Chiefs sign Gonzo to EXPENSIVE extension

[Kaylore]

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2007/01/12/chiefs_and_gonzalez_agree_in_principle_to_a_fiveye ar_contract_extension/
Chiefs and Gonzalez agree in Principle to a Five-Year Contract Extension
Jan 12, 2007, 9:23:22 AM

Kansas City Chiefs President Carl Peterson announced on Friday that TE Tony Gonzalez agreed in principle to a five-year contract extension. As per Chiefs policy, no further terms of the agreement were announced.

“Simplistically, we’re very pleased to get this done,” Peterson said. “It will, in all essence, allow Tony Gonzalez to finish his career with the Kansas City Chiefs. The obvious is he’s been a very, very productive player for us. I think for our fans in Kansas City it was important for us to get this done. He’s done a marvelous job for us both on and off the football field.”

Gonzalez (6-5, 251) has appeared in 158 career NFL games (142 starts), including starts in 142 of the last 144 contests. He owns the top mark in Chiefs history with 721 receptions for 8,710 yards (12.1 avg.) and 61 touchdowns. His 8,710 receiving yards and 721 receptions rank second in NFL history among TEs, trailing only TE Shannon Sharpe. He needs two more receiving TDs to pass Sharpe (62) for the most by a TE in NFL annals.

The 10-year NFL veteran earned his eighth straight appearance to the NFL’s annual All-Star Game this year. The only Chiefs TE ever selected to the Pro Bowl, Gonzalez joins Fred Arbanas as the only other Kansas City TE to earn a berth in the Pro Bowl or the AFL All-Star Game. Arbanas made five AFL All-Star appearances (’62-65 and ‘67). Those eight Pro Bowl invites are tied with Sharpe for the most by a tight end in NFL history. Gonzalez started 15 games in 2006, leading the club with 73 receptions for 900 yards with five touchdowns. The Torrance, California native caught a club-record 102 passes for 1,258 yards (12.3 avg.) with seven touchdowns in 2004.

At the University of California, Gonzalez saw action in 33 games on the gridiron, catching 89 passes for 1,302 yards (14.6 avg.) with eight touchdowns.


I'm not surprised by this. They pretty much had no choice. Can you imagine their offense with just Green and old Kennison? Looks like they're hanging onto their offense for dear life.

[Smith80HOF]

beat me to this story, poor gonzalez - he'll end his brillant career with no superbowl rings while continuing to be a part of a piece of **** franchise.

[Rohirrim]

Too bad for Tony. Guess he'll never get that ring.

[KipCorrington25]

At least this is over and it won't drag out all winter.

[Garcia Bronco]

He was probably told he would have been franchised until the end of time.

Good move by CP to get him in early.....otherwise he would have had to make some tough choices

[-Slap-]

That's good. He should retire as a Chief. Its too bad we couldn't bring him over here for the Neil Smith treatment, but that's the way it goes.

What an amazingly consistent career.

+-------------------------+
| Receiving |
+----------+-----+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+-------------------------+
| 1997 kan | 16 | 33 368 11.2 2 |
| 1998 kan | 16 | 59 621 10.5 2 |
| 1999 kan | 15 | 76 849 11.2 11 |
| 2000 kan | 16 | 93 1203 12.9 9 |
| 2001 kan | 16 | 73 917 12.6 6 |
| 2002 kan | 16 | 63 773 12.3 7 |
| 2003 kan | 16 | 71 916 12.9 10 |
| 2004 kan | 16 | 102 1258 12.3 7 |
| 2005 kan | 16 | 78 905 11.6 2 |
| 2006 kan | 15 | 73 900 12.3 5 |
+----------+-----+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 158 | 721 8710 12.1 61 |
+----------+-----+-------------------------+

Postseason data

Year Opp Result | REC YD TD
---------------------+-----------------
1997 den L,10-14 | 3 26 1
2003 ind L,31-38 | 4 55 0
2006 ind L,8-23 | 4 25 1
---------------------+-----------------
TOTAL | 11 106 2

[Kaylore]

I'll agree that right now it doesn't look like the rosiest career move in terms of building a legacy. Their line is crap. Trent Green is playing like crap. Shields is going to either come back more fragile and older or retire, or in other words their interior line is going to get crappier. Parker is crap. Kennison is approaching crap. Larry Johnson hit the 400+ carry mark which historically means from then on you = crap.

You ask any Chief fan they'll tell you their offense hung them out to dry. Their D isn't world beaters, but it was good enough to make a playoff run if their O would have shown up.

Gonzo's biggest problem is their tackles suck so they have to keep him in to block all the time. Also consider he's at the age where your production as a tight end kind of falls off.

Yeah, it doesn't look like a great move for his legacy, but consider that we were able to re-load our entire offense in one offseason: Cutler, Scheffler, Mike Bell, Walker, Marshall, Kuper. All those guys are going to start and all but one are rookies, with Walker being the lone exception and he's entering his prime.

Now it would be ridiculous to suggest that the Chiefs can do the same thing simply because we did, but I'm just pointing out that it's not impossible to put enough players together make your offense decent.

The only thing I don't think they will be able to overcome is the QB situation. It's so, so hard to find a good QB and most franchises go a decade or more before they find a really good one. I don't think Huard is the answer, but who knows?

Chiefs suck. :giggle:

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Good - Another over the hill guy to chewing up their cap and we won't have to listen to some here claim the Broncs should gut their cap to sign him.

[bendog]

The way the chorfs are going Gonzo may finish like Fred Arbanes ... with only one eye.

