Denver Looking to Trade Up for Adrian Peterson?

[epicSocialism4tw]

I heard a Mel Kiper interview yesterday and a small clip from one of his statements was played during a (for lack of the correct jargon) commercial segue was played where he talked about Denver's interest in trading up for AD, and that it was a probable event in the draft.

I'm not sure where Kiper's speculation oriented since I only heard him say a couple of sentances about it, so has anyone heard anything similar out there that has some credibility or substantiation backing it up?

[Paladin]

Not a thing, but why not?

To tie another thread with this one, if the Broncos were able to sign Sands and Kearney, they could go for Peterson with anny or all of the first three picks and grab a S with the last third and that would be a great draft right there. Additional threes and 4s could come from Plummer and Foster, and I think the Broncos would be in excellent shape next year going into camp.

Depends on how the Dcoaches see it, I think. And whether the Brponcos see Peterson as worth the picks. Would he produce?

[footstepsfrom#27]

Sadly...it's probably Kiper trying to generate attention before his annually appointed 2 days of fame. Unless he's got some inside dope, which I doubt...I trust little of what he says.

Can't remember...but did he know 3 months in advance of Shanny's interest in Cutler?

[epicSocialism4tw]

Sadly...it's probably Kiper trying to generate attention before his annually appointed 2 days of fame. Unless he's got some inside dope, which I doubt...I trust little of what he says.

Can't remember...but did he know 3 months in advance of Shanny's interest in Cutler?

There were several people who did, and it was largely passed off as draft buzz garbage. I cant remember who were the main purveyors of those opinions because I dismissed them for the most part as well, but there were several draft guys who knew of Denver's interest in Cutler.

[DBroncos4life]

I don't know why it would be so hard for some of us to believe that a guy like Mel Kiper could find out info about the NFL draft. Its what he does for a living. Team message boards has inside info but yet Mel Kiper Jr is out of the loop. ROFL!

[Clockwork Orange]

If he's still on the board at around the 8th pick, I could see it.

[MechanicalBull]

Doesn't Kiper still think we drafted Steven Jackson instead of DJ, so why would we need a rb? I don't know if I want to risk all of our draft picks on Peterson when we could try and get Lynch, Bush, or Hunt.

Plus I don't think it's a guarantee that Plummer, Foster, and Tatum get traded. I think Jake gets released and Foster at least makes it to training camp and see what he does before probably getting cut since he isn't making that much.

At least the TE in the first round projections have died down for the most part unlike previous years since Sharpe left.

[epicSocialism4tw]

If he's still on the board at around the 8th pick, I could see it.


After the combine, I dont see Peterson lasting until 8. Unless he comes up lame or something, I would expect him to exceed the already high expectations he will have going into the combine.

I think that the number of players with AD's upside in the draft are very few, and AD already has a list of accomplishments that is relatively impressive. Calvin Johnson is the only other player that is in his league athletically as far as how he stands out against his peers.

I could see Cleveland taking him at 3.

[Clockwork Orange]

After the combine, I dont see Peterson lasting until 8. Unless he comes up lame or something, I would expect him to exceed the already high expectations he will have going into the combine.

I think that the number of players with AD's upside in the draft are very few, and AD already has a list of accomplishments that is relatively impressive. Calvin Johnson is the only other player that is in his league athletically as far as how he stands out against his peers.

I could see Cleveland taking him at 3.

I said pretty much the same thing when I put my first mock together a few weeks ago. His durability issues may be dogging him a bit right now, but after he hits the combine and teams get a close up look at what a specimin he is, I think his stock will elevate right back to top 5 status.

He'd be a perfect fit for Cleveland.

[TheDave]

Now it's official...we are NOT drafting AP

[Broncoman13]

There were several people who did, and it was largely passed off as draft buzz garbage. I cant remember who were the main purveyors of those opinions because I dismissed them for the most part as well, but there were several draft guys who knew of Denver's interest in Cutler.

Bullshiat flag being raised........ NOW!

There was buzz that we were moving up for a QB but his name was not Jay Cutler. Leinart was the one that everybody suspected we were going after. Except for the half million that swore we were after Vernon Davis. The Broncos were so careful about Cutler that they never even spoke to him... not once!

[epicSocialism4tw]

I said pretty much the same thing when I put my first mock together a few weeks ago. His durability issues may be dogging him a bit right now, but after he hits the combine and teams get a close up look at what a specimin he is, I think his stock will elevate right back to top 5 status.

He'd be a perfect fit for Cleveland.


I've seen him in every game he's played in his college career, and he's one of those players that comes along once in a generation as far as raw talent and ability goes. He's abnormally strong, has a furious competitive streak, is abnormally fast, abnormally agile, has great leadership abilities, gets along with his coaches well, is a marketable personality and has a total athletic package that translates into something that is awe-inspiring while on TV. He's a highight reel like Bo Jackson was. A cannonball.

If his combine is as good as I think it can be, I could see the Radiers grabbing him. I think that Cleveland at #3 is probably more likely though, and is more likely than Houston at #8

[Broncoman13]

When he runs in the 4.3 range and weighs in at 220+ lbs he'll start opening some eyes. He's a better prospect than Ronnie Brown and he went 3rd overall.

[epicSocialism4tw]

There was buzz that we were moving up for a QB but his name was not Jay Cutler. Leinart was the one that everybody suspected we were going after.


The buzz that I was talking about was just that Denver was interested in Cutler, and would take him if the opportunity arose. In retrospect, it looks like they had Cutler pegged the whole time. There were several draftniks and mock-drafters that insinuated that Denver was making a play for Cutler.

[chaz]

this is a huge wet dream....in the off chance he lasts to the 8th spot where we possibly make a deal with.........it doesnt matter, no way after the combine he makes it that far....its too bad

[chaz]

does no one think cleveland will take a qb at 3??? i think brady quinn would be a great pick at their spot...charlie frye is not the answer and they know it. after the top two in this draft there are no starting qbs

[Broncoman13]

Put it to you this way. If he lasts to #8 there is no way the Texans trade that pick away, so it will have to be a deal that's done prior to the draft even starting. The Texans would not blow their chance at getting Adrian Peterson on draft day, but they could sell their fan base the story of "we didn't think Peterson would last that long" if they traded the pick prior to the draft.

I'd do the deal even if I thought Peterson was going to be gone by the 8th pick. If he lasts that long GREAT. If not, then I have to make a decision between Branch, Carriker, Nelson/Landry, Brown, Anderson and Lynch. Franchise players mind you!

[maven]

I cant remember who were the main purveyors of those opinions because I dismissed them for the most part as well, but there were several draft guys who knew of Denver's interest in Cutler.

Name one or link? If a QB was possibly considered by Denver, the only guy was Matt Leinart.

[epicSocialism4tw]

When he runs in the 4.3 range and weighs in at 220+ lbs he'll start opening some eyes. He's a better prospect than Ronnie Brown and he went 3rd overall.

Once the measureables are in and the "upside blinders" are put on for every prospect on the board (which will happen in draft media circles soon after the combine), Peterson will look like a top 3 prospect. There will be speculation tossed out of which team will move up to take him ahead of Houston, and he will begin moving up their draft boards.

