32 team cap space.

[HEAV]

http://www.sptimes.com/2007/01/26/Bucs/For_Bucs__it_s_buyer_.shtml


Cap money available

1. San Francisco $42.1M

2. Buffalo $39.7M

3. Arizona $36.7M

4. Tennessee $36M

5. Cleveland $33.3M

6. Minnesota $32.4M

7. (tie)Jacksonville $32M

7. St. Louis $32M

9. New England $30.4M

10. Cincinnati $30.2M

11. New Orleans $29.9M

12. Green Bay $29.5M

13. New York Jets $26.1M

14. San Diego $24.6M

15. Tampa Bay $24.2M

16. Detroit $23.8M

17. Chicago $23.4M

18. Seattle $22.5M

19. Dallas $21.5M

20. Miami $17.8M

21. New York Giants $15.7M

22. Oakland $14.1M

23. Houston $13.3M

24. Atlanta $10M

25. Philadelphia $12.4M

26. Denver $7.6M

27. Kansas City $7M

28. Baltimore $5.7M

29. Indianapolis $4.9M

30. Carolina $3.4M

31. Washington $951,000

32. Pittsburgh $150,000

[Kaylore]

So I guess the Niners have finally bled off that cap space that they were over!

I did some calculations and the league average for cap room is 21 million. That's pretty crazy. Salary inflation is going to blow up during this free agency period.

Of course it will not be that way all over. You'll probably see teams like New England sign no one to help their team even when they can, and the you'll see Washington, despite their sliver of room, sign all the "big name" free agents in the first four days of free agency to 10-20 million dollar contracts - mostly guaranteed. They'll still suck, though. Ha!

[Steve Sewell]

Salary inflation is going to blow up during this free agency period.

Yeah I have a feeling that SF is going to be a contender next year, and that the balance of power as it is now is going to change a whole lot. There are some teams with some MAD cap space, and if they sign well they will become contenders overnight.

[Steve Sewell]

What's great is that I see a bunch of holdouts in San Diego when they see their teams cap number!

[Hotrod]

The top 7-10 teams are very interesting. Some are just a few nice pickups and a good draft away from really being scary.

The way everyone around here was talking I thought we were in better shape? Does the 7mil even take into consideration Jakes hit whatever that may be?

[HEAV]

Just becuase teams have space doesn't mean they will spend. I'm sure some owners want more profit from their teams.

Like smaller market teams like Buffalo and Cleveland. Teams have to be under caps. I think there is a rule that a team only has to spend a certain percentage of the cap.

I guess it depends on the owner and how full he wants his pockets.

[Hotrod]

Pitt Ha! they dont have enough room to buy a crappy house. Who are they going to set free???

I guess you would need to see all of those teams FA's before seeing the whole picuture no???

[Kaylore]

The top 7-10 teams are very interesting. Some are just a few nice pickups and a good draft away from really being scary.
I agree.


1. San Francisco $42.1M

2. Buffalo $39.7M

3. Arizona $36.7M

4. Tennessee $36M

5. Cleveland $33.3M

6. Minnesota $32.4M

7. (tie)Jacksonville $32M

7. St. Louis $32M

9. New England $30.4M

10. Cincinnati $30.2M

11. New Orleans $29.9M

12. Green Bay $29.5M

13. New York Jets $26.1M

All these teams have enough as is to contend. However a lot of those teams just don't spend. The Patriots pay no one and leave Brady with Reche Caldwell. The Bidwells? Please. Buffalo is kind of a question mark with their front office under Levy. The Packers seem reluctant to spend. However the rest are all teams that could make a move or two and really help themselves.

I think I was a year early with my prediction that the NFC West would come back strong this last season. I can at least pat myself on the back for seeing it in the works; They just needed a little more time.

And I hope Dan Snyder pays Dwight Freeney eleventy Billion dollars.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Need a list to see how many guys each team has signed to see where they are really at, and who they currently have that's a free agent. The list is skewed a bit without it, but the deals that are going to be signed this offseason are going to dwarf the deals of previous seasons.

[Rohirrim]

I take it the Broncos could restructure some contracts (Smith) and add to that figure?

Edit: I guess it's time to flush the idea that any big time FAs (Asante, Smith, etc.) are coming to Denver.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Edit: I guess it's time to flush the idea that any big time FAs (Asante, Smith, etc.) are coming to Denver.