[400HZ]

I'd definetely have mixed feelings if I was a queefs fan. Gonzo is a great player, no doubt. Unfortunately, everybody on that offense is either A) Old B) Sucks or C) all of the above. And it's not like KC has much cap room to work with. Letting Gonzalez walk would have been a good first step in rebuilding. Let one of the old timers go and free up cap space to bring in some young blood...that would have made more sense to me.

[Kaylore]

Letting Gonzalez walk would have been a good first step in rebuilding. Let one of the old timers go and free up cap space to bring in some young blood...that would have made more sense to me.

I totally disagree. Carl had no choice. Gonzo's a fan favorite and one of their only good players on offense left who isn't old. A move like this keeps the fans happy and presents the illusion that he really cares. Even though the other areas need to be addressed, as long as they get some home wins and beat the Broncos in the regular season in their "Super Bowl," the fans will happily buy their tickets and jerseys, feed the mediocrity and be none the wiser.

[NaptownChief]

I totally disagree. Carl had no choice. Gonzo's a fan favorite and one of their only good players on offense left who isn't old. A move like this keeps the fans happy and presents the illusion that he really cares. Even though the other areas need to be addressed, as long as they get some home wins and beat the Broncos in the regular season in their "Super Bowl," the fans will happily buy their tickets and jerseys, feed the mediocrity and be none the wiser.



If I were GM I probably would have let him walk. He will cost a ton of money and isn't a spring chicken anymore. Probably has anothe good season or two in him but by the end of the contract you will be paying far more than the production warrants. But the second and biggest reason why I wouldn't do it is because of Herm Average. He has little desire to pass the ball much and no need to pay top dollar for a TE that is going to spend most of his time being asked to block. The third and final reason is in this day and age with TE's being used a lot more in the NFL and starting to get paid we have seen a lot more good athletes playing the position in college making for a lot more available TE talent.

[Atlas]

It's always nice to sign your TE with declining skills to a large 5 year extension. Nice.

[yerner]

Why wouldn't he test the market? Seems like a bad move.

[bendog]

Why wouldn't he test the market? Seems like a bad move.

King Carl would've franchise tagged him and told him to 'sit the **** down!'

This way he's got jack up front in bonus, which I would hope for the chorfs was way high, because if it was Gonzo prolly would let them back load the contract on base salar so that it's really only a 3 year deal or so. And Gonzo still has lots more security in case of injury than he'd have with the one year franchise tag deal.

[DenverBrit]

Good - Another over the hill guy to chewing up their cap and we won't have to listen to some here claim the Broncs should gut their cap to sign him.

Talk about an insane cap move. The Chiefs have ensured that they will be in cap hell for a few years. Gonzo is a great talent, but the money they are paying will be needed to rebuild an ancient offense. I hope King Carl stays with KC for years to come. ^5


The Chiefs' Tony Gonzalez told FOXSports.com that he is very close to a five-year extension to remain in Kansas City rather than hit the free agent market. The deal includes a stunning $17 million in guaranteed bonus money and averages more than $6.25 million per year — huge numbers for a tight end — with $18 million over the first three years

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6362970?FSO1&ATT=HMA

[Rohirrim]

$18 mil for the first 3 years and a guaranteed 17 mil!?! Ha! Carl has done it again. At that price, I guess Gonzo could care less that the Cheffies are going to require a complete overhaul after next season with little hope of seeing the playoffs again before his contract expires.

[bpc]

Good move for the chiefs. He played strong this year and he can finish his career there.

Amazing to look at Tony G's stats when he was young and then think about what Scheff could be doing for us in the long haul. I'm excited.

[broncosteven]

If I were GM I probably would have let him walk. He will cost a ton of money and isn't a spring chicken anymore. Probably has anothe good season or two in him but by the end of the contract you will be paying far more than the production warrants. But the second and biggest reason why I wouldn't do it is because of Herm Average. He has little desire to pass the ball much and no need to pay top dollar for a TE that is going to spend most of his time being asked to block. The third and final reason is in this day and age with TE's being used a lot more in the NFL and starting to get paid we have seen a lot more good athletes playing the position in college making for a lot more available TE talent.

Nappy is right. I am glad TG is a Cheef. I like to see the franchise players stay with their teams anyway. Too bad Herm will shorten his career by making him block.

[DomCasual]

Hey, so I've been wondering - what happened to Bob? Did he get banned? Lose a bet and finally live up to it?

[BABronco]

he lost a bet and is spose to be gone year i think

[maven]

If I were GM I probably would have let him walk. He will cost a ton of money and isn't a spring chicken anymore. Probably has anothe good season or two in him but by the end of the contract you will be paying far more than the production warrants. But the second and biggest reason why I wouldn't do it is because of Herm Average. He has little desire to pass the ball much and no need to pay top dollar for a TE that is going to spend most of his time being asked to block. The third and final reason is in this day and age with TE's being used a lot more in the NFL and starting to get paid we have seen a lot more good athletes playing the position in college making for a lot more available TE talent.

Good points. I would have let him walk also. There's a lot of talent at the position every year. Plus, they play for peanuts for 3-5 years on a rookie contract.

[Florida_Bronco]

he lost a bet and is spose to be gone year i think

That is correct.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Guess he will be back just when the Broncos are winning playoff games and the Squaws are sitting at home

[OrangeShadow]

great another 5 years of gonzo making dumb threads


































oh,wrong gonzo

[Killericon]

Oh no! What will the Packers do now????????

I'm honestly glad. He should retire as a Chief.

[Bronx33]

Oh no! What will the Packers do now????????

I'm honestly glad. He should retire as a Chief.


If the cheaps let him go i would seriously doubt there chances of being a quality club in the future (kinda of a oxy moron there) but hey, tony earned it and deserved it.

