Patriots at Chargers - Who wins?

[Black96WS6]

I don't know if you guys are aware of this or not, however there are a lot of obnoxious Patriots fans over at SignOnSanDiego forums spouting off about how they have Brady, Belichick, and they talk about all the recent superbowls they've won in the past, blah blah blah,...basically not one of them is giving SD a shot.

I, obviously, feel differently. However, I'd like to hear what non-biased fans have to say about the upcoming game.

Since your team has played both teams, who do you feel will win? What did you take away from the games as the strengths and weaknesses of both teams?

[cutthemdown]

I'd say both teams are strong upfront on the Dline. Both teams easier to throw on then to run on. I noticed the line is pats getting 4.5 points. As a gambler I would have to take pats based on Brady's experience and skill being greater then Rivers. Because fans don't care about lines and odds though I say Chargers by a late FG.

[ludo21]

Patriots can win this game.

Shut down LT (boy is that ever easy ::) )

If they can get some TO's off of Rivers this game can be won by the PAts.

SD defense is good, but with Brady throwing to whatever WR he feels like could be tough on them with their weak CB's.

Im pulling for the Pats, but SD has so much talent, I dont see them losing this one.

[Sassy]

I don't think NE will stop LT...no one has.
NE needs to keep the Charger offense off the field to have a chance.
Gates has also looked good lately...

[RhymesayersDU]

This game will be up to Rivers. IMO, the Pats can't stop the Chargers from doing what they want to do, but much like Grossman in Chicago, if Rivers decides to turn the ball over, all bets are off.

As long as Rivers plays well, or at least doesn't turn the ball over, Chargers win.

[cutthemdown]

If pats sell out to stop LT Rivers may have to win game.

[Blueflame]

The only postseason game the Pats have lost in the Tom Brady era was last season in Denver. They have an amazing record of playoff wins. Conversely, Marty Schottenheimer has an inarguable tendency toward the playoff choke. Throw in Brady's playoff experience and Rivers' lack thereof... and I like the Pats in this one.

[Jetmeck]

As long as Rivers plays well, or at least doesn't turn the ball over, Chargers win.


I am sick too death of the Patriots basically getting a free pass to the playoffs because of that weak ass division they play in. The Chargers are the most complete team in the NFL right now.

[smalltowngrll]

I say Chargers win.

[SouthStndJunkie]

Belichick versus Marty in the playoffs.

All I know is Philip Rivers better not play like he did at the end of the year.

This is going to be a really close game, but I give the Pats the slight edge.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Go Patriots!!! and I feel so dirty for saying that. Not a fan of calling a HC one of the best in the league when his record is well under .500 without his HoF starting QB, but I dislike the Chargers more.

[freak6]

I'm gonna trust my instincts in this one and go with the Patriots.

They have great TEs, two stud RBs, and one of the best clutch QBs EVER. The defense is stout, and the Chargers only hope is to force turnovers in my opinion. Rivers has been very shaky of late, and I think his confidence level is down going into this. With Belicek on the sideline, I can see him selling out stop LT and force Rivers to beat Asante Samuel and Co. The loss of Harrison definitely will effect this matchup, but I think Rivers will falter before Brady. The front 3 of the Pats is extremely talented, but the aging LBs could actually be a weakness, (of course not his holiness Bruschi). Neal and Gates vs the LBs will be very important, and the safety help will probably be neccessary especially if the rookie LT McNiel starts eating up Seymour when the Charger run left.

Brady should have success vs the Chargers 3-4 by spreading the field, and probably going no huddle to give them the advantage to press the Chargers rather than vice versa. Maroney has shown himself to be a playmaker and Dillon has a great nose for the endzone. I like the matchup of Brady vs Wade Philips. When Brady does get sacked, he has got to make sure not to cough up the ball.

I think the Patriots advantages in the passing game, coaching, and intangibles will get them the W so long as they don't fumble/throw the game away as they did last year.

[Orange_Beard]

The only chance the Pats have is Marty.
I just don't think the Pats are as good as past teams. IMHO they made a huge mistake letting both wideouts go. Braty will get hit. If he keeps his head and does not melt-down they may have a chance. After all Marty could screw up a wet-dream...
I will take the Chargers.

