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epicSocialism4tw
01-23-2007, 11:13 AM
Sagarin is an MIT statistician who works for USA Today.

NBA 2006-2007 through games of 2007 January 22 Monday
HOME ADVANTAGE= 3.18 RATING W L SCHEDL(RANK) VS top 10 | VS top 16 | ELO_CHESS | PREDICTOR
1 Dallas Mavericks = 98.48 34 8 90.28( 10) 12 6 | 18 6 | 99.10 1 | 98.02 1
2 Phoenix Suns = 97.86 32 8 89.53( 23) 4 7 | 12 7 | 98.07 2 | 97.67 3
3 San Antonio Spurs = 96.03 30 13 89.79( 20) 7 7 | 9 10 | 95.02 3 | 97.84 2
4 Utah Jazz = 94.08 28 14 90.72( 3) 10 5 | 14 8 | 94.79 4 | 93.48 6
5 Houston Rockets = 93.88 25 16 91.04( 1) 9 9 | 12 12 | 93.78 6 | 93.98 4
6 Los Angeles Lakers = 93.02 27 15 90.39( 9) 9 7 | 17 7 | 93.98 5 | 92.22 8
7 Chicago Bulls = 92.19 23 19 89.73( 21) 4 9 | 9 16 | 90.98 10 | 93.67 5
8 Washington Wizards = 91.63 24 16 90.00( 17) 6 8 | 10 12 | 92.41 7 | 90.90 10
9 Denver Nuggets = 91.46 21 17 88.92( 30) 3 7 | 7 9 | 90.31 12 | 92.75 7
10 Detroit Pistons = 91.32 23 16 89.12( 29) 5 4 | 10 7 | 91.43 8 | 91.20 9
NBA 2006-2007 through games of 2007 January 22 Monday
HOME ADVANTAGE= 3.18 RATING W L SCHEDL(RANK) VS top 10 | VS top 16 | ELO_CHESS | PREDICTOR
11 Cleveland Cavaliers = 90.98 24 17 89.43( 26) 4 6 | 9 11 | 91.35 9 | 90.60 12
12 Orlando Magic = 90.69 23 19 89.34( 27) 4 7 | 8 12 | 90.57 11 | 90.80 11
13 Minnesota Timberwolves = 90.15 20 20 90.40( 8) 8 9 | 10 13 | 90.29 13 | 90.00 14
14 Indiana Pacers = 90.07 21 20 89.87( 19) 4 8 | 7 14 | 90.06 14 | 90.07 13
15 Toronto Raptors = 89.59 20 22 90.08( 15) 1 11 | 6 14 | 89.37 16 | 89.80 15
16 New Jersey Nets = 89.48 20 21 89.48( 25) 4 8 | 11 11 | 89.29 17 | 89.67 16
17 Los Angeles Clippers = 89.34 19 21 90.41( 7) 4 12 | 6 16 | 89.81 15 | 88.85 18
18 Golden State Warriors = 89.30 19 23 90.24( 11) 5 10 | 7 15 | 88.94 18 | 89.64 17
19 Miami Heat = 88.36 19 22 89.98( 18) 2 12 | 6 15 | 88.90 19 | 87.77 22
20 Milwaukee Bucks = 88.31 17 23 90.42( 6) 4 10 | 7 18 | 88.34 21 | 88.27 20
NBA 2006-2007 through games of 2007 January 22 Monday
HOME ADVANTAGE= 3.18 RATING W L SCHEDL(RANK) VS top 10 | VS top 16 | ELO_CHESS | PREDICTOR
21 New Orleans Hornets = 88.22 16 23 90.94( 2) 6 9 | 10 13 | 88.56 20 | 87.84 21
22 Seattle SuperSonics = 88.17 16 25 90.16( 14) 2 11 | 7 15 | 87.42 24 | 88.84 19
23 Sacramento Kings = 87.75 16 23 90.21( 13) 4 11 | 7 15 | 88.02 22 | 87.47 23
24 New York Knicks = 86.90 18 25 89.51( 24) 5 11 | 7 17 | 87.35 25 | 86.40 24
25 Portland Trail Blazers = 86.79 17 25 90.23( 12) 3 9 | 8 15 | 87.68 23 | 85.64 27
26 Charlotte Bobcats = 85.77 14 26 90.08( 16) 5 10 | 9 17 | 86.27 26 | 85.17 29
27 Boston Celtics = 85.30 12 28 89.34( 28) 1 9 | 3 17 | 84.30 29 | 86.04 25
28 Philadelphia 76ers = 85.11 11 30 90.66( 5) 2 11 | 3 20 | 84.37 28 | 85.68 26
29 Atlanta Hawks = 85.09 13 25 89.70( 22) 2 9 | 7 15 | 85.71 27 | 84.28 30
30 Memphis Grizzlies = 84.65 10 32 90.69( 4) 3 15 | 5 18 | 83.52 30 | 85.42 28
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Divisional Rankings
There are two group ratings, the "central mean" and the
"simple average" (also known as the "arithmetic mean")
The "central mean" gives the most weight to the middle team(s)
in the group and progressively less weight to teams as you go
away from the middle in either direction, up or down.

