Broncos Dream Drafts

[Broncoman13]

Put your Broncos Dream Draft here.

#1. Adam Carriker, DE/DT, Nebraska (He can move inside on passing downs. We tried it with Elvis, Carriker has the size and the experience) I'm really warming up to this guy. He could fill two roles for our team. Improving the run defense while playing DE and adding some push up the middle on passing downs. This allows both Lang and Elvis to stay on the field in these situations.
#2. Aaron Ross, CB, Texas. A good cover corner though he does have lapses at times. Also brings a lot to the table in terms of ST's. Considering that only Foxworth and Champ are proven on the roster, it's important to draft a CB on day one. I'd love to have McCauley in the first round, but after people see him run and see a little more of him... well, he'll end up being the first corner taken. Leon Hall will fall to us before McCauley does. I have a lot of respect for Pat Hill, and he calls McCauley the best athlete he's ever seen. So basically, we're settling for Aaron Ross in the 2nd, which is a fine consolation prize.
#3. Tony Hunt, RB, Penn St. He's been very productive in a conference that is tough to run in. He's got great power, decent speed, and is probably the best RB in the draft when it comes to little things like pass protection and leadership. I'm torn right now between Michael Bush and Tony Hunt, but I'm leaning toward Hunt b/c of the lack of injuries, the power running, and the little things he does to win games.
#3b. Dan Bazuin, DE, Central Michigan. I know, we just drafted Carriker in the first. Bazuin is just too good to pass up here. In fact, there's a good chance that he goes earlier. He's been very productive and NFL teams are starting to realize that some of these "small school" boys can play some serious ball! Bazuin ruled the Shrine game tonight and by most accounts was a terror all week long during the practices. Safety is a need for sure, but with a strong pass rush we can surely get by with what we have now.
#5. Sabby Piscitelli, DS, Oregon St. All he does is make plays. Yet the word on him is that he lacks a true position. Well I have one for him and it's a big need for our team. Special Teams. Piscitelli has the size/speed to be a great special teamer though he likely will never be more than a back-up at safety. He did have 15 career INTs at OSU so he has to be doing something right, but make no mistake he's not a coverage guy at safety.
#6. Ramonce Taylor, RB, x-Texas. Ramonce was on pace to be a 2007 or 2008 first round draft pick. While he doesn't have ideal size (5-10, 195#) he has exceptional speed. In fact, he's just a tremendous athlete through and through. If you all recall, this is the guy that UT was proclaiming to be "their own Reggie Bush". While he is far from Reggie Bush and carries a ton of baggage (serving jail time on weekends for a conviction of having nearly 5 lbs of Texas/Mexico's finest) he is a great return man, a very good RB, and he can catch the ball extremely well out of the back field. He's a guy that can cut on a dime and gets to full speed in a few short steps. Not real good about following his blocks, but his vision is obvious. If Tatum parts ways this offseason I think he would be an excellent pick and could give us those 7-10 touches a game from the RB position like Tatum from 05... and a potential return man. See the speed, cuts, and hands: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOXvVKTzKsI
#7. Jared Zabransky, QB, OhBoise St. He's a firery guy that could probably make a name for himself on defense as well. Either way, we don't have Cutler's back-up on the roster at the moment. Not many choices in Free Agency. I don't really like the idea of having to groom two QB's at the same time. If we sign a QB in free agency then I think we'll go after a guy that has slipped due to injuries. If not for already drafting Tony Hunt and Ramonce Taylor I would guess that Justin Vincent, RB, LSU would be Shanny's type of guy. This is a Mike Shanahan pick if I've ever seen one. Vincent was injured just about every season at LSU, but as a Freshman he rushed for over 1000 yards with guys like Addai on the roster. At the very least it allows Shanny his annual IR draft pick which basically stocks him away for next year. Also keep an eye on David Ball. Most are projecting him as a 6th round pick but I think he'll go undrafted unless someone takes a flyer on him late on Sunday. He's a prolific D2 receiver and has good height. Unfortunately his speed is poor (4.6 range) and his routes didn't look very sharp.

[bpc]

I love the potential of the draft. I'm not a huge Carriker fan but I haven't watched him that much yet either. We got a lot of depth from this draft, the thing that is going to kill me about it is where are the DT's? We are horribly thin at that position and it would be shameful if we go into next season with just Warren at that position again. There are some college teams that have more talent at DT than we do.

[Drek]

Trade #21 for SF's '07 3rd (75) and 4th (107), '08 1st and 4th.
Trade Tatum Bell to NYG for their 3rd rounder (#84).
Trade #53, #70, and SF '08 4th Rd. to CLE/TB for #35.

#35: Adam Carriker, DE, NEB - provides a big power end who can also move inside to DT on pass rushing downs. I'm predicting a late 4's 40, hurting his stock badly enough to slide him out of the first. Alternate: Quinn Pitcock, DT, PSU.

#75: Mason Crosby, P/K, COL - will be a big help to our special teams as a punter, in a year or two he'll take over for Elam as our kicker, saving a roster spot and offering a big leg. I think he'll still be available in the early 3rd as most view him as a punter due to iffy FG% in college. Punters don't normally go this early, so he should be here. Alternate: Brian Leonard, FB, RUT.

#84: Michael Bush/Brandon Jackson, RB, LOU/NEB - I think either of them could slide this far, making them a great value pick to address our RB spot by giving Mike Bell some legit competition. Alternate: Tony Hunt

#85: John Wendling, S, WYO - Deep safety class will let us grab a big and fast hard hitter in the 3rd. Would provide a spark plug on special teams coverage and contend with Ferguson and Brandon in case they've each lost a step post-injuries. Alternate: Tom Zbikowski, S, ND.

#107 - Brandon Mebane, DT, CAL - His stock isn't very high but he's a solid football player who could at the least be a solid backup. Alternate: Braka Atkins, DE, MIA.

#149 - Ryan Harris, OT, ND - Veteran starter from a pro style offense that asked a lot of him, pulling, cutting, etc.. Good blocker in space, very mobile for a guy just south of 300 pounds. Would be an ideal fit for us.

#181 - Yamon Figurs, WR, KSU - Special teams returner with elite speed, a similar player to Hixon, the two of them can vie for return duties and with Kircus for #4 WR. Alternate: Matt Trannon, WR, MSU.

#213 - Corey Anderson, FB, TEN - Big fullback who is a great athlete. Would be a great pickup for our future FB spot. Alternate: Justin Zwick, QB, OSU.

FA moves:
Sign Terdell Sands, DT, OAK. Big guy who is looking for a starting job. Would fit well in Bates' system and togther with Warren and Wilson behind them crush any inside runs.

Sign Daniel Graham, TE, NE. TEs get underpaid compared to their production and Graham would provide us with a good blocker and red zone target that'll help us improve red zone effectiveness.

[BombsOverBaghdad]

(Overlooked this thread ........ will merge my thoughts here)

Since the season ended my thoughts have turned to this off-season and what direction are the Broncos going. A little over a week ago a read a post that someone opined that the Broncos have a window of 3 years or so with our current defense and in order to maximize this time frame we needed to look to fill our major holes through FA. Conversely, with the youth of Cutler, Marshall, Sheff, ... etc. -- that the Broncos will look to draft for the offense and build it to be at a peak in 3 to 5 years.

(It was a great post that was well reasoned -- I have been unable to locate it -- if the author is reading this will he please re-post it here?)

Then this morning, I came across this post from the RMN blog:
http://blogs.rockymountainnews.com/d...g_an_earl.html


Quote:
It's true that the interior Defensive line was lacking in pressure and the ability to stop the run. However, you can't overlook the impact of the injury to Sam Brandon and Nick Furgeson. When the Broncos play without those safeties it puts Lynch in a situation that doesn't benifit his current playing abilities. Basically speaking, John Lynch in space is bad for the Broncos.
The two most productive first round picks that the Broncos could possibly have are:
1) Stud running back: Patterson / Marshawn Lynch
2) Safety: Landry / Nelson.
If they can't trade up to get one of those four players, or if one doesn't fall into their lap, then they take the best defensive front seven player available. And that includes linebacker.
A top flight running back has the greatest ability to transorm the entire Denver Broncos team. Third down conversions keep your offense on the field and the defense off the field. The teams current inabilites to stave off late game drives of opposing teams and their own inability to sustain drives is the main reason they are not a far better team.

The addition of Petterson or Lynch makes that team far more productive and dangerous. If the opposing defense has to honor the run first, then Jay Cutler will shred the field, the defense will rest, time of possesion will increase, the offensive line will look better, the deffensive line will look better, the score will look better, etc........

Look for Denver to try to trade up to the Redskins pick if Adrian Petterson slides past Cleveland at the third or fourth pick. Or look for denver to try to move up to the 13 spot by trading with St. Louis if Marshawn Lynch gets past Houston at number 8. If niether of those senerious pan out then the Broncos should hold pat at pick 21. If there is a top flight safety then that should be there pick. If not, then they should trade back to early 2nd round and take a fly on Micheal Bush out of Louisville whom would've been a top ten pick if not for a season ending leg injury in game one of the 2006 season.

Go Broncos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Craig on January 20, 2007 11:31 AM


In my view, both of these positions are true and therefore give you my proposed off-season plan:

Sign FA Justin Smith DE
Sign FA Terdell Sands DT

Trade #1 pick (#21), Tatum Bell, & #4 pick to New York Jets for their two #2's (#38 & #57) and their #3

Draft:
2A -- Michael Bush RB Louisville
2B -- Joe Staley OT C. Michigan
(we would probably need to trade up to get Staley as he the #4 Tackle on most boards and will not be here at #56)
2C -- Eric Weddel S Utah

3A -- Dan Bazuin DE C. Michigan
3B -- Brandon Mebane DT California
(he may also go higher than what I have here)
3C -- Jacoby Jones WR Lane

For the remainder of the draft, I would take the best Gaurd or Center available and throw in -- Issaih Stanback athlete Washington (who is my sleeper pick of the draft)

After (or during) the draft, I would trade Plummer and Foster for whatever conditional future picks I could get. Then cut Demtrien Veal.

Any thoughts or criticisms?