[Dr.5280]

Go Bolts. As a Broncos fan I want to be the first division in the NFL that has four SB winners. This is about being on top of the mountain as a conference.

[Popps]

I can't imagine SD has much of a problem with this game, but who knows these days. It would have some good comedy value if SD lost, because then we'd hear about how they're the greatest team to make the playoffs... and get their ass kicked.

[REB]

I picked the chargers in this one and the way my second half of the season picks have been, that means pats win :)

1-2-3-:Broncos:!!!!!!! :charge:

[Casper Bronco]

IMO Marty is going to let it all hangout. What does he have to lose? I'm sure he knows he's played it conservative in the playoffs in the past. If he just plays aggressive at least people can't say they lost the way he always does. San Diego wins easy!

[Jetmeck]

Steroid or diet pill or whatever boy and his cohorts will pound Brady boy into the turf.

[Mtbrncofn]

I'm hoping for the Pats, but it's gonna be rough. Just for the record, I don't want anyone in the AFC to win, but since there has to be a team from each conference...let it be the Pats.

[Spider]

To the entire Charger fan base , yeah all 15 of you ...........Chargers VS Pats .........if we ignore the marty choke factor ..........Defense wins this time of year .........

[Pendejo]

SD went in to Foxboro and annihilated the Pats last season, but that was with Brees under center. Rivers has been very suspect the last third of the season.

It's a tough one to call. San Diego doesn't have an especially strong home field advantage...and Belichick and Brady know how to win. Not to mention they have a pretty solid D.

I think the Bolts have to be a favorite in this one...although not by much. I'm interested in if the game gets tight...if Marty "the bounty" Schottenheimer takes over the offensive play calling...and SD's offense goes into a shell.

It happened in the 2004 playoffs against the Jets, and in 2005 the Chargers proved to be a gutless bunch when playing a 1st place schedule...

This is a good match up.

[Los Broncos]

I think ill take SD in this one, to much LT.

[Kaylore]

The Patriots match up pretty well for the Chargers. The Patriots run defense is pretty good. They are a good road team and the stadium isn't one of the harder ones to play in (Good weather, quiet crowd).

The Charger Secondary isn't that great. A Guy like Brady could really have a field day if he gets protection. The Patriots receivers aren't anything to get excited about, so if they can't get separation, it will help the Chargers.

I think the most interesting thing is Phillip Rivers. He really craps his pants on third down and during the blitz which suggests that he might be the key. Against Asante Samuel and the Pats front seven with guys like Warren and Seymour, I'm really curious how Rivers will do. Warren and Samuel in particular are really playing well right now.

Brady has already shown that he won't shut down during pressure, but if they can't run the ball, they won't do too much either.

My thought is that the game is a defensive one. I'm tired of the Patriots winning and I like LT more than I hate the rest of the douche bags on the Chargers, so I'd like to see them advance. If the Patriots beat the Chargers, they'll probably go all the way. I can't say the same thing for the Chargers just because of Marty.

Honestly, I don't know what to expect. The Boltz are the ones who broke the Patriots home game streak a year ago and that game led to their decline. Will this game do the same?

As for their fans, we are unique in that we have always beat them so they don't troll us the way they do other teams. I guess the Colts get it the worst. It's part of that Boston charm. :twokisses

[Crushaholic]

San Diego will win this at home. I know the Patriots are playing well right now, but LT is simply on a mission this year. Before the playoffs started, I said it would be SD or Baltimore in the SB. For the record, I see both of them getting to the AFC Championship game...

[dbfan21]

Even though the Pats are playing well right now, the Chargers are rested and hungry. They will find a way to win this game. I say: Chargers 26 Pats 17.

[Traveler]

Marty's playoff curse wiil resurface. Pats win this game.

[Dendave]

Marty's playoff curse wiil resurface. Pats win this game.

I agree, even if they win this week they will lose next week, or in the Super Bowl this is one curse that will never be broken.
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[BigBad]

Call me a homer all you like but I think we beat them by at least two touchdowns. There is NO WAY their slow LB's can stop LT AND Gates, no way. The Jets moved the ball against them for three quarters with no running game, no way they stop our balanced offense.

Plus if you watched the Pats this year they have had trouble protecting Brady. Last week, lost in all the Brady love by the media, is the fact that they had to go to Max-protect all game against the JETS! We dont need to Blitz to get pressure because of Merriman, Phillps, Castillo and co., so we can slide some guys off to stop the quick passes.

