed him, so maybe. Plummer, Griese, or Rexy?

Taco John
02-04-2007, 09:45 PM
Two, actually.


ROFL! Ha! :notworthy

watermock
02-04-2007, 09:51 PM
Gatorade time.

12th man
02-04-2007, 09:54 PM
Jake for Thomas Jones, or Cedric Benson. I like both of the Bears rb's.

JPEZ
02-04-2007, 10:10 PM
Bears look like they are .5 of a QB away from winning the SB. You think they'd be interested in aquiring Jake Plummer possibly for some picks?

I honestly wouldn't want to trade Plummer for some picks because I think he is more valuable than that. Although I know he is a tough competitor and he will ask to be traded if he can't start.

There is NO way the Bears are dumb enough to have the NFL version of the 3 stooges!

watermock
02-04-2007, 10:13 PM
I think there would be some interest in Jake after Grossman's turdfest.

He had at least 6 horrible plays. Hard to believe he was 20-28 and didn't throw the picks till the 4th.

spdirty
02-04-2007, 10:13 PM
For the 532,653,896,457,253,755th time, the Broncos will not trade Jake Plummer. Cap hit is too big. This isnt the NBA, NHL, or MLB.

Spider
02-04-2007, 10:17 PM
Plummer isnt the answer for Da`Bears ........ who ever the Bears OC is should be fired , Rex Grossman should be arrested for impersonating a NFL QB , but the Bears have some serious coaching questions

watermock
02-04-2007, 10:24 PM
For the 532,653,896,457,253,755th time, the Broncos will not trade Jake Plummer. Cap hit is too big. This isnt the NBA, NHL, or MLB.

Wrong. There is the cap hit regardless...it's just if the signing bonus is all in one year or the majority next year. He will be released or traded. It doesn't cost any salary. Your comment about how this isn't baseball or the NBA is odd because contracts ARE guaranteed in those leagues. Teams often have to eat salary. In the NFL, they are locked in the SB.

I'm not sure why the cap hit would be 8.8 in a trade and 8.0 in a release, but it's basically the same amount...you can just absorb the majority of it next year.

They might just release him since the cap goes up again in 08...it would depend on which, if any offers we would get. One thing for sure, he won't be here.

ZONA
02-04-2007, 10:31 PM
If it's close to the same hit if he's traded or cut, I'd rather trade and get some return value. You have to consider that if you do cut him, you get nada.

watermock
02-04-2007, 10:33 PM
We would get some cap space with a release this year...I think it's a 50/50 proposition. It will depend on what if any offers we get and their value.

Taco John
02-04-2007, 10:41 PM
Wrong. There is the cap hit regardless...


It's considerably less if we put it in writing that we're cutting him on June 2. I don't think this issue is settled by a long shot.

Hercules Rockefeller
02-04-2007, 10:43 PM
It's considerably less if we put it in writing that we're cutting him on June 2. I don't think this issue is settled by a long shot.

and that pushes about $6M in dead money into '08.

I'd rather take the entire hit this year.

Clockwork Orange
02-04-2007, 10:44 PM
It's considerably less if we put it in writing that we're cutting him on June 2. I don't think this issue is settled by a long shot.

Considerably less this year. There will be a good chunk of dead money next year if they go that route.

I'd rather just take the hit this year and be done with it.

Bronco Billy
02-04-2007, 10:47 PM
I agree with you two. Definitely take the hit this year.

Hercules Rockefeller
02-04-2007, 10:47 PM
and since we've now moved into the "June 1 cut" realm, you can designate 2 players as post-June 1 cuts each year, not 1 like we all assumed.

maven
02-04-2007, 10:48 PM
I'd rather just take the hit this year and be done with it.

Agree. The team is in transition and building towards a potentially great future. Continue drafting well is the key.

baja
02-04-2007, 10:51 PM
One consideration in how to handle Plummer's departure will be if we need cap money to sign a big name player this off season.

watermock
02-04-2007, 10:55 PM
I would rather move some salary into SB to a player that will be with us for awhile. There are other ways to make cap room ...maybe Javon or someone else...I hate to do it with Rod, his salary is too high now as it is. I don't know what Jay's salary is next year, a few dollars might be able to be moved there...dunno.

I would rather just get Jake off the books but again, if we don't get a decent offer, like at least a 4, then you can still release him and divide the hit. I don't see why the Bears wouldn't be interested. I'm sure Griese will be a FA, and Grossman was simply horrible in not only some throws, but his decision making.

Taco John
02-04-2007, 10:57 PM
Considerably less this year. There will be a good chunk of dead money next year if they go that route.




Are you sure about that? It's been my understanding that the dead money is split in half, with this year and next year being the exact same amount.

watermock
02-04-2007, 11:00 PM
I think it's the pro rated amount of 2m this year, then the balance of 6 next if they go that route.

Hercules Rockefeller
02-04-2007, 11:03 PM
Are you sure about that? It's been my understanding that the dead money is split in half, with this year and next year being the exact same amount.

Year 1 is always that's year chunk of the amortized bonus money, Year 2 is always whatever is left.

Ex: 5-year deal, $10M in signing bonus, so $2M per year against the cap. Cut in year 3 after June 1 means a $2M hit that season and the reamining $4M is all the next season.

Jake is like a $2.8M/$5.6M breakdown.

maven
02-04-2007, 11:13 PM
As bad as Rex has played the 2nd half of the season and postseason, he did just complete his 1st full season of football. You cannot put the clamps on a QB, and expect to win the SB. See 2005 & 2006 Denver Broncos. He's still relatively young and will improve if given the chance. If the coaching staff continues with the clamps on, Rex & the Bears are not going to win SB's. Some will mention the Baltimore Ravens. How many teams have in the past 25 years teams won with that formula? And the Chicago Bears 2006 D were no 2000 Baltimore Ravens D.

DBroncos4life
02-04-2007, 11:23 PM
Jones for Plummer

Houshyamama
03-29-2010, 05:53 PM
BUMP.

You were doing it wrong.

The MVPlaya
03-29-2010, 05:59 PM
lol you'll probably be able to bump 1000+ threads of predictions... however I think YOU were doing it wrong... I'm not bumping threads in order to show bad predictions...

Boobs McGee
03-29-2010, 06:42 PM
LOL at maven's avvy hahaha. oh britney, where have you gone?