[Elway777]

The Broncos trade 21 pick plus 2008 second rounder to Pittsburgh to move up and draft Marshawn Lynch.The Broncos also trade George Foster for a 4 round pick.The Bronco also trade Tatum Bell for a 3 rounder .1 .Marshawn Lynch 2. Joe Stanley 3a Dan Buzuin 3b Marcus Thomas 3c David Irons 4. Ola Dagundura 5. Garry Russell 6. Yamon Figurs7. Zake Deossie.The Broncos add Ken Hamlin and Chis Kelsay as free agents plus resign Myers.

[Rascal]

Sign FA Justin Smith DE
Sign FA Terdell Sands DT

Trade #1 pick (#21), Tatum Bell, & #4 pick to New York Jets for their two #2's (#38 & #57) and their #3

Draft:
2A -- Michael Bush RB Louisville
2B -- Joe Staley OT C. Michigan
(we would probably need to trade up to get Staley as he the #4 Tackle on most boards and will not be here at #56)
2C -- Eric Weddel S Utah

3A -- Dan Bazuin DE C. Michigan
3B -- Brandon Mebane DT California
(he may also go higher than what I have here)
3C -- Jacoby Jones WR Lane

For the remainder of the draft, I would take the best Gaurd or Center available and throw in -- Issaih Stanback athlete Washington (who is my sleeper pick of the draft)

After (or during) the draft, I would trade Plummer and Foster for whatever conditional future picks I could get. Then cut Demtrien Veal.

Any thoughts or criticisms?

I wouldn't cut Veal (he's dirt cheap, young, and he is a high motor guy), but I would not resign Myers.

Add to that list to resign Carlisle and sign Graham and that would be incredible.

I doubt Jacoby Jones will be available at the last third rounder. He is moving up the draft boards.

[mattob14]

If we stay where we are:
#1- Michael Griffin, S, Texas. He would provide an active, athletic Safety who is effective in coverage and run support. Extremely productive in college, he's also a kick-blocking specialist who could improve our special teams.

#2- Ikaika Alama-Francis, DE, Hawaii. There aren't a lot of players in this draft with the potential to be good RDE's. Alama-Francis is 6'5" 280+ and runs in the 4.8-range. Those who have watched film have come back impressed and he could be a steal.

#3a- Brandon Mebane, DT, Cal. An active, slightly undersized DT who can get penetration. Even if he only serves as a rotational player, we need depth and someone who can play in the opposition's backfield.

#3b- Johnnie Lee Higgins, WR, UTEP. Good hands, speed and return ability, but size and strength are in question. He'd be a quality slot receiver and returner. We'd probably have to trade up to the top of the third to get him, but this our dream draft, right?

#5- Gary Russell, RB, Minnesota. Running back with good size and speed who was compared favorably to MBIII and Maroney as a sophomore. Missed a year due to eligibility issues, but could be a nice project this late in the draft.

#6- Abraham Wright, DE, Colorado. I know, the Broncos don't pick CU players, but he was productive in college and could be a pass-rush specialist. The more talent we can add to the DL, the better.

#7- Jeff Samardzija, WR, Notre Dame. Someone mentioned the idea of reserving his rights in another thread and it sounds good to me. If he comes back to football in a couple of years, it'd be nice to have the first shot at him.

This addresses our primary needs, provides depth and improves all three facets of the team. The only other thing I'd like to see is a trade of Plummer, Tatum, Foster, etc. to pick up another late-3rd/4th and draft Doug Free. He could develop into a nice left tackle over time.


My IDEAL draft:
Trade #21 for the Jets #2 (#57 overall) and #1 next year. Pick up Alama-Francis and Mebane in round 2, Higgins at 3a and John Wendling at 3b. The rest of the picks remain the same.

[Rascal]

I'm against the whole idea of trading our first for a second and a first next year. We need to improve this team now, not stockpile picks for another year.

[mattob14]

I'm against the whole idea of trading our first for a second and a first next year. We need to improve this team now, not stockpile picks for another year.

There are a lot of people on the board who agree with that, but I think it boils down to how you feel about the talent that's available. The end result of the trade scenario in my post is Griffin for Wendling and a first next year. I do like Griffin better and he'd probably start next year, but Wendling is a good prospect as well, could provide depth for a year before taking a starting spot, and has the size/speed to be a nice special teamer for us. I think that's a trade worth making to set us up for a GREAT draft next year, regardless of how much I like Griffin.

[Drek]

I'm against the whole idea of trading our first for a second and a first next year. We need to improve this team now, not stockpile picks for another year.

I'm all for it because I just don't see a big enough talent differential between 21 to the mid second to make our first real valuable. I'd be surprised if we find a team picking after 18 (where they need to be for us to get a 2nd this year with an '08 first and keep the points fair) willing to do a deal unless they want to jump up higher in the draft.

This draft is strong at DL, S, and WR, other than that its pretty weak outside the top 15 or so guys. Thankfully those are positions we could use some help at. I'd like to see us slide back, grab some of the talented depth at those positions (primarily DL and S), and focus our cash resources saved by not signing a first to get some quality FAs.

[bpc]

I've been saying a lot of the same things. I think the defensive line is a concern... no so much on the end's as we have had on the interior. Very easy to rectify this... I would totally go after Justin Smith who is a true every down DE. He will bolster our run defense and our pass defense. He is as close to a impact/safe buy as there is... he has never had injury problems in his time with the NFL. I think he is a better buy than that of Grant Wistrom whom the Seahawks signed a few years back and it sparked their play on the DL over the past two seasons. We should just find a way to get this done.

At safety, we are lacking a difference maker. Lynch has about a season or two left of ability to keep him in the game. Brandon should be healed by then and ready to take his spot. We need a difference maker at safety eventually, I'm in favor of Michael Griffin from UT. I think he is going to be a ball hawlk who can make the plays that a high effort Nick Ferguson just can't do.

In terms of a HB... we need to find a answer here but I don't think drafting high in going to be an option in this draft. I think we are better to find a hungry vet and some young guys in the draft to battle it out this season. The only vet that I am in love with is Adrian Peterson and I think even with him, his career is going to be shortened by injury.

I have reservations about Lynch, I think he is a more instinctive Tatum Bell. He comes up limp for too often for my tastes.

Bush looks talented but doesn't run the way his size my indicate. Plus he is coming off an injury.

Tony Hunt has had a solid career but is inimpressive in huge games which concerns me.

D. Walker has had an impressive season but most ND fans aren't even in love with him.

L. Booker from FSU has never dominated the collegiate level and may be a HB in the mold of Reggie Bush. He could be a sleeper.

DeShawn Wynn from UF is impressive physically but his attitude is not... they said he got caught talking on his CELL-PHONE during practice. How stupid is that?

Ahmad Bradshaw is a intrigueing mid-major conference player who has a nice mix of size and speed.

Dewayne Wright, Nate Illoa, and Garrett Wolfe are all sleepers that I like late in the draft. I think they provide great value where they are at and all could develop into very good players. I think Wolfe is vastly underated for his production but his size is going to hold him back. Nate Illoa has incredible speed for his size 5'9" 250lbs and he runs with a purpose but his work ethic and ability to keep his weight in check is going to make him slide. Wright came back from a serious knee injury two seasons ago to put together a very solid season for an underachieving Fresno State team. His knee will have to be checked out but his size and speed project nicely in the NFL and he is the type of player we would normally find late in the draft.

There are a few more guys on this list that are interesting like the kid from Uof Az and also Gary Russell. My player in bold are my interesting players.

1. FA - Sign Justin Smith/Daniel Graham/Vet HB
2. Draft Michael Griffin - S - UT with our first overall selection. Add's impact defensive player in the middle of our lineup.
3. Add great value selections at DT with the next two rounds of draft picks. I would also be open to the rest of the 1st days draft going to defensive players.

4. Have a great 2nd day of our draft. We added a ton of talent last year doing the same thing. I think value will be there for us too, especially at QB/HB and CB.

[Broncoman13]

(Overlooked this thread ........ will merge my thoughts here)

Since the season ended my thoughts have turned to this off-season and what direction are the Broncos going. A little over a week ago a read a post that someone opined that the Broncos have a window of 3 years or so with our current defense and in order to maximize this time frame we needed to look to fill our major holes through FA. Conversely, with the youth of Cutler, Marshall, Sheff, ... etc. -- that the Broncos will look to draft for the offense and build it to be at a peak in 3 to 5 years.

(It was a great post that was well reasoned -- I have been unable to locate it -- if the author is reading this will he please re-post it here?)

Then this morning, I came across this post from the RMN blog:
http://blogs.rockymountainnews.com/d...g_an_earl.html


Quote:
It's true that the interior Defensive line was lacking in pressure and the ability to stop the run. However, you can't overlook the impact of the injury to Sam Brandon and Nick Furgeson. When the Broncos play without those safeties it puts Lynch in a situation that doesn't benifit his current playing abilities. Basically speaking, John Lynch in space is bad for the Broncos.
The two most productive first round picks that the Broncos could possibly have are:
1) Stud running back: Patterson / Marshawn Lynch
2) Safety: Landry / Nelson.
If they can't trade up to get one of those four players, or if one doesn't fall into their lap, then they take the best defensive front seven player available. And that includes linebacker.
A top flight running back has the greatest ability to transorm the entire Denver Broncos team. Third down conversions keep your offense on the field and the defense off the field. The teams current inabilites to stave off late game drives of opposing teams and their own inability to sustain drives is the main reason they are not a far better team.

The addition of Petterson or Lynch makes that team far more productive and dangerous. If the opposing defense has to honor the run first, then Jay Cutler will shred the field, the defense will rest, time of possesion will increase, the offensive line will look better, the deffensive line will look better, the score will look better, etc........

Look for Denver to try to trade up to the Redskins pick if Adrian Petterson slides past Cleveland at the third or fourth pick. Or look for denver to try to move up to the 13 spot by trading with St. Louis if Marshawn Lynch gets past Houston at number 8. If niether of those senerious pan out then the Broncos should hold pat at pick 21. If there is a top flight safety then that should be there pick. If not, then they should trade back to early 2nd round and take a fly on Micheal Bush out of Louisville whom would've been a top ten pick if not for a season ending leg injury in game one of the 2006 season.