[400HZ]

I totally disagree. Carl had no choice. Gonzo's a fan favorite and one of their only good players on offense left who isn't old. A move like this keeps the fans happy and presents the illusion that he really cares. Even though the other areas need to be addressed, as long as they get some home wins and beat the Broncos in the regular season in their "Super Bowl," the fans will happily buy their tickets and jerseys, feed the mediocrity and be none the wiser.

I'm glad that I'm not a chiefs fan.

[Jetmeck]

Carl had no choice. Gonzo's a fan favorite and one of their only good players on offense left who isn't old. A move like this keeps the fans happy and presents the illusion that he really cares. Even though the other areas need to be addressed, as long as they get some home wins and beat the Broncos in the regular season in their "Super Bowl," the fans will happily buy their tickets and jerseys, feed the mediocrity and be none the wiser.

Exactly right because the goal for this franchise is to fill the seats. Old offense and defense. To think KC has the brains to reload in one year is totally ludicrous.

Just REMEMBER THIS, they had a top five offense for several years in a row and did you see a noticable improvement on the defensive side of things ? Hell no, not until the wheels were coming off the offense.

The freaking fans should have demanded KING CARL load up on defense for a one final run even at the expense of the future. Whens it's been 37 years and counting you do what is necessary period.

This franchise is incapable of common sense and as long as the fans roll into ARROWHEAD they won't change.

[ZONA]

Nothing wrong with the guy wanting to finish his career there. He probably has a family and doesn't want to move them. He'll play the next 5 years and by that time, they will move Herm out and Gonzo will be their coach......lol

Gonzo will probably run for Gov and win by a land slide

[ol number 7]

Good - Another over the hill guy to chewing up their cap and we won't have to listen to some here claim the Broncs should gut their cap to sign him.

Sounds like the over the hill gang the Redskins had a while back. When is the last time the Chiefs traded a player that had any trade value for picks or a stud player ala Champ Bailey? Was Priest a FA?? They'll wind up holding on to Green another year to and get Chump Change for him at 38 years old. It's like King Carls rest home. Hey at least the BBQ is good. Thats why Gonzo stayed.

[Kaylore]

Holy crap, this is hilarious.

Chiefs agree to extension for TE Gonzalez
Jay Glazer / FOXSports.com
Posted: 3 hours ago

The Kansas City Chiefs have reached an agreement on a contract extension with Tony Gonzalez, their future Hall Of Fame tight end.

Early Friday, Gonzalez told FOXSports.com that he was very close to a five-year extension to remain in Kansas City rather than hit the free agent market. The deal includes a stunning $17.750 million in guaranteed bonus money and averages more than $6.25 million per year — huge numbers for a tight end — with $18.750 million over the first three years.

In comparison, Chargers All-Pro tight end Antonio Gates had $10 million guaranteed in his deal.

"I'm happy that I get to end my career where it started," Gonzalez told FOXSports.com. "I really didn't know what was going to happen for a while but in the end the Chiefs really stepped up for me.

"I'm waiting for the contract right now to get the final version and I plan to sign it later today."

The lone sticking point earlier Thursday had been the structure of the deal — how much of the money is back-loaded and how much is put into the first three years of the contract. Agent Tom Condon and the Chiefs continued to hammer out terms of the deal in the wee hours of Friday morning, and eventually reached an agreement.

"I think he deserved this contract," Chiefs general manager Carl Peterson said. "Was it more than I wanted to pay? Sure. It always is. But he is, in my opinion, the best tight end in pro football. This allows him to be compensated as he deserves. There have been some rookies who came in and got bigger signing bonuses, but put it all together, Tony's been the highest-paid tight end in the NFL for several years, and this makes sure he will remain so."

Had Gonzalez not agreed to the new deal, he had until 4 p.m. EST Friday to send in a letter voiding his contract in order to become an unrestricted free agent. Earlier in the year he told FOXSports.com that he would void and hit the open market if they could not agree on a substantial raise from his previous deal.

Had he hit the open market he would have had serious interest from a handful of teams looking to upgrade their receiving corps. In addition, the Chiefs head coach Herm Edwards in their year-end meeting ensured Gonzalez that they would use his receiving skills even more next year than they had down the stretch this season.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

LOL Now that is funny. Well they can probably kiss their chances of landing a solid free agent in off season goodbye. I can't believe they paid him that when he's entering the twilight of his career. Actually I can considering what Law got. :giggle: He's good, but that's way too much money especially when he's going to be blocking most of the time. What a joke.

[-Slap-]

That's insane.

[boltaneer]

Holy crap, this is hilarious.

LOL Now that is funny. Well they can probably kiss their chances of landing a solid free agent in off season goodbye. I can't believe they paid him that when he's entering the twilight of his career. Actually I can considering what Law got. :giggle: He's good, but that's way too much money especially when he's going to be blocking most of the time. What a joke.

It's rediculous that they're paying him nearly double what Gates received, since Gates is still improving and hasn't reached his peak. TG has slowly been on the decline in the past couple of years.

Though I believe Gates will get a new contract in the next year or two, that doesn't ignore the fact that the Chiefs overpaid their declining TE.

I will say this though, it's always good to see star players finish out their careers with their team. Everytime I saw Seau in a Dolphins or Patriots uniform, it was just wrong.

[yerner]

what a horrible move. no tight end is worth that money. gonzo doesnt really fill seats. come on, who seriously goes to a football game to watch tony gonzalez. like if he left no one would show up. they are the biggest sheep in the country after the skins fans. they could have spent more wisely.

