Latest on Adrian Peterson**UPDATE**

[SoonerBronco]

from ouinsider.com...

Adrian is finally back in Norman and all indications are that he will meet with Coach Stoops on Wednesday. AD has decided to go pro and now it is just a matter of announcing the decision which will come either Thursday or Friday. I think it will be Friday, but it could very well come a day earlier.

When AD announces his decision he will head to Florida where he plans to train for the combine and his own pro workouts.

AD is expected to be the first running back taken in the draft, and he is expected to be a top five pick.

If Shanny wants Peterson, then it looks like it's gonna take a high pick...

[SureShot]

I would love to have him here, but I can't see a senario where we get in position to draft him.

[bpc]

I think he is an amazing player.

That being said I think Lynch will be a better player in the pro's. AP's running style is going to make his career a bright one filled with highlights, but a relatively short one.

[Garcia Bronco]

I think he's worthless...but that's just MO

[Master___Pain]

I think he is an amazing player.

That being said I think Lynch will be a better player in the pro's. AP's running style is going to make his career a bright one filled with highlights, but a relatively short one.

I tend to agree with this. Reminds me of a more talented Chris Brown in regard to running style.

[SoonerBronco]

I think he's worthless...but that's just MO

Hilarious!

I would love to hear your reasoning on that!

[bpc]

When you watch AP... man... what a tough runner. He runs the football like his hair is on fire... like somebody is trying to break into his house and harm his family. The problem like that is he doesn't understand the art of saving himself from play to play... he literally runs so hard, he is going to burn up his motor quickly. He is spinning, juking, stiff arming, head butting... just to pick up another foot! I love the tenacity he shows but combined with the fact that he runs this hard and with such an upright style, I just think his career will be a quick one unless he learns to conserve himself... which I cannot see him doing.

He would look amazing in Denver... and Denver's system could be one that saves him a lot of wear and tear on his body. He could hit 1700-1800yds easy in our system.

[titan]

AP reminds me of Billy Simms - I think he'll be a great pro IF he can stay healthy (he has had some injury issues at oklahoma)

[Natedog24]

I was lucky enough to see him in person when he came to Autzen and yeah, I think he would work great in Denver's system. My only complaint is all the punishment he took at Oklahoma, how long is he going to hold up in the NFL?

[CBF1]

Garcia.... you drinking Mocks private stash? Worthless is what we have playing that position for us now.

[bronco militia]

a top 5 pick?...what the hell is this guy smoking?

[Garcia Bronco]

You guys will see...I predict he'll be out of the league in 3 years...less than the average for his position. Minus any time he's on the bench from injury.

[NFLBRONCO]

It would take alot of ammo to go from 21 to 8 range to land yo adrian. I wonder how much punishment he can take or not.

[SoonerBronco]

a top 5 pick?...what the hell is this guy smoking?


The guy is James Hale...He knows his stuff and isn't going to give sources. He talks to the NFL scouts that comes through Norman, and I believe that from what he has gathered, that if Peterson is there when the Browns pick, they will take him.

Peterson is 6'2" about 225 pounds and runs a 4.35 40 time. He is often compared to Eric Dickerson. I don't know about his strength numbers (bench, vertical) but I know from talking with former players that he does plyometrics with 80 pound dumbells in his hands. Jerry Schimdt, OU's strength and conditioning coach calls him "the most physicall gifted athlete" he has ever worked with.

Everone here knows I am AD's biggest supporter and hope that he would have the chance to play for my favorite team, but I just don't see it happening. Of course, no one thought we'd be taking a QB in the first last year either...

[SoonerBronco]

You guys will see...I predict he'll be out of the league in 3 years...less than the average for his position. Minus any time he's on the bench from injury.

If he lands with a crappy team, I can see your point. If he lands with us, that scenario would be far less likely.

[Garcia Bronco]

If he lands with a crappy team, I can see your point. If he lands with us, that scenario would be far less likely.

Wasn't he injured last year too....his ribs...or was it his knee?

[Taco John]

Of course, no one thought we'd be taking a QB in the first last year either...


Not true. ;)

For what it's worth, I wouldn't be suprised to see us taking a RB in round one this year. I would just be suprised if it was AP. I think Lynch would be more probable.

I'm curious about both Michael Bush and Tony Hunt. You don't see a lot of 6-2, 6-3 runningbacks. The prospects of their height and field vision in our cut-back offense is intriguing to me.

[Traveler]

Not true. ;)

For what it's worth, I wouldn't be suprised to see us taking a RB in round one this year. I would just be suprised if it was AP. I think Lynch would be more probable.

I'm curious about both Michael Bush and Tony Hunt. You don't see a lot of 6-2, 6-3 runningbacks. The prospects of their height and field vision in our cut-back offense is intriguing to me.

Hunt is very underrated and would be a solid pick IMO. More of a chain mover and better suited to our offensive scheme.

[bpc]

Then again AP was the only weapon that the Sooners had for the past two years when they were breaking in repeated freshmen QB's. Anybody else would have wilted under the pressure... although AP had some tough number he kept that offense moving and the team winning. I give him a 10 on heart and playing for the team.

It would be nice to have 28 in Denver. He will just have to be coached up on saving himself. If anybody could do that, it would Coach Turner.

That being said, there are a lot of teams that see this guy as a 30 carry per game back. There are not too many of those guys coming out in the draft anymore.

There is no way AP makes it past GB at 16 or NYG at 20.

[SoonerBronco]

Wasn't he injured last year too....his ribs...or was it his knee?

High ancle sprain.

[Garcia Bronco]

High ancle sprain.

How many games did he miss...or was his role reduced?

[SoonerBronco]

Not true. ;)

For what it's worth, I wouldn't be suprised to see us taking a RB in round one this year. I would just be suprised if it was AP. I think Lynch would be more probable.

I'm curious about both Michael Bush and Tony Hunt. You don't see a lot of 6-2, 6-3 runningbacks. The prospects of their height and field vision in our cut-back offense is intriguing to me.

heh...you kill me taco...

After last year, I really think Shanny is moving up for a RB. Everyone is thinking D-line.

Any of those 3 (Peterson, Bush, or Hunt) would be an upgrade from what we have now.

[SoonerBronco]

How many games did he miss...or was his role reduced?

He tried to play in the Texas game, but couldn't cut. He sat out the next 4 games and came back against Nebraska. Ran for over 130 yrds and 2 TD's in that game.

[Garcia Bronco]

He tried to play in the Texas game, but couldn't cut. He sat out the next 4 games and came back against Nebraska. Ran for over 130 yrds and 2 TD's in that game.

So he has a history of injury and missing games. It'll only be tougher for him at the next level. I have him on my board in the 8th round. :D We should be able to get him then.

[SoonerBronco]

So he has a history of injury and missing games. It'll only be tougher for him at the next level. I have him on my board in the 8th round. :D We should be able to get him then.

:D We can only hope...

[Clockwork Orange]

People need to forget Peterson, there's no way to get him because the Broncos aren't going to be able to trade up from 21 into the top 5 where he's most likely to go. It just doesn't happen.

Lynch or Bush will be the guy if they go RB in round 1.

[plummershelper]

Is Hunt really that good? The times I saw him he looked very tentative to the hole and lacked burst. I thought he would maybe be a 3rd rounder.

[NFLBRONCO]

heh...you kill me taco...

After last year, I really think Shanny is moving up for a RB. Everyone is thinking D-line.

Any of those 3 (Peterson, Bush, or Hunt) would be an upgrade from what we have now.


I'd be open to trade up for a RB if that's what Denver decides on doing. As far of what I prefer if we trade up I'd want DL addressed most of all though.

[SoonerBronco]

People need to forget Peterson, there's no way to get him because the Broncos aren't going to be able to trade up from 21 into the top 5 where he's most likely to go. It just doesn't happen.

Lynch or Bush will be the guy if they go RB in round 1.

The only thing that's for sure is that nothing's for sure. C'mon folks unless you are the all knowing Orangemane Mastermind (Taco) then none of us know what Shanny has planned. The NFL draft is like the world's largest poker tournament and everyone is holding thier cards.

[NFLBRONCO]

The only thing that's for sure is that nothing's for sure. C'mon folks unless you are the all knowing Orangemane Mastermind (Taco) then none of us know what Shanny has planned. The NFL draft is like the world's largest poker tournament and everyone is holding thier cards.

I'm going into the draft thinking we will make a trade week before draft to move to 11-13 area. Look out on draft day :).

[SoonerBronco]

I'm going into the draft thinking we will make a trade week before draft to move to 11-13 area. Look out on draft day :).

I think you and I are in the same boat.:wiggle:

[epicSocialism4tw]

The guy is James Hale...He knows his stuff and isn't going to give sources. He talks to the NFL scouts that comes through Norman, and I believe that from what he has gathered, that if Peterson is there when the Browns pick, they will take him.

Peterson is 6'2" about 225 pounds and runs a 4.35 40 time. He is often compared to Eric Dickerson. I don't know about his strength numbers (bench, vertical) but I know from talking with former players that he does plyometrics with 80 pound dumbells in his hands. Jerry Schimdt, OU's strength and conditioning coach calls him "the most physicall gifted athlete" he has ever worked with.

Everone here knows I am AD's biggest supporter and hope that he would have the chance to play for my favorite team, but I just don't see it happening. Of course, no one thought we'd be taking a QB in the first last year either...


Once Peterson gets measured at the combine, he'll generate buzz as a possible #1 pick. There are rare players with unbelievable measureables that come through once in a decade, and Peterson is one of those guys. When you look at his commitment, leadership abilities, coachability, and raw athletic talent, you come away impressed. There hasnt been a back taken with his level of accomplishment and ceiling in a long time.

I dont think that he'll last past #3. It's very possible that he goes #1.

[NFLBRONCO]

I think you and I are in the same boat.:wiggle:


Honestly if we waited to do a JA deal come draft day vs the week before I'm sure it wouldn't have been as cheap as it was. So imo if Denver does want a major player the time to move is before draft to be in position to grab a solid player or if the price is not bad another move up.

[Clockwork Orange]

The only thing that's for sure is that nothing's for sure. C'mon folks unless you are the all knowing Orangemane Mastermind (Taco) then none of us know what Shanny has planned. The NFL draft is like the world's largest poker tournament and everyone is holding thier cards.

Tell me, when was the last time a team traded from the early 20's into the top 5?

[elsid13]

Is Hunt really that good? The times I saw him he looked very tentative to the hole and lacked burst. I thought he would maybe be a 3rd rounder.

He solid player, but he isn't a first round talent. And somewhere in the 3rd is good bet where he will go.

[SoonerBronco]

Tell me, when was the last time a team traded from the early 20's into the top 5?

What do I look like? A walking stats book? Look it up yourself! Point is, there more than one way to skin a cat...if Shanahan wants something he has the authority to do what he needs to get it. That's all I'm saying. I don't need a precident to tell me what can and can't be done.

[Inkana7]

Consider me on the Michael Bush bandwagon.

[NFLBRONCO]

Adrian Peterson, running back, Oklahoma – The junior returned from a collarbone injury, but outside of his long touchdown in overtime, he did not dominate the Fiesta Bowl as he did in previous contests during his career. He got off to a bit of a slow start against Boise State but seemed to warm up in the second half, using his punishing style to shake off several Broncos defenders. Peterson has yet to make his final decision public, but he is expected to declare sometime next week. Scouts have concerns about his durability, and even though he has made some plays as a receiver, he does not have great natural hands out of the backfield.

[Taco John]

The only thing that's for sure is that nothing's for sure. C'mon folks unless you are the all knowing Orangemane Mastermind (Taco) then none of us know what Shanny has planned. The NFL draft is like the world's largest poker tournament and everyone is holding thier cards.

Man, I understand that you have high hopes for Adrian Peterson, but it doesn't take a mastermind to know that the odds of us sacrificing what it would take to move up to the top 5 and take him are pretty astronomical. There's just no precedent for it. We moved up, what? Two spots for Cutler? And we still had to give up a lot. Moving up to a top 5 spot from 21 just isn't that realistic.

[SoonerBronco]

Adrian Peterson, running back, Oklahoma – The junior returned from a collarbone injury, but outside of his long touchdown in overtime, he did not dominate the Fiesta Bowl as he did in previous contests during his career. He got off to a bit of a slow start against Boise State but seemed to warm up in the second half, using his punishing style to shake off several Broncos defenders. Peterson has yet to make his final decision public, but he is expected to declare sometime next week. Scouts have concerns about his durability, and even though he has made some plays as a receiver, he does not have great natural hands out of the backfield.

Sounds about right, although, I wouldn't hold it against him about the Fiesta Bowl. It was his first action in over 2 months. He tends to start slow and wear a defense out. I think our poor QB play had more to do with his lack of production.

[NFLBRONCO]

Man, I understand that you have high hopes for Adrian Peterson, but it doesn't take a mastermind to know that the odds of us sacrificing what it would take to move up to the top 5 and take him are pretty astronomical. There's just no precedent for it. We moved up, what? Two spots for Cutler? And we still had to give up a lot. Moving up to a top 5 spot from 21 just isn't that realistic.

Do you see AP a top 5 pick TJ? I think Lynch will go before AP.

[Taco John]

Do you see AP a top 5 pick TJ? I think Lynch will go before AP.

Currently, yes, I do. But wierd things happen during draft season, so who knows where he'll eventually go. I think he's the most attractive eye candy among runningbacks in this draft, and if he doesn't go top 5 I'll be suprised. If he doesn't go top 10, I'll be utterly floored.

[Clockwork Orange]

Man, I understand that you have high hopes for Adrian Peterson, but it doesn't take a mastermind to know that the odds of us sacrificing what it would take to move up to the top 5 and take him are pretty astronomical. There's just no precedent for it. We moved up, what? Two spots for Cutler? And we still had to give up a lot. Moving up to a top 5 spot from 21 just isn't that realistic.

They moved up 4 spots for Cutler.

[footstepsfrom#27]

Do you see AP a top 5 pick TJ? I think Lynch will go before AP.
Adrian Peterson is a potential 2,000 yard back in Denver. He's the next Larry Johnson or Sean Alexander. I'll be shocked if he slips below #5. The only way we could get him is to trade the #21 pick this year, plus our 2nd rounder and a #1 next year as well. Shanahan won't do that. Lynch is a decent back but he's not in Peterson's class. Bush might turn out to be...I'm not sure.

[Taco John]

They moved up 4 spots for Cutler.

I was calculating by square roots... :dummy:

[SoonerBronco]

Man, I understand that you have high hopes for Adrian Peterson, but it doesn't take a mastermind to know that the odds of us sacrificing what it would take to move up to the top 5 and take him are pretty astronomical. There's just no precedent for it. We moved up, what? Two spots for Cutler? And we still had to give up a lot. Moving up to a top 5 spot from 21 just isn't that realistic.

We moved up from 22 to 11 for Culter and what did we end up really losing? A first and a 3rd?

I don't think it will happen all in one fail swoop guys. I think we'll creep up the board again this year. AND, I have no clue what Shanahan wants. Just a disclaimer...

Taco probably knows though...:wave:

[Clockwork Orange]

What do I look like? A walking stats book? Look it up yourself! Point is, there more than one way to skin a cat...if Shanahan wants something he has the authority to do what he needs to get it. That's all I'm saying. I don't need a precident to tell me what can and can't be done.

The point is that it doesn't happen.

That's not to say that it couldn't happen. It would just take a trade of Herschel Walker proportions to get it done. I know you like the guy, but Peterson isn't worth all that.

[footstepsfrom#27]

The point is that it doesn't happen.

That's not to say that it couldn't happen. It would just take a trade of Herschel Walker proportions to get it done. I know you like the guy, but Peterson isn't worth all that.
Much as I'd be in favor of doing whatever it takes to get AP, every time I think of sacrificing all that I close my eyes and all I can see is Georgina Foster waving at some defensive end with blood in his eyes as he closes on an unsuspecting Jay Cutler. Round 1 needs to be a stud OT that can pass block if there's one there. We could go D-line or RB in round 2 but one way or the other we MUST fix the pass protection before we do anything else.

[SoonerBronco]

The point is that it doesn't happen.

That's not to say that it couldn't happen. It would just take a trade of Herschel Walker proportions to get it done. I know you like the guy, but Peterson isn't worth all that.


Point taken. I just don't agree that it would take a Herschel type trade. I think we could get it done with less. Everyone seems to forget that Shanny tried to get up to six last year. And if SF hadn't been enamoured with Vernon Davis, he probably would have. Shanny's a pretty craft guy (like taco :D ) I think he, if anyone could get it done.

[Maximus]

You guys will see...I predict he'll be out of the league in 3 years...less than the average for his position. Minus any time he's on the bench from injury.


You should be really happy then... Cause the Raiders will probably trade down a few spots and pick him.

[footstepsfrom#27]

Point taken. I just don't agree that it would take a Herschel type trade. I think we could get it done with less. Everyone seems to forget that Shanny tried to get up to six last year. And if SF hadn't been enamoured with Vernon Davis, he probably would have. Shanny's a pretty craft guy (like taco :D ) I think he, if anyone could get it done.
Question: would you rather trade up into another 1st rounder and get two stud OT's for the O-line to protect Jay or get a runner? There's no garauntee Lepsis comes back and right now we have the weakest pair of offensive tackles in the NFL...fix the O-line first and then we go get a runner.

[GonzoLays]

Once Peterson gets measured at the combine, he'll generate buzz as a possible #1 pick. There are rare players with unbelievable measureables that come through once in a decade, and Peterson is one of those guys. When you look at his commitment, leadership abilities, coachability, and raw athletic talent, you come away impressed. There hasnt been a back taken with his level of accomplishment and ceiling in a long time.

I dont think that he'll last past #3. It's very possible that he goes #1.

Whoa! Slow down, kid. All this hyperbole is making you look irrational again.

Peterson only rushed for a combined 2100 yards his past two season in while being perpetually injured during his career. If the Peterson cannot stay healthy playing pee wee league football in the Big 12, how is he expected to make it through a 16 game schedule with the big boys?

Adrian Peterson is great running back, but you are making him out to be something he isn't. You are going to hear a lot of things about Adrian Peterson leading up to the draft, and "soft" is going to be the most prevalent.

History has shown that players who were constantly injured in college are usually constantly injured in the pros. Why should Adrian Peterson be any different?

[epicSocialism4tw]

Whoa! Slow down, kid. All this hyperbole is making you look irrational again.

Peterson only rushed for a combined 2100 yards his past two season in while being perpetually injured during his career. If the Peterson cannot stay healthy playing pee wee league football in the Big 12, how is he expected to make it through a 16 game schedule with the big boys?

Adrian Peterson is great running back, but you are making him out to be something he isn't. You are going to hear a lot of things about Adrian Peterson leading up to the draft, and "soft" is going to be the most prevalent.

History has shown that players who were constantly injured in college are usually constantly injured in the pros. Why should Adrian Peterson be any different?


It looks like someone doesnt know what they are talking about.

"Soft"? Are you kidding me?

[GonzoLays]

It looks like someone doesnt know what they are talking about.

"Soft"? Are you kidding me?

How about brittle? Does that work for you?

[epicSocialism4tw]

How about brittle? Does that work for you?

That is more appropriate.

Here's this if you need it: www.dictionary.com

[GonzoLays]

That is more appropriate.

Here's this if you need it: www.dictionary.com

So you agree that he is frail? How does being soft equal out to be a top three pick? That doesn't make sense.

[footstepsfrom#27]

So you agree that he is frail? How does being soft equal out to be a top three pick? That doesn't make sense.
1925 yards rushing as a freshman might have something to do with it. He was a one man team the last two years and got hurt. But if you think a 6'2", 230 pound runner with 4.35 speed won't go very high in the draft your nuts. I'd gladly trade the house for the kid if we didn't have so many other holes.

[GonzoLays]

1925 yards rushing as a freshman might have something to do with it. He was a one man team the last two years and got hurt. But if you think a 6'2", 230 pound runner with 4.35 speed won't go very high in the draft your nuts. I'd gladly trade the house for the kid if we didn't have so many other holes.

I'm not saying all that. But to think that a guy who can't even stay healthy on the college level is going to come into a league in which the game is twice as physical and stay healthy is quite a stretch. Surely his much bemoaned upright running style has teams worried about investing a guaranteed 20 million dollars into a guy who has missed nearly half his games the past two seasons.

Adrian Peterson could be the greatest running buck in the history of this planet for all I know, but he ain't going to do much damage from the sidelines, you dig. He's fragile. Great athlete, just frail. What can you do?

[Steve Sewell]

Hilarious!

I would love to hear your reasoning on that!

Because he didn't go to Virginia Tech.

Regards,

GarciaBronco

[ozomulsion]

You guys will see...I predict he'll be out of the league in 3 years...less than the average for his position. Minus any time he's on the bench from injury.

Runs just like Dickerson. Boy he had a sh!tty career. Your posts amaze me sometimes. Your head is as hard as a bowling ball, I know you'll stick by your guns.

[RunByDesign]

I would love to have him here, but I can't see a senario where we get in position to draft him.

Uh...Tatum, Jake and our first round pick.

[cutthemdown]

I would love to have him here, but I can't see a senario where we get in position to draft him.

Give yourself a few more weeks of no Bronco football. Then you will be able to imagine everything just out of pure desperation for football.

[cutthemdown]

Uh...Tatum, Jake and our first round pick.

You're not serious. You won't get a pile of coal for Plummer. Tinker Bell worth maybe a 4th or 5th at best. It will take more then that to jump to the 5th spot in 1st round. Someone break out the trade value chart and see what the point value would be.

[DBroncos4life]

I'd love to land Peterson but I would settle for some Bush or another Lynch.

[epicSocialism4tw]

1925 yards rushing as a freshman might have something to do with it. He was a one man team the last two years and got hurt. But if you think a 6'2", 230 pound runner with 4.35 speed won't go very high in the draft your nuts. I'd gladly trade the house for the kid if we didn't have so many other holes.

If you have followed Peterson for the length of his career, the eye-popping talent is apparent all over the place. For the last two years, Peterson has been running against 8 or 9 players in the box. I think that Stoops' commitment to giving him the ball as many times as possible during that period led to the injuries.

His injuries have been ankle injuries and a clavicle break. The ankle injuries come from players resorting to tackling him at the ankles because of the way he runs. The clavicle injury was an unfortunate accident.

When Peterson shows his athleticism and power in the weight room, followed by the show that he puts on in the 40 and foot speed/control drills and his other measureable athletics, NFL scouts will begin their collective drooling. The kid is simply an athletic freak.

[fontaine]

One of the reasons why I love Bobby Turner is that he doesn't get caught up with pre draft hype and work out numbers.

Every year draft experts trip over themselves to over hype size/speed/numbers RBs and declare him/them the next LT, TD, and Eric Dickerson rolled into one, or a once in a decade talent blah blah blah, while guys picked much later and out of the 1st like Frank Gore, Portis, Maurice Jones Drew, Willie Parker, Mike Bell, Micheal Turner, Domanick Davis, Onterrio Smith, Brian WestBrook, Rudi Johnson, Rueben Droughns, Mike Anderson, Ahman Green, Priest Holmes, TD etc etc just go about churning out 1000 yards seasons.

These are probably the same folks who decided William Green and TJ Duckett were far better prospects than Clinton Portis because they were bigger and could run just as fast.

:rofl:

[SoonerBronco]

I'm not saying all that. But to think that a guy who can't even stay healthy on the college level is going to come into a league in which the game is twice as physical and stay healthy is quite a stretch. Surely his much bemoaned upright running style has teams worried about investing a guaranteed 20 million dollars into a guy who has missed nearly half his games the past two seasons.

Adrian Peterson could be the greatest running buck in the history of this planet for all I know, but he ain't going to do much damage from the sidelines, you dig. He's fragile. Great athlete, just frail. What can you do?

And I'm sure you've watched every one of his carries over his college career...You are completely showing your stupidity. I think llama illustrated it best in his post. A guy falls on his ancle causing injury one, and he breaks his collar bone for freak injury two. I'm sorry, but if you played football long enough, you'll sprian an ancle. Collar bone breaks usually heal stronger than before and are a freak thing. So, your definition of frail does not apply to Peterson, it does most certainly apply to your knowledge of football which is evidenced by the number of people who have you on "ignore" on this board.

[Rohirrim]

One of the reasons why I love Bobby Turner is that he doesn't get caught up with pre draft hype and work out numbers.

Every year draft experts trip over themselves to over hype size/speed/numbers RBs and declare him/them the next LT, TD, and Eric Dickerson rolled into one, or a once in a decade talent blah blah blah, while guys picked much later and out of the 1st like Frank Gore, Portis, Maurice Jones Drew, Willie Parker, Mike Bell, Micheal Turner, Domanick Davis, Onterrio Smith, Brian WestBrook, Rudi Johnson, Rueben Droughns, Mike Anderson, Ahman Green, Priest Holmes, TD etc etc just go about churning out 1000 yards seasons.

These are probably the same folks who decided William Green and TJ Duckett were far better prospects than Clinton Portis because they were bigger and could run just as fast.

:rofl:

Hear! Hear! :thumbsup:

[footstepsfrom#27]

One of the reasons why I love Bobby Turner is that he doesn't get caught up with pre draft hype and work out numbers.

Every year draft experts trip over themselves to over hype size/speed/numbers RBs and declare him/them the next LT, TD, and Eric Dickerson rolled into one, or a once in a decade talent blah blah blah, while guys picked much later and out of the 1st like Frank Gore, Portis, Maurice Jones Drew, Willie Parker, Mike Bell, Micheal Turner, Domanick Davis, Onterrio Smith, Brian WestBrook, Rudi Johnson, Rueben Droughns, Mike Anderson, Ahman Green, Priest Holmes, TD etc etc just go about churning out 1000 yards seasons.

These are probably the same folks who decided William Green and TJ Duckett were far better prospects than Clinton Portis because they were bigger and could run just as fast.

:rofl:
Bobby Turner would wet his pants if we drafted Adrian Peterson.

[TheChamp24]

A lot of people like to say Peterson is injury prone, when this past year, he had a freak accident when he landed wrong on a dive to the end zone that broke his collarbone. Kinda like Trent Green's injury, or Rex Grossman's injury last year.

[fontaine]

Bobby Turner would wet his pants if we drafted Adrian Peterson.

Nah, you've got it the wrong way around. Turner's commanded guys like TD, and Portis.

It would Adrian Peterson who would wet his pants if he was drafted by Denver!

Ha!

[BroncoMan4ever]

i would love to land either Peterson, or preferably Michael Bush, i am tired of seeing Tatum getting destroyed at the line of scrimmage and being completely worthless in the red zone, i want a big back who will knock the crap out of a defense and i think Bush(if his leg is completely healed) is the best option

[SoonerBronco]

(OU Sports Information)


Oklahoma running back Adrian Peterson issued the following statement today …

“I have spent the last few days considering my options to either enter the NFL Draft or stay at OU. The facts are that I have not hired any representation and I have not declared for the draft. My meetings with Coach Stoops and my parents have been to discuss all the scenarios. I see a lot of options in both so I am still undecided on what I want to do. I wish people would give me the opportunity to decide. Once I do, I will make an announcement at the right time. Any reports that are different than that are false.”

Well, all this discussion might be unwarranted...

[Requiem]

We have no shot at Peterson, so all the OU homers can go back into their holes. KTHNX.

[SoonerBronco]

We have no shot at Peterson, so all the OU homers can go back into their holes. KTHNX.

Thanks for your uniformed response...you have added aboslutely nothing to this discussion... KTHNX

[epicSocialism4tw]

(OU Sports Information)
Oklahoma running back Adrian Peterson issued the following statement today …“I have spent the last few days considering my options to either enter the NFL Draft or stay at OU. The facts are that I have not hired any representation and I have not declared for the draft. My meetings with Coach Stoops and my parents have been to discuss all the scenarios. I see a lot of options in both so I am still undecided on what I want to do. I wish people would give me the opportunity to decide. Once I do, I will make an announcement at the right time. Any reports that are different than that are false.”
Well, all this discussion might be unwarranted...

I would love it if AD would stay for one more season. However, I dont see him doing so. He's been an inevitable top-ten pick since his freshman season.

[Barry Ramey]

I don't agree that Peterson is injury prone. As others have pointed out, he has a freak injury that could happen to anyone and it happened after he scored a TD by the way on a great run. I can't believe he'd be there when the Broncos pick, but if he was, they'd have to take him and I'm sure they would.

I'm just not sold on Michael Bush. He's almost too big and makes a big target. He's someone I worry about having a long career.

No way the Broncos are going to get anything for Plummer in a trade other than maybe a 7th round pick and I doubt that even happens. Teams will just wait until they release him.

I'm hoping they can get a 3rd rounder for Tatum. Him getting 1,000 yards might fetch a 3rd rounder since that's what the Bills got for Travis Henry a couple years ago.

[epicSocialism4tw]

We have no shot at Peterson, so all the OU homers can go back into their holes. KTHNX.

go away

[Northman]

I would love it if AD would stay for one more season. However, I dont see him doing so. He's been an inevitable top-ten pick since his freshman season.

I think he'll bolt too. Generally when a player gets a injury where it costs him a few games they start to panic a bit of losing ground in the draft. Luckily for him he rebounded for a nice bowl game and most likely keep building his strength up for the combine if he goes that route.

[epicSocialism4tw]

I think he'll bolt too. Generally when a player gets a injury where it costs him a few games they start to panic a bit of losing ground in the draft. Luckily for him he rebounded for a nice bowl game and most likely keep building his strength up for the combine if he goes that route.

His stock will rise at the combine. He and his handlers know that. I wouldnt expect him to fall out of the top 3. Had he gone without the clavicle fracture, he would have been an undisputed #1 pick. His ceiling is so high that someone up there will snag him for the simple fact that he's one of those players that can turn a franchise around. He's this season's Vince Young.

[SoonerBronco]

He's this season's Vince Young.

There's only one Adrian Peterson! ;)

[epicSocialism4tw]

There's only one Adrian Peterson! ;)

True dat.

AD is unbelievable.

[bronco militia]

http://www.nmnathletics.com.edgesuite.net/fls/9900/headers/boise_header_home.jpg

go broncos!!
Ha!

:clown:

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

[QUOTE=Barry Ramey;1439615]I don't agree that Peterson is injury prone. As others have pointed out, he has a freak injury that could happen to anyone and it happened after he scored a TD by the way on a great run. I can't believe he'd be there when the Broncos pick, but if he was, they'd have to take him and I'm sure they would.

I'm just not sold on Michael Bush. He's almost too big and makes a big target. He's someone I worry about having a long career.

QUOTE]

Peterson is taller than Bush. Peterson runs upright and takes shots to his core. Bush runs low and takes the shots on his pads.

[Requiem]

I don't care if you like what I had to say or not, there's no way we get Peterson and I wouldn't even want Peterson. I'm sorry that you Sooner homers have such a hardon for him, but I don't. There's no chance we draft the kid, and that's all that needs to be said. Sorry if that made you lose your boner for him.

[epicSocialism4tw]

[QUOTE=Barry Ramey;1439615]I don't agree that Peterson is injury prone. As others have pointed out, he has a freak injury that could happen to anyone and it happened after he scored a TD by the way on a great run. I can't believe he'd be there when the Broncos pick, but if he was, they'd have to take him and I'm sure they would.

I'm just not sold on Michael Bush. He's almost too big and makes a big target. He's someone I worry about having a long career.

QUOTE]

Peterson is taller than Bush. Peterson runs upright and takes shots to his core. Bush runs low and takes the shots on his pads.


Peterson takes shots to his lower legs. It's pretty much useless to tackle him at his body. He'll buck you off. Watch some tape...the secondary guys are coached to go for the knees/ankles.

[epicSocialism4tw]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=AmFM8MepDjE

[epicSocialism4tw]

I don't care if you like what I had to say or not, there's no way we get Peterson and I wouldn't even want Peterson. I'm sorry that you Sooner homers have such a hardon for him, but I don't. There's no chance we draft the kid, and that's all that needs to be said. Sorry if that made you lose your boner for him.

No one is saying that Denver has a chance.

[Garcia Bronco]

Peterson's resume in college indicates that he is injury prone. There is no way around it.

[SoonerBronco]

I don't care if you like what I had to say or not, there's no way we get Peterson and I wouldn't even want Peterson. I'm sorry that you Sooner homers have such a hardon for him, but I don't. There's no chance we draft the kid, and that's all that needs to be said. Sorry if that made you lose your boner for him.

I find it humorous that you continue to talk about "hard ons" and "boners".

Lends to your cred...

[SoonerBronco]

No one is saying that Denver has a chance.


Actually I was...but it's a slim one.

I am amused by the total lack of knowledge that folks have on Adrian Peterson. In the highlight film llama posted, I don't know how many times he lowered his shoulders to deliver the blow, or get the extra yards. Once again, the board Masterminds come out to spew their takes and have no respect for anyone elses.

I guess I should feel enlightened that all these guys know so much more on this subject than anyone else, it makes my sticker peck out...(like that one Requiem?) That must mean that you have A) Attended more OU games than I have in the last 3 years, and B) watched more of thier games.

I would wager that their is only one person on this board that has and GUESS WHAT? He has the same opinion I do. He just doesn't seem to get as razzled by the Omane masterminds.

[TheChamp24]

I've seen AD play, since I go to OU currently, and the guy simply amazes me. He may have an OK first half, but in the 2nd half, he would run for 150 yards and a couple scores. He took over as the game went along.
Plus he has amazing speed, power and agility for a RB. He will be a good pro.

[usedupbraids]

what number would we have in the draft i hope its in the 20s

[crush17]

His stock will rise at the combine. He and his handlers know that. I wouldnt expect him to fall out of the top 3. Had he gone without the clavicle fracture, he would have been an undisputed #1 pick. His ceiling is so high that someone up there will snag him for the simple fact that he's one of those players that can turn a franchise around. He's this season's Vince Young.


Jesus dude talk about a man-crush.

Maybe you could have his kids or something.

Seriously you sound like you've got his you know what in your mouth.

lol

[SoonerBronco]

Jesus dude talk about a man-crush.

Maybe you could have his kids or something.

Seriously you sound like you've got his you know what in your mouth.

lol

You guys have made this thread very ghey...

[TheDave]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=AmFM8MepDjE

Nice video... kid definately has skills a couple of observations though:

1) he better ditch that spin move or atleast cut back the amount used. Easy way to get your self killed in the pros is to turn you back to the defense.

2) 4.35 speed... STOP THAT. He might have broken off a sub 4.4 once on astroturf, but he is no where near that fast with pads on. Just my opinion but i bet Tatum is faster than he is. I've seen tatum blow by pro corners that had the angle on him. AP was caught from behind by guys that will never play footbal on Sundays.

None the less baring injury he should be a hell of a player

[GonzoLays]

And I'm sure you've watched every one of his carries over his college career...You are completely showing your stupidity. I think llama illustrated it best in his post. A guy falls on his ancle causing injury one, and he breaks his collar bone for freak injury two. I'm sorry, but if you played football long enough, you'll sprian an ancle. Collar bone breaks usually heal stronger than before and are a freak thing. So, your definition of frail does not apply to Peterson, it does most certainly apply to your knowledge of football which is evidenced by the number of people who have you on "ignore" on this board.

Hahaha, when is an injury NOT a 'freak injury?' Are they ever expected? When Olandis Gary tore his acl, was that not a 'freak injury?' Do guys go into games saying, "Yeeeaaaa, doooooog, It's lookin' like I might twist an ankle tonight, BABY!" Let's be real here...Either you are frail or not. No two ways about it.

And secondly, I'm not the only who considers Peterson "soft/frail/brittle."

I present to you, Mel Kiper take:
*6. Adrian Peterson, RB, Oklahoma (6-1½, 218) | previous: UR
Talented RB with an excellent burst to the outside for a back his size. The concern is durability.

Haha, I guess you should write Mel and tell him how 'ignorant' he is about the Cal Ripken Jr. of college football.

Slow your roll, kid! It's gonna be alright, I swear it is.

[Requiem]

Actually I was...but it's a slim one.

I am amused by the total lack of knowledge that folks have on Adrian Peterson. In the highlight film llama posted, I don't know how many times he lowered his shoulders to deliver the blow, or get the extra yards. Once again, the board Masterminds come out to spew their takes and have no respect for anyone elses.

I guess I should feel enlightened that all these guys know so much more on this subject than anyone else, it makes my sticker peck out...(like that one Requiem?) That must mean that you have A) Attended more OU games than I have in the last 3 years, and B) watched more of thier games.

I would wager that their is only one person on this board that has and GUESS WHAT? He has the same opinion I do. He just doesn't seem to get as razzled by the Omane masterminds.


There isn't a lack of knowledge on Adrian Peterson, the critiques and the criticisms he's been given in this thread have been given by numerous people in the scouting community. He has flaws, regardless if you like to believe it or not. There's no perfect player. The fact is that his past injuries are a concern, as well as him running upright. Just because a highlight film shows his good runs and correct running form does not mean he doesn't run upright. He does. It's one of the biggest concerns with Peterson coming out of college.

You can have your opinion if you want, but nobody really cares about the current "Adrian Peterson" talk, or how hard you have a stiffy for him. He'll be coming out, and I don't really think it was a surprise. I think everyone on this board acknowledges on paper and from what they've seen he looks to be a very talented running back; however most realize that the reality is that Denver has no shot at drafting him. Denver doesn't have a snowball's chance in Hell at getting him. There's no conceivable way that you can even begin to give Denver a chance to get into the top ten, probably top eight and select him. Unless, you're in favor of sending all of our draft day selections this year to do so. If so, you would definitely deserve the moniker of moron.

I think the big thing that bothers people is when fans of respective college teams pimp up their players and just because the Broncos are your favorite team; you want them to draft that particular person. It's annoying.

Florida State's my favorite college team, but do I want them to draft Lorenzo Booker? **** no.

Maybe people would care and wouldn't be so critical if you actually made an effort to give us an analysis (non-biased) of Adrian Peterson's strengths and his weaknesses, and not just showing how much of a homer you are. Maybe then, people will be interested.

The fact is, and it'll hold true come draft day, that the Broncos never had a shot at getting him, and he won't be sporting Orange and Blue. Now, just because that's fact doesn't mean you can't talk about him, but hell - does it really need to be a circle jerk?

[Paladin]

Well, you never know. You just never know.......

[epicSocialism4tw]

There isn't a lack of knowledge on Adrian Peterson, the critiques and the criticisms he's been given in this thread have been given by numerous people in the scouting community. He has flaws, regardless if you like to believe it or not. There's no perfect player. The fact is that his past injuries are a concern, as well as him running upright. Just because a highlight film shows his good runs and correct running form does not mean he doesn't run upright. He does. It's one of the biggest concerns with Peterson coming out of college.

You can have your opinion if you want, but nobody really cares about the current "Adrian Peterson" talk, or how hard you have a stiffy for him. He'll be coming out, and I don't really think it was a surprise. I think everyone on this board acknowledges on paper and from what they've seen he looks to be a very talented running back; however most realize that the reality is that Denver has no shot at drafting him. Denver doesn't have a snowball's chance in Hell at getting him. There's no conceivable way that you can even begin to give Denver a chance to get into the top ten, probably top eight and select him. Unless, you're in favor of sending all of our draft day selections this year to do so. If so, you would definitely deserve the moniker of moron.

I think the big thing that bothers people is when fans of respective college teams pimp up their players and just because the Broncos are your favorite team; you want them to draft that particular person. It's annoying.

Florida State's my favorite college team, but do I want them to draft Lorenzo Booker? **** no.

Maybe people would care and wouldn't be so critical if you actually made an effort to give us an analysis (non-biased) of Adrian Peterson's strengths and his weaknesses, and not just showing how much of a homer you are. Maybe then, people will be interested.

The fact is, and it'll hold true come draft day, that the Broncos never had a shot at getting him, and he won't be sporting Orange and Blue. Now, just because that's fact doesn't mean you can't talk about him, but hell - does it really need to be a circle jerk?


Get over yourself, son. Nobody gives a rip about your "balanced" analysis.

[Crushaholic]

I think there will be a RB taken in the Top 5, but he will be another Bush. I predict the media will be hyping Michael Bush before the draft and some RB-deficient team will agree. Adrian might be a Top 15 pick, but I don't see him as Top 5 with his injury problems. He's going to have to really turn heads in the bowls/combines, IMO...

[Requiem]

Get over yourself, son. Nobody gives a rip about your "balanced" analysis.

If you didn't give a **** you wouldn't have bothered to respond. If you guys want to play Ookie Cookie over Adrian Peterson, be my guest; but at least back-up some of your opinions and hard-ons with some actual input rather than sending us a link to a "highlight" video of him.

[epicSocialism4tw]

If you didn't give a **** you wouldn't have bothered to respond. If you guys want to play Ookie Cookie over Adrian Peterson, be my guest; but at least back-up some of your opinions and hard-ons with some actual input rather than sending us a link to a "highlight" video of him.

My "scouting report" of Peterson is all over this website. You can find it if you would like. Go badger someone else, kid.

[Requiem]

My "scouting report" of Peterson is all over this website. You can find it if you would like. Go badger someone else, kid.

You're sure a tough guy, you gotta love those 30-some year old adults who act hard-nosed on the internet. Hilarious!

[GonzoLays]

There isn't a lack of knowledge on Adrian Peterson, the critiques and the criticisms he's been given in this thread have been given by numerous people in the scouting community.

I love how you consider yourself to be a "member of the scouting community." You do a lot of scouting from North Dakota? HAHAHA

My favorite quote of yours was about renowned draft guru and member of the football writers association, Scott Wright. You said, "Yea, Scott does a pretty good job. I do not agree with a lot of his assessments and I let him know that, but overall, he does okay." Who the **** are you to say that to a guy who owns most the popular draft site on the net? You kill me. "I don't agree with a lot of assessments.." HAHAHAHAHAH

[SoonerBronco]

You're sure a tough guy, you gotta love those 30-some year old adults who act hard-nosed on the internet. Hilarious!

Funny, I always pegged you as some 21 year old know-it-all holed up in the Dakotahs with your dial up connection in your mother's basement, looking at porn(and from all your phalic refereneces, I'm now positive it is ghey porn) and reading the reports of all your favorite sports writers and thus cramming your "unbiased" views anywhere you can type them.

Get over yourself. This discussion was just that, a discussion until you chimed in with your dick references and "unbiased" views of AD and Sooner fans who can "go back to their holes".

No son, unfortunately for you, we started this tread to talk about Adrian Peterson and we will continue for as long as people like. Until this dies please go spew your stupidity on another thread.

[SoonerBronco]

If you didn't give a **** you wouldn't have bothered to respond. If you guys want to play Ookie Cookie over Adrian Peterson, be my guest; but at least back-up some of your opinions and hard-ons with some actual input rather than sending us a link to a "highlight" video of him.

Okay Einstien, so showing what he can do by means of videoing his exploits on the field is not "backing up" our take???

Keep typing, you make yourself look more like boob everytime you do....Hilarious!

[SoonerBronco]

Hahaha, when is an injury NOT a 'freak injury?' Are they ever expected? When Olandis Gary tore his acl, was that not a 'freak injury?' Do guys go into games saying, "Yeeeaaaa, doooooog, It's lookin' like I might twist an ankle tonight, BABY!" Let's be real here...Either you are frail or not. No two ways about it.

And secondly, I'm not the only who considers Peterson "soft/frail/brittle."

I present to you, Mel Kiper take:
*6. Adrian Peterson, RB, Oklahoma (6-1½, 218) | previous: UR
Talented RB with an excellent burst to the outside for a back his size. The concern is durability.

Haha, I guess you should write Mel and tell him how 'ignorant' he is about the Cal Ripken Jr. of college football.

Slow your roll, kid! It's gonna be alright, I swear it is.

I completely understand why people would be concerned but if you dig a little deeper you see that A) he has had 747 carries in his career in college B) in his sophomore and Junior seasons he played behind a young offensive line and C) He also had to deal with a first year starting QB in both of those seasons as well.

So an ancle sprain and a broken collar bone...in 747 carries. No shredded knees, no busted ribs or spleen, nothing by any means career threatening.

So now, maybe I don't have as much of a "man crush" as some think on this board.

[-Slap-]

Runs just like Dickerson. Boy he had a sh!tty career. Your posts amaze me sometimes. Your head is as hard as a bowling ball, I know you'll stick by your guns.

I don't really see that. I think they both have an upright style, but Peterson takes more big hits. Dickerson rarely got lined up by anybody and his stiffarm was one of the best in history. Dickerson also had more of a gliding style that was deceptively fast.

Here's another important factor to consider. Eric Dickerson went to a team and a head coach that were 100% committed to running the football. John Robinson came in fresh off a national championship at USC. The Rams already had stud linemen like Jackie Slater, Dennis Harrah, Doug Hill and Kent Hill AKA the best run blocking offensive line in football. Believe me, Adrian Peterson is not going to fall ass backwards into that kind of dream scenario.

Had Georgia Frontiere not been a murderous penny pinching harpy, and had Eric stayed away from the Peruvian Marching Powder, he probably would have set the all time rushing record completely out of reach.

Eric Dickerson was way more durable than Adrian Peterson. He didn't take as many big hits and Robo-Back wore every football pad known to man to absorb the damage he did take. He only missed two games his first four seasons and those were due to a contract holdout.

His first two seasons in the NFL blow away anybody who ever played. He put up the fifth best rushing season in history (at the time) as a rookie and he set the league record of 2105 yards in his second season, a record that still stands today. After four seasons, his yardage total stood at 6968 and he had 55 rushing touchdowns. A season average of 1742 yards and 14 TDs.

+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Rushing | Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| 1983 ram | 16 | 390 1808 4.6 18 | 51 404 7.9 2 |
| 1984 ram | 16 | 379 2105 5.6 14 | 21 139 6.6 0 |
| 1985 ram | 14 | 292 1234 4.2 12 | 20 126 6.3 0 |
| 1986 ram | 16 | 404 1821 4.5 11 | 26 205 7.9 0 |
| 1987 ind | 9 | 223 1011 4.5 5 | 13 133 10.2 0 |
| 1987 ram | 3 | 60 277 4.6 1 | 5 38 7.6 0 |
| 1988 ind | 16 | 388 1659 4.3 14 | 36 377 10.5 1 |
| 1989 ind | 15 | 314 1311 4.2 7 | 30 211 7.0 1 |
| 1990 ind | 11 | 166 677 4.1 4 | 18 92 5.1 0 |
| 1991 ind | 10 | 167 536 3.2 2 | 41 269 6.6 1 |
| 1992 rai | 16 | 187 729 3.9 2 | 14 85 6.1 1 |
| 1993 atl | 4 | 26 91 3.5 0 | 6 58 9.7 0 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 146 | 2996 13259 4.4 90 | 281 2137 7.6 6 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

[skpac1001]

that was kinda impressive. I guess you all have done this before. Angryllama, gonzo, and sooner should form a regulator squad to keep ego's in check.

[bigfan]

but I know from talking with former players that he does plyometrics with 80 pound dumbells in his hands. ...

To clarrify he basically puts 80 pound dumbells in each hands and jumps up on a box 40 inches high. The'll go crazy over him at the combine, but he's still not officially coming out. I worry that he's not a patient enough runner for the NFL, or the broncos. Would he wait for the hole to open up? At OU he lines up 7 yards deep and is going with a full head of steam at the line.

[-Slap-]

Nice video... kid definately has skills a couple of observations though:

1) he better ditch that spin move or atleast cut back the amount used. Easy way to get your self killed in the pros is to turn you back to the defense.


I was going to say, I haven't seen that many spin moves since Chuck Foreman.

[SoonerBronco]

To clarrify he basically puts 80 pound dumbells in each hands and jumps up on a box 40 inches high. The'll go crazy over him at the combine, but he's still not officially coming out. I worry that he's not a patient enough runner for the NFL, or the broncos. Would he wait for the hole to open up? At OU he lines up 7 yards deep and is going with a full head of steam at the line.


have to agree with you there. I worry about that. He is definately a downhill runner. OU ran a pitch zone play similar to what we used to with TD. Peterson would pick a hole and just go. I remember him taking one to the house for 84 yards against OSU. On that play he also out ran the Cowboys fastest defensive player, who had an angle on him and caught him from behind on a similar run his freshman year. I think that guys name was McLemore. Ozmulsion should know. On that play he was patient, but you are right...he doesn't do that consistently.

As for his 40 time here is the story.

During summer drills Coach Schimdt was doing 40 times on the practice fields. Adrian ran a 4.42 on his first run. Another player lined up, don't know who it was, and ran a 4.40. Adrian demanded another chance. Coach Schmidt told him to line up. He then proceeded to run a 4.36. Coach Schmidt told him to do it again. He did and that time he ran a 4.35.

The video you guys say was of his freshman and some of his sophomore year. The 4.35 occured before this season.

I know it may seem like a "man crush" but that's all we have for football down here. OK is a culture all its own, everyone knows everyone and most folks are very kind and friendly, so it's very easy to get to know the athletes at OU and OSU a little more than other places.

[Kaylore]

I know it may seem like a "man crush"

Yup.

[bronco militia]

ya think?

bwhahaha

[-Slap-]

I'm going to enjoy watching him play wherever he goes, Oakland excluded, but I think he'll have a short peak.

[TheDave]

I'm going to enjoy watching him play wherever he goes, Oakland excluded, but I think he'll have a short peak.

Completely agree... Kid has amazing balance, footwork, shows some power and good if not great speed. But the truth is he was banged up in College and his style will only add to the punishment he takes in the pro's

[Rohirrim]

Next Christmas, I want an Aston Martin.

[epicSocialism4tw]

I'm going to enjoy watching him play wherever he goes, Oakland excluded, but I think he'll have a short peak.

That all depends on the coaching that he gets at the next level. His first step is explosive, and he has great vision. What needs to happen is that they need to convince Adrian to pick his battles. When players go low, dont spin out of it, etc. Adrian gets caught up with trying to win the game on every run. If a decent offensive line can create a hole, 5 yards is a sure thing with AD. He needs to get those 5 and be able to make a decision to lay off the gas a bit.

For instance, if he gets one-on-one with a safety, he's as good as gone. He's as deceptive as TD in the open field, but is much faster. Sometimes a safety will decide to hit him at pad level (which is a mistake), and he'll blast them out of the way. I think that he'll be able to overpower most safeties in the NFL. Guys like Polamalu and Lynch could stand him up or put a good lick on him if they caught him, but AD is a monster when he's rolling straight at you.

On the other hand, athletic, smaller players will dive head-long into his knees/ankles. Those are the situations that AD needs to become smarter in. He'll try to run through the tackle by churning his legs. His legs are powerful enough to rip free, but that leaves his ankles and knees subject to torque, and that has proven to be dangerous for him.

It's simply a matter of patience with AD. He needs to hit the hole hard, and save that burst through the second level for when he knows that he can get clear of the trash. When he's within ten yards of the LOS, he needs to keep his pad level low and expect to take hits to the legs.

[Master___Pain]

I think there will be a RB taken in the Top 5, but he will be another Bush. I predict the media will be hyping Michael Bush before the draft and some RB-deficient team will agree. Adrian might be a Top 15 pick, but I don't see him as Top 5 with his injury problems. He's going to have to really turn heads in the bowls/combines, IMO...


What the heck? You mention Peterson injuries as a reason that he won't be drafted in the top 5 but then say that Bush will be? Remind me again who had the broken leg and by all accounts is still limping?

Personally I don't see how AD is not the 1st RB chosen in the draft. He'll put up monster #s at the combine and wow all the scouts. Whether or not he's the best RB in the draft remains to be seen, but he certainly has the most hype, production and physical numbers of any back in the draft.

[SoonerBronco]

That all depends on the coaching that he gets at the next level. His first step is explosive, and he has great vision. What needs to happen is that they need to convince Adrian to pick his battles. When players go low, dont spin out of it, etc. Adrian gets caught up with trying to win the game on every run. If a decent offensive line can create a hole, 5 yards is a sure thing with AD. He needs to get those 5 and be able to make a decision to lay off the gas a bit.

For instance, if he gets one-on-one with a safety, he's as good as gone. He's as deceptive as TD in the open field, but is much faster. Sometimes a safety will decide to hit him at pad level (which is a mistake), and he'll blast them out of the way. I think that he'll be able to overpower most safeties in the NFL. Guys like Polamalu and Lynch could stand him up or put a good lick on him if they caught him, but AD is a monster when he's rolling straight at you.

On the other hand, athletic, smaller players will dive head-long into his knees/ankles. Those are the situations that AD needs to become smarter in. He'll try to run through the tackle by churning his legs. His legs are powerful enough to rip free, but that leaves his ankles and knees subject to torque, and that has proven to be dangerous for him.

It's simply a matter of patience with AD. He needs to hit the hole hard, and save that burst through the second level for when he knows that he can get clear of the trash. When he's within ten yards of the LOS, he needs to keep his pad level low and expect to take hits to the legs.


BINGO!!! We have a winner.!Booya!

[TheDave]

I have a suspicion that some of these AD boosters were Mike williams boosters a few years ago...

[epicSocialism4tw]

I have a suspicion that some of these AD boosters were Mike williams boosters a few years ago...

I never believed in Mike Williams.

AD is a completely different animal. He's one of the most impressive college football players that Ive ever seen.

[TheDave]

I never believed in Mike Williams.

AD is a completely different animal. He's one of the most impressive college football players that Ive ever seen.

That is exactly the kind of talk Williams boosters use to spout.

All kidding aside i realize that AD is night and day better than Mike Williams... It's just funny watching the flavor of the day change this time of year

[elsid13]

I understand Peterson will be feeding the mass with 3 loaves of beard and a couple of fish next

[Clockwork Orange]

(OU Sports Information)


Oklahoma running back Adrian Peterson issued the following statement today …

“I have spent the last few days considering my options to either enter the NFL Draft or stay at OU. The facts are that I have not hired any representation and I have not declared for the draft. My meetings with Coach Stoops and my parents have been to discuss all the scenarios. I see a lot of options in both so I am still undecided on what I want to do. I wish people would give me the opportunity to decide. Once I do, I will make an announcement at the right time. Any reports that are different than that are false.”

Well, all this discussion might be unwarranted...

He'd be foolish to go back to OU for another season. Right now he's quite possibly a top 5 pick and most definitely a top 10. If he goes back for his senior season and spends another year injured/banged up, he's gonna fall hard. Considering the class of eligible RB's for the 2008 draft (McFadden, Stewart, Slaton, etc.) he'd be best served coming out now while he's the #1 player at his position.

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That is exactly the kind of talk Williams boosters use to spout.

All kidding aside i realize that AD is night and day better than Mike Williams... It's just funny watching the flavor of the day change this time of year

I accurately predicted Mike Williams would never live up to his hype.

How many good fat wide receivers have there been anyway?

My take five minutes after Matt Meathead selected him. (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=613068&postcount=135)

[Clockwork Orange]

Actually, the Mike Williams fanboys were far worse than the Adrian Peterson boosters. There was at least one Williams devotee who was calling for the Broncos to trade their entire draft to move up and grab him.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Actually, the Mike Williams fanboys were far worse than the Adrian Peterson boosters. There was at least one Williams devotee who was calling for the Broncos to trade their entire draft to move up and grab him.

Great googlymoogly. I cant believe that you remember that, Clockwork. Kudos. The Gingko Biloba is working. :)

I also cant believe that someone was that gaga over Williams.

[epicSocialism4tw]

I accurately predicted Mike Williams would never live up to his hype.

How many good fat wide receivers have there been anyway?

My take five minutes after Matt Meathead selected him. (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=613068&postcount=135)

You were wrong on Demarcus Ware though when you said that the Cowboys reached for him. :)

You know, its funny. The general sentiment on that thread towards several excellent picks was one of confusion and shock. I guess that that goes to show how much we really know about the war room. One of the best looking picks is the Jammal Brown selecion by New Orleans. What an excellent job of identifying the talent and going for it. It's funny to look at the board's general reaction to that pick in light of the fears that Derrick Johnson would fall to the Chefs.

[GonzoLays]

I accurately predicted Mike Williams would never live up to his hype.

How many good fat wide receivers have there been anyway?

My take five minutes after Matt Meathead selected him. (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=613068&postcount=135)

Yes, and you gave this gem not five minutes later:

Ware is a R E A C H !
rofl

The Cowboys certainly reached to grab Pro Bowl OLB/DE Demarcus Ware in the first round, Slap.

Tell me, how do you do it? How do you know so much? It's amazing.

[GonzoLays]

And here is a gem from Mock:

If Mike Williams is there at 7 I take him and run to the bank.

lol

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White guys can't play defensive end, right, Gonzo?

[TheChamp24]

I was never high on Mike Williams. I thought he could be a decent/solid WR, be a kind of possession WR and a threat in the red zone. Never like the hype I saw before the draft though, when people were predicting him to be a top 5 pick. In the 2004 draft, if he would've been in that one, he would've been picked in the teens. Not higher than that.

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White guys can't play defensive end, right, Gonzo?

What the matter, Gonzo?

Not willing to take ownership of that comment now?

[Maximus]

I was going to say, I haven't seen that many spin moves since Chuck Foreman.


How dare you mention anyone's spin move in the same sentence as chuck foreman!!! That was the best damn spin move in football Ever... his spin move was almost better than Earl Monroe's!

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How dare you mention anyone's spin move in the same sentence as chuck foreman!!! That was the best damn spin move in football Ever... his spin move was almost better than Earl Monroe's!

Have you been reading this board?

Adrian Peterson is better than Earl Campbell and Eric Dickerson. It goes without saying anything Chuck Foreman does, he can do better.

[Maximus]

Have you been reading this board?

Adrian Peterson is better than Earl Campbell and Eric Dickerson. It goes without saying anything Chuck Foreman does, he can do better.

I have and some people need to put the pre-draft doobies down and try to think about the prototype for an NFL RB. Eric Dickerson would be the person to compare Peterson too. They both run very upright and that is where the comparison ends. Dickerson had more toughness and better acceleration!!! Dickerson had fumble and Hamstring itis.

Peterson is an injury waiting to happen... unless he gets on a different workout program. I have to give him credit for having great feet. The kid can leave tacklers looking very stupid.

That being said... I would not mind the Raiders getting him with a lower pick. I think the kid from cal is a better pro runningback... Ala Stephen Jackson (Rams)

[SouthStndJunkie]

Not true. ;)
I'm curious about both Michael Bush and Tony Hunt. You don't see a lot of 6-2, 6-3 runningbacks. The prospects of their height and field vision in our cut-back offense is intriguing to me.

I think Tony Hunt is very underrated.

[Clockwork Orange]

Peterson officially declares for the NFL Draft.

http://www.soonersports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=300&ATCLID=747779