SD 34
NE 17

[Crowpointer]

I think the below photo of Ellis Hobbs from today's Boston Herald might sway your decision. Flight to California in t minus 7 hours.

[sirhcyennek81]

The team that ends up with more points when the clock reads 0:00.


:Broncos:

[sirhcyennek81]

Call me a homer all you like but I think we beat them by at least two touchdowns. There is NO WAY their slow LB's can stop LT AND Gates, no way. The Jets moved the ball against them for three quarters with no running game, no way they stop our balanced offense.

Plus if you watched the Pats this year they have had trouble protecting Brady. Last week, lost in all the Brady love by the media, is the fact that they had to go to Max-protect all game against the JETS! We dont need to Blitz to get pressure because of Merriman, Phillps, Castillo and co., so we can slide some guys off to stop the quick passes.

SD 34
NE 17



Jets did not play particularly well in that playoff game, they were disjointed and had a few big plays, namely because Harrison was out. You goys have alot on offense, but its not like the Patriots were lucky and just happened to make it to the postseason. Also, the Jets blitzed more in that game then any other game, and you wonder why the Patriots were in max protect?

:Broncos:

[55CrushEm]

I'm praying that SD wins.....:pray:

As I've said before, I live in New England....and the guy who started this thread is right....the Pats fans here are SOOOO obnoxious. Many of them really believe that they are the best sports team of all time.

And yes, when you ask them why they say they'll win....they never give you any analysis or breakdown of matchups....it's always, "Because we have Brady."

Additionally, LT while being a great player...is also very classy.

Lastly, I've never understood people's dislike of Marty. Sure, he's a playoff choker, and I'm glad he's not our coach.....but I have no reason to DISLIKE him....he's a great regular season coach, and I have no reason to NOT want him to finally win the big one.....

Rules of elimination.....I hate the Ravens, Pats, Colts......SD I hate the least.

[Hotrod]

LT at home hahahahaha sorry Patswin this one is a laugher.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Merriman is going to squash Brady. LT is going to rush for 150 and Rivers is going to throw 2 TDs.

I'm sick of listening to the East Coast love affair with the Patriots.

[Arkansas Bronco]

I never pick against the Pats in the playoffs unless they are playing us.

[Rohirrim]

The Pats have been juggling with injuries all year. As we all saw last week, they are now healthy. Bad news for the Chargers. Brady was in a big time groove in his last game. If the Chargers can't take him out of that groove, he'll burn them big. Merriman better crank up a few extra CCs. The other thing in this game, the Pats roster is full of old time, proven vets who have been there, done that. The Chargers roster is full of puppies who will be peeing all over themselves with excitement. If they get behind, can they keep their poise? The key is whether or not the Chargers pass rush can get in the backfield and mess with Brady. If they can, they win. If they can't, they lose. I'd also have to give the TO edge to the Pats. The last I heard, Harrison, Seymour and Brewski are still out there. Asante is good for at least one pick. Then, there's the Marty factor. I really don't care one way or the other, but if I was laying money down, it would be on the Pats.

Matchup of the day: Mankins on Williams. That will be a snot knocker!

[toad]

I think it will be a great game....and I've got to go with the Patriots.

Stats-wise:
- SD averages 365 yards and 31 pts/game
- SD averages surrendering 301 yards and 19 pts/game
- NE averages 335 yards and 24 pts/game
- NE averages surrendering 294 yards and 14 pts/game

So without getting too deep into the numbers and looking at SOS, common opponents, etc: SD has the better offensive output by 7 pts/game but NE has the better defensive output by 5 pts/game. Differential of 2 points.

IMO, those 2 pts will be made up for by:
- Brady/Billicheck's playoff experience and success
- Billicheck's propensity to game plan very well against young QBs
- Marty's terrible playoff record
- 1st-year starting QBs typical playoff struggles
- Rivers somewhat injured
- The Patriots rolled last week where SD's rest could also mean "rust."

SD has the #2 rushing offense in the league but NE has the #5 rushing defense in the league. I'm sure LT will have a solid game but given NE's stoutness against the run and Bellicheck's solid planning SD may indeed have to put the ball in Rivers' hands often and, although I like Rivers, I just the the abovementioned "intangible" reasons may cause him problems.

