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Rohirrim
01-22-2007, 07:56 PM
Posted purely for entertainment and speculation.

PK TEAM POS PLAYER SCHOOL
1 Raiders QB JaMarcus Russell LSU
A great athlete that Al Davis will fall in love with.
2 Lions RB Marshawn Lynch California
Has the hands, speed, and size to be the best back since Barry in Detroit.
3 Browns DT Alan Branch Michigan
Massive interior player that will help shore up their run defense.
4 Buccaneers WR Calvin Johnson Georgia Tech
He's a playmaker that should do a lot to help out their struggling quarterbacks.
5 Cardinals OT Joe Thomas Wisconsin
A top pass protector that is the ideal replacement for Davis on the left side.
6 Redskins DE Jamaal Anderson Arkansas
A rare athlete at the DE spot will help improve their lacking pass rush.
7 Vikings QB Brady Quinn Notre Dame
Quinn is too good to pass up at this point.
8 Texans RB Adrian Peterson Oklahoma
Injury concerns may drop him, but a perfect fit in Houston.
9 Dolphins CB Leon Hall Michigan
Will help add more big plays for this secondary.
10 Falcons DE Gaines Adams Clemson
A pass rusher that can be the replacement of Kerney.
11 49ers S LaRon Landry LSU
Will remind Nolan too much of Ed Reed for him to pass on him.
12 Bills WR Ted Ginn Ohio State
Will give the Bills the fastest pair of receivers in the league.
13 Rams DT Amobi Okoye Louisville
Young with upside and will help shore up the run defense.
14 Panthers S Reggie Nelson Florida
Nelson will be groomed as the heir apparent behind Minter.
15 Steelers CB Darrelle Revis Pittsburgh
A solid corner to help out their weak secondary.
16 Packers OT Levi Brown Penn State
Another piece to the puzzle as they continue to build their line.
17 Jaguars LB Lawrence Timmons Florida State
Afraid to draft another receiver, they will instead go with the steady linebacker.
18 Bengals DE Charles Johnson Georgia
A top flight pass rusher that can replace Smith in the lineup.
19 Titans CB Chris Houston Arkansas
Will team with Jones to give them a solid young pair of corners.
20 Giants WR Dwayne Jarrett USC
Big wideout will help Manning get out of his funk.
21 Broncos DE Jarvis Moss Florida
Will add a lot of speed to the edge of their defensive line.
22 Cowboys OT Justin Blalock Texas
Has a future at either guard or tackle for them.
23 Chiefs WR Sidney Rice South Carolina
The Chiefs will fall in love with his speed.
24 Patriots (from SEA) LB Paul Posluszny Penn State
Will be the guy they groom behind Bruschi to lead defense down the road.
25 Jets DE Anthony Spencer Purdue
Will be developed as an OLB in their eventual transformation to the 3-4.
26 Eagles CB Marcus McCauley Fresno State
A cover guy that can slide in immediately opposite Brown.
27 Saints CB Aaron Ross Texas
Their corners are old, and Ross is young and talented.
28 Patriots WR Dwayne Bowe LSU
Has good hands to be a reliable target for Brady.
29 Ravens RB Michael Bush Louisville
Combo of size and power will be ideal to eventually succeed Lewis.
30 Chargers WR Robert Meachem Tennessee
He and Jackson can now be called the Twin Towers.
31 Colts DE Adam Carriker Nebraska
He's a perfect fit for what they like at DT.
32 Bears TE Zach Miller Arizona State
Clark played well, but Miller's too good a prospect to pass up this late.

Rohirrim
01-22-2007, 07:58 PM
Wouldn't that be funny if the Vikes traded a pick to the Broncos for Jake, and then drafted Brady Quinn? Jake would feel like he's stuck in one of those Twilight Zone episodes that you can't escape from.

broncs2bowl
01-22-2007, 08:04 PM
Whos better Jarvis Moss or Quentin Moses at rushing the passer?...at stopping the run?

Clockwork Orange
01-22-2007, 08:05 PM
Marshawn Lynch 2nd overall? Me thinks not. He's good, he aint that good.

Jarvis Moss at #21 would work fine for me.

Broncoman13
01-22-2007, 08:08 PM
Give me Carriker at 21. His size gives us so many more options and you know (considering they tried it with Elvis Dumervil) he would be moved in to DT in passing situations.

-Slap-
01-22-2007, 09:21 PM
Jarvis Moss is my second choice this year after Patrick Willis.