Or a big time DL.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

I take it the Broncos could restructure some contracts (Smith) and add to that figure?


The other thing that can help is the structure of Walker's roster bonus. If it's unguaranteed, it all counts this year as of now. Simply guaranteeing it would prorate it out. If it's a guaranteed bonus, then it's already been prorated and then they couldn't do anything with it.

[fontaine]

Need a list to see how many guys each team has signed to see where they are really at, and who they currently have that's a free agent. The list is skewed a bit without it, but the deals that are going to be signed this offseason are going to dwarf the deals of previous seasons.


http://www.draftdaddy.com/teams/nav/nfl.cfm

Lists FA by team. It's not exactly in the format that's easy to view (you have to click on each team), but it gives you all the FAs, RFA per team.

Denver has 70 guys under contract that makes up our current salary cap.

I've checked and Denver is mostly the exception. The majority of teams have far more FAs than Denver who really only has Coop/Myers.

[bpc]

We just need to find a way to bring in Justin Smith and Daniel Graham. That would be a win in FA to me. Then we can focus on Myers if we choose... after that with the money we have left over try to bring in a vet runner and get ready for the draft.

[Requiem]

Like someone up said, a lot of those guys with the 20+ million have a lot of free agents and not 70 people signed to our roster like us. We'll be fine. Once Jake is off the books and Rod retires; that'll be more money for us.

[Dudeskey]

So I guess the Niners have finally bled off that cap space that they were over!



No, York is just a cheap son of a bitch

[ro_50]

I can see the Saints going after A. Samuel from the Pats.

They need a cornerback.

[400HZ]

Ironically, I think a lot of those teams with big cap space are gonna screw themselves over longterm by bringing in FAs this year. Things are gonna be completely f'ed up this year with all the money that teams have to throw around. Everybody will be getting way overpaid this year, but things will settle back down in a few years. Teams that were active this year are gonna be stuck with big contracts for average players.

[Garcia Bronco]

Ironically, I think a lot of those teams with big cap space are gonna screw themselves over longterm by bringing in FAs this year. Things are gonna be completely f'ed up this year with all the money that teams have to throw around. Everybody will be getting way overpaid this year, but things will settle back down in a few years. Teams that were active this year are gonna be stuck with big contracts for average players.

I agree

[watermock]

Like someone up said, a lot of those guys with the 20+ million have a lot of free agents and not 70 people signed to our roster like us. We'll be fine. Once Jake is off the books and Rod retires; that'll be more money for us.

I was going to bring that up also Req, and also, tho it won't be a ton of $ from bottom feeders, that will free up a little as well. Tenn has 14 FA and lacks talent all around.

I'm not sure I want to restructure Rods salary into SB again...I'm afraid it's time to talk real with him, unfortunately, we all knew it wouldn't last forever. Something around 3 million seems a bit more reasonable. Maybe we move some more to SB of that. Don't shoot me...if Rod wasn't so well respected many teams with our cap tightness would just cut line. I shudder to think what the cap hit would be if he gets restructured yet again.

[Inkana7]

I can see the Saints going after A. Samuel from the Pats.

They need a cornerback.

Fred Thomas is possibly the worst starting cornerback I've ever seen.

[Hotrod]

Fred Thomas is possibly the worst starting cornerback I've ever seen.

You've never seen Roc Alexander have you

[55CrushEm]

Fred Thomas is possibly the worst starting cornerback I've ever seen.

Nah.....I'd give that award to Lenny Walls.

[Antilles]

Ironically, I think a lot of those teams with big cap space are gonna screw themselves over longterm by bringing in FAs this year. Things are gonna be completely f'ed up this year with all the money that teams have to throw around. Everybody will be getting way overpaid this year, but things will settle back down in a few years. Teams that were active this year are gonna be stuck with big contracts for average players.

Also watch for an increase in the number of hold outs when young, underpaid stars see the kind of jack that some of these mediocre FA will receive.

[watermock]

Our team is essentially signed. Samuel is good, but he wants his bling. He's going to the highest bidder mercenary style. I'm sure we will inquire, but he's got to be salivating with some teams laying on pots of gold.

[cutthemdown]

Most of those teams won't spend that cap money. There isn't enough good FA to suck that money up people.