Go Broncos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Craig on January 20, 2007 11:31 AM


In my view, both of these positions are true and therefore give you my proposed off-season plan:

Sign FA Justin Smith DE
Sign FA Terdell Sands DT

Trade #1 pick (#21), Tatum Bell, & #4 pick to New York Jets for their two #2's (#38 & #57) and their #3

Draft:
2A -- Michael Bush RB Louisville
2B -- Joe Staley OT C. Michigan
(we would probably need to trade up to get Staley as he the #4 Tackle on most boards and will not be here at #56)
2C -- Eric Weddel S Utah

3A -- Dan Bazuin DE C. Michigan
3B -- Brandon Mebane DT California
(he may also go higher than what I have here)
3C -- Jacoby Jones WR Lane

For the remainder of the draft, I would take the best Gaurd or Center available and throw in -- Issaih Stanback athlete Washington (who is my sleeper pick of the draft)

After (or during) the draft, I would trade Plummer and Foster for whatever conditional future picks I could get. Then cut Demtrien Veal.

Any thoughts or criticisms?


Very good with a lot of though going into the whole plan. I don't disagree that a RB like Adrian Peterson would be worth a trade up. Don't know about Lynch though. Several have said he'll be a better pro than Peterson so there must be something there. I think it's more likely that Lynch slides to around 15 though.

Also, you mentioned Joe Staley. He is actually the #2 rated OT on several boards, but he is a system Tackle. Teams like Atlanta, Houston, Denver, Green Bay, and Kansas City will be watching him closely. My guess is that Atlanta or GB take him in the 2nd round before we pick. The main reason he is sliding is b/c he doesn't have the prototypical OT size. He's a hell of an athlete though and if the rumors are true that he can run in the 4.7 range he'll only improve his draft stock. But again, it will be someone that is in desperate need of an OT (KC) or one of the zone running teams (Denver, GB, Atlanta, Houston). He's a better prospect than Levi Brown but Brown will almost definately go before Staley.

You've missed some of my posts talking about the safeties. Landry is excellent and I think he'll be a Darren Sharper like Safety. Several Pro-bowls are in his future. Reggie Nelson is a very risky pick IMO. He's only come on as a Sr. and only played D1 ball for 2 years. Couple that with his slight frame (180 +/- 5 lbs) and the fact that he doesn't help very much in run support as evidenced by his 50 tackles last year. Throw in Michael Griffin in your talk of first round safeties. Once this guy runs (low 4.4's) and gets a chance to work out for scouts he'll really open some eyes. He has better size (6' 205) and really brings it strong in run support (124 and 126 tackles the past two years). He's no slouch in pass defense either having intercepted 3 passes two years ago with 8 PBU (both more than Nelson in 05) and 4 Ints w/ 10 PBU (2 int's less than Nelson, but double the amount of passes defensed). So, with 2 1/2 times the tackles as Nelson and only 2 ints less, you have to wonder why he's not ahead of Nelson already. Better size, equal speed (I think Nelson will run low 4.4 as well), more experience (Griffin has started games for 3 years now), a better run defender, and arguably an equal pass defender. The one knock on Griffin, he'll miss some tackles by trying to knock a guy out instead of wrapping up. I wouldn't say he's as good as Michael Huff, but he's closer to Huff than people think.

Depending on what Carriker runs in the 40 I think he should be our first pick. Pressure from our DL on 3rd downs being the key. Carriker at 295 lbs has experience playing DT and would be a great pass rushing DT on obvious passing situations. Obviously a 295 lb DE is going to clog things up and help tremendously in the run defense dept. Plus, he's not a bad pass rusher from the edge to begin with. I like the thought of Dumervil, Carriker, Warren, and Lang/Ekuban on 3rd downs. That is a line that has potential to create havoc and get after QB's. It lessens the need to draft a DT early and allows us to keep guys off of our LB's in the run game. I agree with what BPC said eariler and yes, this thought process is putting a lot of eggs in once basket... but I'm also going on the assumption that we bring in a big DT in free agency. A guy like Terdell Sands though I think there are a few other big bodies available.

All in all, I like your plan and the thought process behind it. Don't know about the San Fran trade either. I think San Fran will win 9-10 games next year and they will be in the playoffs. So we'll end up with two picks, one in the 20's and our own at 32.

[Broncoman13]

Tony Hunt has had a solid career but is inimpressive in huge games which concerns me.

I'll admit that I'm a PSU fan, but Tony Hunt did not disappear in huge games.

2005 games: Ohio State 16-64-0; Michigan 14-102-0; Illinois 3-37-0; Purdue 24-129-0; Wisconsin 24-151-2; Michigan State 20-89-1 sat out the FSU bowl game with an early injury.

2006 games: went for 135 (5.6 ypc) vs Ohio State. went for 137 and 144 against Northwestern and Minnesota, 33 against Michigan (but had 85 yards receiving on 3 receptions), 142 against Purdue, only 35 vs Wisconsin (worst game of the season IMO), 130 vs Michigan St., and 158 yards against Tennessee in their bowl game, his final game.

So, in two years against Big 10 comp he's only had two games in which he just didn't perform that well. In his bowl game he ran for 158 yards (5.1 ypc). He does the little things that guys like Adrian Peterson, Michael Bush, and Marshawn Lynch have never been asked to do. He'll suffer from the typical PSU RB skepticsm, but he's a baller that will make a team very happy on Sundays. If he somehow falls to us in the 3rd I'll be upset if we don't call his name.

[Broncoman13]

#7- Jeff Samardzija, WR, Notre Dame. Someone mentioned the idea of reserving his rights in another thread and it sounds good to me. If he comes back to football in a couple of years, it'd be nice to have the first shot at him.



I resemble that remark! :strong:

I think there will be a few teams thinking along the same lines and will likely have him targeted in the 6th or 7th round. Makes sense. I hope we do it!

Anybody watch that clip of Ramonce Taylor. I'm telling you guys, especially those of you that want to trade Tatum Bell, he'd be a great fit. Just have to make sure his head is on straight and he's committed to playing ball and not being an idiot. Talent wise, he's ahead of every RB in this draft save for Lynch and Peterson!

[bpc]

If we stay where we are:
#1- Michael Griffin, S, Texas. He would provide an active, athletic Safety who is effective in coverage and run support. Extremely productive in college, he's also a kick-blocking specialist who could improve our special teams.

Perfect pick for us. We need to adopt the Ravens mentality towards the draft. We need to keep adding talent here... each season. Find the best value and keep adding. We have a solid core and Griffin projects as a very good player in our secondary for the future. He tackles, creates turnovers and has had an impact on the special teams which we are desperate for.

IF Griffin were gone, another guy that I've really contemplated for us from UT is Justin Blalock, OT/OG. The kid is just a rock when he is on the field. I would say that he is very good athletically, has great playing strength and his feet are very good. He can play OG or OT. He reminds me a lot of Tarik Glenn from the Colts. I do love the first pick though. Griffin would be a great value add for us.

#2- Ikaika Alama-Francis, DE, Hawaii. There aren't a lot of players in this draft with the potential to be good RDE's. Alama-Francis is 6'5" 280+ and runs in the 4.8-range. Those who have watched film have come back impressed and he could be a steal.

I doubt that Francis slides this far unless his peck injury is bad. Jarvis Moss could be a very nice possibility as well. Charles Grant could slide around this range too. The value at this pick should be very strong as I feel that the difference between the 3rd DE-8th DE is not that much difference. I really like Johnie Lee Higgins as well and we might have to take him with a 2nd if we are to take him. Another guy that I like but it may not be practical to select is Aaron Ross, CB, UT. He has had a great season over the past two years and has amazing size and speed. He could instantly challenge Paymah as our 3rd CB and could even steal PT from Fox. He is good.

#3a- Brandon Mebane, DT, Cal. An active, slightly undersized DT who can get penetration. Even if he only serves as a rotational player, we need depth and someone who can play in the opposition's backfield.

I'm a huge fan of his, I think he is going to be very good. He plays very similar to Booger McFarland. His burst off the snap is very good. He will impact our run defense. If he is fresh on passing downs, he will collapse the pocket as well.

#3b- Johnnie Lee Higgins, WR, UTEP. Good hands, speed and return ability, but size and strength are in question. He'd be a quality slot receiver and returner. We'd probably have to trade up to the top of the third to get him, but this our dream draft, right?

I still think that Higgins is a great player, he'll be picked in the 2nd round. His size is the only knock but his ability should not be. If you wanted to find a offensive sparkplug who is similar to what Darrent Williams was on defense, go with this guy. Will impact our passing game and also special teams. If we landed him and Griffin in the same class, it could dramatically turn around our ST units. I also would be for taking the best DL on the board still if Higgins was gone.

#5- Gary Russell, RB, Minnesota. Running back with good size and speed who was compared favorably to MBIII and Maroney as a sophomore. Missed a year due to eligibility issues, but could be a nice project this late in the draft.

#6- Abraham Wright, DE, Colorado. I know, the Broncos don't pick CU players, but he was productive in college and could be a pass-rush specialist. The more talent we can add to the DL, the better.

#7- Jeff Samardzija, WR, Notre Dame. Someone mentioned the idea of reserving his rights in another thread and it sounds good to me. If he comes back to football in a couple of years, it'd be nice to have the first shot at him.

This addresses our primary needs, provides depth and improves all three facets of the team. The only other thing I'd like to see is a trade of Plummer, Tatum, Foster, etc. to pick up another late-3rd/4th and draft Doug Free. He could develop into a nice left tackle over time.


My IDEAL draft:
Trade #21 for the Jets #2 (#57 overall) and #1 next year. Pick up Alama-Francis and Mebane in round 2, Higgins at 3a and John Wendling at 3b. The rest of the picks remain the same.

You would be charged with a crime if this draft happened.

[bpc]

I'll admit that I'm a PSU fan, but Tony Hunt did not disappear in huge games.

2005 games: Ohio State 16-64-0; Michigan 14-102-0; Illinois 3-37-0; Purdue 24-129-0; Wisconsin 24-151-2; Michigan State 20-89-1 sat out the FSU bowl game with an early injury.

2006 games: went for 135 (5.6 ypc) vs Ohio State. went for 137 and 144 against Northwestern and Minnesota, 33 against Michigan (but had 85 yards receiving on 3 receptions), 142 against Purdue, only 35 vs Wisconsin (worst game of the season IMO), 130 vs Michigan St., and 158 yards against Tennessee in their bowl game, his final game.

