Bates on the Cowboys Head Coach Shortlist

[Denver724]

John Clayton Reporting:

Two names that might be added to the list of candidates for the Cowboys head coaching job are Cardinals defensive coordinator Clancy Pendergast and Broncos assistant head coach Jim Bates. Both have coached in Dallas and know Jerry Jones. Bates gained valuable experience as an interim coach with the Dolphins and was a finalist for the Packers job a year ago. Pendergast would have been the interim coach in Arizona had Dennis Green stepped down during the bye week. Jerry and Stephen Jones spent Tuesday mapping out their plans for replacing Bill Parcells

[Dudeskey]

NOOOO!!! That means Slowik will solely be running the D... please don't go!!!

[Bronco LB 59]

****!

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Jerry Jones sure is a slimy piece of crap.

[BroncoInferno]

I doubt that will happen. Bates is a 4-3 coach and Jones apparently is pleased with the 3-4 and wants to keep that in place. You'd have to overhaul their personnel, too...I wouldn't worry too much about this.

[Dukes]

This is not good

[rovolution]

I doubt that will happen. Bates is a 4-3 coach and Jones apparently is pleased with the 3-4 and wants to keep that in place. You'd have to overhaul their personnel, too...I wouldn't worry too much about this.

Yea, but this is Jerry Jones here. The man will pay an sum of money to get what he wants. We havent even had a season w/ Bates.

Damn. I hope they keep TO so Bates becomes less attracted to the job.

[baja]

Say it ain't so...

[Clockwork Orange]

We hardly knew ya'.

[Killericon]

I heard that as soon as Parcells retired, Jon Gruden's agent called Jerry Jones.

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I doubt that will happen. Bates is a 4-3 coach and Jones apparently is pleased with the 3-4 and wants to keep that in place. You'd have to overhaul their personnel, too...I wouldn't worry too much about this.

I agree with you for the same reason (3-4), but it irritates me that Bates name is in the mix and it would piss me off if he interviews. No ill will towards him, he has to think about his career, especially at his age.

Now that the most duplicitous man George Young has ever met has finished ****ing around and announced he's quitting, you better believe Jerry Jones will never again yield the whistle to a coach with that forceful a personality again.

He will focus on a Jim Bates or a Wade Phillips or a Norv Turner and good luck to those guys keeping a lid on TO's act. Tuna had enough experience and a fawning media to keep TO relatively under control. TO will spot the strings on a puppet coach a mile away and he'll make him dance just as much as Jerry does, if not more.

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I also believe Jones will look for an offensive coach to try and develop Romo. The more I think about it, the more I expect Norv Turner to wind up with the job.

[RunSilentRunDeep]

What's the rule on this? Won't Dallas need permission to chat? I say screw him, Bates committed for the year. Does Coyer not get dumped if Bates hadn't already been lined up? We'd probably lose his son as well.

[baja]

What's the rule on this? Won't Dallas need permission to chat? I say screw him, Bates committed for the year. Does Coyer not get dumped if Bates hadn't already been lined up? We'd probably lose his son as well.

No he is free to interview for the job because it is a promotion.

[footstepsfrom#27]

Jerry Jones specifically stated just two weeks ago that regardless of whether Parcells was here or not, the Cowboys would stay with a 3-4 defense, which seems to rule out Bates.

On another note...Dan R66v6s name popped out of the churning rumor mill yesterday. How great would that be? To see Jones get stuck with R66v6s would make my whole year.

[SureShot]

Why not Dick LeBeau?

[Killericon]

No he is free to interview for the job because it is a promotion.

Gruden denied Dennis Green permission to interview then DB Coach Mike Tomlin about his Defensive Coordinator position for a long time. It's not about promotions... I think the loophole lies in the "Assistant Head Coach" title.

[cutthemdown]

we dont have to let him, he signed a contract.

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Why not Dick LeBeau?

It would actually be a great hire. LeBeau could probably maintain his dignity, even under a jackass like Jones, and I'm pretty sure the team would play hard for him.