BroncoInferno
01-22-2007, 09:24 PM
I'm skeptical of Moss. He has talent to be sure, but he only had 6 sacks last season and people are projecting him as a top NFL pass rusher? That is a red flag to me.

SoCalBronco
01-22-2007, 09:28 PM
Jarvis Moss has a long way to go to be a good NFL DE. He has to gain ALOT of weight first and he has to become a much better pass rusher too. I know he did well in the BCS Title game, but he wasnt a huge force this season. His work against the run sucks. He isn't first round caliber or second round caliber.

BroncoInferno
01-22-2007, 09:31 PM
Jarvis Moss has a long way to go to be a good NFL DE. He has to gain ALOT of weight first and he has to become a much better pass rusher too. I know he did well in the BCS Title game, but he wasnt a huge force this season. His work against the run sucks. He isn't first round caliber or second round caliber.


Damn, socal, we agree on something. Strike the bells ;D

SoCalBronco
01-22-2007, 09:32 PM
Damn, socal, we agree on something. Strike the bells ;D

It was bound to happen sooner or later. ;D

Hercules Rockefeller
01-22-2007, 09:37 PM
He's still the #1 Cock Blocker

-Slap-
01-22-2007, 09:54 PM
You're both wrong.

Moss is 6'6", 251 pounds and he runs a 4.75 40. Once the Combine rolls around, he'll start soaring up draft boards. The BCS Title game is all the justification teams will need to convince themselves he's not just a workout warrior.

-Slap-
01-22-2007, 09:57 PM
I'm skeptical of Moss. He has talent to be sure, but he only had 6 sacks last season and people are projecting him as a top NFL pass rusher? That is a red flag to me.

Draft Countdown shows him with 7.5 sacks each of the last two years.

BroncoInferno
01-22-2007, 10:08 PM
You're both wrong.

Moss is 6'6", 251 pounds and he runs a 4.75 40. Once the Combine rolls around, he'll start soaring up draft boards. The BCS Title game is all the justification teams will need to convince themselves he's not just a workout warrior.

I'm not saying he won't go high, I'm saying that I'm not sure his production justifies that sort of ranking. I'm skeptical of drafting a guy in the first round with the idea that he's going to be a top flight pass rusher when he only had 6 sacks in his final season.

BroncoInferno
01-22-2007, 10:09 PM
Draft Countdown shows him with 7.5 sacks each of the last two years.

Well, OK, a whole sack and half more. 7.5 sacks still isn't a whole lot for a guy who is projected as an elite pass rusher.

-Slap-
01-22-2007, 10:27 PM
Well, OK, a whole sack and half more. 7.5 sacks still isn't a whole lot for a guy who is projected as an elite pass rusher.

Two years in a row, plus a dynamite game when everything was on the line.

I could live with Carriker @ 21. His massive frame might help the littlebackers do their jobs a little better.

Elway777
01-22-2007, 11:51 PM
Two years in a row, plus a dynamite game when everything was on the line.

I could live with Carriker @ 21. His massive frame might help the littlebackers do their jobs a little better. Carriker is the Guy I want too useless Lynch or Ginn fall to the Broncos.Williams would have a pro bowl season with Carriiker at Rde.

Barry Ramey
01-23-2007, 12:10 AM
Florida also used a lot or DL, so not like Moss was out there for every snap. I do think some are highly overrating Carriker, whom I bet will not run the 4.6 some claim.

youcandoit1687
01-23-2007, 12:38 AM
You're both wrong.

Moss is 6'6", 251 pounds and he runs a 4.75 40. Once the Combine rolls around, he'll start soaring up draft boards. The BCS Title game is all the justification teams will need to convince themselves he's not just a workout warrior.


Well, if teams look at the NCG, they will see that Derrick Harvey, Joe Cohen, Ray McDonald, and Jarvis Moss as well as the rest of the defense was all over the field so I doubt that will be the selling point. I am a little skeptical of Defensive Ends who are surrounded by that much talent although I will say I saw him get into the backfield very quickly a few plays.

DBroncos4life
01-23-2007, 01:13 AM
Carriker will be a better pro then Wistrom, Kelsey (he's coming into his own) and Vanden Bosch. I don't care what anyone says the guy can rush the passer. Maybe he should drop down to 280 again but he is solid as a rock at 295. He can play inside and outside which means he will play more snaps. Just saying.