[Atlas]

I hat ethe arrogant pats fans, I don't like Brady or Bilicheck, I also hate to see an AFC WEST team win it. Call it jealousy.. I don't like the fact that we have never seen a Charger fan up until 2 years ago now they are everywhere.

I'm going with tha Pats for the sole reason that Marty put $100 bounty on Bronco players when he was with the Chefs.

[55CrushEm]

I think it will be a great game....and I've got to go with the Patriots.

Stats-wise:
- SD averages 365 yards and 31 pts/game
- SD averages surrendering 301 yards and 19 pts/game
- NE averages 335 yards and 24 pts/game
- NE averages surrendering 294 yards and 14 pts/game

So without getting too deep into the numbers and looking at SOS, common opponents, etc: SD has the better offensive output by 7 pts/game but NE has the better defensive output by 5 pts/game. Differential of 2 points.

IMO, those 2 pts will be made up for by:
- Brady/Billicheck's playoff experience and success
- Billicheck's propensity to game plan very well against young QBs
- Marty's terrible playoff record
- 1st-year starting QBs typical playoff struggles
- Rivers somewhat injured
- The Patriots rolled last week where SD's rest could also mean "rust."

SD has the #2 rushing offense in the league but NE has the #5 rushing defense in the league. I'm sure LT will have a solid game but given NE's stoutness against the run and Bellicheck's solid planning SD may indeed have to put the ball in Rivers' hands often and, although I like Rivers, I just the the abovementioned "intangible" reasons may cause him problems.

You are forgetting one thing.....the AFC East had very easy schedules this year.....the AFC West had much tougher schedules.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Super human Breuski vs. Marty the choker

You make the call

[400HZ]

I think SD wins simply because they have more favorable matchups to exploit.

Pats will probably load up against LT, and Rivers will have a huge game.

[Rohirrim]

I think SD wins simply because they have more favorable matchups to exploit.

Pats will probably load up against LT, and Rivers will have a huge game.

As the poet says, "Hope springs eternal in the human breast." ;D

IMO, Belicheck will do the opposite. He'll hope to simply limit the damage from LT while focussing on messing with Rivers and going for the TOs. It's the TOs that will determine this one.

[Ron Mexico]

Can't they just both lose?

I guess if one has to win I'll want the Pats to be the team. I strongly dislike the Pats, but I absolutely want Schottenheimer out of the league. I can't stand him. He is WAY overrated. With the talent currently on the Chargers, any coach would look good. Good coaches like Shanny, Kubiak and yes, even Belicheck, would have an undefeated team with talent like that.

The talent favors SD but the post-season coaching favors the Pats. And speaking of talent, I'll take the experience of Brady over Rivers right now, too.

I still want them both to lose. Maybe I'll be happy if the Pats win and Belicheck gets "Paterno'd" on the sideline. :~ohyah!:

[Crowpointer]

You are forgetting one thing.....the AFC East had very easy schedules this year.....the AFC West had much tougher schedules.

OOPS !!!!! Combined record of San Diego's Opponents 117-139 .457% Combined record of the Patriots opponents 127-129 .496% I'm off to the airport . GO PATS !!!

[REB]

I'll tell ya. I was going to root for the Pats to win the Sb (even though I picked the Chargers) but, I'm tired of seeing Brady's face and hearing nothing about the Pat's winning it all again on every sports channel I turn on. Go SD...Bring it back to the west! ............

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[toad]

I think it will be a great game....and I've got to go with the Patriots.

Stats-wise:
- SD averages 365 yards and 31 pts/game
- SD averages surrendering 301 yards and 19 pts/game
- NE averages 335 yards and 24 pts/game
- NE averages surrendering 294 yards and 14 pts/game

So without getting too deep into the numbers and looking at SOS, common opponents, etc: SD has the better offensive output by 7 pts/game but NE has the better defensive output by 5 pts/game. Differential of 2 points.

IMO, those 2 pts will be made up for by:
- Brady/Billicheck's playoff experience and success
- Billicheck's propensity to game plan very well against young QBs
- Marty's terrible playoff record
- 1st-year starting QBs typical playoff struggles
- Rivers somewhat injured
- The Patriots rolled last week where SD's rest could also mean "rust."