Its true he failed in Cincy, but nobody was going to succeed there at that point in time, not with the franchise pissing away top three picks on the likes of Peter Warrick and Akili Smith. The players all loved him, though.

[BroncoBuff]

Lovie Smith? Sounded weird at first, but makes sense here ... I found this down the page in a link on another thread:

It's no secret around NFL circles that Cowboys owner Jerry Jones had two main replacements in mind if Bill Parcells stepped down. Jeff Fisher, Jones' first choice, is no longer an option. However, the other guy Jones has high on his list is Bears Head Coach Lovie Smith. Despite leading the Bears to the Super Bowl, Chicago's front office isn't sold on Smith for the long haul. Let me translate for you: "We are the cheapest SOB's in the NFL and we don't want to pay Lovie more than $9 an hour." Jones is well aware of the Bears cheap ways and is ready to swoop in and steal Lovie after the Super Bowl.

I was told that the interviews taking place right now are backup interviews in case Jones can't get Smith. However, expect Jones to get his man. The Bears simply refuse to pay Lovie what he's worth and will instead hand the reigns over to defensive coordinator Ron Rivera. There's a good possibility that win or lose, one week after his Super Bowl appearance, Lovie Smith will become the Cowboys new head coach. If Jones is unable to lure Smith (unlikely) he will turn to either Wade "Why do people keep making me a head coach?" Phillips or Wade Wilson. Phillips could get the job with Wilson becoming his OC and taking over in a few years. This will most likely be a moot point because the cheap Bears will screw their fans once again and let a Super Bowl coach walk because he wants health insurance and a dental plan.
http://pigskin-report.blogspot.com/

[Hercules Rockefeller]

we dont have to let him, he signed a contract.

A HC is a promotion over Asst. HC, Denver can't stop the Cowboys from intervewing him if they want.

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Lovie Smith? Sounded weird at first, but makes sense here ... I found this down the page in a link on another thread:


http://pigskin-report.blogspot.com/

This is a very real possibility. Lovie is the lowest paid head coach in football. He wants $5 million a year and the Bears are offering about $2.7 million a year.

The sticking point (well, one sticking point) is Lovie is committed to the 4-3.

[Rulon Velvet Jones]

God I hate the Cowboys.

I hate that now that the position is open that Jerry and all of the fans think that everyone out there wants to come to Dallas. It's not an easy gig. Most of the assistants have already left and the players have no idea what their future looks like. Just hire Norv Turner and be done with it, Jerruh.

[footstepsfrom#27]

God I hate the Cowboys.

I hate that now that the position is open that Jerry and all of the fans think that everyone out there wants to come to Dallas. It's not an easy gig. Most of the assistants have already left and the players have no idea what their future looks like. Just hire Norv Turner and be done with it, Jerruh.
No kidding. They act here like they're still back in the era when anybody gave a crap about "America's team" and couldn't wait to play here. Now they're just a sad shadow of what they used to be and with Jones here, what truly outstanding coach would want to come here and be his puppet? Parcells came closer than anybody could have to running his own ship, but does anyone think he wanted TO in there? No way. That was all Jones.

This town still hasn't seen the truth...that they're finished as an NFL power till the current owner either dies or sells the team. Jone's ego will always get in the way of them having the best people for the job running things. He's not Al Davis...but give him time...he won't be far from it by the time he's that age.

[SureShot]

No kidding. They act here like they're still back in the era when anybody gave a crap about "America's team" and couldn't wait to play here. Now they're just a sad shadow of what they used to be and with Jones here, what truly outstanding coach would want to come here and be his puppet? Parcells came closer than anybody could have to running his own ship, but does anyone think he wanted TO in there? No way. That was all Jones.

This town still hasn't seen the truth...that they're finished as an NFL power till the current owner either dies or sells the team. Jone's ego will always get in the way of them having the best people for the job running things. He's not Al Davis...but give him time...he won't be far from it by the time he's that age.

Exxxcellent!