Those scouts know what he was up against at OU after his freshman season. He was running against 9 guys in the box with regularity, and Stoops milked him pretty hard over the past two seasons. While it seems that he has alot of wear and tear on him, he really doesnt have as much as you would think because he missed so much time with a couple of injuries, and those injuries werent serious career-altering injuries. He didnt injure his knee.

[maven]

Now it's official...we are NOT drafting AP

Agree.

And he'll possibly go very high, which Denver will not dump the entire draft for him.

[Atlas]

I like Kiper, no one knows more about the draft than him. I have a hard time seeing Denver draft from 21 to the top 5.

[DBroncos4life]

I just hope we don't take Lynch

[Hercules Rockefeller]

The buzz that I was talking about was just that Denver was interested in Cutler, and would take him if the opportunity arose. In retrospect, it looks like they had Cutler pegged the whole time. There were several draftniks and mock-drafters that insinuated that Denver was making a play for Cutler.

It was the beat writers who said Denver could go for a QB if one slipped, all of the "draft experts" thought it was a smoke-screen.

[maven]

I have a hard time seeing Denver draft from 21 to the top 5.

Agree. Denver doesn't have the resources to move up, unless they dump their entire draft and a future 1st. Which, would be a terrible move, dumping their draft for a RB.

[Sodak]

With our draft history we might as well sign one sure deal instead of a bunch of promising prospects who bust. Although, recent years have been much better evaluating talent.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Wishfull thinking by Mr. Llama

[chaz]

Put it to you this way. If he lasts to #8 there is no way the Texans trade that pick away, so it will have to be a deal that's done prior to the draft even starting. The Texans would not blow their chance at getting Adrian Peterson on draft day, but they could sell their fan base the story of "we didn't think Peterson would last that long" if they traded the pick prior to the draft.

I'd do the deal even if I thought Peterson was going to be gone by the 8th pick. If he lasts that long GREAT. If not, then I have to make a decision between Branch, Carriker, Nelson/Landry, Brown, Anderson and Lynch. Franchise players mind you!

carriker, nelson, landry, brown and lynch are all taken outside the top ten...no need to trade up that high if that is who you're after. i agree that the deal would ahve to be done prior to the draft, but i just dont see that big of a gamble being taken....if we're going to sell the farm, you have to make sure you get who you want.

[epicSocialism4tw]

With our draft history we might as well sign one sure deal instead of a bunch of promising prospects who bust. Although, recent years have been much better evaluating talent.

No doubt.

[Ratboy]

We can dream.

Unless Shanahan thinks with a solid running game we can get to the superbowl next year, He won't give up that many picks.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

We can dream.

Unless Shanahan thinks with a solid running game we can get to the superbowl next year, He won't give up that many picks.

I don't think a move for AP would be for the Super Bowl next year, though I'm sure Shanahan wouldn't do it if he thought it would take away from their chances of winning. A move for AP would be to (hopefully) find the young stud RB to go with the young QB, basically like the Colts did taking Edge the year they took Peyton. It'd be a more of a long-term move than a move for this year.

[epicSocialism4tw]

I don't think a move for AP would be for the Super Bowl next year, though I'm sure Shanahan wouldn't do it if he thought it would take away from their chances of winning. A move for AP would be to (hopefully) find the young stud RB to go with the young QB, basically like the Colts did taking Edge the year they took Peyton. It'd be a more of a long-term move than a move for this year.


Yep, and what a combination that could be.

[Clockwork Orange]

I don't think a move for AP would be for the Super Bowl next year, though I'm sure Shanahan wouldn't do it if he thought it would take away from their chances of winning. A move for AP would be to (hopefully) find the young stud RB to go with the young QB, basically like the Colts did taking Edge the year they took Peyton. It'd be a more of a long-term move than a move for this year.

I'd be fine with that. Nothing wrong with laying the foundation for the future, which really all started last year when the Broncos decided to make the move up the board for a QB.

[Rock Chalk]

Kiper shouldn't use his hairspray in confined spaces. Its affecting his judgement.

[cutthemdown]

Not a thing, but why not?

To tie another thread with this one, if the Broncos were able to sign Sands and Kearney, they could go for Peterson with anny or all of the first three picks and grab a S with the last third and that would be a great draft right there. Additional threes and 4s could come from Plummer and Foster, and I think the Broncos would be in excellent shape next year going into camp.

Depends on how the Dcoaches see it, I think. And whether the Brponcos see Peterson as worth the picks. Would he produce?

with all the comp picks that teams will be getting Broncos should stay away from the 4th and 5th rounds. They already are out of the 4th round. I'm all for trading up though to grab Peterson.

[ward63]

does no one think cleveland will take a qb at 3??? i think brady quinn would be a great pick at their spot...charlie frye is not the answer and they know it. after the top two in this draft there are no starting qbs

Cleveland takes Troy Smith in the second round! MOney maker for them and he's a winner

[elsid13]

Cleveland takes Troy Smith in the second round! MOney maker for them and he's a winner

And I understand they already bought a step stool to allow him to see over the offensive line. Smith will be 3rd rounder or later QB due to his size. In fact the best he can hope for is Seneca Wallace type of career. Sorry but there aren't a lot of 5'10/5'11 starters in the league

[NFLBRONCO]

We had 15th pick in alot better draft with great ammo we couldn't hit 8th pick. This year everyone wants to go up to top 10 in a weaker draft from 21. I guess we rape Wash every year we might talk to them. Why would a team pass on an elite player and move down to nowhere land.

[bpc]

If anything at least it gives me hope that we are soon going to ditch this pathetic RBBC BS that has failed us considerably when it counted over the past three or four years.

I still don't think we draft a HB though. Its clear this team needs even more help on the defensive side of the ball at the DL position primarily. I imagine we'll bring in a vet to challenge Mike Bell and see if he continues to grow as a player. Its not out of the realm of possibilities that he could be a very good player in the future.

I think we'll see #31 and #20 lining up for the Broncos in the backfield next season.

[elsid13]

If anything at least it gives me hope that we are soon going to ditch this pathetic RBBC BS that has failed us considerably when it counted over the past three or four years.

I still don't think we draft a HB though. Its clear this team needs even more help on the defensive side of the ball at the DL position primarily. I imagine we'll bring in a vet to challenge Mike Bell and see if he continues to grow as a player. Its not out of the realm of possibilities that he could be a very good player in the future.

I think we'll see #31 and #20 lining up for the Broncos in the backfield next season.

#31???

Quentin Harris http://images.nfl.com/images/players/60x80/303570.jpg
Position: DB
Height: 6-1
Weight: 213
Born: 01/26/1977
College: Syracuse
NFL Experience: 5

[watermock]

While I think that we are pretty close and don't need a ton of picks, once they give AP the eyeball test jaws are going to drop just like they did with VD.

It would take a kings ransom to get him.

[chaz]

would anyone be willing to give up our first and second this year and our first next year? even then would that be enough value to get us up that high?? could even throw tatum or jake in there...

not even saying this is what i want to happen, just wondering with everyone drooling over him, how many of you would be willing to do what it takes and pull the trigger

[bpc]

#31???

