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telluride
01-05-2007, 01:22 AM
I do.

From Schefter's report:

Lost in the shuffle of Jim Mora's firing was this development -- Atlanta also lost coaching consultant Alex Gibbs, one of the top offensive line coaches in NFL history.

In each of Alex Gibbs' three seasons with Atlanta, the Falcons led the NFL in rushing.
Gibbs notified the Falcons in December he would not return, and he now is awaiting his next coaching move from the comforts of his home in Arizona.

Killericon
01-05-2007, 01:23 AM
Hell, I'd want him as our Offensive Coordinator, nevermind offensive line coach.

PRBronco
01-05-2007, 01:25 AM
Man, that was my first thought as soon as I saw Mora got canned. Here's hopin!

Billy Clyde Puckett
01-05-2007, 01:25 AM
Remember he was part of the problem when Shanahan sent his kid packing in the middle of the season.

BlaK-Argentina
01-05-2007, 01:26 AM
What are we waiting for?! BRING HIM IN!!! NOW!!!

Man-Goblin
01-05-2007, 01:26 AM
mmmmmmmm, gimme some.

BlaK-Argentina
01-05-2007, 01:30 AM
You think Shanny will give him a call?

BigPlayShay
01-05-2007, 01:35 AM
Something tells me that Alex and Mike probably aren't friendly anymore after Shanny canned Alex's son in 2004 for.

Sodak
01-05-2007, 01:36 AM
I said I wanted him back the day Mora got canned. Hell yes! Even if it's part time!

Tredici
01-05-2007, 01:37 AM
I think we've seen the deterioration of the o-line play. I give it one more season before Dennison is back in the idiot category...

Sodak
01-05-2007, 01:37 AM
Something tells me that Alex and Mike probably aren't friendly anymore after Shanny canned Alex's son in 2004 for.


We can only hope that Alex understands his son as much as Shanahan did.

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
01-05-2007, 01:44 AM
I take Gibbs back even if it meant that we had to take his kid back as an assistant.

watermock
01-05-2007, 01:44 AM
pass

Dr.5280
01-05-2007, 01:45 AM
Regretably, there might be bad blood.

Tredici
01-05-2007, 01:47 AM
Think there is any bad blood with Kubiak?

epicSocialism4tw
01-05-2007, 01:54 AM
Our OL stinks.

Bring back Gibbs.

Atwater His Ass
01-05-2007, 01:58 AM
Yes.

listopencil
01-05-2007, 02:06 AM
If elder Gibbs was willing to come in it would help the team. I'd like to see it.

chickennob2
01-05-2007, 02:12 AM
Bring him in as OC. There's no such thing as bad blood in business. The OLine needs help, and Gibbs is the answer to our prayers.

Jetmeck
01-05-2007, 02:13 AM
What are we waiting for?! BRING HIM IN!!! NOW!!!


EXCATLY, his phone should be ringing right now.

broncocalijohn
01-05-2007, 02:39 AM
pass

Ill take him. You never want to have bad blood. Alex Gibbs was a god where most assistants never get that recognition. Dennison can coach Special Teams again. Mock doesnt want him, we should take him.

Natedogg
01-05-2007, 04:06 AM
All I ever do is want Alex Gibbs back.

fontaine
01-05-2007, 04:26 AM
No thanks.

He's one hell of a coach, but let's not forget his antics here of staying at home on game days, announcing one year retirements etc.

Our OL was crap this year not because our starters sucked. Well apart from Foster. It was due to injuries.

The running game will take the next step with better RBs, a solid RT and Lepsis returing healthy.

mosca
01-05-2007, 04:45 AM
No thanks.

He's one hell of a coach, but let's not forget his antics here of staying at home on game days, announcing one year retirements etc.
Yes. This tells me that he won't be coming back... as much as I'd like him to be here. How old is the guy, anyway?

elsid13
01-05-2007, 05:05 AM
He a consult now, and not a coach. So all he would do is come in and help id the problem and get stuff moving but stick around. The man is in his 70s

IF Denver decide to hire a linecoach, maybe whoever ATL had great, bring him in to help get the line back on track. And remember money has feel old wounds in the professional world.

Kaylore
01-05-2007, 05:08 AM
The problems with our offensive line have more to do with personnel than coaching. We need better, bigger players to make things work a bit better. And I agree that after the fiasco of his son getting canned that we probably burned that bridge for sure.

OrangeShadow
01-05-2007, 06:36 AM
if they were willing to settle their differences id be all for it. They need someone who is going to yell and get in their faces when they screw up.

Dedhed
01-05-2007, 07:29 AM
I don't know whether the bridge is burned or not. I don't much care about the antics prior to leaving. What I care about is better line play, and Gibbs is the best there is. If he'll come back, it's a no-brainer.

cambrad8085
01-05-2007, 07:47 AM
Yes please.

gunns
01-05-2007, 08:04 AM
He a consult now, and not a coach. So all he would do is come in and help id the problem and get stuff moving but stick around. The man is in his 70s

Sure I'd take him back but not to help ID the problem. We know the overall problem and it's Dennison. I'd take Gibbs even to help out someone new we hired (please!). The OL has steadily declined since Dennison took over. He looks as inept at the OL as he did as ST coach. Sidenote: Yes, let's get rid of Bradford too.