Rohirrim
01-23-2007, 09:17 AM
I agree that Carriker would give the Broncos more options than Moss would. He could play inside and out. He would also fit the defensive scheme that Bates has used in the past better than Moss would. I also agree that the addition of a power rushing lineman like Carriker would improve the play of the LBs.

want2bAbronco2
01-23-2007, 11:47 AM
I want de/dt, but if Jarrett is there at 20......

Traveler
01-23-2007, 12:14 PM
Carriker will be a better pro then Wistrom, Kelsey (he's coming into his own) and Vanden Bosch. I don't care what anyone says the guy can rush the passer. Maybe he should drop down to 280 again but he is solid as a rock at 295. He can play inside and outside which means he will play more snaps. Just saying.

Doesn't Carriker have a history of injuries? Please, no more picks with medical problems.

DBroncos4life
01-23-2007, 12:27 PM
Doesn't Carriker have a history of injuries? Please, no more picks with medical problems.

NO

Drek
01-23-2007, 01:28 PM
Doesn't Carriker have a history of injuries? Please, no more picks with medical problems.
Not that ESPN flagged on their draft coverage site, and they're pretty good on flagging guys deserving it.

Carriker is an impressive athlete who could take Trevor Pryce's role very well as a DE/DT tweener who alternates depending on the down. My only question is if that role is still relevant with Bates running the D. I don't think it will be.

I'm also not real big on the huddle's mock with us taking Moss. I just don't see the DL talent worth a first when some real good players at those spots will last through the second round, probably even to the early 3rd.

If we stay in the first we should be taking the best talent on the board. In this mock I'd take Griffin, Carriker, or Bowe, though Lynch 2nd overall pretty much proves that this mock is wildly inaccurate. In this case I'd favor a trade down for a future 1st though.

Traveler
01-23-2007, 01:53 PM
NO

You're sure about this?

I've read that his ankles are of concern since he injured them. This past season is this first he played without missing substantial time. Good thing is that he has played well through those injuries. I'm still a little skeptical though.

DBroncos4life
01-23-2007, 02:04 PM
You're sure about this?

I've read that his ankles are of concern since he injured them. This past season is this first he played without missing substantial time. Good thing is that he has played well through those injuries. I'm still a little skeptical though.

if his ankles where a concern then why would he add 15 pounds of muscle to his frame? He played in all 12 games last year and all 10 the year before. He also played in all 14 games this year. He's healthy as a ox.

Traveler
01-23-2007, 02:30 PM
if his ankles where a concern then why would he add 15 pounds of muscle to his frame? He played in all 12 games last year and all 10 the year before. He also played in all 14 games this year. He's healthy as a ox.

Read the following article and see if it doesn't sound a little suspicious. Not trying to start rumors. Maybe just reading more into this story than I should. But the following paragraphs raise flags for me:

After seeing just how much bigger, buffer and downright more intimidating the senior-to-be defensive end had gotten since last December, it was no wonder why McKeon could only describe Carriker as a ``freak of nature.''``He's gotten so much bigger, stronger and faster, it's ridiculous,'' McKeon said. ``He's a freak of nature, that's the best way I can put it.''

Coming off the best season of his career in 2005, Carriker showed up for the first day of Nebraska's spring practice on Wednesday a massive 6-foot-6, 295 pounds - the majority of it pure muscle.

Last season when he broke out with a team-best 9.5 sacks and 17 tackles for loss, Carriker weighed in at just 280 pounds.

Not only that, Carriker also reportedly clocked in a hand-timed 4.68 seconds in the 40-yard dash during the Cornhuskers' winter conditioning.

http://www.dailynebraskan.com/news/2006/03/23/Sports/Carriker.Packs.On.Muscle.To.Increase.Intimidation-1749905.shtml


That's alot of weight gain and increased speed in a 3-4 month window.

I'm not saying...I'm just saying.:strong:

Jens1893
01-23-2007, 02:36 PM
I am beginning to warm up to the idea of taking Carriker at 21.

Billy Clyde Puckett
01-23-2007, 02:48 PM
Read the following article and see if it doesn't sound a little suspicious. Not trying to start rumors. Maybe just reading more into this story than I should. But the following paragraphs raise flags for me:

After seeing just how much bigger, buffer and downright more intimidating the senior-to-be defensive end had gotten since last December, it was no wonder why McKeon could only describe Carriker as a ``freak of nature.''``He's gotten so much bigger, stronger and faster, it's ridiculous,'' McKeon said. ``He's a freak of nature, that's the best way I can put it.''