So, in two years against Big 10 comp he's only had two games in which he just didn't perform that well. In his bowl game he ran for 158 yards (5.1 ypc). He does the little things that guys like Adrian Peterson, Michael Bush, and Marshawn Lynch have never been asked to do. He'll suffer from the typical PSU RB skepticsm, but he's a baller that will make a team very happy on Sundays. If he somehow falls to us in the 3rd I'll be upset if we don't call his name.

I think I might have been overlooking his stats maybe. Admittedly, I looked at his info probably about a month ago and not since. I have some games on him though and I'll definitelly look them over more.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

#7- Jeff Samardzija, WR, Notre Dame. Someone mentioned the idea of reserving his rights in another thread and it sounds good to me. If he comes back to football in a couple of years, it'd be nice to have the first shot at him.


It's a good idea, but any team would only hold his rights for a year. I doubt he gives up the baseball career so fast, especially with the NFL contract he'd be in line to sign as a 7th round pick.

[mattob14]

You would be charged with a crime if this draft happened.

Hey, this is our dream draft, right? Honestly, I think it's probably a stretch to get all four of the first day picks, especially Higgins, but if we coupled our own 3rd with Tatum, we may be able to move up far enough to get him. The rest of the picks are all pretty reasonable, depending on Francis' recovery.

[mattob14]

It's a good idea, but any team would only hold his rights for a year. I doubt he gives up the baseball career so fast, especially with the NFL contract he'd be in line to sign as a 7th round pick.

I didn't realize the one-year rule, and I don't think he'd quit baseball that quick either, but considering this will be one of the final 15 or so picks in the draft, I still wouldn't mind taking the chance. Besides, I didn't know who else to add at that point, the seventh round is a crapshoot, to say the least.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

I didn't realize the one-year rule, and I don't think he'd quit baseball that quick either, but considering this will be one of the final 15 or so picks in the draft, I still wouldn't mind taking the chance. Besides, I didn't know who else to add at that point, the seventh round is a crapshoot, to say the least.

It was a great idea, too bad it's just not feasible with what the Cubs are paying him. I do wish there was longer than a one-year period on draft rights, but I don't think this situation comes up that often.

[Elway777]

I do a draft without any trades. 1.Adam Carriker 2. Eric Weddie 3a Dan Buzuin 3b Marcus Thomas 5. Garry Russell 6 Selvin Young 7 Ola Danundura

[Elway777]

I also like this draft 1 Tedd Ginn jr 2 .Dan Buzuin 3a Brandon Mebane 3b David Irons 5. Garry Russell 6 Selvin Young 7 Ola Dagundura

[Rascal]

So who else wishes we had drafted Anderson (DE-ALA) last year?

[rovolution]

It was a great idea, too bad it's just not feasible with what the Cubs are paying him. I do wish there was longer than a one-year period on draft rights, but I don't think this situation comes up that often.

the last situation like this i truly remember was Bo Jackson. The Bucs drafted him first, but then when he returned to football as a "hobby," the Faide got the rights to sign him.

[BombsOverBaghdad]

Very good with a lot of though going into the whole plan. I don't disagree that a RB like Adrian Peterson would be worth a trade up. Don't know about Lynch though. Several have said he'll be a better pro than Peterson so there must be something there. I think it's more likely that Lynch slides to around 15 though.

Also, you mentioned Joe Staley. He is actually the #2 rated OT on several boards, but he is a system Tackle. Teams like Atlanta, Houston, Denver, Green Bay, and Kansas City will be watching him closely. My guess is that Atlanta or GB take him in the 2nd round before we pick. The main reason he is sliding is b/c he doesn't have the prototypical OT size. He's a hell of an athlete though and if the rumors are true that he can run in the 4.7 range he'll only improve his draft stock. But again, it will be someone that is in desperate need of an OT (KC) or one of the zone running teams (Denver, GB, Atlanta, Houston). He's a better prospect than Levi Brown but Brown will almost definately go before Staley.

You've missed some of my posts talking about the safeties. Landry is excellent and I think he'll be a Darren Sharper like Safety. Several Pro-bowls are in his future. Reggie Nelson is a very risky pick IMO. He's only come on as a Sr. and only played D1 ball for 2 years. Couple that with his slight frame (180 +/- 5 lbs) and the fact that he doesn't help very much in run support as evidenced by his 50 tackles last year. Throw in Michael Griffin in your talk of first round safeties. Once this guy runs (low 4.4's) and gets a chance to work out for scouts he'll really open some eyes. He has better size (6' 205) and really brings it strong in run support (124 and 126 tackles the past two years). He's no slouch in pass defense either having intercepted 3 passes two years ago with 8 PBU (both more than Nelson in 05) and 4 Ints w/ 10 PBU (2 int's less than Nelson, but double the amount of passes defensed). So, with 2 1/2 times the tackles as Nelson and only 2 ints less, you have to wonder why he's not ahead of Nelson already. Better size, equal speed (I think Nelson will run low 4.4 as well), more experience (Griffin has started games for 3 years now), a better run defender, and arguably an equal pass defender. The one knock on Griffin, he'll miss some tackles by trying to knock a guy out instead of wrapping up. I wouldn't say he's as good as Michael Huff, but he's closer to Huff than people think.

Depending on what Carriker runs in the 40 I think he should be our first pick. Pressure from our DL on 3rd downs being the key. Carriker at 295 lbs has experience playing DT and would be a great pass rushing DT on obvious passing situations. Obviously a 295 lb DE is going to clog things up and help tremendously in the run defense dept. Plus, he's not a bad pass rusher from the edge to begin with. I like the thought of Dumervil, Carriker, Warren, and Lang/Ekuban on 3rd downs. That is a line that has potential to create havoc and get after QB's. It lessens the need to draft a DT early and allows us to keep guys off of our LB's in the run game. I agree with what BPC said eariler and yes, this thought process is putting a lot of eggs in once basket... but I'm also going on the assumption that we bring in a big DT in free agency. A guy like Terdell Sands though I think there are a few other big bodies available.

All in all, I like your plan and the thought process behind it. Don't know about the San Fran trade either. I think San Fran will win 9-10 games next year and they will be in the playoffs. So we'll end up with two picks, one in the 20's and our own at 32.

You and I are on the same page -- although I advocate trading down; I do like Carriker, Griffen, or Blalock if we keep our pick @ #21. And, I agree with Rascal on a couple of points -- I mistakenly advocated cutting Veal -- we should simply non-tender Myers. Also, I over looked our TE situation -- Graham would be a good pick up.

[Drek]

So who else wishes we had drafted Anderson (DE-ALA) last year?

No thanks, only so many speed rushers can be on the field at once, we'd already taken Dumervil and Shanahan wanted to add a veteran, which turned out to be Lang. Anderson would've just taken time from Elvis and I doubt he'd have been nearly as effective on our line.

[Traveler]

So who else wishes we had drafted Anderson (DE-ALA) last year?

There were several folks on here (me included) that were pushing for Anderson well before the draft. Hindsight is 20/20 I guess. Last years draft could go down as one of the best in Bronco history. The drafting of Anderson would have made it that much more complete.

[socalorado]

Is Graham going to want BIG money? I think you guys got it right with Sign FA Justin Smith DE
Sign FA Terdell Sands DT
This solves alot of problems before we even start the draft, and allows us to concentrate on specific needs (RB,S, WR ,OL)
I like this idea as well,
Trade #1 pick (#21), Tatum Bell, & #4 pick to New York Jets for their two #2's (#38 & #57) and their #3

Draft:
2A -- Michael Bush RB Louisville
2B -- Joe Staley OT C. Michigan
(we would probably need to trade up to get Staley as he the #4 Tackle on most boards and will not be here at #56)
2C -- Eric Weddel S Utah

3A -- Dan Bazuin DE C. Michigan
3B -- Brandon Mebane DT California
(he may also go higher than what I have here)
3C -- Jacoby Jones WR Lane
That just solved alot of issues to me

[Elway777]

Is Graham going to want BIG money? I think you guys got it right with Sign FA Justin Smith DE
Sign FA Terdell Sands DT
This solves alot of problems before we even start the draft, and allows us to concentrate on specific needs (RB,S, WR ,OL)
I like this idea as well,
Trade #1 pick (#21), Tatum Bell, & #4 pick to New York Jets for their two #2's (#38 & #57) and their #3

Draft:
2A -- Michael Bush RB Louisville
2B -- Joe Staley OT C. Michigan
(we would probably need to trade up to get Staley as he the #4 Tackle on most boards and will not be here at #56)
2C -- Eric Weddel S Utah

3A -- Dan Bazuin DE C. Michigan
3B -- Brandon Mebane DT California
(he may also go higher than what I have here)
3C -- Jacoby Jones WR Lane
That just solved alot of issues to me I like the idea of trading our 21 pick for the jets 38 and 57 picks.I also like your draft pick but I would keep Tatum Bell and Broncos do not have a 4 rounder.

[Steve Sewell]

#7- Jeff Samardzija, WR, Notre Dame. Someone mentioned the idea of reserving his rights in another thread and it sounds good to me. If he comes back to football in a couple of years, it'd be nice to have the first shot at him.



No, no, no. You don't waste draft picks to take flyers on players who might never play football. Marques Colston anyone? Probably the best rookie performance this year from a 7th rounder (outside of VY).

[Drek]

No, no, no. You don't waste draft picks to take flyers on players who might never play football. Marques Colston anyone? Probably the best rookie performance this year from a 7th rounder (outside of VY).

Colston played better than Vince Young. So did Reggie Bush, Joseph Addai, Devin Hester, Mark Anderson, Elvis Dumervil, Haloti Ngata, AJ Hawk, Demeco Ryans, etc.. I don't care that he's a rookie and ran for 7 TDs, he had a 66.7 QB rating. That isn't rookie of the year level when there were a half dozen offensive rookies who played damn near pro-bowl level this year.