[Rohirrim]

Our team is essentially signed. Samuel is good, but he wants his bling. He's going to the highest bidder mercenary style. I'm sure we will inquire, but he's got to be salivating with some teams laying on pots of gold.

There are some teams out there, like the NJ Giants, who really have no choice. Their pass defense was something like 28th. Their corners suck. They've got to either foot the bill or lose games. My point being, that some teams will be desperate for Asante-type services and will be willing to pay more than the Broncos would. Face it, Asante in Denver would be a luxury, while a good DT/DE isn't.

[Broncos24]

We just need to find a way to bring in Justin Smith and Daniel Graham. That would be a win in FA to me. Then we can focus on Myers if we choose... after that with the money we have left over try to bring in a vet runner and get ready for the draft.


I agree if we can just sign Graham and Justin Smith and have a good draft then we're set for the 2007 season.

[rugbythug]

Looks like a good year to skip FA. Maybe get a cheapo here and there and concentrate on the draft. Overpaying for guys is never a good Idea.

[Kaylore]

Ironically, I think a lot of those teams with big cap space are gonna screw themselves over longterm by bringing in FAs this year. Things are gonna be completely f'ed up this year with all the money that teams have to throw around. Everybody will be getting way overpaid this year, but things will settle back down in a few years. Teams that were active this year are gonna be stuck with big contracts for average players.

Why? The cap will be even higher next year. It goes up, not down. The "big contracts" will be the norm in three years if the owners decide to renew the collective bargaining agreement next year. This isn't some anomalous year where a bunch of teams just happen to have have money. This is a real increase in money available for players and you'll see salaries across the board go up.

[-Slap-]

There are some teams out there, like the NJ Giants, who really have no choice. Their pass defense was something like 28th. Their corners suck.

You must be mistaken. The Giants have Strahan, Umenyiora, Kiwanuka, Robbins, Tuck, etc on their defensive line.

Orange Mane Football 101 clearly states it doesn't matter who you line up at cornerback as long as you have a deep and talented defensive line.

[-Slap-]

Why? The cap will be even higher next year. It goes up, not down. The "big contracts" will be the norm in three years if the owners decide to renew the collective bargaining agreement next year. This isn't some anomalous year where a bunch of teams just happen to have have money. This is a real increase in money available for players and you'll see salaries across the board go up.

Exactly. Does anyone think the star players on every team in the League are unaware there's going to be extra money available? Their agents are going to be playing the take-care-of-your-own card all summer.

[cutthemdown]

you can't overpay too much for people. You can offer it all upfront in a bonus but you risk alienating players already on the team if you go crazy like skins do. Broncos will throw about 15 million in bonuses to FA IMO. That will grab 1 really good player and a couple role players.

[Cito Pelon]

Denver's FO has f'd this one up. A roster full of marginal players, and all signed for the next few years. That's great. It's gonna be a few years before Denver is a real contender again. Minimum of three years, probably five years or more.

[Kaylore]

Denver's FO has f'd this one up. A roster full of marginal players, and all signed for the next few years. That's great. It's gonna be a few years before Denver is a real contender again. Minimum of three years, probably five years or more.

LOL

[Cito Pelon]

LOL

Was that agreement or dispute?

[Kaylore]

Was that agreement or dispute?

There isn't any team in history that has screwed their cap so bad they were ruined for "minimum three years, probably five years." Honestly that might be the dumbest thing I've seen you write.

[cutthemdown]

Denver's FO has f'd this one up. A roster full of marginal players, and all signed for the next few years. That's great. It's gonna be a few years before Denver is a real contender again. Minimum of three years, probably five years or more.

5 yrs is a long time. I would think even the worst possible situation a team could be in could be solved in less the 3-5 yrs. You can really change the face of a roster in 3 yrs. Broncos however aren't in as dire straights as you set forth. The Broncos need 3-4 more good players. Maybe a safety, dlineman, running back and they will be contending like always.

[Kaylore]

5 yrs is a long time. I would think even the worst possible situation a team could be in could be solved in less the 3-5 yrs. You can really change the face of a roster in 3 yrs. Broncos however aren't in as dire straights as you set forth. The Broncos need 3-4 more good players. Maybe a safety, dlineman, running back and they will be contending like always.