Quentin Harris http://images.nfl.com/images/players/60x80/303570.jpg
Position: DB
Height: 6-1
Weight: 213
Born: 01/26/1977
College: Syracuse
NFL Experience: 5

this #31....

[ward63]

And I understand they already bought a step stool to allow him to see over the offensive line. Smith will be 3rd rounder or later QB due to his size. In fact the best he can hope for is Seneca Wallace type of career. Sorry but there aren't a lot of 5'10/5'11 starters in the league

I still believe he'll be a second rounder. Drew Brees is short and he's doing alright. I'm not saying he'll be as good, but I don't think he'll be a third. He might be at the latest, but I still see him somehow goin to Cleveland.

[elsid13]

Unlike some, I don't believe that Lewis will be leaving the gonorrhea capital of the US.

[Clockwork Orange]

this #31....

I was dead set against Lewis a year ago, but now I'm alright with the idea of a stopgap if it means that the Broncos target a RB in the '08 draft. Lewis has a lot of mileage on him, but I wouldn't mind him here for one year if it means the end of the RBBC and that the Broncos will address the position in, what appears to be, a rich class of RB's in 2008.

[chaz]

I still believe he'll be a second rounder. Drew Brees is short and he's doing alright. I'm not saying he'll be as good, but I don't think he'll be a third. He might be at the latest, but I still see him somehow goin to Cleveland.

i think clevelands pick early in the third is very probable for him....if they took him with 35 theyd be crazy

[elsid13]

I still believe he'll be a second rounder. Drew Brees is short and he's doing alright. I'm not saying he'll be as good, but I don't think he'll be a third. He might be at the latest, but I still see him somehow goin to Cleveland.

Bree is closer is 6 feet and 2/3". He is about Plummer's height. and those 2 inches make a difference.

[chaz]

I was dead set against Lewis a year ago, but now I'm alright with the idea of a stopgap if it means that the Broncos target a RB in the '08 draft. Lewis has a lot of mileage on him, but I wouldn't mind him here for one year if it means the end of the RBBC and that the Broncos will address the position in, what appears to be, a rich class of RB's in 2008.

i have been meaning to ask about this...besides mcfadden who will be there at RB next year??

[footstepsfrom#27]

AP = TD with more speed. I'd gladly jetison this draft for him. We stand to wind up with 1 pretty good player and a couple decent ones in this draft. Gimme the 1800-2000 yard back...which is what AP is in this system.

Failing a mind numbing move like that...just gimme somebody like Levi Brown who can push Foster of this team.

[maven]

would anyone be willing to give up our first and second this year and our first next year? even then would that be enough value to get us up that high?? could even throw tatum or jake in there...


For a RB? hell no!

[Clockwork Orange]

i have been meaning to ask about this...besides mcfadden who will be there at RB next year??

Just off the top of my head, Jonathan Stewart from Oregon, Steve Slaton from West Virginia & Ray Rice from Rutgers could all be in the '08 draft.

There's more that I'm forgetting, but it's looking like a potentially amazing crop of RB's.

[Atlas]

With our draft history we might as well sign one sure deal instead of a bunch of promising prospects who bust. Although, recent years have been much better evaluating talent.

If you mean history as being the last two years Denver has done very well drafting... I guess maybe that doesn't count.

[-Slap-]

Put it to you this way. If he lasts to #8 there is no way the Texans trade that pick away, so it will have to be a deal that's done prior to the draft even starting. The Texans would not blow their chance at getting Adrian Peterson on draft day, but they could sell their fan base the story of "we didn't think Peterson would last that long" if they traded the pick prior to the draft.

I'd do the deal even if I thought Peterson was going to be gone by the 8th pick. If he lasts that long GREAT. If not, then I have to make a decision between Branch, Carriker, Nelson/Landry, Brown, Anderson and Lynch. Franchise players mind you!

After passing on Vince Young last year I could just see them trying to explain this one.

:rofl:

[Atlas]

And I understand they already bought a step stool to allow him to see over the offensive line. Smith will be 3rd rounder or later QB due to his size. In fact the best he can hope for is Seneca Wallace type of career. Sorry but there aren't a lot of 5'10/5'11 starters in the league

It's not really his size it's his lack of accuracy in tight spots. A lot of people say he can't make the NFL throws. His play in the senior bowl and the National Championship games haven't helped him either.

[-Slap-]

Just off the top of my head, Jonathan Stewart from Oregon, Steve Slaton from West Virginia & Ray Rice from Rutgers could all be in the '08 draft.

There's more that I'm forgetting, but it's looking like a potentially amazing crop of RB's.

I can't wait to see Steve Slaton play on Sundays.

[Lestat]

let everyone else feast on AP, i think we trade up & take Marshawn Lynch

he's a mix of LT & Maroney, speed, power, receiving & ST's

[elsid13]

I think that Ray Rice would be the best fit for the Broncos next year. Kid has the speed and the vision to excel in the zone blocking scheme.

[azbroncfan]

Why would Houston trade out of 8 when they need a player like AP(assuming he is there even) especially after passing on bush. Denver would have to give up all of their draft picks.

[ward63]

I think that Ray Rice would be the best fit for the Broncos next year. Kid has the speed and the vision to excel in the zone blocking scheme.

I'd love to have him too, but can we really wait another year?

[ZONA]

A/P is a great back but the fact that we need many of our high picks to get some decent DL in camp overides any chance of moving up to get Peterson. This is much much different then moving up to snag a franchise QB. There are only so many that fall to where we got Cutler and they are much fewer then then the amount of quality backs a team can get into camp.

I pray Shanny skips on hopes of giving up our top picks to get one guy. There is no such thing as a guaranteed pick as one guy suggested earlier.

LT is the best back in the league - he was home watching the Superbowl while Rhoads racked up 100 yards. Those running lanes were huge.

Get back to the basics and boost both lines and win the trench war.

[WABronco]

Just off the top of my head, Jonathan Stewart from Oregon, Steve Slaton from West Virginia & Ray Rice from Rutgers could all be in the '08 draft.

There's more that I'm forgetting, but it's looking like a potentially amazing crop of RB's.

Stewart's the best of the bunch IMO. He's a little like Ricky Williams, pre-weed suspension. If he can stay healthy for once he's a top-2 back. If he proves he can stay healthy I'd strongly consider taking him over McFadden.

Don't forget Felix Jones, James Davis, Rafael Little (UK), and the low-end guys like Brandon Ore, Ian Johnson, and Albert Young. STACKED.

[Rohirrim]

The local ink stained wretches hang out at Dove Valley constantly and can't squeeze out a trickle of info, and you're telling me Big Hair gets the scoop from Shanahan? Not bloody likely.

Speaking of ink stained wretches, where's the Wabbit these days?

[Sodak]

If you mean history as being the last two years Denver has done very well drafting... I guess maybe that doesn't count.


Go back and read the post again. I said what you're thinking.

[chaz]

A/P is a great back but the fact that we need many of our high picks to get some decent DL in camp overides any chance of moving up to get Peterson. This is much much different then moving up to snag a franchise QB. There are only so many that fall to where we got Cutler and they are much fewer then then the amount of quality backs a team can get into camp.