Coming off the best season of his career in 2005, Carriker showed up for the first day of Nebraska's spring practice on Wednesday a massive 6-foot-6, 295 pounds - the majority of it pure muscle.

Last season when he broke out with a team-best 9.5 sacks and 17 tackles for loss, Carriker weighed in at just 280 pounds.

Not only that, Carriker also reportedly clocked in a hand-timed 4.68 seconds in the 40-yard dash during the Cornhuskers' winter conditioning.

http://www.dailynebraskan.com/news/2006/03/23/Sports/Carriker.Packs.On.Muscle.To.Increase.Intimidation-1749905.shtml


That's alot of weight gain and increased speed in a 3-4 month window.

I'm not saying...I'm just saying.:strong:

They just sent him to one of those feed lots near Lincoln that specialize in "fattening up" cattle before sending them to market.

Rohirrim
01-23-2007, 03:27 PM
Read the following article and see if it doesn't sound a little suspicious. Not trying to start rumors. Maybe just reading more into this story than I should. But the following paragraphs raise flags for me:

After seeing just how much bigger, buffer and downright more intimidating the senior-to-be defensive end had gotten since last December, it was no wonder why McKeon could only describe Carriker as a ``freak of nature.''``He's gotten so much bigger, stronger and faster, it's ridiculous,'' McKeon said. ``He's a freak of nature, that's the best way I can put it.''

Coming off the best season of his career in 2005, Carriker showed up for the first day of Nebraska's spring practice on Wednesday a massive 6-foot-6, 295 pounds - the majority of it pure muscle.

Last season when he broke out with a team-best 9.5 sacks and 17 tackles for loss, Carriker weighed in at just 280 pounds.

Not only that, Carriker also reportedly clocked in a hand-timed 4.68 seconds in the 40-yard dash during the Cornhuskers' winter conditioning.

http://www.dailynebraskan.com/news/2006/03/23/Sports/Carriker.Packs.On.Muscle.To.Increase.Intimidation-1749905.shtml


That's alot of weight gain and increased speed in a 3-4 month window.

I'm not saying...I'm just saying.:strong:

http://www.laist.com/attachments/tony/bondspeed.jpg
Just what is it you're trying to say?

Traveler
01-23-2007, 03:32 PM
http://www.laist.com/attachments/tony/bondspeed.jpg
Just what is it you're trying to say?

Exactly...

Master___Pain
01-23-2007, 04:33 PM
lol, this should go over like a fart in church with db4life......

DBroncos4life
01-23-2007, 04:40 PM
They just sent him to one of those feed lots near Lincoln that specialize in "fattening up" cattle before sending them to market.

oh burn.... 15 pounds in the offseason is nothing.

DBroncos4life
01-23-2007, 04:41 PM
lol, this should go over like a fart in church with db4life......

Does one still go to hell for that? ;)

TheDave
01-23-2007, 04:42 PM
Marshawn Lynch @ #2... Stop that. Especially to the Lions

As for Carriker, If he was still there @21 i would take him in a heartbeat. Unfortunately, once he gets to the combine I doubt he will make it out of the top 15

Drek
01-23-2007, 06:21 PM
That's alot of weight gain and increased speed in a 3-4 month window.

I'm not saying...I'm just saying.:strong:
Rule of thumb on hand timed 40's, round up to nearest tenth and add .24, 4.94 isn't so impressive. I expect Carriker to run a 4.85-4.9 at the combine with precision timing. And 15 pounds isn't squat for someone like Carriker with the facilities Nebraska has available to their scouts. He needed 15 pounds to fill out his frame.

Weight gain is a poor indicator of steroid use. When I was 20 I started weight lifting for the first time in my life. I went from 190 to 220 in under a year, getting leaner in the process. Its all about the frame you have to work with and the right genetics and work ethic.

-Slap-
04-28-2007, 05:00 PM
Jarvis Moss is my second choice this year after Patrick Willis.

This was before a couple red flags began to peek out of Jarvis' folder, but I was comfortable drafting him @ 21 when most people still had him projected in the second round.

watermock
04-30-2007, 04:52 AM
http://www.laist.com/attachments/tony/bondspeed.jpg

An added bonus to HGH besides making your head a mellon worth of the state fair is it's calming effect on your attitude.