Yeah at the end of 2004 the Titans were 27 million over the cap and now they are one of the teams with the most room only two years later. We're 7 million under and Cito has us ruined for 4 years. Duuurrrrr.:hitself:

[Cito Pelon]

There isn't any team in history that has screwed their cap so bad they were ruined for "minimum three years, probably five years." Honestly that might be the dumbest thing I've seen you write.

None?

Cap, roster, and staff for the Broncs are all in bad shape right now. Three years minimum to win an AFC Title, probably five years, or more.

[Kaylore]

None?

Cap, roster, and staff for the Broncs are all in bad shape right now. Three years minimum to win an AFC Title, probably five years, or more.

LOL So should I take up stamp collecting in the mean time to tie me over until 2012? The Broncos have never been in terrible shape, are currently under the cap and there isn't anything in history to back up what you are saying, but rock on Cito. You go with that doom and gloom's day prediction stuff.

[Cito Pelon]

5 yrs is a long time. I would think even the worst possible situation a team could be in could be solved in less the 3-5 yrs. You can really change the face of a roster in 3 yrs. Broncos however aren't in as dire straights as you set forth. The Broncos need 3-4 more good players. Maybe a safety, dlineman, running back and they will be contending like always.

The Broncos need a lot of new starters. All three LB's, both safeties, two new OG's, both OT's, a center, at least one TE, 4 new DL starters.

And what was this I heard about Pat McPherson and Steve Watson switching jobs? The QB coach becomes the WR coach, and the WR coach becomes the QB coach? I don't see how that's gonna work out.

The team can contend for a Div Title, sure, but for an AFC Title? No way, sorry. I don't see any playoff wins for at least three years.

[DivineLegion]

considering our free agents were not realy in that bad of shape...including restructured contracts we have room to go after a free agent or two...

[Cito Pelon]

Yeah at the end of 2004 the Titans were 27 million over the cap and now they are one of the teams with the most room only two years later. We're 7 million under and Cito has us ruined for 4 years. Duuurrrrr.:hitself:

Hah! The Titans had to revamp their roster to get to the point they are now, right? So that example of yours point to the Broncs having to revamp the roster.

That "Durrrr" and the hammer-thingy was pretty funny. Seriously, good combo.

[Cito Pelon]

LOL So should I take up stamp collecting in the mean time to tie me over until 2012? The Broncos have never been in terrible shape, are currently under the cap and there isn't anything in history to back up what you are saying, but rock on Cito. You go with that doom and gloom's day prediction stuff.

With all due respect, my friend, do whatever you like to get your marbles rolling for the next few years. I think the Broncos will be teasing you like a honky-tonk floozy for the next three years, at least.

[Bronco Billy]

Denver's FO has f'd this one up. A roster full of marginal players, and all signed for the next few years. That's great. It's gonna be a few years before Denver is a real contender again. Minimum of three years, probably five years or more.

Come on, didn't you watch the '98 Broncos on NFL network! Eight of their eleven starters on offense were 6th round picks or lower, or they were players dropped from another team! We're right where we want to be! :clown: All we need to do now is go garbage picking off the other teams!

[cutthemdown]

The Broncos need a lot of new starters. All three LB's, both safeties, two new OG's, both OT's, a center, at least one TE, 4 new DL starters.

And what was this I heard about Pat McPherson and Steve Watson switching jobs? The QB coach becomes the WR coach, and the WR coach becomes the QB coach? I don't see how that's gonna work out.

The team can contend for a Div Title, sure, but for an AFC Title? No way, sorry. I don't see any playoff wins for at least three years.

Broncos won't have to replace all 3 linebackers. They should probably draft a middle linebacker however because Wilson is close to done. Hamilton is a good guard and is young. Carlisle is average I agree. Nalen played great so I don't see Broncos needing a new starting center just yet. Scheffler really looked good as a rookie late in the year so I see Broncos only needing a blocking TE which isn't too big a deal. On the Dline we are thin. Look for Broncos to have a couple new starters on the dline this yr. As far as the safties go Broncos also need help there I agree. I would draft a young one or bring in a vet this yr if I was them. So I agree with some of what you said I just don't see anything in NFL taking 3-5 yrs anymore.

[rubaiyat]

The Broncos need a lot of new starters. All three LB's, both safeties, two new OG's, both OT's, a center, at least one TE, 4 new DL starters.

And what was this I heard about Pat McPherson and Steve Watson switching jobs? The QB coach becomes the WR coach, and the WR coach becomes the QB coach? I don't see how that's gonna work out.