[Elway 4 Life]

#6. Ramonce Taylor, RB, x-Texas. Ramonce was on pace to be a 2007 or 2008 first round draft pick. While he doesn't have ideal size (5-10, 195#) he has exceptional speed. In fact, he's just a tremendous athlete through and through. If you all recall, this is the guy that UT was proclaiming to be "their own Reggie Bush". While he is far from Reggie Bush and carries a ton of baggage (serving jail time on weekends for a conviction of having nearly 5 lbs of Texas/Mexico's finest) he is a great return man, a very good RB, and he can catch the ball extremely well out of the back field. He's a guy that can cut on a dime and gets to full speed in a few short steps. Not real good about following his blocks, but his vision is obvious. If Tatum parts ways this offseason I think he would be an excellent pick and could give us those 7-10 touches a game from the RB position like Tatum from 05... and a potential return man. See the speed, cuts, and hands: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOXvVKTzKsI


This Guy is a world class POS. He went to high school right up the road from me. We used to watch him play when we had the chance. He has a lot of talent but no character. He would be a worse pickup then MoC was. Pass

[Elway777]

Taylor reminds me of Bryant Westbrook.I might use a second day pick on him but some team might use a 3 rounder on Him.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

5 lbs of weed? That's a little too much for personal consumption. Dude's a drug dealer, pass.

[Broncoman13]

So was/is Jamal Lewis and we're trying to bring him in. People do stupid things when they're 19 years old. He could be another MoC no doubt. I'm not saying to use a 2nd or 3rd on him. I'm talking late on Sunday where 90% of the picks don't work out anyway. If he sticks and has his life turned around great. If not, we're out a 6th or 7th round draft pick. The kid can play ST's and that's what we need... in a very bad way!

[socalorado]

Lets just get Bush and not worry about some knucklehead w/a weed problem. We already tried the whole misguided, troubled youth thing w clarrett, right?
Whats the scoop on Weddle out of Utah? I heard this guy can hit like Lynch but he also is a ballhawk who can play CB and can return punts too!?!!

[Elway 4 Life]

So was/is Jamal Lewis and we're trying to bring him in. People do stupid things when they're 19 years old. He could be another MoC no doubt. I'm not saying to use a 2nd or 3rd on him. I'm talking late on Sunday where 90% of the picks don't work out anyway. If he sticks and has his life turned around great. If not, we're out a 6th or 7th round draft pick. The kid can play ST's and that's what we need... in a very bad way!

Those legal troubles are still ongoing. He may be going away. There are other players better suited for the Broncos than that Jackass.

[Obushma]

Whats the scoop on Weddle out of Utah? I heard this guy can hit like Lynch but he also is a ballhawk who can play CB and can return punts too!?!!

Is definetly the best player in the MWC (I don't know if that's saying much). This year he had 5 rushing TD's with over 225 yards rushing w/ 4.5 YPC, 2 passing TD's. On defense he had 7 INT's, 2 returned for TD's, 2 FF's, 1 returned for a TD. He also had 65 tackles, 4 for loss with 2 sacks.

To my knowledge, he's made the bigest move up the draft board over any other player this year. Personally, i'd love to see him in the Blue and Orange next year, I just dont think it's gonna happen unless we get a high second rounder. In some mocks he's going as high as the first round.

I'm not sure what postion he'll play in the NFL, he'd make one great SS, or a hell of a nickel corner. I think scouts are worried about his size at SS, he's barely 6ft and about 210lbs. He'll be a PAT holder for any smart team as he's been doing it for the last two years in college.

[BombsOverBaghdad]

I like the idea of trading our 21 pick for the jets 38 and 57 picks.I also like your draft pick but I would keep Tatum Bell and Broncos do not have a 4 rounder.

In my view, Tatum would have to be included in order for the Jets to even consider this trade. Besides, in this scenario, Tater is replaced by Bush.

I stand corrected on the 4th, as I used the draft valuation chart -- I think that Denver would need to come up with more compensation.

[BombsOverBaghdad]

Is definetly the best player in the MWC (I don't know if that's saying much). This year he had 5 rushing TD's with over 225 yards rushing w/ 4.5 YPC, 2 passing TD's. On defense he had 7 INT's, 2 returned for TD's, 2 FF's, 1 returned for a TD. He also had 65 tackles, 4 for loss with 2 sacks.

To my knowledge, he's made the bigest move up the draft board over any other player this year. Personally, i'd love to see him in the Blue and Orange next year, I just dont think it's gonna happen unless we get a high second rounder. In some mocks he's going as high as the first round.

I'm not sure what postion he'll play in the NFL, he'd make one great SS, or a hell of a nickel corner. I think scouts are worried about his size at SS, he's barely 6ft and about 210lbs. He'll be a PAT holder for any smart team as he's been doing it for the last two years in college.

In my scenerio, Weddel would be a FS -- with his background he should be a perfect fit.

[Obushma]

Looks like they have him playing CB in the Senior Bowl, although, i'm not positive as they are showing the QB's and Line more then the secondary in team practice.

[BombsOverBaghdad]

Looks like they have him playing CB in the Senior Bowl, although, i'm not positive as they are showing the QB's and Line more then the secondary in team practice.

Natural, where did you see this??

[socalorado]

Thynatural, Thanks! I've heard only good things about this guy, that he is a great Safety as well as useful at other positions. I think the Broncs need a guy like that. Someone who is "role player" on the team.

[Obushma]

Natural, where did you see this??

They lined him up at CB in the 11 on 11 drills. Just saw where he lined up on NFL network although only got one good shot of him lining up. I'm hoping they have some more shots of the WR's/DB's today. From what I read, he had one of the better days for all the players.

[socalorado]

Thynatural - your there? or are you watching this? Either way keep us posted. Seriously Weddle's the guy i want the most in this years draft. (i know we need help on DL/DE but i want a guy w talent that Lynch can mold.) I've seen alot of guys on other boards RAVING about this guy and how he could make an immediate impact for whoever gets him.

[socalorado]

Oh, you saw it on NFL network. SORRY (read post too fast)

[Obushma]

I really have no clue where Weddle is going to fall, I'm pretty sure he wont make it to our second round pick. Being a Utah homer, i'd love to take him with our first pick. Being a Bronco homer, I feel we have more need on the D-Line then at DB. Only way I see the Broncos picking him up is if we make some moves in the draft.

[socalorado]

Yeah, i've seen him on some mocks going at the end of the 1st to the Chuggers(please noo) or the Patriots. Then i,ve seen him in the top or middle of the 2nd rnd. I just depends on team needs. Hes one of those guys that could end up anywhere. The more i think of Denver team needs, the more i think we need 2 2nd rounders. This way we can concentrate on DL in the 1st, then go after S, RB in the 2nd. We just gotta hope for a trade involving Plummer/Tatum. (Texans maybe?)

[Dedhed]

I'm against the whole idea of trading our first for a second and a first next year. We need to improve this team now, not stockpile picks for another year.

People are on the trade down bandwagon because it happened to work a couple of years ago. However, this is not the same team as back then, and I don't think it makes sense at all this year given what we need, and the young depth we have in place. There will be a DL or a S available at #21 that will be well worth the pick.

Two years ago we were an extremely veteran ball club, and even our depth guys were long in the tooth. With our success in the last couple of drafts and FA, that's not the case anymore. It makes far more sense to get the type of talent that comes in the first round and can get on the field and be have an impact from day one.

[socalorado]

dedhed- we dont necessarily have to trade up in the draft like some people want. It seems that some are sold on Lynch and that we need to do whatever is possible to get him. But, the faster Plummer is out of here the better, so trading for picks with another team for him makes sense for team needs. If the Broncos can get a couple of picks for Plummer/tatum then by all means get them. But i dont think we need to trade up for anyone except maybe Peterson which is a stretch anyway. (i dont think Shanny would do this)

[U4EA]

Lets just get Bush and not worry about some knucklehead w/a weed problem. We already tried the whole misguided, troubled youth thing w clarrett, right?
Whats the scoop on Weddle out of Utah? I heard this guy can hit like Lynch but he also is a ballhawk who can play CB and can return punts too!?!!

I agree, Bush! That dude will DOMINATE our IR list like nobody before has.

[BombsOverBaghdad]

People are on the trade down bandwagon because it happened to work a couple of years ago. However, this is not the same team as back then, and I don't think it makes sense at all this year given what we need, and the young depth we have in place. There will be a DL or a S available at #21 that will be well worth the pick.

Two years ago we were an extremely veteran ball club, and even our depth guys were long in the tooth. With our success in the last couple of drafts and FA, that's not the case anymore. It makes far more sense to get the type of talent that comes in the first round and can get on the field and be have an impact from day one.

I believe that I understand your point and agree with your take on the state of the ballclub -- however, my view is that in this year's draft, there is very little qualitative difference from #20 to #60. So why not trade down for more opportunities to fill obvious areas of need?

[Steve Prefontaine]

No thanks, only so many speed rushers can be on the field at once, we'd already taken Dumervil and Shanahan wanted to add a veteran, which turned out to be Lang. Anderson would've just taken time from Elvis and I doubt he'd have been nearly as effective on our line.
I understand the reasoning behind passing on Anderson but...

I would trade him straight up for Hixon in a heartbeat. Dumervil and Anderson at ends during passing downs would have been a big upgrade for the Broncos last year.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

I understand the reasoning behind passing on Anderson but...

I would trade him straight up for Hixon in a heartbeat. Dumervil and Anderson at ends during passing downs would have been a big upgrade for the Broncos last year.

I would trade Elvis for Anderson staight up any day. Anderson is a complete DE. Elvis will only be on the field 8-10 plays per game.

[Steve Prefontaine]

I would trade Elvis for Anderson staight up any day. Anderson is a complete DE. Elvis will only be on the field 8-10 plays per game.
Cool. But my point is that Anderson was around when the Broncos took Hixon. At least Dumervil has a future in Denver. At this point I don't have much faith in Hixon, regardless of his injury. I hope I'm wrong though.

[BombsOverBaghdad]

Cool. But my point is that Anderson was around when the Broncos took Hixon. At least Dumervil has a future in Denver. At this point I don't have much faith in Hixon, regardless of his injury. I hope I'm wrong though.

However, with Shanny's recent history of multiple draft picks to fill a need position (last year WR and the year before CB) -- this is bound to happen, isn't it? If you are going to have 3 or 4 picks at one position (a practice btw that I am a huge fan of) then you will have picks like Hixon that will not look good in hindsight.

[Elway777]

After Senior ball practices this is my draft : 1 Adam Carriker , will add a real good defensive lineman against the pass and run plus will allow player around him to play better 2 Brandon Mebane ,high moter guy who gives maximum effect and would work well a a pass rusher in dt rotation 3a. Brandon Merriweather ,can play cb and Safety and really like the way he moves around the field, 3a David Irons , The Broncos need a 4 corner to replace DW 5. Garry Russell.I hope he makes it to the Broncos .He is a Prefect fit for Broncos zone Blocking Scheme 6. Zake Deossie.great special team player to replace Burns plus could be a starting linebacker some day.7.Romance Taylor.The Broncos take a change on Taylor if he is out of legal trouble. He was only 19 yeras old and deserves another change.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

The Broncos cannot afford the bad publicity they would receive by drafting Meriweather and Taylor. If they can't be civilized human beings f'em. No one want the Broncs to have the same reputation as the Bengals.