[kmartin575]

Talk about an insane cap move. The Chiefs have ensured that they will be in cap hell for a few years. Gonzo is a great talent, but the money they are paying will be needed to rebuild an ancient offense. I hope King Carl stays with KC for years to come. ^5


The Chiefs' Tony Gonzalez told FOXSports.com that he is very close to a five-year extension to remain in Kansas City rather than hit the free agent market. The deal includes a stunning $17 million in guaranteed bonus money and averages more than $6.25 million per year — huge numbers for a tight end — with $18 million over the first three years

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6362970?FSO1&ATT=HMA


Hey smart guy, look at the part of the article you just posted. "With $18 million over the first three years." That is heavily front loaded. You know what that means? He will get most of his money in the first 3 years of his contract when he should still be playing at the same level. We can cut him after those three years with not much of a cap hit.

I hate to dissapoint you but this signing is not going to break the bank or put us in cap hell. It is a very manageable contract that can easily be voided after three years with minimal cap hit.

The Chiefs have a good amount of cap room this year and are only going to have more by the time free agency will start. Carl Peterson has said he will approach Trent Green about reworking his contract. Priest Holmes is likely to retire, freeing up more money. Will Shields could possibly retire, freeing up more money. The Chiefs are sure to cut or trade some of the high priced players who are not producing including Eric Hicks, Greg Wesley, Ryan Sims, Kendrell Bell, Dante Hall, etc.. Most of those guys are making well over a million. By cutting most of those guys we can get younger and save alot of cap room at the same time. None of them are important pieces on this team.

Again, sorry to dissapoint you Broncos fans. But this move did not break the bank and we have the money to spend in free agency.

[Tredici]

Again, sorry to dissapoint you Broncos fans. But this move did not break the bank and we have the money to spend in free agency.

"Gonzalez started 15 games in 2006, leading the club with 73 receptions for 900 yards with five touchdowns. "

I for one, am not in the least bit disappointed. Spin it how you want, that's mad bank for that type of production and he isn't getting any younger. Strictly a panic move after Gonzo hinted he may want to leave and hook up with a winner. Played Carl like a loose slot. Ka Ching.

[Tredici]

Give Eddie some more money too. Those couple catches against Denver every season deserve to keep him in the number one wideout spot for a few more years.

[kmartin575]

Holy crap, this is hilarious.

Chiefs agree to extension for TE Gonzalez
Jay Glazer / FOXSports.com
Posted: 3 hours ago

The Kansas City Chiefs have reached an agreement on a contract extension with Tony Gonzalez, their future Hall Of Fame tight end.

Early Friday, Gonzalez told FOXSports.com that he was very close to a five-year extension to remain in Kansas City rather than hit the free agent market. The deal includes a stunning $17.750 million in guaranteed bonus money and averages more than $6.25 million per year — huge numbers for a tight end — with $18.750 million over the first three years.

In comparison, Chargers All-Pro tight end Antonio Gates had $10 million guaranteed in his deal.

"I'm happy that I get to end my career where it started," Gonzalez told FOXSports.com. "I really didn't know what was going to happen for a while but in the end the Chiefs really stepped up for me.

"I'm waiting for the contract right now to get the final version and I plan to sign it later today."

The lone sticking point earlier Thursday had been the structure of the deal — how much of the money is back-loaded and how much is put into the first three years of the contract. Agent Tom Condon and the Chiefs continued to hammer out terms of the deal in the wee hours of Friday morning, and eventually reached an agreement.

"I think he deserved this contract," Chiefs general manager Carl Peterson said. "Was it more than I wanted to pay? Sure. It always is. But he is, in my opinion, the best tight end in pro football. This allows him to be compensated as he deserves. There have been some rookies who came in and got bigger signing bonuses, but put it all together, Tony's been the highest-paid tight end in the NFL for several years, and this makes sure he will remain so."

Had Gonzalez not agreed to the new deal, he had until 4 p.m. EST Friday to send in a letter voiding his contract in order to become an unrestricted free agent. Earlier in the year he told FOXSports.com that he would void and hit the open market if they could not agree on a substantial raise from his previous deal.

Had he hit the open market he would have had serious interest from a handful of teams looking to upgrade their receiving corps. In addition, the Chiefs head coach Herm Edwards in their year-end meeting ensured Gonzalez that they would use his receiving skills even more next year than they had down the stretch this season.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

LOL Now that is funny. Well they can probably kiss their chances of landing a solid free agent in off season goodbye. I can't believe they paid him that when he's entering the twilight of his career. Actually I can considering what Law got. :giggle: He's good, but that's way too much money especially when he's going to be blocking most of the time. What a joke.


Your an idiot, you know that? Are you guys too stupid to read the article you quoted? Most of that money is in the first three years of the contract. Oh my god!!! He is going to average around $6.25 million a year. Big freaking deal. That is probably only $2 million more than last year. That is the price tag for a playmaker. I could go on rants about how the Broncos overpaid for Javon Walker, a wide receiver who is only a couple of years younger than Gonzalez. Once he is 30 maybe the Broncos will be regretting paying him all of that money. At 29 by this Summer and very close to 30 I am sure the Broncos might be regretting paying Champ Bailey all of that money. I'm sure by 2010 the Broncos are going to be severely regretting a base salary of almost $10 million. By then Champ Bailey will be 32. Maybe the Broncos should worrry about overpaying for Gerrard Warren, a defensive tackle who just happens to SUCK!!!!!

Also, don't you think the Chiefs might just have a plan to upgrade there offensive line through the draft and free agency this year? Or, you must think they are just going to continue on with the same crappy offensive line. I would worry about your offensive line first before I worry about ours. Your crappy O-line made the Chiefs average D-line all look like pro bowlers back on Thanksgiving.

[kmartin575]

"Gonzalez started 15 games in 2006, leading the club with 73 receptions for 900 yards with five touchdowns. "

I for one, am not in the least bit disappointed. Spin it how you want, that's mad bank for that type of production and he isn't getting any younger. Strictly a panic move after Gonzo hinted he may want to leave and hook up with a winner. Played Carl like a loose slot. Ka Ching.