This tends to smooth out the effect of anomalous teams that are rated
much higher and lower than the middle team(s) in the group. The
"simple average" ("arithmetic mean") weights each team equally
no matter where they are relative to the middle.

Here are a few examples of how the "central mean" is computed.
4-team group ___ the weights are 1-2-2-1
5-team group ___ the weights are 1-2-3-2-1
6-team group ___ the weights are 1-2-3-3-2-1
7-team group ___ the weights are 1-2-3-4-3-2-1
8-team group ___ the weights are 1-2-3-4-4-3-2-1
9-team group ___ the weights are 1-2-3-4-5-4-3-2-1
10-team group ___ the weights are 1-2-3-4-5-5-4-3-2-1
11-team group ___ the weights are 1-2-3-4-5-6-5-4-3-2-1
12-team group ___ the weights are 1-2-3-4-5-6-6-5-4-3-2-1
13-team group ___ the weights are 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-6-5-4-3-2-1
This is in a sense the continuous version of the discrete "tri-mean".

DIVISION CENTRAL MEAN SIMPLE AVERAGE TEAMS

1 SOUTHWEST (west) = 92.59 92.25 ( 1) 5
2 PACIFIC (west) = 90.92 91.46 ( 2) 5
3 CENTRAL (EAST) = 90.69 90.57 ( 3) 5
4 NORTHWEST (west) = 90.07 90.13 ( 4) 5
5 SOUTHEAST (EAST) = 88.30 88.31 ( 5) 5
6 ATLANTIC (EAST) = 87.22 87.28 ( 6) 5


DIVISION CENTRAL MEAN SIMPLE AVERAGE TEAMS

6 ATLANTIC (EAST) = 87.22 87.28 ( 6) 5
3 CENTRAL (EAST) = 90.69 90.57 ( 3) 5
5 SOUTHEAST (EAST) = 88.30 88.31 ( 5) 5
1 SOUTHWEST (west) = 92.59 92.25 ( 1) 5
4 NORTHWEST (west) = 90.07 90.13 ( 4) 5
2 PACIFIC (west) = 90.92 91.46 ( 2) 5

Garcia Bronco
01-23-2007, 11:24 AM
awwe boo...this is about baseket ball

Sassy
01-23-2007, 11:26 AM
awwe boo...this is about baseket ball

That was my thought! boo!!! Where's my football?

azbroncfan
01-23-2007, 12:48 PM
I wondered who would of been number 1 once I saw who started the thread.

brncs_fan
01-23-2007, 01:05 PM
awwe boo...this is about baseket ball

I was wondering how you could have power rankings with the super bowl still to play, a draft , and FA signing period.

I agree on the boo sentiment.

epicSocialism4tw
01-23-2007, 01:36 PM
I wondered who would of been number 1 once I saw who started the thread.


It should be obvious as to who is number one.

I thought that it might be interesting to quantify the Nuggets' starting position for the Nuggs fans here at the beginning of the Anthony/Iverson era.

Paladin
01-23-2007, 02:05 PM
Is it possible that the Nuggets will/can beat the living daylights out of the Mavericks?


Just asking.....

epicSocialism4tw
01-23-2007, 02:26 PM
Is it possible that the Nuggets will/can beat the living daylights out of the Mavericks?
Just asking.....

Anything's possible.

I think that we wont really know how good the Anthony/Iverson Nuggets are until about this time next year. That's when the coaching staff and management can trim the fat player-wise and implement the proper system for those guys. The Nuggets should focus on making their defense a priority and to centering the offense around the mid/high-post and the pick'n'pop at the top of the key. It's important that Anthony be able to develop much of the offense out of the mid-post so that the Nuggets can develop a true half-court/playoff offense for when they play teams like San Antonio or Dallas.

watermock
01-23-2007, 02:47 PM
I guess Smith? dumped in 21 or something. They were talking about how the new point guard distributes the ball well, and Camby hits the boards.

This team is the best in a LONG time. I think it's got as much or more potential as the Kiki Fat and Alex days...they just need to get jelled now.

If Karl can get them to play some defense, it's a dangerous team.

ludo21
01-23-2007, 03:04 PM
Nuggets could be a real threat in the playoffs for sure.

Suns are winning it all this year tho!! ;D

Nash is playing out of his mind, Marion and Amare are amazing. Then you got role players like Diaw and Barbosa who are scoring double digits every night!

And then! They are actually giving more effort on the defensive side of the ball.

They are good :strong:

Garcia Bronco
01-23-2007, 03:42 PM
They don't even show the Nuggets on local TV here. Lame

Tredici
01-23-2007, 04:49 PM
They don't even show the Nuggets on local TV here. Lame

What are you talking about? I watch every Nugget and Av game. Get some Altitude, dude.

azbroncfan
01-23-2007, 05:19 PM
It should be obvious as to who is number one.

I thought that it might be interesting to quantify the Nuggets' starting position for the Nuggs fans here at the beginning of the Anthony/Iverson era.

I would of thought the suns would be since they have lost 1 game in past 23 or so.

Garcia Bronco
01-23-2007, 05:42 PM
What are you talking about? I watch every Nugget and Av game. Get some Altitude, dude.