I still do not understand your attraction to Russell. He was an average Big Ten back who couldn't make it through school taking those basket weaving and snow shoveling for dummies classes. How is he going to learn a complicated playbook.

[BombsOverBaghdad]

(Overlooked this thread ........ will merge my thoughts here)

Since the season ended my thoughts have turned to this off-season and what direction are the Broncos going. A little over a week ago a read a post that someone opined that the Broncos have a window of 3 years or so with our current defense and in order to maximize this time frame we needed to look to fill our major holes through FA. Conversely, with the youth of Cutler, Marshall, Sheff, ... etc. -- that the Broncos will look to draft for the offense and build it to be at a peak in 3 to 5 years.

(It was a great post that was well reasoned -- I have been unable to locate it -- if the author is reading this will he please re-post it here?)

Then this morning, I came across this post from the RMN blog:
http://blogs.rockymountainnews.com/d...g_an_earl.html


Quote:
It's true that the interior Defensive line was lacking in pressure and the ability to stop the run. However, you can't overlook the impact of the injury to Sam Brandon and Nick Furgeson. When the Broncos play without those safeties it puts Lynch in a situation that doesn't benifit his current playing abilities. Basically speaking, John Lynch in space is bad for the Broncos.
The two most productive first round picks that the Broncos could possibly have are:
1) Stud running back: Patterson / Marshawn Lynch
2) Safety: Landry / Nelson.
If they can't trade up to get one of those four players, or if one doesn't fall into their lap, then they take the best defensive front seven player available. And that includes linebacker.
A top flight running back has the greatest ability to transorm the entire Denver Broncos team. Third down conversions keep your offense on the field and the defense off the field. The teams current inabilites to stave off late game drives of opposing teams and their own inability to sustain drives is the main reason they are not a far better team.

The addition of Petterson or Lynch makes that team far more productive and dangerous. If the opposing defense has to honor the run first, then Jay Cutler will shred the field, the defense will rest, time of possesion will increase, the offensive line will look better, the deffensive line will look better, the score will look better, etc........

Look for Denver to try to trade up to the Redskins pick if Adrian Petterson slides past Cleveland at the third or fourth pick. Or look for denver to try to move up to the 13 spot by trading with St. Louis if Marshawn Lynch gets past Houston at number 8. If niether of those senerious pan out then the Broncos should hold pat at pick 21. If there is a top flight safety then that should be there pick. If not, then they should trade back to early 2nd round and take a fly on Micheal Bush out of Louisville whom would've been a top ten pick if not for a season ending leg injury in game one of the 2006 season.

Go Broncos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Craig on January 20, 2007 11:31 AM


In my view, both of these positions are true and therefore give you my proposed off-season plan:

Sign FA Justin Smith DE
Sign FA Terdell Sands DT

Trade #1 pick (#21), Tatum Bell, & #4 pick to New York Jets for their two #2's (#38 & #57) and their #3

Draft:
2A -- Michael Bush RB Louisville
2B -- Joe Staley OT C. Michigan
(we would probably need to trade up to get Staley as he the #4 Tackle on most boards and will not be here at #56)
2C -- Eric Weddel S Utah

3A -- Dan Bazuin DE C. Michigan
3B -- Brandon Mebane DT California
(he may also go higher than what I have here)
3C -- Jacoby Jones WR Lane

For the remainder of the draft, I would take the best Gaurd or Center available and throw in -- Issaih Stanback athlete Washington (who is my sleeper pick of the draft)

After (or during) the draft, I would trade Plummer and Foster for whatever conditional future picks I could get. Then cut Demtrien Veal.

Any thoughts or criticisms?

Okay a few changes since the Senior Bowl practices:

FA signings:
Sign FA Justin Smith DE
Sign FA Terdell Sands DT
Sign FA Ben Watson TE

Trade 1st round pick(#21), Tatum Bell, & 5th round pick to New York Jets for their two #2's (#38 & #57) and their #3

Trade Jake Plummer, George Foster, & last pick in the 3rd round to Tampa Bay for their #2 (#35)

Draft:
2A -- Joe Staley OT C. Michigan
2B -- Ben Grubbs G Auburn
2C -- Brandon Mebane DT California
2C -- Eric Weddel S Utah

3A -- Dan Bazuin DE C. Michigan
3B -- Jay Moore DE Nebraska
3C -- Jacoby Jones WR Lane

For the remainder of the draft, I would take the best Running Back available and throw in -- Issaih Stanback athlete Washington (who is my sleeper pick of the draft)

After the draft, I would cut or non-tender Myers

[ICON]

92 DE Adam Carriker 6-6 292 Nebraska
Versatile. Long arms. Big frame. Uses hands well. (mid-Round 1) YES!!

49 LB Patrick Willis 6-1 240 Ole Miss
All over the field. Works through traffic. Tackling machine. (Round 2) I would be all kinds of happy with this guy in the Round 2

23 RB Brian Leonard 6-1 224 Rutgers
Jack-of-all-trades player. Runs, catches, blocks. (Round 2)We keep T.Bell and

M.Bell and add Brian Leonard to the mix in the 3rd would be fing great!

19 DB Brandon Meriweather 5-11 192 Miami
Adequate coverage skills. Versatile. Can be force in box. (Round 3 or 4) If this guy some how last to are last pick in the round 3 OMG!

Garry Russell ROUND 5

THEN BEST ST PLAYERS NOT DRAFTED

[defenseman]

I love the potential of the draft. I'm not a huge Carriker fan but I haven't watched him that much yet either. We got a lot of depth from this draft, the thing that is going to kill me about it is where are the DT's? We are horribly thin at that position and it would be shameful if we go into next season with just Warren at that position again. There are some college teams that have more talent at DT than we do.

Have watched him all year, Carriker is a beast, doesn't waste time, and good nose for the football....you want this guy, trust me, freaking monster..dman

[socalorado]

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(Overlooked this thread ........ will merge my thoughts here)

Since the season ended my thoughts have turned to this off-season and what direction are the Broncos going. A little over a week ago a read a post that someone opined that the Broncos have a window of 3 years or so with our current defense and in order to maximize this time frame we needed to look to fill our major holes through FA. Conversely, with the youth of Cutler, Marshall, Sheff, ... etc. -- that the Broncos will look to draft for the offense and build it to be at a peak in 3 to 5 years.

(It was a great post that was well reasoned -- I have been unable to locate it -- if the author is reading this will he please re-post it here?)

Then this morning, I came across this post from the RMN blog:
http://blogs.rockymountainnews.com/d...g_an_earl.html


Quote:
It's true that the interior Defensive line was lacking in pressure and the ability to stop the run. However, you can't overlook the impact of the injury to Sam Brandon and Nick Furgeson. When the Broncos play without those safeties it puts Lynch in a situation that doesn't benifit his current playing abilities. Basically speaking, John Lynch in space is bad for the Broncos.
The two most productive first round picks that the Broncos could possibly have are:
1) Stud running back: Patterson / Marshawn Lynch
2) Safety: Landry / Nelson.
If they can't trade up to get one of those four players, or if one doesn't fall into their lap, then they take the best defensive front seven player available. And that includes linebacker.
A top flight running back has the greatest ability to transorm the entire Denver Broncos team. Third down conversions keep your offense on the field and the defense off the field. The teams current inabilites to stave off late game drives of opposing teams and their own inability to sustain drives is the main reason they are not a far better team.

The addition of Petterson or Lynch makes that team far more productive and dangerous. If the opposing defense has to honor the run first, then Jay Cutler will shred the field, the defense will rest, time of possesion will increase, the offensive line will look better, the deffensive line will look better, the score will look better, etc........

Look for Denver to try to trade up to the Redskins pick if Adrian Petterson slides past Cleveland at the third or fourth pick. Or look for denver to try to move up to the 13 spot by trading with St. Louis if Marshawn Lynch gets past Houston at number 8. If niether of those senerious pan out then the Broncos should hold pat at pick 21. If there is a top flight safety then that should be there pick. If not, then they should trade back to early 2nd round and take a fly on Micheal Bush out of Louisville whom would've been a top ten pick if not for a season ending leg injury in game one of the 2006 season.

Go Broncos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Craig on January 20, 2007 11:31 AM


In my view, both of these positions are true and therefore give you my proposed off-season plan:

Sign FA Justin Smith DE
Sign FA Terdell Sands DT

Trade #1 pick (#21), Tatum Bell, & #4 pick to New York Jets for their two #2's (#38 & #57) and their #3

Draft:
2A -- Michael Bush RB Louisville
2B -- Joe Staley OT C. Michigan
(we would probably need to trade up to get Staley as he the #4 Tackle on most boards and will not be here at #56)
2C -- Eric Weddel S Utah

3A -- Dan Bazuin DE C. Michigan
3B -- Brandon Mebane DT California
(he may also go higher than what I have here)
3C -- Jacoby Jones WR Lane

For the remainder of the draft, I would take the best Gaurd or Center available and throw in -- Issaih Stanback athlete Washington (who is my sleeper pick of the draft)

After (or during) the draft, I would trade Plummer and Foster for whatever conditional future picks I could get. Then cut Demtrien Veal.

Any thoughts or criticisms?
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Okay a few changes since the Senior Bowl practices:

FA signings:
Sign FA Justin Smith DE
Sign FA Terdell Sands DT
Sign FA Ben Watson TE

Trade 1st round pick(#21), Tatum Bell, & 5th round pick to New York Jets for their two #2's (#38 & #57) and their #3

Trade Jake Plummer, George Foster, & last pick in the 3rd round to Tampa Bay for their #2 (#35)

Draft:
2A -- Joe Staley OT C. Michigan
2B -- Ben Grubbs G Auburn
2C -- Brandon Mebane DT California
2C -- Eric Weddel S Utah

3A -- Dan Bazuin DE C. Michigan
3B -- Jay Moore DE Nebraska
3C -- Jacoby Jones WR Lane

For the remainder of the draft, I would take the best Running Back available and throw in -- Issaih Stanback athlete Washington (who is my sleeper pick of the draft)

After the draft, I would cut or non-tender Myers
I like it! (maybe get Steve Smith WR) with a 3rd rounder? i know it a luxury pick but damn that would be cool.... I dont know why my post is coming out in blue but i'm not going to try and fix it!
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[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Ben Watson is not a FA. Daniel Graham is.