No it's not. He is making most of the money over the first three years. After then we can cut him with very little charge to us.

[youcandoit1687]

Your an idiot, you know that? Are you guys too stupid to read the article you quoted? Most of that money is in the first three years of the contract. Oh my god!!! He is going to average around $6.25 million a year. Big freaking deal. That is probably only $2 million more than last year. That is the price tag for a playmaker. I could go on rants about how the Broncos overpaid for Javon Walker, a wide receiver who is only a couple of years younger than Gonzalez. Once he is 30 maybe the Broncos will be regretting paying him all of that money. At 29 by this Summer and very close to 30 I am sure the Broncos might be regretting paying Champ Bailey all of that money. I'm sure by 2010 the Broncos are going to be severely regretting a base salary of almost $10 million. By then Champ Bailey will be 32. Maybe the Broncos should worrry about overpaying for Gerrard Warren, a defensive tackle who just happens to SUCK!!!!!

Also, don't you think the Chiefs might just have a plan to upgrade there offensive line through the draft and free agency this year? Or, you must think they are just going to continue on with the same crappy offensive line. I would worry about your offensive line first before I worry about ours. Your crappy O-line made the Chiefs average D-line all look like pro bowlers back on Thanksgiving.

Boy, you're feisty today, huh?

The Chiefs trolls seem to be stepping up their nuissance efforts to make up for the departure of Bob.

[SportinOne]

Someone is lurking... (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/member.php?u=2284)

[Tredici]

No it's not. He is making most of the money over the first three years. After then we can cut him with very little charge to us.


I bolded the part in your post which for some reason you think makes everyone here the idiot....

Of course I could add the sentence after that.

[Clockwork Orange]

Better listen to him, folks. He's the gifted one who pointed out that people turn 30 after they turn 29.

[Florida_Bronco]

Better listen to him, folks. He's the gifted one who pointed out that people turn 30 after they turn 29.

Hilarious!

KMartin really isn't the sharpest tool in the shed.

[Tredici]

Better listen to him, folks. He's the gifted one who pointed out that people turn 30 after they turn 29.

And in those three years when they are giving Tony "most of the money" he'll be 31. Then 32. Then 33. It's somehow significant. Or maybe it's just the aging process on other teams that really mean some secret something.

I guess gauranteed money upfront is way better than some of the backloaded salaries mentioned. I mean, no way any of those could ever be re-structured.

[Kaylore]

Your an idiot, you know that? Are you guys too stupid to read the article you quoted? Most of that money is in the first three years of the contract. Oh my god!!! He is going to average around $6.25 million a year. Big freaking deal. That is probably only $2 million more than last year. That is the price tag for a playmaker. I could go on rants about how the Broncos overpaid for Javon Walker, a wide receiver who is only a couple of years younger than Gonzalez. Once he is 30 maybe the Broncos will be regretting paying him all of that money. At 29 by this Summer and very close to 30 I am sure the Broncos might be regretting paying Champ Bailey all of that money. I'm sure by 2010 the Broncos are going to be severely regretting a base salary of almost $10 million. By then Champ Bailey will be 32. Maybe the Broncos should worrry about overpaying for Gerrard Warren, a defensive tackle who just happens to SUCK!!!!!

Also, don't you think the Chiefs might just have a plan to upgrade there offensive line through the draft and free agency this year? Or, you must think they are just going to continue on with the same crappy offensive line. I would worry about your offensive line first before I worry about ours. Your crappy O-line made the Chiefs average D-line all look like pro bowlers back on Thanksgiving.

Hilarious! Wow, what a drama queen. Me thinks he protests too much, don't you?

Here's my favorite parts:

Most of that money is in the first three years of the contract.
I love how this is supposed to be a point in case and he's the only one missing it.


At 29 by this Summer and very close to 30 I am sure the Broncos might be regretting paying Champ Bailey all of that money.
Hilarious! I can't believe he did it again! you'd think after being ridiculed in signatures that he'd realize what he is saying. He once again is telling us that 30 comes after 29! :~ohyah!:



Also, don't you think the Chiefs might just have a plan to upgrade there offensive line through the draft and free agency this year? Or, you must think they are just going to continue on with the same crappy offensive line.
You mean like last season with the amazing Kyle Turley? No. No I do not expect Carl Peterson to have a plan. Check that. I expect him to have a very poor plan where he overpays for some more past their prime duds like Kendrell Bell, Tony G. and Ty Law. In fact I'm pretty certain that he's afraid of the draft and would rather fill the team with expensive re-treads than risk another Simms fiasco.:wave:

Gotta love those chef fans.

[maven]

Someone is lurking... (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/member.php?u=2284)

What is wrong with that? He should be free to post as he chooses.

[Kaylore]

And in those three years when they are giving Tony "most of the money" he'll be 31. Then 32. Then 33. It's somehow significant. Or maybe it's just the aging process on other teams that really mean some secret something.


LOL

[crazyhorse]

Yeah...the Chiefs signed TG to a 3 year 6 mill a year deal. Boy that was dumb.

I wonder if the Donks will keep putting thier 60 million dollar corner on him with limited success.




Donko fans..........I love you retards.

[OrangeShadow]

Hilarious!

KMartin really isn't the sharpest tool in the shed.

:rofl: see my sig

[Drek]

Cheifs just blew the biggest TE contracts out of the water. Hell, Gonzalez would be overpaid as a WR with his recent numbers. A front loaded deal doesn't make up for it either, it just reduces flexability the team could have had these first three years to save having to pay him a little extra when cutting his last two.