[Popps]

Damn, sounds like even if we get to keep Bates around, he's going to have one foot out the door all year long, particularly if his squad has a good year.
Not really wild about that, but we have to do something.

[TheReverend]

A HC is a promotion over Asst. HC, Denver can't stop the Cowboys from intervewing him if they want.

Yes they can, he's under contract, the organization would have to grant permission.

[BroncoBuff]

The sticking point (well, one sticking point) is Lovie is committed to the 4-3.

That's what the article said about Bates.

[chrisp]

If he's going to be HC rather than D-coor, I don't think the formation matters as much, as long as you have a 3-4 familiar D-coor.

Its a different formation but its not a different sport fer chrissakes....

[crazyhorse]

Looks like there is potential that Bates may thumb his nose at the Donks faster than Eddie Kennsion.

That would be a record.:rofl:

[Garcia Bronco]

Too bad Jones can't interview him.

[Mediator12]

No way Shanahan lets Bates interview at this point. And yes ,he can say that he can not despite the upward move as he has already done it numerous times in the past to assistants he wants to keep. It would create some tension between him and Bates if Bates wants to interview. But, with his son on the staff, it should not be that big of a deal.

[BroncoFiend]

If he's going to be HC rather than D-coor, I don't think the formation matters as much, as long as you have a 3-4 familiar D-coor.

Its a different formation but its not a different sport fer chrissakes....

The guy is a defensive minded coach. You have to think that if he is going to go there he'll want to implement what he knows best. Otherwise, why bring him in?

[Garcia Bronco]

No way Shanahan lets Bates interview at this point. And yes ,he can say that he can not despite the upward move as he has already done it numerous times in the past to assistants he wants to keep. It would create some tension between him and Bates if Bates wants to interview. But, with his son on the staff, it should not be that big of a deal.

Well that's the thing...if Bates really wants to interview....Coach should let him. It will only make things bad if he doesn't

[Hercules Rockefeller]

No way Shanahan lets Bates interview at this point. And yes ,he can say that he can not despite the upward move as he has already done it numerous times in the past to assistants he wants to keep. It would create some tension between him and Bates if Bates wants to interview. But, with his son on the staff, it should not be that big of a deal.

It's well known that Bates wants to be an HC, whether or not his son is on staff is irrelevant. You're underestimating the problems that could develop if all you think that could arise between the two is tension. It would be idiotic to turn down anyone's interview request if they're looking for an HC, other guys are going to remember that in the future if Denver is looking to fill coaching spots.

[Rohirrim]

I would think it would also put a smear on Bate's name in the coaching fraternity, to come in, sign a contract, and then walk out on it. I guess if the Cowboys gave us their #22 pick, that would make everything all right. ;D

[footstepsfrom#27]

Wade Wilson is the latest "short list" name to pop up down here...my guess is nobody really knows what JJ is thinking.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

They talked about Wade being at the top of the list a few weeks ago if Parcells decided not to come back.

Edit: I should read more than the guys first name, they said Wade Phillips would at the top of the short list a few weeks ago, not Wade Wilson.

[KipCorrington25]

My suggestion would be that the Cowboys hire Cliff Harris. I think we need more bald guys with handlebar moustaches in prominent positions within society.

http://www.cowboycards.com/Players/Harris/75Harris.jpg

[Orange_Beard]

We should ask for a First round pick. Worked for the Raiders.

[footstepsfrom#27]

I think Jones will go with an offensive minded coach rather than somebody like Bates.

[Rohirrim]

Wade Wilson is the latest "short list" name to pop up down here...my guess is nobody really knows what JJ is thinking.

He's thinking about his next facelift.

[footstepsfrom#27]

He's thinking about his next facelift.
Bahhhaaa! I bet he sued the plastic surgeon for quackery on that last botch job.

Urban Meyer's name has also surfaced here...I think he'd be crazy to consider working for Jones...he's in the catbird's seat right now...why would he subject himself to the TO/Jerry circus?

[Dempsey Dog]

<H2 class=date-header>Don't worry....Bates is not going anywhere!