Jay Moore will be a 3-4 LB in the NFL

[Clockwork Orange]

Jay Moore will be a 3-4 LB in the NFL

He'd be great at DE in the pros so long as he got to line up in front of Joe Staley every game. Staley gave him not one, but two free kill shots at the QB in the Senior Bowl.

[DBroncos4life]

Ben Watson is not a FA. Daniel Graham is.

Jay Moore will be a 3-4 LB in the NFL

Most Husker fans think he is the better DE of the two, or will make the better pro. I like Jay Moore, but Carriker is the bigger guy that plays the run better. I don't see how a NFL team could go wrong with either two. Both are very smart, well coached players that will give 110% each game.

I really believe all four of our DLine will be playing in the NFL from this draft.

[phibacka31]

THis is my dream

1. Adam Carriker DE/DT he will help out the dline a lot because of his versatility. He carries his weight really well.
2. Brandon Merriweather S I know he has some character ???, but I absolutely LOVE him as player. He can Be a GREAT FS for us, and if we get in a pinch he can slide in to the CB spot. I REALLY want to get him
3a. Alam Francis DE : Another great body for the Dline.
3b. Jason hill WR: I really like him as a WR also. He's a TD machine and he's got some descent wheels.
4. Marshal Yanda OT: He's a VERY smart player who could develop into a great OT in the pros.
5. Mike Walker WR: I know that we don't need another WR, but I can't pass him up.
6. Travarious Bain CB: I think he wll continue to fly under the raider, and I think he'll would be an ABOSOLUTE steal in the 6th.
7. Walter THomas DT: AN absolute MONSTER that could be great in the middle of the line.

[mattob14]

I'm not a fan of Merriweather, and he may move out of this range anyway, but not bad. I'd love to add Carriker or Alama-Francis, I just don't see how they could play side-by-side. You'd have to make Carriker a full-time tackle, and I'm not sure that's his best position.

[BroncoBuff]

Trade #21 for SF's '07 3rd (75) and 4th (107), '08 1st and 4th.
Trade Tatum Bell to NYG for their 3rd rounder (#84).
Trade #53, #70, and SF '08 4th Rd. to CLE/TB for #35.
#35: Adam Carriker, DE, NEB - provides a big power end who can also move inside to DT on pass rushing downs. I'm predicting a late 4's 40, hurting his stock badly enough to slide him out of the first. Alternate: Quinn Pitcock, DT, PSU.

#107 - Brandon Mebane, DT, CAL - His stock isn't very high but he's a solid football player who could at the least be a solid backup. Alternate: Braka Atkins, DE, MIA.
Love the analysis ... and every single guy you picked. Crosby, Carriker, Tony Hunt (not Bush), Wendling.

But from what I saw and read about the Senior Bowl, both Carriker and Mebane shot WAY up, and won't be around at these spots. Mebane sounds great ... you undersold him.

[BroncoBuff]

Bombs ... I liked your analysis a lot - I learned a lot.

But your DT ideas are way-off. Our roster is DT-needy, so there's no way we're cutting Veal and non-tendering Myers. They just re-signed Veal, "locked him up," as Sunsquist said. And Myers sounds like he fits the Bates prototype beautifully.


And everybody: STOP TALKING CORNERBACKS! It's simply not a position of need. We have four keepers now.

[elsid13]

[QUOTE=BroncoBuff;1465107]Bombs ... I liked your analysis a lot - I learned a lot.

But your DT ideas are way-off. Our roster is DT-needy, so there's no way we're cutting Veal and non-tendering Myers. They just re-signed Veal, "locked him up," as Sunsquist said. And Myers sounds like he fits the Bates prototype beautifully.


And everybody: STOP TALKING CORNERBACKS! It's simply not a position of need. We have four keepers now.[/QUOTE

Both Foxworth and Paymah are RFA after this upcoming season, and Cox is more of STer/ backup Safety then CB. Denver does need to add to the depth in that position, we would have seen additional guys brought in, even if DWill was still here.

[BombsOverBaghdad]

Okay a few changes since the Senior Bowl practices:

FA signings:
Sign FA Justin Smith DE
Sign FA Terdell Sands DT
Sign FA Ben Watson TE

Trade 1st round pick(#21), Tatum Bell, & 5th round pick to New York Jets for their two #2's (#38 & #57) and their #3

Trade Jake Plummer, George Foster, & last pick in the 3rd round to Tampa Bay for their #2 (#35)

Draft:
2A -- Joe Staley OT C. Michigan
2B -- Ben Grubbs G Auburn
2C -- Brandon Mebane DT California
2C -- Eric Weddel S Utah

3A -- Dan Bazuin DE C. Michigan
3B -- Jay Moore DE Nebraska
3C -- Jacoby Jones WR Lane

For the remainder of the draft, I would take the best Running Back available and throw in -- Issaih Stanback athlete Washington (who is my sleeper pick of the draft)

After the draft, I would cut or non-tender Myers



Okay, (given this imaginary scenario) it is clear that a few changes are in order at the conclusion of the Senior Bowl. Staley's stock appears to have gone down; Mebane's went up. The Seahawks (according to John Clayton's radio show) will target Graham if he does enter free agency -- but probably will receive NE's franchise tag.

I missed Veal's signing -- in my opinion we still need more at DT and Mebane may present a solution to stuff the run.

Am I alone, or does Carriker's size, speed, and ability to play both inside & out -- remind people of Richard Seymour?

Three things that I want from this off-season -- a better running back, more size on the O-Line, and more speed at DE.

[Rohirrim]

As Mediator pointed out somewhere else, the Broncos need some Dline players who are NOT situational, players who can stay in the game and kill the ability of the opposition to burn us on the hurry up, thereby shutting down the substitutions. Carriker is the man for that job. He can play the strong side end position for two plays, drawing double teams, and then move inside next to Warren on third downs, or move to rush from either side in a hurry up. I am convinced that Warren comes back as a force this season. IMO, the tandem of Warren and Carriker on that line would create major headaches for opposing offenses. All the Broncos need after that is a return to the dominating running game that moves the chains and controls the clock. We're really not that far away.

[BombsOverBaghdad]

As Mediator pointed out somewhere else, the Broncos need some Dline players who are NOT situational, players who can stay in the game and kill the ability of the opposition to burn us on the hurry up, thereby shutting down the substitutions. Carriker is the man for that job. He can play the strong side end position for two plays, drawing double teams, and then move inside next to Warren on third downs, or move to rush from either side in a hurry up. I am convinced that Warren comes back as a force this season. IMO, the tandem of Warren and Carriker on that line would create major headaches for opposing offenses. All the Broncos need after that is a return to the dominating running game that moves the chains and controls the clock. We're really not that far away.

I agree, the emphasis must be to return to a dominating run game. With the cap money teams have available now, you just do not see much help coming thru FA. And, I suspect after his showing at the Senior Bowl -- Carriker will be gone before #21.

[Drek]

I agree, the emphasis must be to return to a dominating run game. With the cap money teams have available now, you just do not see much help coming thru FA. And, I suspect after his showing at the Senior Bowl -- Carriker will be gone before #21.

I'd be surprised if he is (gone before 21). As it stands now the DE rankings board is still Jamaal Anderson, Gaines Adams, and Charles Grant clearly above Carriker. Alan Branch and Okoye add two DTs who're also above him. Six DLs before the 21st pick? Not saying its impossible, but its very unlikely. The all time record was 8 DLs for the entire first round if I recall, and that was a draft that saw no other DLs taken until Dan Klecko in round 4. Teams knew if they wanted DL help it had to be in round 1. This year is deeper than that class but also weaker at the top. I'd expect Carriker or Johnson to be on the board at 21, either one would be a good pick for us.

If not then that means someone has slid huge to let one of those guys move up. Levi Brown, Marshawn Lynch, maybe even Reggie Nelson.

[mattob14]

I hope you're right, Drek. It all depends on where the big run in the first round is, though. If teams like Cleveland, Washington, and Minnesota go DL early, they could start coming off the board quick, and we could miss on Carriker. If Cleveland looks at someone like Peterson and/or Minnesota goes WR, then we could very well see Carriker there at 21. I wouldn't mind giving up our late 3rd to move up 3 or 4 spots, either.

[Broncoman13]

I'd be surprised if he is (gone before 21). As it stands now the DE rankings board is still Jamaal Anderson, Gaines Adams, and Charles Grant clearly above Carriker. Alan Branch and Okoye add two DTs who're also above him. Six DLs before the 21st pick? Not saying its impossible, but its very unlikely. The all time record was 8 DLs for the entire first round if I recall, and that was a draft that saw no other DLs taken until Dan Klecko in round 4. Teams knew if they wanted DL help it had to be in round 1. This year is deeper than that class but also weaker at the top. I'd expect Carriker or Johnson to be on the board at 21, either one would be a good pick for us.

If not then that means someone has slid huge to let one of those guys move up. Levi Brown, Marshawn Lynch, maybe even Reggie Nelson.


Who is this Charles Grant? Not familiar with him. Sure you know what you're talking about?

[Clockwork Orange]

Who is this Charles Grant? Not familiar with him. Sure you know what you're talking about?

I believe he means Charles Johnson from Georgia. Charles Grant is a DE for the New Orleans Saints.

[Drek]

Who is this Charles Grant? Not familiar with him. Sure you know what you're talking about?

Johnson, bleh, got Grant on the brain because thats who I think Johnson best compares to at the NFL level, but lacking some size and showing more speed, which scouts always love.

I hope you're right, Drek. It all depends on where the big run in the first round is, though. If teams like Cleveland, Washington, and Minnesota go DL early, they could start coming off the board quick, and we could miss on Carriker. If Cleveland looks at someone like Peterson and/or Minnesota goes WR, then we could very well see Carriker there at 21. I wouldn't mind giving up our late 3rd to move up 3 or 4 spots, either.