But hey, like the cheifs fans said, they're cutting all sorts of guys, so that'll free up tons of money. I'm sure Peterson will do a bang up job finding cheaper, better replacements at those positions, just like he's done his whole career.

[DenverBrit]

I bolded the part in your post which for some reason you think makes everyone here the idiot....

Of course I could add the sentence after that.

Beat me to it. :thumbsup:

It's amazing how someone that clueless drops by, calls others 'idiots,' then makes the same point.

By the time KC rebuild their O Line, find receivers and a QB, Gonzo's 3 years will be up.

[kmartin575]

Beat me to it. :thumbsup:

It's amazing how someone that clueless drops by, calls others 'idiots,' then makes the same point.

By the time KC rebuild their O Line, find receivers and a QB, Gonzo's 3 years will be up.


We already have that QB. His name is Brodie Croyle.

And you want to know how easy it will be for us to fix the O-line and find a #1 WR?

Draft a guy like OT Levi Brown in the first round.
Draft a WR such as Robert Meachem or Dwayne Bowe in the second round.
Sign an OG like Eric Steinbach, Derrick Dockery, or Kris Dielman in free agency.

With those three moves we would have an elite WR prospect and a much improved offensive line.

Plus, it's not like Denver has the offensive line to brag about anymore either.

[BroncoInferno]

We already have that QB. His name is Brodie Croyle.

Hilarious!

[Tredici]

[QUOTE=kmartin575;1441657]
Draft a guy like OT Levi Brown in the first round.
Draft a WR such as Robert Meachem or Dwayne Bowe in the second round.
Sign an OG like Eric Steinbach, Derrick Dockery, or Kris Dielman in free agency.

QUOTE]

Easy as I Like P-I-E

All problems solved.

Dust off hat. Ride off into the sunset.

No wonder Cwazy always feels compelled to jump in when his fellow fans decide to post. Even though his comments on Champ are ridiculous in themself. Limited success? Well, Bailey tried to match the production of Surtain. Some things are just too hard for him. Especially since it was Nick Ferguson's assignment to be on the tight ends until he was injured. Wouldn't want any facts to get in your way, though. Don't worry about Champ's contract. When the time comes it will be renegotiated. It does give you something to keep harping on in the meantime. Chef fans always whistling in the dark. Shaky and off key.

Now get busy and give Eddie mo money. He need it. bee'lee dat.

[BroncoStampede]

I think the Chiefs fans support for this move has more to do with keeping a potential hall of famer with the team for his whole career than it does regarding the strength of the team.

[Bronx33]

Yeah...the Chiefs signed TG to a 3 year 6 mill a year deal. Boy that was dumb.

I wonder if the Donks will keep putting thier 60 million dollar corner on him with limited success.




Donko fans..........I love you retards.


It will be cool to see the cheaps pay top dollar to a once great player and at the same time get to watch his playing level slide year after year ala brett farve. (front row seats at top dollar) nice deal peterson YOU ROCK!

[Tredici]

I think the Chiefs fans support for this move has more to do with keeping a potential hall of famer with the team for his whole career than it does regarding the strength of the team.

No doubt and that's okay by me. It also says Tony is willing to give up the Championships for the money, and that's okay too.

[DenverBrit]

We already have that QB. His name is Brodie Croyle.

And you want to know how easy it will be for us to fix the O-line and find a #1 WR?

Draft a guy like OT Levi Brown in the first round.
Draft a WR such as Robert Meachem or Dwayne Bowe in the second round.
Sign an OG like Eric Steinbach, Derrick Dockery, or Kris Dielman in free agency.

With those three moves we would have an elite WR prospect and a much improved offensive line.



Go ahead and book your SB tickets now....beat the rush. ;D

[Crushaholic]

I'm sure the SPECTACULAR pass-catching ability Tony showed last week contributed to this reward...ROFL!

[Kaylore]

We already have that QB. His name is Brodie Croyle.
LOL

Plus, it's not like Denver has the offensive line to brag about anymore either.

Actually we're very young and talented on the line, so as usual you don't know what you're talking about. Even if this comment was true, you realize we draft ahead of you. :wave:

[kmartin575]

LOL



Actually we're very young and talented on the line, so as usual you don't know what you're talking about. Even if this comment was true, you realize we draft ahead of you. :wave:


So your backups are very young and talented? That is yet to be determined. Just like every Chiefs fan thinks OG Tre' Stallings and C Rudy Niswanger are going to develop into solid starters, Broncos fans think the same thing about Greg Eslinger and Chris Kuper. Who knows in both cases. The Chiefs have some young talent of there own on the O-line but it is yet to be seen how that talent will develop. I hope for the best, but I still think we need some help in this years draft.

[Florida_Bronco]

We already have that QB. His name is Brodie Croyle.

And you want to know how easy it will be for us to fix the O-line and find a #1 WR?

Draft a guy like OT Levi Brown in the first round.
Draft a WR such as Robert Meachem or Dwayne Bowe in the second round.
Sign an OG like Eric Steinbach, Derrick Dockery, or Kris Dielman in free agency.

With those three moves we would have an elite WR prospect and a much improved offensive line.

Plus, it's not like Denver has the offensive line to brag about anymore either.

You should really make a move to be the Chiefs new GM. You be an undeniable asset to that team. I mean come on, do you know how many people in Missouri don't know that 30 comes after 29?

This would make a great campaign picture right here.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/jhemp41/redneck.jpg

[400HZ]

We already have that QB. His name is Brodie Croyle.

And you want to know how easy it will be for us to fix the O-line and find a #1 WR?

Draft a guy like OT Levi Brown in the first round.
Draft a WR such as Robert Meachem or Dwayne Bowe in the second round.
Sign an OG like Eric Steinbach, Derrick Dockery, or Kris Dielman in free agency.