What channel was it on last night? It wasn't on CBS, NBC, FOX, or ABC.

Master___Pain
01-23-2007, 05:56 PM
What channel was it on last night? It wasn't on CBS, NBC, FOX, or ABC.

Channel 25 on comcast, channel 644 (sometimes 661) on DTV and channel 410 on dish network

Dagmar
01-23-2007, 05:57 PM
What channel was it on last night? It wasn't on CBS, NBC, FOX, or ABC.

Altitude, which for me is 25 on comcast here in Boulder. The game is on CNT or something when the Avs play or vice versa. They show ALL of the games!

epicSocialism4tw
01-23-2007, 07:12 PM
I would of thought the suns would be since they have lost 1 game in past 23 or so.

...and they still havent caught up with Dallas, or beaten Dallas once this season.

freak6
01-23-2007, 07:13 PM
Nuggets looking real strong.

broncs2bowl
01-23-2007, 07:17 PM
Nuggets are looking real strong. Melo and AI seem to be meshing real well together. Especially with all that ooping in the 4th quarter. This team has championship talent. They just need to execute.

Master___Pain
01-23-2007, 07:35 PM
While the Nuggs did look good last night on the surface, if they played like they did last night against any team not named Memphis, they probably would have lost. What's that you say? They were terrible from the FT line, terrible shooting out side the paint. That being said they were cutting to the basket very well and making the extra pass. A lot of assists last night. The real test to see where the Nuggs are will be on Friday against the Jizz.

ludo21
01-23-2007, 07:44 PM
41-20

1st Quarter RAPE!!

Suns dominating so far, everyone is on fire, i love this team. ;D

broncs2bowl
01-23-2007, 07:48 PM
Master____Pain I dont think blowing a team out woud result in losing to most other teams. We were sloppy but wat do you expect with Melo's first game back. He was sloppy on some of his shots too. We are gonna be good

Atlas
01-23-2007, 08:26 PM
Is it possible that the Nuggets will/can beat the living daylights out of the Mavericks?


Just asking.....

The Nugs now have a very well rounded balanced team. Once Anthony gets his shooting touch back they will ba able to play with any team.

azbroncfan
01-23-2007, 10:19 PM
what about this llama? http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/powerranking

epicSocialism4tw
01-23-2007, 11:06 PM
what about this llama? http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/powerranking

Hang on to what you can.

azbroncfan
01-24-2007, 02:09 AM
Hang on to what you can.


All I'm saying are power rankings are completely worthless. You keep posting them to bring up the mavs and you only post them when they are in top 2 or 3.

epicSocialism4tw
01-24-2007, 04:49 PM
All I'm saying are power rankings are completely worthless. You keep posting them to bring up the mavs and you only post them when they are in top 2 or 3.

I've only posted one "power ranking" thread.

If you would like to see one where the Suns are ranked ahead of the Mavs, you are welcome to go find it and post it.

rbackfactory80
01-24-2007, 04:53 PM
I've only posted one "power ranking" thread.

If you would like to see one where the Suns are ranked ahead of the Mavs, you are welcome to go find it and post it.

My personal one. It would go something like this:

1 Suns
2 Spurs
3 Nuggets
4 Lakers
5 Bulls
6 Pistons

29 Knicks
30 Mavs

azbroncfan
01-24-2007, 05:19 PM
I've only posted one "power ranking" thread.

If you would like to see one where the Suns are ranked ahead of the Mavs, you are welcome to go find it and post it.

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/search.php?searchid=39995

For teams maybe one but you have posted 3 different ones on the first page of threads started. I'm a Jazz fan anyway not a suns fan.

Rock Chalk
01-24-2007, 05:21 PM
Rockets with a healthy T-Mac and Yao are the best team in the NBA period.

epicSocialism4tw
01-24-2007, 05:30 PM
Rockets with a healthy T-Mac and Yao are the best team in the NBA period.

I dont think that the Rockets will ever have McGrady at full strength again. It's unfortunate, but chronic back injuries do not go away. I have always thought that a healthy McGrady is the best 2 guard in the NBA. I dont think that we'll ever see him at that level again.

epicSocialism4tw
01-24-2007, 05:32 PM
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/search.php?searchid=39995

For teams maybe one but you have posted 3 different ones on the first page of threads started. I'm a Jazz fan anyway not a suns fan.

Those arent "power" rankings. Those are statistical analyses of player efficiency. I think you are confused.

Rock Chalk
01-25-2007, 10:14 PM
I dont think that the Rockets will ever have McGrady at full strength again. It's unfortunate, but chronic back injuries do not go away. I have always thought that a healthy McGrady is the best 2 guard in the NBA. I dont think that we'll ever see him at that level again.

I suspect you are right, but even not at full strength, T-Mac when playing and a healthy Yao put the Rockets up with anyone in the league, no disrespect to the Suns or Mavs or Spurs.

ludo21
01-25-2007, 10:39 PM
and the Mavs lose to the Bulls...

pathetic ;D

j/k, they didnt shoot well at all but their D kept them in the game.

Now the Suns stand alone with only 8 losses!