SD has the #2 rushing offense in the league but NE has the #5 rushing defense in the league. I'm sure LT will have a solid game but given NE's stoutness against the run and Bellicheck's solid planning SD may indeed have to put the ball in Rivers' hands often and, although I like Rivers, I just the the abovementioned "intangible" reasons may cause him problems.

You are forgetting one thing.....the AFC East had very easy schedules this year.....the AFC West had much tougher schedules.

OOPS !!!!! Combined record of San Diego's Opponents 117-139 .457% Combined record of the Patriots opponents 127-129 .496% I'm off to the airport . GO PATS !!!

That is correct.

Some other data to consider:

NE faced 4 eventual playoff teams and 4 playoff "bubble" teams.
SD faced 4 eventual playoff teams and 3 playoff "bubble" teams.

Both teams faced 9 teams that ended the season .500 or better.

The AFC East (NE) had a combined record of 35-29.
The AFC West (SD) had a combined record of 34-30.

SD played the leagues worst team (2-14 Oakland) twice.
SD played the NFC West, arguably one of the weaker divisions in football.

Both divisions producted 2 playoff teams.

On paper SD certainly appeared to have the easier schedule but the data above suggests that, at minimum, they were at least close.

[Bronx33]

Whomevers D steps it up wins...

[55CrushEm]

OOPS !!!!! Combined record of San Diego's Opponents 117-139 .457% Combined record of the Patriots opponents 127-129 .496% I'm off to the airport . GO PATS !!!

OOPS !! Nice twist.

You're counting the 2-12 Oakland Raiders TWICE (as SD played them twice).....very misleading. Also, SD had a third place schedule, which made 2 of their games easier, than say, Denver's. Since the worst record of any AFC East team was 6-10, that is 4 games better than Oakland.....multiplied by 2, and you get an 8 win difference......so right there, I've accounted for 8 of your 10 win difference of opponents between SD and NE.

All in all, however, the NFC West (who SD played) is regarded as better than the NFC North (who NE played), albeit slightly....yes, the NFC North teams had ONE more win, but that is skewed by Chicago's 13-3 schedule.

Similarly, SD plays Denver and KC twice.....NE played NYJ and Buffalo. IMO, regardless of record, Den/KC are both better than NYJ/Buffalo......again, this is due to the tougher opponents that Den/KC had, as opposed to NYJ/Buffalo....

[Traveler]

I'll tell ya. I was going to root for the Pats to win the Sb (even though I picked the Chargers) but, I'm tired of seeing Brady's face and hearing nothing about the Pat's winning it all again on every sports channel I turn on. Go SD...Bring it back to the west! ............

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This pic is wrong on so many levels!:rofl:

[sirhcyennek81]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c205/dznutz88/animatedgayssmall3rq.gif



Odd...I pictured the opposite...oh well. This picture is disturbing none the less.

:Broncos:

[Dukes]

My money says SD wins, but that's not gunna stop me from rooting for NE

[Negatively Charged]

Atlas:

Please tell me who that brunette is in your sig...Rowr.


Hi all. Charger fan here.

Everybody puts way too much emphasis on Marty and "choking". Marty will have little to do with the outcome of this game. First of all his decision-making will come down to things like throwing the red flag for play reviews, and whether or not to go for it on fourth down. Otherwise his job is to rally the troops and let Cam and Wade do their jobs, which they do exceedingly well.

I don't think this game will be close. The Chargers are a great home team - undefeated at home this year. True the Pats are 7-1 away from home, but trust me when I say we will make them burn their precious timeouts in the
2nd half because of the Qualcomm maelstrom. My ears are still ringing from the 1998 playoffs with the Padres/Braves. I can only imagine what it will be like this Sunday.

The Chargers are as good or better than the Pats at every position on the field from Kicker to QB. Rivers has put up numbers good enough to earn him a pro-bowl berth (yes his numbers are better than Brady's) despite lackluster WRs. Every team, including you guys, made Rivers beat you through the air. He did. This guy has been incredible in the way he has bounced back from his mistakes, and that is the quality that sets him apart from guys like Eli Manning (not saying much, I know), Romo, and other hot shot young QBs around the league. He has been in huge games before going back to NC state, and he has been MVP of a large majority of them.