I pray Shanny skips on hopes of giving up our top picks to get one guy. There is no such thing as a guaranteed pick as one guy suggested earlier.

LT is the best back in the league - he was home watching the Superbowl while Rhoads racked up 100 yards. Those running lanes were huge.

Get back to the basics and boost both lines and win the trench war.

good post. everything starts in the trenches but i think we have some good talent there ready to step in when the older guys hang'em up. Keep bringing young guys in late in the draft for depth and the future on the o-line. You are completely right, the o-line can make a runner look really good or really bad.

[ward63]

Draft on both sides of the o-line this year. If they were all DL and OL players in the draft for us, I don't think I'd be upset.

[chaz]

Draft on both sides of the o-line this year. If they were all DL and OL players in the draft for us, I don't think I'd be upset.

everything hinges on free agency and what happens with plummer/tatum/foster/myers/carlisle.....cant make your plans til you know what you're up against

[ward63]

everything hinges on free agency and what happens with plummer/tatum/foster/myers/carlisle.....cant make your plans til you know what you're up against

True, but I'm saying, I'd like to see a lot better production. A better o-line would make a better RB. It's hard for a better RB, make a better o-line(barry sanders the exemption). A better d-line/pass rush would produce a better D.

[NFLBRONCO]

Trade the farm on ONE player at a position whose life span is 5 yrs. Won't a top 7 player will kill our cap? We can't assume we land any DL prospects worth a darn in a weak year everybody needs or wants DL. We will have the same DL in 07.

[elsid13]

I'd love to have him too, but can we really wait another year?

Denver had 1600 plus rushing yard and over 10 TD from the running game. All that without are stud LT and playing a "rookie" RT at the LT position and having are RT because a sissy. I think with healthy Lepsis and experienced Pears manning RT, Denver will be fine.

[Maximus]

I've seen him in every game he's played in his college career, and he's one of those players that comes along once in a generation as far as raw talent and ability goes. He's abnormally strong, has a furious competitive streak, is abnormally fast, abnormally agile, has great leadership abilities, gets along with his coaches well, is a marketable personality and has a total athletic package that translates into something that is awe-inspiring while on TV. He's a highight reel like Bo Jackson was. A cannonball.

If his combine is as good as I think it can be, I could see the Radiers grabbing him. I think that Cleveland at #3 is probably more likely though, and is more likely than Houston at #8

I have to agree with you on this. The hype surrounding the QB's this year is unfounded. There are 2 good qb prospects Quinn and some unidentified person... It's not russell I don't care if he can throw the ball to the moon.

Peterson is a beast and you don't find RB's like him very often...

[Drek]

And I understand they already bought a step stool to allow him to see over the offensive line. Smith will be 3rd rounder or later QB due to his size. In fact the best he can hope for is Seneca Wallace type of career. Sorry but there aren't a lot of 5'10/5'11 starters in the league

FYI Smith measured in at a solid 6'0", 222 lbs. at the senior bowl. Brees and Vick are both 6'0" on NFL.com, Garcia and Brunell have had successful careers recently and are listed at 6'1", Favre, Plummer, McNair, Romo, Delhomme, etc. are all 6'2".

Smith's height will knock him down in the draft, but whoever takes him will get a steal. Teams are always looking for QBs with big arms and mobility, when a guy like Smith comes along though they knock him for his height. He's a poor man's Vick or Young athletically but actually knows how to play QB. I wouldn't be upset if we took him with our late 3rd.

Last year Kiper was talking about us looking to trade up too, but he thought we were after Vernon Davis. Lets hope he's got the right mindset but the wrong guy and we bring Alan Branch home. ;D

[BroncoBuff]

I'd love to have him too, but can we really wait another year?

If we wait a year, there's a kid at West Virginia who's pretty awesome.

[cmhargrove]

I would trade a third, fourth, and next year's fourth from the Redskins to move up, but that's it. There will still be a good RB by #21, but I would rather move up only for a great D-lineman. I think Bobby Turner probably has his eyes on other RB's we aren't really seeing (ala Portis).

One more impact D-lineman would have probably helped us beat the Colts, and the first match against the Chargers.

Having Lepsis healthy certainly could have helped us beat San Fran. and get in the playoffs. However, a healthy Lepsis may have kept Plummer in at QB, so it is a wash.

I love top notch RB's but my first two priorities for this team are:

1. Protect Cutler - he is our future. No doubt.

2. We have to pressure Manning, Brady, Rivers, etc. to win in the AFC. We don't have that now, we know it. We also give up too many third and long situations on defense - we need to collapse the pocket on obvious passing downs.


The priority is still D-line, not RB. We will find someone to carry the ball, especially since Cutler will draw the safeties back in to coverage and allow better running lanes. I would personally lie to see us pick a RB with good blocking skills, and really good hands. I will take just above average on the running skills. We need a weapon for Cutler to dump to on blitzes and play action.

[dbfan21]

I've seen him in every game he's played in his college career, and he's one of those players that comes along once in a generation as far as raw talent and ability goes. He's abnormally strong, has a furious competitive streak, is abnormally fast, abnormally agile, has great leadership abilities, gets along with his coaches well, is a marketable personality and has a total athletic package that translates into something that is awe-inspiring while on TV. He's a highight reel like Bo Jackson was. A cannonball.

If his combine is as good as I think it can be, I could see the Radiers grabbing him. I think that Cleveland at #3 is probably more likely though, and is more likely than Houston at #8

He sounds pretty abnormal to me! Let's get him.

[Broncojef]

AP is exactly what the Broncos need. A runningback that can get it done and take pressure off Cutler by hammering out 1st downs. I bet our D-Line would love the extra blows as well. We gave up alot of leads and turned W's into L's because we couldn't control the clock late in the game this year. Give me AP!!!

[Garcia Bronco]

Injury prone running back...sounds like something we would do

[SoonerBronco]

He is going to put up abnormal :wiggle: numbers at the combine and then all these durability questions will be put to rest.

[SoonerBronco]

Injury prone running back...sounds like something we would do


If he didn't play at Virginia Tech, he sucks monkey balls - Garcia Bronco... ;)

[Florida_Bronco]

I think everyone here might as well forget drafting Peterson, it's just probably not gonna happen.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

He is going to put up abnormal :wiggle: numbers at the combine and then all these durability questions will be put to rest.

I fail to see how his testing numbers at the Combine are going to answer any questions about his durability. People have been saying since his freshman year he'd put up freakish numbers at the Combine when he was eligible to go pro.

[SoonerBronco]

I fail to see how his testing numbers at the Combine are going to answer any questions about his durability. People have been saying since his freshman year he'd put up freakish numbers at the Combine when he was eligible to go pro.


I'm so sick of hearing how a sprained ancle and a broken clavicle make him less durable than the next guy.

Seriously...it's all speculation. I GUARANTEE, if there were real durability issues with him, he would not be a top 10 pick.

ESPiN...