Tuesday, January 23, 2007

Jerry wants some Lovie (http://pigskin-report.blogspot.com/2007/01/jerry-wants-some-lovie.html)


It's no secret around NFL circles that Cowboys owner Jerry Jones had two main replacements in mind if Bill Parcells stepped down. Jeff Fisher, Jones' first choice, is no longer an option. However, the other guy Jones has high on his list is Bears Head Coach Lovie Smith. Despite leading the Bears to the Super Bowl, Chicago's front office isn't sold on Smith for the long haul. Let me translate for you: "We are the cheapest SOB's in the NFL and we don't want to pay Lovie more than $9 an hour." Jones is well aware of the Bears cheap ways and is ready to swoop in and steal Lovie after the Super Bowl.

I was told that the interviews taking place right now are backup interviews in case Jones can't get Smith. However, expect Jones to get his man. The Bears simply refuse to pay Lovie what he's worth and will instead hand the reigns over to defensive coordinator Ron Rivera. There's a good possibility that win or lose, one week after his Super Bowl appearance, Lovie Smith will become the Cowboys new head coach. If Jones is unable to lure Smith (unlikely) he will turn to either Wade "Why do people keep making me a head coach?" Phillips or Wade Wilson. Phillips could get the job with Wilson becoming his OC and taking over in a few years. This will most likely be a moot point because the cheap Bears will screw their fans once again and let a Super Bowl coach walk because he wants health insurance and a dental plan.



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[Billy Clyde Puckett]

I think they just mentioned my Labrador Retiever as a possible Cowboy HC. So much BS about the job, it is amazing. Jones will have almost as much trouble finding a coach as Greasy Al, because no one wants TO and Jones looking over his sholder. I have my money on Nutt to be Jones lap dog.

[Rohirrim]

Wade Wilson? Isn't that the old Faders' QB who used to stand in the pocket for so long that he got his bell rung more times than Quasimodo?

[brncs_fan]

Bates is not mentioned in the latest rumor mill:

San Diego Chargers defensive coordinator Wade Phillips, San Francisco 49ers offensive coordinator Norv Turner, Chicago Bears defensive coordinator Ron Rivera, Tennessee Titans offensive coordinator Norm Chow, Detroit Lions offensive coordinator Mike Martz and Southern California coach Pete Carroll are all considered targets for Cowboys owner Jerry Jones as he looks to hire the seventh coach in franchise history. Phillips, the son of former Oilers coach Bum Phillips, is considered a good fit because of his expertise with the 3-4 defense.

http://www.benmaller.com/

May the fleecing of SD assistants continue.

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I think they just mentioned my Labrador Retiever as a possible Cowboy HC. So much BS about the job, it is amazing. Jones will have almost as much trouble finding a coach as Greasy Al, because no one wants TO and Jones looking over his sholder. I have my money on Nutt to be Jones lap dog.

Brody already interviewed for the job. He sniffed Jones for a second, made a funny face and then took a crap right on the Cowboys logo in Jerry's office.

TO said he could never play for any coach who would one-up him like that.

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/4292/brody9en.jpg

[El Guapo]

Too bad Jones can't interview him.

doesnt mean he cant put word through his agent that he would have the job if he just signed the dotted line.

[El Guapo]

[B][B][B]<H2 class=date-header>[SIZE="4"]Don't worry....Bates is not going anywhere!





Tuesday, January 23, 2007

Jerry wants some Lovie (http://pigskin-report.blogspot.com/2007/01/jerry-wants-some-lovie.html)


yup. word around here (dallas) is that he already extended him an offer with a contract. all he has to do is sign.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Brody already interviewed for the job. He sniffed Jones for a second, made a funny face and then took a crap right on the Cowboys logo in Jerry's office.

TO said he could never play for any coach who would one-up him like that.

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/4292/brody9en.jpg

Well, I don't think Sam could top that but maybe he can be a coordinator. I know he would mark every chair leg in the office and he could certainly be heard over the entire team except TO.