I do agree we need bigger players but I think that reflects back on Dennison who thinks he is Gibbs and can get a smaller line to do what Gibbs did. He can't.

ukbroncosfan
01-05-2007, 08:18 AM
Think there is any bad blood with Kubiak?

No. Gibbs was thinking about leaving the Atlanta Falcons this time last year to join Kubiak in Houston. One of the main reasons he was thinking about leaving Atlanta was because it was closer to home.

ukbroncosfan
01-05-2007, 08:25 AM
Sure I'd take him back but not to help ID the problem. We know the overall problem and it's Dennison. I'd take Gibbs even to help out someone new we hired (please!). The OL has steadily declined since Dennison took over. He looks as inept at the OL as he did as ST coach. Sidenote: Yes, let's get rid of Bradford too.

I do agree we need bigger players but I think that reflects back on Dennison who thinks he is Gibbs and can get a smaller line to do what Gibbs did. He can't.

The funny thing is fans in Atlanta have been saying the same things about Gibbs. Falcons fans want bigger players who can pass protect. Since Gibbs arrived the Falcons have given up 50, 39 and 47 sacks with the most athletic QB in the history of the game behind center.

ukbroncosfan
01-05-2007, 08:29 AM
The problems with our offensive line have more to do with personnel than coaching. We need better, bigger players to make things work a bit better. And I agree that after the fiasco of his son getting canned that we probably burned that bridge for sure.

George Foster was drafted in the first round and is a bigger player and look how that worked out.

ukbroncosfan
01-05-2007, 08:51 AM
He a consult now, and not a coach. So all he would do is come in and help id the problem and get stuff moving but stick around. The man is in his 70s

IF Denver decide to hire a linecoach, maybe whoever ATL had great, bring him in to help get the line back on track. And remember money has feel old wounds in the professional world.

Jeff Jagodzinski took over from Alex Gibbs in 2005, he became the Green Bay Packers Offensive Coordinator in 2006 before being hired by Boston college. Jags credits Gibbs as being the biggest influence in his football life.

In 2006 the Falcons hired Tom Cable from UCLA.

Orange_Beard
01-05-2007, 08:57 AM
Yes.

want2bAbronco2
01-05-2007, 09:33 AM
hell yes, call him now!

cmhargrove
01-05-2007, 09:47 AM
I think injuries were the key to our line this year as well. I am actually excited about the possibility next year of a healthy Lepsis at LT, move Pears over to RT, and let the young guys push for spots in the middle (if they can outdo Hamilton or Carlisle). Put 10-15 pounds on Mike Bell so he can block a little better, draft another RB in round 2 or 3. I think we have all the pieces. Now that we have seen how Cutler plays, we can game plan a little more around his strengths.

Also, I think we could benefit from more use of a FBs. Either Cecil Sapp steps up as hammerhead, or get another. Watching three third and goals fail against SF was almost too much. If we get a beast lead blocker in there ala Mack Strong, we would have turned about 3 more games into wins this year.

I want Cutler to be the dude, but Denver just isn't Denver if we can't steamroll on short yeardage and goal to go situations. I am sick of seeing our RB's get smackked in the backfield or stonewalled at the line of scrimmage at the goal line.

Rock Chalk
01-05-2007, 09:58 AM
No thanks.

He's one hell of a coach, but let's not forget his antics here of staying at home on game days, announcing one year retirements etc.

Our OL was crap this year not because our starters sucked. Well apart from Foster. It was due to injuries.

The running game will take the next step with better RBs, a solid RT and Lepsis returing healthy.

I agree with most of this.

Our O-Line was crap because of Foster. One guy made the whole thing look terrible in pass blocking.

Where Gibbs would help wouldnt be pass blocking though, it is in run blocking that he is a master o-line coach. Our goal-to-go situatins need serious attention.

loborugger
01-05-2007, 10:09 AM
YES

He had a habit of instilling the attitude necessary to be a good O Line. And while we did have injuries, I think the attitude was missing, too. We need no BS, no finesse, smash mouth blocking.

Hotrod
01-05-2007, 10:35 AM
As the Oline coach in a second. Pay the man. Of course it depends on if the Gibbs Jr situation has blown over or not.

fontaine
01-05-2007, 10:54 AM
1. Gibbs ain't coming back for the just the OL. In Denver and Atlanta he was the Assistant Head Coach/Consultant. Heimerdinger occupies the Assistant Head Coach thing now so I don't see how Denver is going to be big enough for the both of them.

2. I'm happy enough with the coaching. What we need is better decision making on personnel. I'm glad we were able to get someone like Kuper after years of failures with OL prospects. I can't remember the name of the guy but we drafted some Center/Guard who didn't make it past first round of cuts. That was pathetic. Foster was never anything more than average. The last OL we drafted that has panned out was Cooper Carlisle which was I don't know how long ago.

Elway 4 Life
01-05-2007, 10:55 AM
He will be with the Texans within two months. Mark my words.