[Garcia Bronco]

If he didn't play at Virginia Tech, he sucks monkey balls - Garcia Bronco... ;)

Now that you mention it:notworthy

[bendog]

Just say no.

[Darkhawk24]

Adrian Peterson is going to be a freak in the NFL. I can understand the injury concern, but it's not like he had any major injuries yet. I don't believe for a second we will move inside the top ten to grab this guy.

Too bad because he is going to be a beast.

[Mr. Trout]

This is a very weak draft. How many 2nd and 3rd rounders has Denver completely busted on in recent years. A RB like Peterson only comes around once in a long while. Give up whatever it takes to get Peterson. The foundation will be set for the future.

[Garcia Bronco]

Adrian Peterson is going to be a freak in the NFL. I can understand the injury concern, but it's not like he had any major injuries yet. I don't believe for a second we will move inside the top ten to grab this guy.

Too bad because he is going to be a beast.

Would a broken collar be serious injury? I think so.

[Mr. Trout]

Would a broken collar be serious injury? I think so.

That is a pretty weak injury.

[SoonerBronco]

Would a broken collar be serious injury? I think so.

Serious in that it takes a while to heal, not serious in that most strapping young lads tend to get them...Besides if you see the play he broke it on, you can't tell he just landed funny. The point is that it is a fairly common injury even for us non-athletic folk and far from career threatening.

[Paladin]

Keep in mind, that my premise was that the Dline would be addressed in the FA with , say, Sands and Kearney. I think the Oline has the backups and future players it needs now, on staff. The S position would be an issue, but that can be addressed after the draft - trade, whatever. Right now, getting a big time, real deal, knock 'em out, stop-us-if-you-can, high threat, go-the-distance-on-a-dive-play, KMA RB is just too good to not do what you need to do to get him. Most anyone taken after the start of the second is roughly equal to the talent of everyone else, and there are a lot of backups that can be had for cheap out there in the wilderness. The Broncos have the QB, they have an Oline, they have a set of up and coming smashingly good WRs and a couple of others, the D would get a spate of new blood and new DCoaches who may have some different ideas, and, that RB would make others respect both the running and passing games which is Shanahan's forte to manage.

I think all the stuff about needing a whole new Dline is not actually proven. And I think the D of the first seven games is more representative of what the Broncos have on that unit.

The RB is it. If the Broncos did not have the QB, I'd agree with the conservative thought of building the Dline, etc., but that is not where the Broncos are. I say, go for it.

Get that RB. Now. Give everything you have to give to get Peterson.

That's my opinion.

(Cue Battle Hymn of the Republic)

[SoonerBronco]

Now, I wouldn't recommend Ditkaing the draft for AD, and if we did I would be shocked, but I do agree his potential in our running game is just too staggering of a thougth. Teams would be pissing thier pants if we did draft him because they would know we have our own set of triplets ala the Dallas Cowboys of the early nineties...just fill in the gaps like ole' Jerruh Jones did...

[2KBack]

This is far too much of a team game to mortgage the future for one player.

[Paladin]

This is far too much of a team game to mortgage the future for one player.

Scaredy cat.

There are few real weaknesses on this team now. You can pound on the Dline all you want, but they did pretty darn well for a team unit that was as much maligned as this one was. Could they have been better? Sure, and a lot of the "voices" hereon decried the scheme as much as the players themselves.

Team sport, yes. But I don't see that he Broncos need a hella lot of new members right now. Why not go for the best? I have no idea what it would take to get him or where they would need to go to get him, but I would say that if her were there around 8-10, Shanahan jumps big time.

That move would make the Broncos instant contenders, no sh*t. That's what I want the Broncos to be. :thumbs:

[Garcia Bronco]

I think it's serious because what do running backs hit with on every play? and...he really didn't land funny at all...what he did was land on his shoulder and it broke his collar....sounds like he has defective bone structure...in which case...we'll diffenately draft him if the opportunity is there.

[SoonerBronco]

I think it's serious because what do running backs hit with on every play? and...he really didn't land funny at all...what he did was land on his shoulder and it broke his collar....sounds like he has defective bone structure...in which case...we'll diffenately draft him if the opportunity is there.

Those breaks grow back stronger...not that big of a deal...

[socalorado]

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Scaredy cat.

There are few real weaknesses on this team now. You can pound on the Dline all you want, but they did pretty darn well for a team unit that was as much maligned as this one was. Could they have been better? Sure, and a lot of the "voices" hereon decried the scheme as much as the players themselves.

Team sport, yes. But I don't see that he Broncos need a hella lot of new members right now. Why not go for the best? I have no idea what it would take to get him or where they would need to go to get him, but I would say that if her were there around 8-10, Shanahan jumps big time.

That move would make the Broncos instant contenders, no sh*t. That's what I want the Broncos to be. :thumbs:
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Ok, so what do you guys think the Broncos give up for AP? Seriously, how many draft picks do we give to say.....Tampa Bay for the 4th pick in the draft?

[Garcia Bronco]

Those breaks grow back stronger...not that big of a deal...

Not if he has weak bone structure. Clearly the injury prone back suffers from some thing bad, or he wouldn't be injured all the time.

[Garcia Bronco]

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Scaredy cat.

There are few real weaknesses on this team now. You can pound on the Dline all you want, but they did pretty darn well for a team unit that was as much maligned as this one was. Could they have been better? Sure, and a lot of the "voices" hereon decried the scheme as much as the players themselves.

Team sport, yes. But I don't see that he Broncos need a hella lot of new members right now. Why not go for the best? I have no idea what it would take to get him or where they would need to go to get him, but I would say that if her were there around 8-10, Shanahan jumps big time.

That move would make the Broncos instant contenders, no sh*t. That's what I want the Broncos to be. :thumbs:
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Ok, so what do you guys think the Broncos give up for AP? Seriously, how many draft picks do we give to say.....Tampa Bay for the 4th pick in the draft?

You'd have to give up more than he's worth on paper....and for an injury prone player his value is rather high. :)

[broncs2bowl]

I would only support this if we addressed D-line through free agency(aka: Kerney and Sands) If we addressed the D-line I would LOVE having AP for us. We could easily be the best team. I wouldnt even mind giving up 1st 2nd and 3rd plus TBell and maybe even PLummer to add in for him!

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Serious in that it takes a while to heal, not serious in that most strapping young lads tend to get them...Besides if you see the play he broke it on, you can't tell he just landed funny. The point is that it is a fairly common injury even for us non-athletic folk and far from career threatening.
What? I highly doubt most people break their shoulder. This isn't good news for a RB and I never heard of a bone becoming stronger because it was broken. More than likely it hadn't finished ossification and still may haven't. It takes some people into their early 20's before it does.

[broncs2bowl]

Hey guys do you think we will adress the dline via FA or draft

[elsid13]

Hey guys do you think we will adress the dline via FA or draft

Both, I expect you will see Shanahan attempt to add depth to team to prepare it for next 3 year of playoff runs.

[Paladin]

Hey guys do you think we will adress the dline via FA or draft

FA

[SureShot]

I'm not a doctor, but isn't the collar bone regarded as one of, if not the weakest bone to the human body?

Big deal.