The team can contend for a Div Title, sure, but for an AFC Title? No way, sorry. I don't see any playoff wins for at least three years.



If you wanted to start an AFC Pro Bowl team...

Sure we can make upgrades at the positions listed, but I sincerely doubt it would be necessary to improve/insert fresh blood at ALL those positions to win an AFC championship. Or that we don't already have capable replacements already on the roster.

I agree about the 3 years thing, but that's simply the nature of the NFL. Freak injuries, bad luck, whatever can derail any championship level team...so it's not a profound prediction

[Steve Sewell]

Denver's FO has f'd this one up. A roster full of marginal players, and all signed for the next few years. That's great. It's gonna be a few years before Denver is a real contender again. Minimum of three years, probably five years or more.

I LOL'ed...

We went from having a general board consensus that Broncos were one or two players away from a SB at the end of last season to being "a roster full of marginal players, and all signed for the next few years" in a little less than a year.

[Steve Sewell]

The Broncos need a lot of new starters. All three LB's, both safeties, two new OG's, both OT's, a center, at least one TE, 4 new DL starters.

And what was this I heard about Pat McPherson and Steve Watson switching jobs? The QB coach becomes the WR coach, and the WR coach becomes the QB coach? I don't see how that's gonna work out.

The team can contend for a Div Title, sure, but for an AFC Title? No way, sorry. I don't see any playoff wins for at least three years.

To add to the reactionary foolishness of your previous post, you have all 3 linebackers needing to be replaced, when most NFL pundits and Bronco fans alike proclaimed them as one of the best linebacking units in the NFL.

I won't even get into the other positions...basically you are stating that the Broncos roster is populated by crappy players, which I don't accept.

[Jason in LA]

Need a list to see how many guys each team has signed to see where they are really at, and who they currently have that's a free agent. The list is skewed a bit without it, but the deals that are going to be signed this offseason are going to dwarf the deals of previous seasons.


This is very true. Some teams will have a lot of cap space because they had players under contract who's contract expired. Some of those teams will have big named players who they plan to resign, and that will take up a lot of their cap space. So those teams won't be able to go out and sign all the top free agents like it appears.

And there aren't going to be enough big time free agents to go around to everybody. So I wouldn't be worried about one team buying a title.

[Xenos]

What's great is that I see a bunch of holdouts in San Diego when they see their teams cap number!
The only holdout that I can see being major is Kris Dielman. Michael Turner is probably gonna be traded for a draft pick, or stay with us at least another year. And Shaun Phillips should be here for another year though I also see him being signed long term.

[400HZ]

What's great is that I see a bunch of holdouts in San Diego when they see their teams cap number!

SD did a whole bunch of front loaded contract extensions last offseason. Dielman might cost a lot to re-sign this year, but the money is there. Or we could let him walk and draft a replacement. The Chargers have all their picks minus the 6th rounder, and have an extra 3rd + whatever they get for Turner. That could easily be a low 1st or high 2nd. They have shown that they can consistantly develop good O linemen too, so I'm not too worried about Dielman. AJ Smith always find good talent in the draft.

Sorry to disappoint, but the cap situation in San Diego is gonna be great for at least the next few years. After that we'll probably have to let a few good players walk, but as long as AJ keeps drafting good we're golden. :)

[BroncoBuff]

Salary inflation is going to blow up during this free agency period.

Yeah ... we're not gonna be a player. Not enough money. Everybody wants Graham, Simth, Thomas, etc....


We'll be lucky to land Patrick Kerney and Deon Grant, and keep Mike Myers. Fortunately, they might be the exact guys we need.

[Jason in LA]

So when are all of these great moves going to produce a playoff win for the Chargers?

[400HZ]

So when are all of these great moves going to produce a playoff win for the Chargers?

Soon :thumbs:

[Killericon]

Boy, I tell you, I've read some pretty retarded **** on this here thread.

Apparantly, we need an entirely new offensive line(Lepsis and Hamilton suck balls), and we need 3 new linebackers because, and I actually read this, Wilson is close to done. Oh, and I also read that it'll be 5 years before we're, quote, "Real Contenders".

Wow.

By the way, I was just thinking about this...So, we're a mere 7.6 million under the cap, and that's with the increase, right?

How far over would we be if there hadn't been an increase? That is some scary ****.