With those three moves we would have an elite WR prospect and a much improved offensive line.

Plus, it's not like Denver has the offensive line to brag about anymore either.

Hahaha Brody Croyle. With Kyle Turley protecting his blindside. Hahahahaha

[crazyhorse]

Easy as I Like P-I-E

All problems solved.

Dust off hat. Ride off into the sunset.

No wonder Cwazy always feels compelled to jump in when his fellow fans decide to post. Even though his comments on Champ are ridiculous in themself. Limited success? Well, Bailey tried to match the production of Surtain. Some things are just too hard for him. Especially since it was Nick Ferguson's assignment to be on the tight ends until he was injured. Wouldn't want any facts to get in your way, though. Don't worry about Champ's contract. When the time comes it will be renegotiated. It does give you something to keep harping on in the meantime. Chef fans always whistling in the dark. Shaky and off key.

Now get busy and give Eddie mo money. He need it. bee'lee dat.

I'm sorry if I hit a nerve.

[OrangeShadow]

Wow kmart, you really should just shut up and stop making a fool out of yourself.

[Tredici]

I'm sorry if I hit a nerve.

You should be sorry for being so lame. Rag on Champ all you want. It's cute. But silly.

[kmartin575]

Wow kmart, you really should just shut up and stop making a fool out of yourself.

How am I making a fool of myself? Maybe the "30 after 29" comment was a little dumb. Ok, you got me there. But am I supposed to just agree when Broncos fans think we will never ever add any more talent and that we will be a 4-12 team for the rest of our existence? It's absurd. You guys keep saying crap about us having nobody at wide receiver and on the offensive line. Well guys, I could say the exact same thing about the Broncos at safety and on the defensive line. However, do I think that will last forever? No, I don't. I'm pretty damn sure the Broncos will find a way to get younger at safety and to improve a pathetic defensive line. They will get better in these areas through the draft and maybe through free agency. So why is it so difficult to think the Chiefs can improve at wide receiver and on the offensive line this year? Why is it so difficult to think that Brodie Croyle is our starter at QB at least by 2008?

[Florida_Bronco]

Well guys, I could say the exact same thing about the Broncos at safety and on the defensive line.

Just an FYI, we have 1 pro bowler at safety and I'm pretty sure our D-line produced more sacks than your D-line did. :)

[kmartin575]

Just an FYI, we have 1 pro bowler at safety and I'm pretty sure our D-line produced more sacks than your D-line did. :)

Yes you have 1 pro bowler at safety. One pro bowler at safety by the name of John Lynch who is over the hill and made the pro bowl on name recognition alone (same can probably be said for Will Shields). Your D-line as a whole (including the backups) may have had more sacks but not the starters. I will take our young DE tandem of Hali/Allen over your DE's anyday. The only player from your D-line that I would like to have on our team is Gerrard Warren and he isn't even all that great.

[Florida_Bronco]

Yes you have 1 pro bowler at safety. One pro bowler at safety by the name of John Lynch who is over the hill and made the pro bowl on name recognition alone (same can probably be said for Will Shields). Your D-line as a whole (including the backups) may have had more sacks but not the starters. I will take our young DE tandem of Hali/Allen over your DE's anyday. The only player from your D-line that I would like to have on our team is Gerrard Warren and he isn't even all that great.

John Lynch does exactly what we need him to and his hardly ever caught out of position. Even with his age, I'd take him over every single one of your safeties.

On the D-line, We got better production from a 4th rounder than you did with a 1st rounder. Our D-line also comes alot cheaper.

[kmartin575]

John Lynch does exactly what we need him to and his hardly ever caught out of position. Even with his age, I'd take him over every single one of your safeties.

On the D-line, We got better production from a 4th rounder than you did with a 1st rounder. Our D-line also comes alot cheaper.


That's fine. And I will take up and coming star Jarrad Page over John Lynch every day. I will take hard hitting Bernard Pollard over John Lynch every day.

You got better production from a 4th rounder? Maybe he had .5 more sacks but you didn't get more production. Dumervil was a situational player. Tamba Hali was an every down player and was a force against the run as well. Dumervil also doesn't come close to matching the 5 forced fumbles, 1 fumble recovery, and 1 interception that Hali had.

And no, your D-line is not alot cheaper. The large contract you guys gave to the overpaid Gerrard Warren instantly made him higher paid than anybody on our defensive line.

[Tredici]

That's fine. And I will take up and coming star Jarrad Page over John Lynch every day. I will take hard hitting Bernard Pollard over John Lynch every day.

You got better production from a 4th rounder? Maybe he had .5 more sacks but you didn't get more production. Dumervil was a situational player. Tamba Hali was an every down player and was a force against the run as well. Dumervil also doesn't come close to matching the 5 forced fumbles, 1 fumble recovery, and 1 interception that Hali had.

And no, your D-line is not alot cheaper. The large contract you guys gave to the overpaid Gerrard Warren instantly made him higher paid than anybody on our defensive line.

:mullet2:

[24champ]

And you want to know how easy it will be for us to fix the O-line and find a #1 WR?

How did webb and parker turn out for you? ROFL!

You know since it is so easy to find a #1 receiver.

[Tredici]

How am I making a fool of myself? Maybe the "30 after 29" comment was a little dumb. Ok, you got me there. But am I supposed to just agree when Broncos fans think we will never ever add any more talent and that we will be a 4-12 team for the rest of our existence? It's absurd. You guys keep saying crap about us having nobody at wide receiver and on the offensive line. Well guys, I could say the exact same thing about the Broncos at safety and on the defensive line. However, do I think that will last forever? No, I don't. I'm pretty damn sure the Broncos will find a way to get younger at safety and to improve a pathetic defensive line. They will get better in these areas through the draft and maybe through free agency. So why is it so difficult to think the Chiefs can improve at wide receiver and on the offensive line this year? Why is it so difficult to think that Brodie Croyle is our starter at QB at least by 2008?