[Broncojef]

AP's career will not be defined by a collar bone break in college. He will be an awesome NFL player for years to come. Those flagging the injury simply don't want us to draft a RB in the first round and have a DL agenda.

[Orange_Beard]

Smoke and Mirrors.

[Elway777]

Unless the Broncos do a Ricky Williams trade where we trade all our draft to move up in the draft ,I don't see it happening.

[2KBack]

Scaredy cat.

There are few real weaknesses on this team now. You can pound on the Dline all you want, but they did pretty darn well for a team unit that was as much maligned as this one was. Could they have been better? Sure, and a lot of the "voices" hereon decried the scheme as much as the players themselves.

Team sport, yes. But I don't see that he Broncos need a hella lot of new members right now. Why not go for the best? I have no idea what it would take to get him or where they would need to go to get him, but I would say that if her were there around 8-10, Shanahan jumps big time.

That move would make the Broncos instant contenders, no sh*t. That's what I want the Broncos to be. :thumbs:


I am am one of the people that claimed that the scheme was more of the problem than the talent. Still, there is a reason I don't work for an NFL team. Some important elements on the defensive side could see a possible decline next season. Lynch is playing well, but there's no telling when he's going to hit a wall, and we don't exactly have studs waiting in the wings. We have one solid at the best DT. Al took a dip last year, maybe he can bounce back, or maybe he's on the decline. This team needs a lot of players in my eyes, not one. By packaging a bunch of draft picks you are missing out on adding youthful depth, and maybe some real quality players. Not to mention that Denver still has the best history of finding running backs at reasonable prices.

[Paladin]

I am am one of the people that claimed that the scheme was more of the problem than the talent. Still, there is a reason I don't work for an NFL team. Some important elements on the defensive side could see a possible decline next season. Lynch is playing well, but there's no telling when he's going to hit a wall, and we don't exactly have studs waiting in the wings. We have one solid at the best DT. Al took a dip last year, maybe he can bounce back, or maybe he's on the decline. This team needs a lot of players in my eyes, not one. By packaging a bunch of draft picks you are missing out on adding youthful depth, and maybe some real quality players. Not to mention that Denver still has the best history of finding running backs at reasonable prices.

I am told by "Those Who Know" that there is a plethora of talent to be had in the first three rounds of this draft. A S is certainly a consideration, but there are some of those around, too.

I am not denying that the "SAVE THE PICKS; DRAFT DLINE" stuff doesn't have a kernel of truth behind it, but then I also think that a decent Dline can be had in the FA and also in a later picks as well. Further, TWK tell me that there are some guys who might be "good values" in the fifth and later rounds as well. Last year the FO blows out two ones and something else to get a shot at Cutler. Most were somewhat disappointed in that pick, even if they don't admit it now. But I believe it was a gutsy move, and will be a winner for many years to come. I am just saying that there is a philosophy that suggests that you go for the better players and fill in with others. The Pats do that all the time. Denver is not that far away. You are not rebuilding the entire Dline. We will lknow more of the Broncos' plans when the FA period is opened.

So it becomes a question of whether you take your shot at greatness or sit on your picks and hope to get somebody good, depending on who falls to you. I'd whole lot rather go for what I want, rather wait and let some pother teams dictate to me who is my potential pick.

[SoCalBronco]

Browns desperate to draft Peterson
According to John McClain of the Houston Chronicle, someone "well-connected" with the Browns has convinced him that they want Adrian Peterson desperately.

We are still a long way from the draft and this could be a smokescreen, but the top of the draft is starting to take shape. The Raiders are rumored to want JaMarcus Russell, the Lions - Joe Thomas and now the Browns - Peterson.

http://www.footballsfuture.com/news/2007/02/browns-desperate-to-draft-peterson.html

[ol number 7]

i think clevelands pick early in the third is very probable for him....if they took him with 35 theyd be crazy

Maybe give Jake to Cleveland and swap spots with them to get a shot at AP

[The Moops]

Just trade for the Bears Adrian Peterson. Cheaper.

[chaz]

What? I highly doubt most people break their shoulder. This isn't good news for a RB and I never heard of a bone becoming stronger because it was broken. More than likely it hadn't finished ossification and still may haven't. It takes some people into their early 20's before it does.

Well then you are living under a rock. It is common knowledge that a broken bone heals stronger than ever. It is ligament, cartilage and tendon injuries you have to watch out for...not bones.

[chaz]

I am am one of the people that claimed that the scheme was more of the problem than the talent. Still, there is a reason I don't work for an NFL team. Some important elements on the defensive side could see a possible decline next season. Lynch is playing well, but there's no telling when he's going to hit a wall, and we don't exactly have studs waiting in the wings. We have one solid at the best DT. Al took a dip last year, maybe he can bounce back, or maybe he's on the decline. This team needs a lot of players in my eyes, not one. By packaging a bunch of draft picks you are missing out on adding youthful depth, and maybe some real quality players. Not to mention that Denver still has the best history of finding running backs at reasonable prices.

i think this is the logic the broncos will be using...there is no way mike shanahan gives up an entire year's worth of youth for one player. as much as all of us would do it there is no way he would.

[chaz]

Maybe give Jake to Cleveland and swap spots with them to get a shot at AP

huh...? i was talking about troy smith...there is no way jake plummer moves us from 21 to 3 in the first round if thats what you're thinking...

[chaz]

Just trade for the Bears Adrian Peterson. Cheaper.

i've been thinking about him too...he always looked sharp to me whenever he got a chance in chicago, but he was piled behind jones and benson this year. he would be an intreaguing pickup

[watermock]

I am told by "Those Who Know" that there is a plethora of talent to be had in the first three rounds of this draft. A S is certainly a consideration, but there are some of those around, too.

I am not denying that the "SAVE THE PICKS; DRAFT DLINE" stuff doesn't have a kernel of truth behind it, but then I also think that a decent Dline can be had in the FA and also in a later picks as well. Further, TWK tell me that there are some guys who might be "good values" in the fifth and later rounds as well. Last year the FO blows out two ones and something else to get a shot at Cutler. Most were somewhat disappointed in that pick, even if they don't admit it now. But I believe it was a gutsy move, and will be a winner for many years to come. I am just saying that there is a philosophy that suggests that you go for the better players and fill in with others. The Pats do that all the time. Denver is not that far away. You are not rebuilding the entire Dline. We will lknow more of the Broncos' plans when the FA period is opened.

So it becomes a question of whether you take your shot at greatness or sit on your picks and hope to get somebody good, depending on who falls to you. I'd whole lot rather go for what I want, rather wait and let some pother teams dictate to me who is my potential pick.

Denver didn't "blow out" two firsts for Cutler. We still got TWO seconds and used on on Walker, a polished pro, and Scheff. Not only that, We have what...5 picks in the first day? 1,2 and 3 Thirds if I remember right. This is before possible draft day trades for Cutler and maybe Foster or Tater Tot. We don't need a bevy of picks, we need quality players at this point in time. I would love to have AP but the price would be higher than Cutler. Lynch has character issues and just might drop to us. I just liked how we didn't have much drama with behavior, DWill aside...we don't know what really happened there...looks like it was just a drive by for glory...dunno why tho...anyway...Lynch has some character issues.

