What position should Denver overpay in FA?

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Should Denver pay anyone more than the league minimum in FA?

Poll forthcoming.

[Clockwork Orange]

Absolutely not. They should only be interested in high end free agents who are willing to take a pay cut to play here. Javon Walker should restructure the contract extension that hasn't even kicked in yet and Jay Cutler should give back a portion of his signing bonus, too.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

God Bless sarcasm

[Clockwork Orange]

Sarcasm? That's seemingly the prevailing attitude on this board.

I remember when people flipped their lids over Champ Bailey's contract. The reality is that we have people here who don't want the Broncos to actually pay anybody.

[OrangeShadow]

defensive line

[Jens1893]

Either DE or DT ... address the other position in the draft. And NO to Dwight Freeney.

[footstepsfrom#27]

Whatever Foster's making to anyone who is not Foster.

[eddie mac]

DE and DT. Pat get your wallet out.

[DBroncos4life]

Whatever Foster's making to anyone who is not Foster.

He's making crap.

[WABronco]

Outside of a few DE's, is there really anything worth overpaying for?

[eddie mac]

Grant and Sands, both deals should be close to $100m in total.

[MechanicalBull]

Outside of a few DE's, is there really anything worth overpaying for?

That's how I feel. It depends on the player and not really the position. The DL of course needs some work and new blood but there is no point in spending money and overpaying someone the likes of Kenard Lang and John Engleberger.

I would love to see Denver make a big splash in FA and sign a top guy for the defensive line but I'm thinking they will a cap friendly vet or two and just say we have the guys to get to the QB and Bates and the new DL coach from Atlanta is all we really needed.

[Jens1893]

Grant and Sands, both deals should be close to $100m in total.

Sign one of them ... and draft a guy for the other position. Sorry, but I really don´t like building through Free Agency. You can pick up a guy or two in FA, but I prefer drafting and developing your own players.

[Odysseus]

It really depends on whose out there at OL and DT. If we can get a great guy here who we don't have to overpay then do it.

[HEAV]

My heart said go for the flash of a DE. But my head said get the Ol, namely a Gaurd that has expereince and an attitude.

The 07 draft is loaded with DE/DT and RB. Starting talent will be found in the first few rounds.


Getting a solid guard like a Stienbach,Locklear,Dockery,Gray would solidify the line and allow Jay some time in the pocket.

My hope is that FA 07 gives Denver a OG,backup QB, vet corner. Then the 07 draft gives us a RB, DE,DT

[Rock Chalk]

All of the above.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Broncs will not have the cap space to get the big name DL. Sign Graham and overpay slightly at TE for a guy who can free a roster spot by taking the place of both Alexaner and Jackson. Then over pay for the best safety out there which wll cost much less than a premium DL. Don't waste money on an over the hill RB. Take care of DL and RB on the first day of the draft.

[Rock Chalk]

Id rather them go after guys that you know, arent in a Brown uniform is all. That means spending a little grip.

[WABronco]

Getting a solid guard like a Stienbach,Locklear,Dockery,Gray would solidify the line and allow Jay some time in the pocket.

Locklear's a RT, and a RFA. If he's not tendered the first round contract (for some reason), he would be a sick pickup for a third round pick.

Gray is old as hell...

[Drek]

Depends on the players available at the position and how much of an overpay it is.

Case in point, I think Daniel Graham offers a $3M per season player. However, he's still pretty young, not going to bring off field issues with him, and has proven himself a fundamental player over multiple seasons, not just a single flash. Therefore if it required $4-$5M to land him I wouldn't feel too bad about it.

Now someone like Terdell Sands or Corey Redding, both are young and had good seasons, but its their first real good season. There's a big bust potential there so I wouldn't want to guarantee more than $3M a season to either of them.

So for me its more players than positions. I'd be willing to overpay for Daniel Graham, I'd overpay for Justin Smith without batting an eye, and if Shanahan really thought we needed CB help I'd be fine with overpaying Asante Samuels or Nate Clements. I don't want to give big contracts to solid players who might reach the next level (Charles Grant) or one year wonders.

[HEAV]

Locklear's a RT, and a RFA. If he's not tendered the first round contract (for some reason), he would be a sick pickup for a third round pick.

Gray is old as hell...


Wasn't he guard last year? I thought he had to move out to RT because of injury to Womack?

Either way he's one hell of a player.

Gray may be long in the tooth, but he still has value for a few years.

I just hope we get upgrades on the O-line in 2007.

[SpringStein]

The 07 draft is loaded with DE/DT and RB. Starting talent will be found in the first few rounds.


Agree with DE.

Disagree with DT and RB.

Strengths of this draft include WR/LB/DE/S.

[footstepsfrom#27]

He's making crap.
So we get what we pay for huh?

[DenverBrit]

So we get what we pay for huh?

Pay peanuts and you get monkeys.

[orinjkrush]

we're good at money management. not as good at talent assessment.
that said, I'd be happy with a stud RDE, RB, CB or S. In that order.

[Killericon]

Overpay in FA? HAH!

I could see Shanny giving an obscene contract to someone like Carlislie, but never an outsider...Unless we get him through trade.

Watch us sign a huge FA now.