Can you find a post where it says KC will never add any more talent? Can you find a post that says KC will be 4-12 for the rest of their existence? I think not Mr. Drama King.

Apparently picking up the exact player that's going to solidify a position (or two or three) is eminently do -able in your scenarios. Yeah, it happens all the time doesn't it? Teams get exactly the guys to fill their every need season in and season out.

It's not difficult at all to believe Brodie Croyle will be your starter. Probably won't find many posts which say he won't.

BTW in 2005 the Chiefs paid Hicks about 1.1 Mil per sack. So let's not over worry any Bronco contracts, mmmkay?

[kmartin575]

Can you find a post where it says KC will never add any more talent? Can you find a post that says KC will be 4-12 for the rest of their existence? I think not Mr. Drama King.

Apparently picking up the exact player that's going to solidify a position (or two or three) is eminently do -able in your scenarios. Yeah, it happens all the time doesn't it? Teams get exactly the guys to fill their every need season in and season out.

It's not difficult at all to believe Brodie Croyle will be your starter. Probably won't find many posts which say he won't.

BTW in 2005 the Chiefs paid Hicks about 1.1 Mil per sack. So let's not over worry any Bronco contracts, mmmkay?


I will be he first to agree Hicks is overpaid. I'm pretty sure you will find his ass on the street this year.

[Florida_Bronco]

That's fine. And I will take up and coming star Jarrad Page over John Lynch every day. I will take hard hitting Bernard Pollard over John Lynch every day.

I take it back, maybe you aren't smart enough to be a GM.

[Bronco Yoda]

I totally disagree. Carl had no choice. Gonzo's a fan favorite and one of their only good players on offense left who isn't old. A move like this keeps the fans happy and presents the illusion that he really cares. Even though the other areas need to be addressed, as long as they get some home wins and beat the Broncos in the regular season in their "Super Bowl," the fans will happily buy their tickets and jerseys, feed the mediocrity and be none the wiser.

That about sums it all up. Guess Gonzo will have to be satisfied with all that cash because jewelry won't be in his future staying in mulletville.

[crazyhorse]

Just an FYI, we have 1 pro bowler at safety and I'm pretty sure our D-line produced more sacks than your D-line did. :)

I agree with you. The Broncos should just leave the D-line the way it is.

[crazyhorse]

You should be sorry for being so lame. Rag on Champ all you want. It's cute. But silly.

C'mon now....I don't have anything against Champ. I don't love him in a "batteries required" sorta way you do. But I think he's a good player.

[AFCWestFan]

No matter how you cut it its a great move and one that the Chiefs had to make. Herm is an idiot no doubt but you cannot fault the logic that they need the skills Gonzo has as well as his team leadership especially as they move to a new QB.

Broncos would love to have a guy of his talent, leadership, and citizenship. Carl did the right thing.

[Bronx33]

This move could go either way IMO on one hand KC fans could get to watch their great TE skills slide year after year getting booed or he could play consistantly and serve as a team moral/fan booster. (could go either way) but i will say the KC fans have already showed their colors by leaving early and booing such players as trint (whom has already been kicked to the curb).

Goodluck to the chets next season...

[Florida_Bronco]

No matter how you cut it its a great move and one that the Chiefs had to make. Herm is an idiot no doubt but you cannot fault the logic that they need the skills Gonzo has as well as his team leadership especially as they move to a new QB.

Broncos would love to have a guy of his talent, leadership, and citizenship. Carl did the right thing.

Keeping Gonzo was undoubtedly a good move, but they over paid for him.

And for the record, Denver has no shortage of quality leaders and citzens, and we have a younger and more talented TE by the name of Scheffler.

[crazyhorse]

Keeping Gonzo was undoubtedly a good move, but they over paid for him.

And for the record, Denver has no shortage of quality leaders and citzens, and we have a younger and more talented TE by the name of Scheffler.


That was a homer statement.

[Florida_Bronco]

That was a homer statement.

I disagree. Scheffler was one of the most physically gifted TEs to come out in quite some time. Only Vernon Davis was more athletic in recent years. All that remains to be seen is if Scheffler puts it together on the field, but all signs point to yes.

[Tredici]

That was a homer statement.

So what?

[kmartin575]

I disagree. Scheffler was one of the most physically gifted TEs to come out in quite some time. Only Vernon Davis was more athletic in recent years. All that remains to be seen is if Scheffler puts it together on the field, but all signs point to yes.

Faster does not mean more talented. I doubt Scheffler ever becomes the complete package that Tony Gonzalez is.

[Florida_Bronco]

Faster does not mean more talented. I doubt Scheffler ever becomes the complete package that Tony Gonzalez is.

Judging by their rookie seasons, Scheffler could easily become better. Scheffler brings more speed, agility and big play ability to the table than Gonzo does, and his hands and blocking are at least as goods.

[crazyhorse]

Judging by their rookie seasons, Scheffler could easily become better. Scheffler brings more speed, agility and big play ability to the table than Gonzo does, and his hands and blocking are at least as goods.

Dude....you should take that act on the road. That's funny stuff.

[kmartin575]

Judging by their rookie seasons, Scheffler could easily become better. Scheffler brings more speed, agility and big play ability to the table than Gonzo does, and his hands and blocking are at least as goods.

His blocking as good? Wow. I'm sure Scheffler will turn out just fine but to say his blocking is as good is rediculous.