How Denver managed to move from 29 all the way to what I considered a top 10 pick without sacrificing the draft last year or this is astounding.

We have enough picks to dance a little if we can find a sucker.

[azbroncfan]

Maybe give Jake to Cleveland and swap spots with them to get a shot at AP

and give me whatever you are smoking to think that Jake and 21 will get you to 3 or 4.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Just heard Kiper talk about it. On one hand he rhetorically asked how great Peterson would look with Cutler in the backfield, then in the next sentence said that Denver was too far back to trade up for him.

Much ado about nothing at this point.

[Dukes]

Anyone think we go after Dominic Rhodes?

[usedupbraids]

hes a bust trust me.

[usedupbraids]

Anyone think we go after Dominic Rhodes?

we should go after the guy that backs up L.T from the Charger i forget his name.:approve:

[MechanicalBull]

I'm not a doctor, but isn't the collar bone regarded as one of, if not the weakest bone to the human body?

Big deal.

I'm not sure either but I would consult with Charles Rogers to try and find out.

Eventhough I would love to have an elite player from this draft, but put me in the boat with the same people that say we would have to give up a king's ransom and very unrealistic chance to get peterson.

[Cito Pelon]

I like the idea of a superb tailback on the roster. I don't think it's a priority right now though when the team needs new starters at OG, OT, C, DE, LB, S.

Maybe a superb tailback would help a lot, but I think if the passing game can make a leap next year, then the MB/TB/Cobbs/whomever can contribute enough. I think the first day of the draft and FA should be devoted to shoring up the lines, LB, and safety. RB will have to wait.

Maybe the team has some players already on the roster that can be better starters on the OL and DL - Peterson, Gordon, Burton, Kuper, Meyers, Eslinger, Pears, Meadows. Maybe the team has better safeties on the roster ready to start. I don't think they do. Maybe the team has better LB's on the roster ready to start. I don't think so. Tailback seems to me is a lower priority right now.

[Broncojef]

Couldn't disagree more. RB is the major missing piece right now. Shanny found a way to have an awesome draft through brilliant trades and still target Cutler. We have alot of guys we could trade and good ammunition the first day. I bet we see more huge trades that set us up for the next leap if we are to get AD. If Shanny wants him he'll get him and probably have enough ammo to grab a couple other late day picks as well. This time last year no one could have seen the brilliant trades we pulled off and looking back I still can't believe it. That being said if Cleveland is dead set on drafting AD we probably can't touch him. I could see deals with the Deadskins and the Texans though.

[SureShot]

I'm not sure either but I would consult with Charles Rogers to try and find out.

:spit:

I think his collar bone is the least of his worries.

[chaz]

hes a bust trust me.

you obviously have no idea what you're talking about. i have yet to hear anyone question how dominant he will be at the next level. the only question is injuries and even those are sketchy b/c of the type of injuries he's had. you have absolutely nothing to base that statement on.

[fontaine]

Those breaks grow back stronger...not that big of a deal...

Tell that to Charles Rogers. Didn't he break his collar bone two years running?

[SoonerBronco]

Tell that to Charles Rogers. Didn't he break his collar bone two years running?


If it heals correctly, it won't in the same place...which is the case with Rogers...nice try though.

[fontaine]

If it heals correctly, it won't in the same place...which is the case with Rogers...nice try though.

:~ohyah!:

Hey I'm on board for drafting a RB high, just not sure if AP is worth all we'll have to trade to move up and grab him. Every year there are backs taken outside the 1st round that end up as premier backs. I'm confident that Turner/Shanahan will find that guy. Sometimes it works out and we draft the kid (Portis) sometimes it doesn't (Dominick Davis, Maroney, Drew Jones) etc.

I have no way of verifying this but I gotta believe between Shanahan/Turner, their pride has been hurting since the MoClo fiasco. I'm sure people around the league got a good chuckle out of MoClo working out with his grey goose in Dove Valley. Kind of explains why they were so desperate to draft Maroney (to even try and get back in the 1st for a RB?), and I believe it's not out of the question for the FO to try and hit a homerun at RB this year to make a statement and bury the MoClo debacle.

[SoonerBronco]

:~ohyah!:

Hey I'm on board for drafting a RB high, just not sure if AP is worth all we'll have to trade to move up and grab him. Every year there are backs taken outside the 1st round that end up as premier backs. I'm confident that Turner/Shanahan will find that guy. Sometimes it works out and we draft the kid (Portis) sometimes it doesn't (Dominick Davis, Maroney, Drew Jones) etc.

I have no way of verifying this but I gotta believe between Shanahan/Turner, their pride has been hurting since the MoClo fiasco. I'm sure people around the league got a good chuckle out of MoClo working out with his grey goose in Dove Valley. Kind of explains why they were so desperate to draft Maroney (to even try and get back in the 1st for a RB?), and I believe it's not out of the question for the FO to try and hit a homerun at RB this year to make a statement and bury the MoClo debacle.

No worries fontaine...I, along with llama, just sick of hearing the "he's gonna be hurt all the time" drama. I agree with you, I think they are hurting from the Maurice Clarett debacle. I would love to have Peterson in Denver. I am spoiled that I have had the pleasure of seeing every game this guy has played. I was sitting in the end zone when he scored his first TD at OU.

With that being said, how do we get up high enough to get him? I think the obvious is selling the farm, but I really don't think that will happen. I think that Shanny and Sundquist are pretty savvy at making a deal. Last year we ended up getting Jay in the first, Javon, and keeping quite a few picks in the rest of the draft. I am sure, if Shanny wants him, they are working like crazy to try to get him.

[Florida_Bronco]

you obviously have no idea what you're talking about. i have yet to hear anyone question how dominant he will be at the next level. the only question is injuries and even those are sketchy b/c of the type of injuries he's had. you have absolutely nothing to base that statement on.

He has as much of a chance of being a bust as he does an impact player.

[Garcia Bronco]

IP is overrated and injury prone. OU has been overrated for the past 4 seasons.

[chaz]

He has as much of a chance of being a bust as he does an impact player.

not true. You dont draft someone in the top 10 if their chances of success are 50-50. Granted there are top 10 picks that dont work out, for whatever reason (usually injuries or work ethic), but its not 50-50. He broke a bone and sprained an ankle...oh dear god relax people...from everything i've heard he is very motivated and works harder than anyone. so i dont see why people see him as a bust.

[Garcia Bronco]

not true. You dont draft someone in the top 10 if their chances of success are 50-50. Granted there are top 10 picks that dont work out, for whatever reason (usually injuries or work ethic), but its not 50-50. He broke a bone and sprained an ankle...oh dear god relax people...from everything i've heard he is very motivated and works harder than anyone. so i dont see why people see him as a bust.

I hate to tell you this but he has as much chance of being an injury prone bust as being a productive player. With out counting or looking I would say he almost missed as many games as he played in college.

[SoonerBronco]

I hate to tell you this but he has as much chance of being an injury prone bust as being a productive player. With out counting or looking I would say he almost missed as many games as he played in college. AND he didn't play at Virginia Tech, so he's got to be a bust!


Fixed it for you Garcia...:~ohyah!:

[Garcia Bronco]

Lol

[SoonerBronco]

Edit: I really don't have time to screw with it...:afro:

[Garcia Bronco]

Now showing...a picture tribute to AD...

http://www.redraiders.com/images/100304/6727_512.jpg

http://www.adrian-peterson.com/adrian-peterson-isu-8.jpg

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It is fitting that 3 come up as red x's...:D

[SoonerBronco]

It is fitting that 3 come up as red x's...:D


Well Crap!:thumbs:

[Garcia Bronco]

:)

[Florida_Bronco]

not true. You dont draft someone in the top 10 if their chances of success are 50-50. Granted there are top 10 picks that dont work out, for whatever reason (usually injuries or work ethic), but its not 50-50. He broke a bone and sprained an ankle...oh dear god relax people...from everything i've heard he is very motivated and works harder than anyone. so i dont see why people see him as a bust.

If you go back and break down the top 10 picks from drafts past, I bet you'd see about a 50-50 hit/miss rate.

[Cito Pelon]

Couldn't disagree more. RB is the major missing piece right now. Shanny found a way to have an awesome draft through brilliant trades and still target Cutler. We have alot of guys we could trade and good ammunition the first day. I bet we see more huge trades that set us up for the next leap if we are to get AD. If Shanny wants him he'll get him and probably have enough ammo to grab a couple other late day picks as well. This time last year no one could have seen the brilliant trades we pulled off and looking back I still can't believe it. That being said if Cleveland is dead set on drafting AD we probably can't touch him. I could see deals with the Deadskins and the Texans though.

What about the D though? Don't you think the D could use a first and second rounder? I think the D needs a lot of help, as well as the OL. I wonder how much of an impact a super tailback will have if the OL can't make holes consistently.

[maher_tyler]

I've seen him in every game he's played in his college career, and he's one of those players that comes along once in a generation as far as raw talent and ability goes. He's abnormally strong, has a furious competitive streak, is abnormally fast, abnormally agile, has great leadership abilities, gets along with his coaches well, is a marketable personality and has a total athletic package that translates into something that is awe-inspiring while on TV. He's a highight reel like Bo Jackson was. A cannonball.

If his combine is as good as I think it can be, I could see the Radiers grabbing him. I think that Cleveland at #3 is probably more likely though, and is more likely than Houston at #8

The raiders need a QB a lot more than they do a RB!!

[Broncojef]

What about the D though? Don't you think the D could use a first and second rounder? I think the D needs a lot of help, as well as the OL. I wonder how much of an impact a super tailback will have if the OL can't make holes consistently.

If Shanny doesn't upgrade the RB spot we'd better grab one tough D cause they will be on the field alot this year. I'm OK drafting totally "D", but in that case I'd do the following...sign Kerney and Samuels...draft a top notch Safety and a couple stud DTs like Pitcock and Mebane. pray like hell Shanny can find someone late in the draft to help the RBBC. I really think Shanny is as sick of the running game at this point as some of the rest of us are. A stud RB alleviates pressure on Jay and keeps that "D" on the sidelines, controlling the lead in fourth quarters.

[azbroncfan]

If Shanny doesn't upgrade the RB spot we'd better grab one tough D cause they will be on the field alot this year. I'm OK drafting totally "D", but in that case I'd do the following...sign Kerney and Samuels...draft a top notch Safety and a couple stud DTs like Pitcock and Mebane. pray like hell Shanny can find someone late in the draft to help the RBBC. I really think Shanny is as sick of the running game at this point as some of the rest of us are. A stud RB alleviates pressure on Jay and keeps that "D" on the sidelines, controlling the lead in fourth quarters.



I agree that the running game is a definate upgade needed. Now I wouldn't reach on a back but if a Lynch falls to 21 or Bush to 2nd take them other wise go D. I think Denver needs to get the offense up to where they can score around 30 a game. RB and DL, S is what I want to see addressed this year and even OL possibly.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

What about the D though? Don't you think the D could use a first and second rounder? I think the D needs a lot of help, as well as the OL. I wonder how much of an impact a super tailback will have if the OL can't make holes consistently.

In his EOY press conference, Shanahan mentioned only the running game as needing an upgrade.

[chaz]

In his EOY press conference, Shanahan mentioned only the running game as needing an upgrade.

this is what has peaked my interest in what will happen this year...he seemed very focused on getting that main guy. we'll see.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug View Post
What? I highly doubt most people break their shoulder. This isn't good news for a RB and I never heard of a bone becoming stronger because it was broken. More than likely it hadn't finished ossification and still may haven't. It takes some people into their early 20's before it does.

Well then you are living under a rock. It is common knowledge that a broken bone heals stronger than ever. It is ligament, cartilage and tendon injuries you have to watch out for...not bones.

Ha! Did you learn this in medical school?


Myth No. 6 (http://www.intelihealth.com/IH/ihtIH/WSIHW000/35320/35323/443299.html?d=dmtHMSContent#6): A broken bone heals stronger than it was before the break.

[c_lazy_r]

I agree that the running game is a definate upgade needed. Now I wouldn't reach on a back but if a Lynch falls to 21 or Bush to 2nd take them other wise go D. I think Denver needs to get the offense up to where they can score around 30 a game. RB and DL, S is what I want to see addressed this year and even OL possibly.


This is the guy that is feasible and going to end up being a monster. IMO, anyway.

[Dukes]

This is the guy that is feasible and going to end up being a monster. IMO, anyway.

Your not the only one thinking that. I'd love to snag Bush in the 2nd. Even if we had to move up from #56 a few spots

[chaz]

does anyone know where to find any video of bush? i cant find any anywhere and wanted to brush up on him....

[watermock]

My collarbone is much thicker after I got a fracture on the field...I know it hurt like hell...I don't know if it's stronger, but it's much thicker.

[watermock]

I think it would be foolish to shase a ghost with AD....better to move for Lynch or hope Pittman falls to our second round.

We can't afford to throw away picks for primad donnas and ruin an allready precarious cap.

[chaz]

when you break a bone your body focuses its calcium supply on that bone first and foremost, not to mention you most likely are taking in more calcium than usual as a conscious effort to heal quicker....therefore the bone will overall become stronger. so just because its not just because it broke, doesnt mean it wont be stronger than before.

[Mr. Trout]

I think it would be foolish to shase a ghost with AD....better to move for Lynch or hope Pittman falls to our second round.

We can't afford to throw away picks for primad donnas and ruin an allready precarious cap.

AD is not a prima donna...and Marshawn Lynch looks like the next big flava clown.

[broncogary]

My collarbone is much thicker after I got a fracture on the field...I know it hurt like hell...I don't know if it's stronger, but it's much thicker.

Did you break your head chasing Beezer? :wiggle:

[SoonerBronco]

I think it would be foolish to shase a ghost with AD....better to move for Lynch or hope Pittman falls to our second round.

We can't afford to throw away picks for primad donnas and ruin an allready precarious cap.



Lynch has the character issues not AD...Although, I do hear he likes to help cats who need a home....

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