There might be a big DL run, sure, but consider who that'd leave sliding to us. Here's my early top 21 (posted in a previous thread, ordering isn't close to final yet):
1. Calvin Johnson
2. Joe Thomas
3. Alan Branch
4. Jamaal Anderson
5. Adrian Peterson
6. Gaines Adams
7. JaMarcus Russell
8. Brady Quinn
9. Leon Hall
10. Laron Landry
11. Ted Ginn Jr.
12. Reggie Nelson
13. Marshawn Lynch
14. Dwayne Jarrett
15. Levi Brown
16. Charles Johnson
17. Adam Carriker
18. Amobi Okoye
19. Jarvis Moss
20. Robert Meachem
21. Darelle Revis

So worst case scenario, the top two DTs and top five DEs (including Moss who's really good too) are all gone. We're then looking at guys like Nelson, Lynch, Revis, Brown, maybe even Ginn or Landry sliding down to us.

Hell, I hope we see a run like that on DE because I doubt Shanahan takes one and then he'd be chosing between clearly superior guys like Revis and Brown instead of finding some project CB or OT to waste our first on.

[Elway777]

I Chanced I deam draft to include Plummer being traded for a 4 rounder. 1 Adam Carriker DE 2 Brandon Merriweather S 3a kareem Brown DT 3b Antonio Pittman RB 4 Mike Otto OT 5. Josh Gattis S 6 Marcus Mason RB 7.Stephen McCoy CB.

[no-pseudo-fan]

1. Carriker
2. Mike Bush
3. Eric Weddle
3b Brandon Mebane

We get these 4 players on day 1. The second day we can throw darts at the draft board

[elsid13]

OK here you go - this is subject to change post combine and a little more research (this is what I see happen with draft)

1-Robert Meachem WR Tenn
2. Brandon Mebane DT - CAL
3a. Doug Free -OT- NUI
3b. Sabby Piscitelli or Michael Johnson S
5. Travarous Bain CB - Hampton
6. Ronnie McGill RB - NORTH CAROLINA
7. Joe Cohen DT/DE Florida

Undrafted FA - Matt Trannon WR that will be TE project
Steptoe - WR AU punt returner

[BombsOverBaghdad]

1. Carriker
2. Mike Bush
3. Eric Weddle
3b Brandon Mebane

We get these 4 players on day 1. The second day we can throw darts at the draft board

Nice :thumbsup: I like it!
Particularly Bush and Weddle (although I would be surprised to still see him or Mebane available in the 3rd)

[Elway777]

I take another shoot at a mock draft 1 Charles Johnson ,Broncos finally draft a young de that can rush the passer. 2 Brandon Merriweather,This guy could be a difference maker at free safety. I'm not that concerned about character because Meriweather was not involved in drugs. 3a Antonio Pittman , Fits the Broncos running system . I think he could be the best Broncos back since TD.3B Kareem Brown, Good pass rushining dt. 4 Mike Otto, solid offensive lineman to take Lepsis place when he retires. Otto might never be a all pro but should be real solid .5 Brandon Myles, Huddle report ranks him a first round talent.6 Zake Deossie , good special team player and future starter at linebacker.7 Marcus Mason,Another running back I really like and he does not fumble. The Broncos also trade Tatum Bell plus a 2008 3 round pick for Dre Bly

[Broncoman13]

Put your Broncos Dream Draft here.

#1. Adam Carriker, DE/DT, Nebraska (He can move inside on passing downs. We tried it with Elvis, Carriker has the size and the experience) I'm really warming up to this guy. He could fill two roles for our team. Improving the run defense while playing DE and adding some push up the middle on passing downs. This allows both Lang and Elvis to stay on the field in these situations.
#2. Aaron Ross, CB, Texas. A good cover corner though he does have lapses at times. Also brings a lot to the table in terms of ST's. Considering that only Foxworth and Champ are proven on the roster, it's important to draft a CB on day one. I'd love to have McCauley in the first round, but after people see him run and see a little more of him... well, he'll end up being the first corner taken. Leon Hall will fall to us before McCauley does. I have a lot of respect for Pat Hill, and he calls McCauley the best athlete he's ever seen. So basically, we're settling for Aaron Ross in the 2nd, which is a fine consolation prize.
#3. Tony Hunt, RB, Penn St. He's been very productive in a conference that is tough to run in. He's got great power, decent speed, and is probably the best RB in the draft when it comes to little things like pass protection and leadership. I'm torn right now between Michael Bush and Tony Hunt, but I'm leaning toward Hunt b/c of the lack of injuries, the power running, and the little things he does to win games.
#3b. Dan Bazuin, DE, Central Michigan. I know, we just drafted Carriker in the first. Bazuin is just too good to pass up here. In fact, there's a good chance that he goes earlier. He's been very productive and NFL teams are starting to realize that some of these "small school" boys can play some serious ball! Bazuin ruled the Shrine game tonight and by most accounts was a terror all week long during the practices. Safety is a need for sure, but with a strong pass rush we can surely get by with what we have now.
#5. Sabby Piscitelli, DS, Oregon St. All he does is make plays. Yet the word on him is that he lacks a true position. Well I have one for him and it's a big need for our team. Special Teams. Piscitelli has the size/speed to be a great special teamer though he likely will never be more than a back-up at safety. He did have 15 career INTs at OSU so he has to be doing something right, but make no mistake he's not a coverage guy at safety.
#6. Ramonce Taylor, RB, x-Texas. Ramonce was on pace to be a 2007 or 2008 first round draft pick. While he doesn't have ideal size (5-10, 195#) he has exceptional speed. In fact, he's just a tremendous athlete through and through. If you all recall, this is the guy that UT was proclaiming to be "their own Reggie Bush". While he is far from Reggie Bush and carries a ton of baggage (serving jail time on weekends for a conviction of having nearly 5 lbs of Texas/Mexico's finest) he is a great return man, a very good RB, and he can catch the ball extremely well out of the back field. He's a guy that can cut on a dime and gets to full speed in a few short steps. Not real good about following his blocks, but his vision is obvious. If Tatum parts ways this offseason I think he would be an excellent pick and could give us those 7-10 touches a game from the RB position like Tatum from 05... and a potential return man. See the speed, cuts, and hands: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOXvVKTzKsI
#7. Jared Zabransky, QB, OhBoise St. He's a firery guy that could probably make a name for himself on defense as well. Either way, we don't have Cutler's back-up on the roster at the moment. Not many choices in Free Agency. I don't really like the idea of having to groom two QB's at the same time. If we sign a QB in free agency then I think we'll go after a guy that has slipped due to injuries. If not for already drafting Tony Hunt and Ramonce Taylor I would guess that Justin Vincent, RB, LSU would be Shanny's type of guy. This is a Mike Shanahan pick if I've ever seen one. Vincent was injured just about every season at LSU, but as a Freshman he rushed for over 1000 yards with guys like Addai on the roster. At the very least it allows Shanny his annual IR draft pick which basically stocks him away for next year. Also keep an eye on David Ball. Most are projecting him as a 6th round pick but I think he'll go undrafted unless someone takes a flyer on him late on Sunday. He's a prolific D2 receiver and has good height. Unfortunately his speed is poor (4.6 range) and his routes didn't look very sharp.


Looking better and better... but no way Aaron Ross makes it back around to us in the 2nd round. Sub Weddle or even Tank Tyler in at that pick.

[Elway777]

Looking better and better... but no way Aaron Ross makes it back around to us in the 2nd round. Sub Weddle or even Tank Tyler in at that pick. I love that mock draft also and would be real happy with it.

[Elway777]

My post combine Mock draft.1Adam Carriker or Charles Johnson 2. Antonio Pittman 3a Sabby Piscilla 3b Trade Tatum to Giants,Kareem Brown 3c Marcus Thomas 4a Trade Plummer to Houston for a 4 rounder, Antwaan Barnes 5 Mike Otto 6. Brandon Myles 7, Marcus Mason.

[SpringStein]

#5 Sabby Piscitelli, DS, Oregon St. All he does is make plays. Yet the word on him is that he lacks a true position. Well I have one for him and it's a big need for our team. Special Teams. Piscitelli has the size/speed to be a great special teamer though he likely will never be more than a back-up at safety. He did have 15 career INTs at OSU so he has to be doing something right, but make no mistake he's not a coverage guy at safety.

After the combine and his 4.47, hard to believe he would last until the 5th.

[chaz]

I take another shoot at a mock draft 1 Charles Johnson ,Broncos finally draft a young de that can rush the passer. 2 Brandon Merriweather,This guy could be a difference maker at free safety. I'm not that concerned about character because Meriweather was not involved in drugs. 3a Antonio Pittman , Fits the Broncos running system . I think he could be the best Broncos back since TD.3B Kareem Brown, Good pass rushining dt. 4 Mike Otto, solid offensive lineman to take Lepsis place when he retires. Otto might never be a all pro but should be real solid .5 Brandon Myles, Huddle report ranks him a first round talent.6 Zake Deossie , good special team player and future starter at linebacker.7 Marcus Mason,Another running back I really like and he does not fumble. The Broncos also trade Tatum Bell plus a 2008 3 round pick for Dre Bly

great mock....this would work out pretty well for us....dont know if i trust meriweather, but no question that he'd be a difference maker

[chanesaw]

1. Adam Carriker, DE, Nebraska

I hope he lasts until we pick.

2. DeMarcus "Tank" Tyler, DT, NC State

I also hope he lasts until we pick, a strong guy that can spell Big Daddy and Big Money.

3a. John Wendling, S, Wyoming

A big safety that Lynch can groom to take over.

3b. Matt Spaeth, TE, Minnesota

Huge TE, excellent blocker with soft hands. For everybody wanting Daniel Graham, maybe you should check this guy out.

6. Ken Shackleford, OT, Georgia

An OT to groom, might not make the roster though.

7. John Beck, QB BYU

Cutler's backup for the future.

FA- Gary Russell, RB, Minnesota

Had a slow run time but averaged over 6 ypc.

[Elway777]

Since the Broncos didn't receive any extra picks for Bell or Plummer. I have the Broncos trading away a next year 4 for a 5 rounder. 1 Carriker or Johnson 2 Brandon Merriweather ,hopefully he drops in the draft3a Brandon Mebane ,Plays hard every play and can rush the passer 3b Dan Buzuin , Great pass rusher who plays with non stop motor.5. Mike Otto 6. Matt Spaeth 7. Marcus Mason