[Atlas]

I don't care which way Shanny goes. The most glaring need is on the DL and a rookie might not be able to help right away. Get a stud DL then Draft a OL, RB, S, CB, WR.... not necessarily in that order.

[BroncoBuff]

Adelius Thomas and Deon Grant ... Thomas will be expensive, but not obscene.

[Play2win]

Adelius Thomas and Deon Grant ... Thomas will be expensive, but not obscene.

Would love that, and I had been a big Gold backer. But, it is obvious now, unless we get KILLER DT's, Gold just can't last the entire season @ Will as a FT starter.

[chaz]

i think our o-line is fine...with kuper ready to step in should we let carlisle go, and pears/meadows ready to boost the RT position i think all we need is 1-2 late 2nd day picks to put on the practice squad for a year.

i hope in FA we LOOK at Graham at TE, Sands at DT, Smith and others at DE, Hamlin and Grant at S, and a vet WR/CB....then see who will be the best value and go after them. expect to overpay, but one or two impact starters would be good to grab.

then draft to fill in the holes...we should be able to fill most of them with the strengths of both the draft and FA.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Adelius Thomas and Deon Grant ... Thomas will be expensive, but not obscene.

Thomas is one of the top 2-3 FAs on the market, he's going to get an obscene deal.

[SoCalBronco]

I'd prefer to be a bit player in FA like last year. Everyone is going to get relatively obscene deals this year. FA should be the least frequently used of the three major methods to improve our team. Where we should spend money is in the areas where it is really vital and where there is no cap...coaching and scouts. Im tired of constantly being up against the cap and having to keep re-working everyone. I like the fact that we can be creative, but often we are forced to be creative because there isnt alot of money to work with due to previous big contracts doled out. Look for bargains and system fits. Wait till the first wave is over. Every year work to accumulate more picks by dealing replaceable players and accepting equal (in other words, no premium for the team moving up that they would otherwise usually pay) or slightly less than equal "chart value" in order to get deals done. Build through the draft and through trades. Be moderate in FA.

[Orange_Beard]

If you think Champ is great now, wait till he is facing a "pressured" QB.

[houghtam]

Can anyone give me a legitimate answer as to WHY Daniel Graham would want to come here to be a backup (or even compete for starter), when there are any number of other teams out there willing to spend money on him as their starter?

[Atlas]

Can anyone give me a legitimate answer as to WHY Daniel Graham would want to come here to be a backup (or even compete for starter), when there are any number of other teams out there willing to spend money on him as their starter?

A better Questions is why would Shanny pay him starters money to come in and be a backup when he already has a good TE in Alexander that will do it much cheaper.

[fontaine]

A better Questions is why would Shanny pay him starters money to come in and be a backup when he already has a good TE in Alexander that will do it much cheaper.


Cheaper? Alexander has a $1.5 million salary this year, plus whatever his SB was prorated to his third year.

The guy can't block for sh*t, and he's a slow unreliable TE.

Get me Daniel Graham and cut Alexander.

[fontaine]

And as far as overpaying for a FA?

I have no idea. I was hoping we'd get a run stuffing DE with some pass rush moves like Charles Grant.

But he wasn't even a fat blip on the radar yesterday. Forget sacks, how do you not even register a single tackle when Chicago runs the ball 43 times in what was the biggest game in the history of the Saints franchise? In your contract year no less? Especially with someone like Will Smith tearing azz on the other side to occupy double teams?

Cory Redding and Deon Grant please.

[BroncoBuff]

Get me Daniel Graham and cut Alexander.

I'm a Buff so I'd love to have Graham, but .... his game is quite similar to, and not all THAT much better than SA. They're both big, solid blockers, and dependable targets in the red zone. I'll grant you Graham is better, but not enough better to forego a Justin Smith/Deon Grant signing. Same thing with Eric Steinbach. I'd love to have the guy ... but I'd 150% rather have Adelius Thomas. It's all about the prudent expenditure of limited resources. Losing Plummer's and Foster's salaries will help, but we can't sign everybody.


Would love [Adelius], and I had been a big Gold backer. But, it is obvious now, unless we get KILLER DT's, Gold just can't last the entire season @ Will as a FT starter.
Yup ... I hate to say "I told you so," (actually, I LOVE to say "I told you so"): All last off-season, I was pimping Big Daddy Dan Wilkinson. He was UFA and wanted outta Detroit. He was even talking retirement after playing practically every down for 3+ years. But we didn't even make an offer, so he signed with Miami.

He wouldda been PERFECT in our 4-DT rotation.

[Hotrod]

Give me a nice big fatty in the middle of that Dline. :pray:

Of course many on this board have been asking for one year after year.

[Steve Sewell]

I just have this unusual feeling that people are going to be really, REALLY pissed off after the first day of the draft...

DP headline: "Shanahan drafts Smardzija in 1st round...confident he can convince him to play in NFL"

[Crushaholic]

Give me a nice big fatty in the middle of that Dline. :pray:

Of course many on this board have been asking for one year after year.

That doesn't mean we can't repeat the mantra until it happens. D-line...D-line...D-line...Shanahan, you're getting sleepy...You will do what we tell you to do...D-line...D-line...ohmmmmmmmm.....