I respect the Pats for what they've done in times past, but this Pats team is by far the weakest of any of those Patriot teams of the Superbowl years. They are missing a key cog in their D in our old buddy Rodney Harrison, and LT is licking his chops.

The team to beat here is the Ravens. I'm not nearly as confident against them. That's a story for another day.

As a side note: You guys have a complete stud at QB in Mr. Cutler. Keep your chins up. Shanahan did a good thing by getting that guy some game experience so he'll be ready for '07. That guy will terrorize teams/AFC West for the next ten years with that guy at the helm. After you address your RB issues, you will certainly be giving us a run for our money next year. Please don't take Mike Turner from us.

Peace! RIP Darrent Williams!

[ak1971]

Didnt see the rest of the thread but....NE wins hands down!!!

stay classy crowpointer

[Jens1893]

I think SD wins simply because they have more favorable matchups to exploit.

Pats will probably load up against LT, and Rivers will have a huge game.

Rivers is a "first year" (yes, I know he spent 2 years holding a clip board) QB making his first start in a playoff game. Belichick rattled Leftwich and Roethlisberger pretty hard when they were playing against Belichick in their first respectively second playoff game. I´m not ruling out that Rivers will be fine, but Belichick will have something up his sleeve for Rivers.

[Jens1893]

I hat ethe arrogant pats fans, I don't like Brady or Bilicheck, I also hate to see an AFC WEST team win it. Call it jealousy.. I don't like the fact that we have never seen a Charger fan up until 2 years ago now they are everywhere.

I'm going with tha Pats for the sole reason that Marty put $100 bounty on Bronco players when he was with the Chefs.

I believe it was more than that. Grunhard claimed Marty told the team not to worry about NFL fines before the 98 Divisional Game as he´d be paying for them with his own money.

[SportinOne]

Everybody puts way too much emphasis on Marty and "choking". Marty will have little to do with the outcome of this game.


Yeah, the head coach has nothing to do with anything, really. It's the quarterback who will call the plays should San Diego have a lead at any point in the second half.

[maher_tyler]

I don't know if you guys are aware of this or not, however there are a lot of obnoxious Patriots fans over at SignOnSanDiego forums spouting off about how they have Brady, Belichick, and they talk about all the recent superbowls they've won in the past, blah blah blah,...basically not one of them is giving SD a shot.

I, obviously, feel differently. However, I'd like to hear what non-biased fans have to say about the upcoming game.

Since your team has played both teams, who do you feel will win? What did you take away from the games as the strengths and weaknesses of both teams?

I think it'll be a close game...both teams have a shot...i'll take the Chargers by 7....31-24!!

[BABronco]

Chargers will win. Brady will eat alot of dirt. LT will run up and down the partiot D. You guys better kill the colts!

[Odysseus]

Chargers should pull it out over Patriots. Patriots are going to be tough because of their playoff experience, Brady and the east coast press bias.

I think Pats versus Colts game would be a great game but to have to pick one of these guys for SB champion. I would probably have to go for the Bears or Saints. (Seahawks isn't a gimme game for the Bears)

[freak6]

I'm gonna trust my instincts in this one and go with the Patriots.

They have great TEs, two stud RBs, and one of the <b>best clutch QBs EVER. </b>

Neal and Gates vs the LBs will be very important, and the safety help will probably be neccessary especially if the rookie LT McNiel starts eating up Seymour when the Charger run left.

<b>Brady should have success vs the Chargers 3-4 <b>by spreading the field, and probably going no huddle to give them the advantage to press the Chargers rather than vice versa. </b>

I think the Patriots advantages in the passing game, coaching, and intangibles will get them the W so long as they don't fumble/throw the game away as they did last year.

Well the Chargers pissed this game away, Marty didn't help matters with that idiotic challenge, but there is so much blame to go around it's out of control. I was pretty close with my predictions though.

[sirhcyennek81]

Atlas:

Please tell me who that brunette is in your sig...Rowr.


Hi all. Charger fan here.

Marty will have little to do with the outcome of this game.


This is amusing on alot of levels.


As a side note: You guys have a complete stud at QB in Mr. Cutler.
Correct.


Keep your chins up.

Umm...thanks?

Peace! RIP Darrent Williams!

Amen.





:Broncos: