get asante samuel

[ChampBailey24]

im all for this if we can make our d-line better through a free agent or two and draft. i just think if we get one or two more d-lineman or one great one plus a great cover corner in samuel our d would be unstopable.

[Clockwork Orange]

He's going to get #1 corner money on the open market. The Broncos aren't going to pay him #1 corner money to be our #2 corner.

[ro_50]

He's going to get #1 corner money on the open market. The Broncos aren't going to pay him #1 corner money to be our #2 corner.

Thank you for typing that in, saved me some time.

[SpringStein]

Yep, he will be making more than Champ next year with the $$ available by so many teams.

[spdirty]

A stud DT is our top priority. Once that position is filled, then maybe make a run at him.

[Ray Finkle]

what good is having a that tandem if the opposing QB has five minutes to throw every ball?

[WABronco]

Yea...if he can make plays on the ball like he has so far today, and he can get Phil Simms to call all his games...he's set!

[WABronco]

wow nvm he's the GOAT...SIGN HIM!!!!111111111

[SpringStein]

Yea...if he can make plays on the ball like he has so far today, and he can get Phil Simms to call all his games...he's set!

You were saying? ;)

[bpc]

Didn't Samuel get torched for two long TD's against Javon?

I'm just saying. He is going but DWill was a very good CB in my oppinion and not having a pass rush is killing us season after season.

[Clockwork Orange]

That sound you just heard is the Pats slapping the franchise tag on him.

[SpringStein]

That sound you just heard is the Pats slapping the franchise tag on him.

And Daniel Graham is free to go to the highest bidder.

[WABronco]

That sound you just heard is the Pats slapping the franchise tag on him.

When has NE ponied up before for an in-house player? Seymour was underpaid for a longtime...Brady is underpaid...they let Vinieatiarieareia go over a few mil...they let Ty Law go...

[Barry Ramey]

Broncos have no chance at signing him. Samuel will get much better offers than anything the Broncos could.

[Jetmeck]

Sooner or later this will bite them in the ass. Pitiful division they play will get better some day.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Brady is underpaid...

Maybe it's me, but I don't think someone who has the 2nd highest cap number for a QB is underpaid.

[Jens1893]

And Daniel Graham is free to go to the highest bidder.

hell give his hometown team a discount :)

[maven]

The Patriots have 2 #1 picks this year. They build through the draft and signing affordable FA's. I doubt they keep both Graham and Samuel.

[cutthemdown]

Bowlen may open the purse strings this year you never know. Signing players is more about bonus money then it is cap space. People are really fooled into thinking salary cap mean anything. If you want a player just give him a bonus. If the next year you need another player give him a bonus. More then cap space it's about team chemistry and profit. You can't pay a guy more then a better player already on your team and expect to have it work out. But the cap can almost always be worked with.

[WABronco]

Maybe it's me, but I don't think someone who has the 2nd highest cap number for a QB is underpaid.

Errrrrrrrr...what? Wasn't their a big stink about him being underpaid? Unless I'm mistaken, the consensus was that his contract was below market value.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Errrrrrrrr...what? Wasn't their a big stink about him being underpaid? Unless I'm mistaken, the consensus was that his contract was below market value.

People said it was at the time, it's not. People looked at total money and thought he went below market, when he didn't sign a deal that was for very long. Manning, McNabb, and Culpepper signed deals that were like and 9 or 10 years long and Brady's is like 5 years. He's a UFA in two years.

[That One Guy]

People said it was at the time, it's not. People looked at total money and thought he went below market, when he didn't sign a deal that was for very long. Manning, McNabb, and Culpepper signed deals that were like and 9 or 10 years long and Brady's is like 5 years. He's a UFA in two years.

Wouldn't it be awesome if Brady said F-U to the Pats for always getting rid of his good receivers? He'd get incredible money on the open market. I can only imagine...

[Killericon]

Bowlen may open the purse strings this year you never know. Signing players is more about bonus money then it is cap space. People are really fooled into thinking salary cap mean anything. If you want a player just give him a bonus. If the next year you need another player give him a bonus. More then cap space it's about team chemistry and profit. You can't pay a guy more then a better player already on your team and expect to have it work out. But the cap can almost always be worked with.

Do you work for Dan Snyder?

[cutthemdown]

Do you work for Dan Snyder?

Well no I wish I did though. But yeah Skins employ this strategy every year. They can do it more then other teams because the team is so profitable. Snyder just will do what he does every year. Other teams make much less but Broncos are top 10 in revenue I believe. Bowlen can't do that every year but he will every few years or so. We don't have any huge in house FA to resign. In past years the bonus money went to guys like Hamilton/Lepsis/Warren/Nalen/Plummer but this year we have no FA really that important. I see Broncos going after 1 marquee FA and maybe 1 other starting caliber FA. Then maybe 2-3 role player depth type guys.

[OrangeShadow]

Money doesnt grow on trees man hes going to cost WAY to much

[ZONA]

Why do so many people want Grahm here or asante? The glamor positions. We are losing the trench warfare. We need DL help first, then again, then again, and again and again and again............and yet again.

[SpringStein]

Why do so many people want Grahm here or asante? The glamor positions. We are losing the trench warfare. We need DL help first, then again, then again, and again and again and again............and yet again.


Graham helps the "trench warfare". There are two types of TE's the TE/WR hybrid ala Sharpe and now Scheffler. Then there's the TE/OT hybrid like Carswell and Graham fits that role. I think if we sign Graham we could go with as few as 3 TE's instead of 5 we've been carrying opening up roster spots.

[ZONA]

Graham helps the "trench warfare". There are two types of TE's the TE/WR hybrid ala Sharpe and now Scheffler. Then there's the TE/OT hybrid like Carswell and Graham fits that role. I think if we sign Graham we could go with as few as 3 TE's instead of 5 we've been carrying opening up roster spots.

That may be true but I would seriously look at drafting and trading for DL before helping the OL/TE. It's obvious that DL, along with Special Teams were our weakest areas..........by a long shot.

[Killericon]

Why do so many people want Grahm here or asante? The glamor positions. We are losing the trench warfare. We need DL help first, then again, then again, and again and again and again............and yet again.

Oh, how the NFL has changed...Tight End is a "Glamour" position.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

I think if we sign Graham we could go with as few as 3 TE's instead of 5 we've been carrying opening up roster spots.

4, unless they find another long-snapper

[Orange_Beard]

I thought the Pats mistake this year was letting both wideouts go. IMHO Billick's ego is getting in the way a little. He is getting into the "I can win with anyone phase"

If they let Samuel go my jaw will drop.

[chaz]

4, unless they find another long-snapper

chris myers can long snap, but i think four would be the right number to keep anyways

[maven]

Graham helps the "trench warfare". There are two types of TE's the TE/WR hybrid ala Sharpe and now Scheffler. Then there's the TE/OT hybrid like Carswell and Graham fits that role. I think if we sign Graham we could go with as few as 3 TE's instead of 5 we've been carrying opening up roster spots.


You can now find a decent TE every year in the NFL draft. Why drop $3-6 million on a blocking TE when they're available every year in the NFL draft. The talent is there.

[SoCalBronco]

Yeah, lets put 120 million dollars into the cornerback position alone.

Brilliant.

[Sassy]

He did look like Champ Bailey on that TD though ;D

[7 4ever]

Nah, just let the skins pay the big bucks to sign him and then after next season we can abuse them by sending them Tatum! :wiggle:

[DBroncos4life]

I think it would be easier and cheaper to pry Smoot from the Skins. It was a down year for him and he doesn't look the same without Champ so maybe it would be better for him to join us. If he could get back to the 03-04 form it would be great. Only question is where is the nearest lake in Denver?

[Atlas]

I hope everyone here realizes that Samuel is going to get around $8 million a year, maybe more.

[Ratboy]

We've got Paymah and Foxworth.

[ol number 7]

We've got Paymah and Foxworth.

What we really need is a Woolfolk type to get a push. When NE's D was fresh they got great pressure on Manning and he couldn't get it going. Time of possession killed the Pats. Manning was always out there. Thought the genius Belicheck could stop 'em on third and long.

[Rohirrim]

Next year, the salary cap goes up considerably. The smart teams bring great players in to win this year and design the contracts to pay fat bonuses with kickers coming out of next year's caps. The Broncos are pros at this kind of manipulation of the cap. If they really wanted Asante, or Justin Smith, or Kerney, or Graham, they'd figure out a way to make it happen. I agree with the thought that the Pats will franchise Asante. If they don't, Nate Clement is also on the market, which might cool out the prices somewhat.

Where the Broncos need the most help is at DT. I don't see any in this FA market that are much better than what the Broncos already have. Who are you going to get? Vonnie? Cory Redding? He had 8 sacks. I hear Keith Traylor is on the market. Is he any good? Ha! Then again, do the Bronco's Dline players suck, or were they stopped from rushing by a coach's scheme? Pryce seemed to think so. So, do you go get Justin Smith and then make him stuff the run and keep blockers off of the LBs? Do the Broncos even intend to go for sacks? Do the Broncos even care about sacks? Maybe they care more about stuffing the run? Maybe that's why they keep going cheap on the Dline?

Maybe their thinking is to beef up the secondary and give the Dline more time to get to the QB? I seem to remember the rush being just one or two seconds short of a number of sacks this last season. The coverage just wasn't there. You've got to admit, Asante's 10 INTs would look pretty good on the Bronco's stat sheet. Of course, maybe that's completely off the mark as well.

Maybe the Broncos trade for Michael Turner, bring in Steinbach and Graham, and beef up the running game, and draft the WR Meachem with #21? The truth is, none of us know what Big Mike thinks is the proper direction for this team. We're all guessing. Judging by the fact that nobody knew he was going after Cutler until he did it (hell, he didn't even talk to the kid), none of us will know until the draft is over.

[Steve Sewell]

im all for this if we can make our d-line better through a free agent or two and draft. i just think if we get one or two more d-lineman or one great one plus a great cover corner in samuel our d would be unstopable.

Cornerback is the least of our worries. Like one of the posters said...why pay a CB #1 money to be our #2, when there are much more pressing needs on the defense. I think either Foxworth or Paymah can handle the load. What we need in order of importance are: 1) a stud DE or DT, 2) a stude DE or DT, 3) a ballhawking safety. Those are areas where we've been severely lacking of late.

[Rohirrim]

Cornerback is the least of our worries. Like one of the posters said...why pay a CB #1 money to be our #2, when there are much more pressing needs on the defense. I think either Foxworth or Paymah can handle the load. What we need in order of importance are: 1) a stud DE or DT, 2) a stude DE or DT, 3) a ballhawking safety. Those are areas where we've been severely lacking of late.

CB may not be the Bronco's number one need, but it's certainly not the "least." DW (God rest his soul) was getting burned often enough, and neither Paymah nor Foxworth could surpass him on the depth chart. It would be great to have a "stud" DE, DT, and a ballhawking safety. Who do you suggest? You also have to answer the question in my post above; Do the Broncos care as much about a pass rush as they do about stopping the run?