Traveler
01-05-2007, 11:19 AM
1. Gibbs ain't coming back for the just the OL. In Denver and Atlanta he was the Assistant Head Coach/Consultant. Heimerdinger occupies the Assistant Head Coach thing now so I don't see how Denver is going to be big enough for the both of them.

2. I'm happy enough with the coaching. What we need is better decision making on personnel. I'm glad we were able to get someone like Kuper after years of failures with OL prospects. I can't remember the name of the guy but we drafted some Center/Guard who didn't make it past first round of cuts. That was pathetic. Foster was never anything more than average. The last OL we drafted that has panned out was Cooper Carlisle which was I don't know how long ago.

I think you are referring to Tyson Claybo, the G from Wake Forest. Last I saw here in ATL, he was one of their starting G's.

fontaine
01-05-2007, 11:31 AM
I think you are referring to Tyson Claybo, the G from Wake Forest. Last I saw here in ATL, he was one of their starting G's.

Nah, Clabo wasn't drafted as far as I know.

I think it was either (or maybe both) Ben Claxton, Josh Sewell who bombed out right after training camp.

Billy Clyde Puckett
01-05-2007, 11:44 AM
Nah, Clabo wasn't drafted as far as I know.

I think it was either (or maybe both) Ben Claxton, Josh Sewell who bombed out right after training camp.

I believe it was Claxton who was drafted in round 4 or 5. Pretty sure Sewell was a UDFA. Sewell surprised the FO and quit football after a year on the PS.

c_lazy_r
01-05-2007, 11:50 AM
"...I want Cutler to be the dude, but Denver just isn't Denver if we can't steamroll on short yeardage and goal to go situations. I am sick of seeing our RB's get smackked in the backfield or stonewalled at the line of scrimmage at the goal line."


In my opinion, part of our short yardage and goal line problems have been the lack of a legitimate passing threat. The opposing defense has been able to key on the run as long as someone stayed home to contain the bootleg. Making defenses play honest should help in these situations.

Hopefully Cutler can add a dimension that has been missing for awhile.

El Guapo
01-05-2007, 11:51 AM
oh man, no question I would bring him back.

bpc
01-05-2007, 12:00 PM
I don't know if I really WANT him back... however one thing that I do like about Gibbs is that he would have rolled over and died before he put George Foster back out in the lineup after he continued to get our QB leveled... over and over and over.

REB
01-05-2007, 12:15 PM
Yes

Mediator12
01-05-2007, 01:59 PM
Wow! People think that Gibbs is even talking to Shanahan over what happened with his son? The same fiery Gibbs who loses it over a missed cut block is talking to the coach who fired his son midseason in complete humiliation? I thought you all were a less forgiving sort ;D I know Alex Gibbs is not.

55CrushEm
01-05-2007, 02:25 PM
I believe it was Claxton who was drafted in round 4 or 5. Pretty sure Sewell was a UDFA. Sewell surprised the FO and quit football after a year on the PS.

FYI.....here are Denver's draft picks dating all the way back to 1982....

http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/teams/DEN

watermock
01-05-2007, 03:12 PM
Well that was fun to wade thru. Might as well sniff around a garbage landfill.

Kaylore
01-05-2007, 03:17 PM
George Foster was drafted in the first round and is a bigger player and look how that worked out.

George Foster isn't a bad player because he is large. There are innumerable examples of all-pro and Hall of Fame tackles and guards who are large. Foster sucks because he isn't a good football player.

REB
01-05-2007, 03:22 PM
George Foster isn't a bad player because he is large. There are innumerable examples of all-pro and Hall of Fame tackles and guards who are large. Foster sucks because he isn't a good football player.

^ Truth!

REB
01-05-2007, 03:24 PM
It's definatley (I hope) time to let go of who just obviously aint gonna cut it...Plummer, Tater Tot, Foster...

1-2-3-:Broncos:!!!!!!! :charge:

LonghornBronco
01-05-2007, 03:46 PM
Does anyone know the story behind Gibbs Jr. getting canned?

cpad007
01-05-2007, 04:01 PM
Our O-line suffered from the absence of Matt Lepsis and Foster's poor play. Gibbs might be nice but I don't think totally necessary. I like the idea of him being a consultant, however.

bloodsunday
01-05-2007, 04:17 PM
No thanks.

He's one hell of a coach, but let's not forget his antics here of staying at home on game days, announcing one year retirements etc.

Our OL was crap this year not because our starters sucked. Well apart from Foster. It was due to injuries.

The running game will take the next step with better RBs, a solid RT and Lepsis returing healthy.

Good post.

I don't think Shanny would even consider it because of your first point. Remember he didn't bring Sauerbraun back this year because he didn't think the organization could rely on him.

The one thing that appeals to me about Gibbs is that he was such a passionate, fiery guy. I think we miss that at times. He didn't just ride the OL, he would get on anyone he thought was loafing.

Dudeskey
01-05-2007, 05:50 PM
Aside from the negative things fontaine cited, I'd love to have him back...

orinjkrush
01-05-2007, 06:47 PM
i would. shanny wont. my guess.

broncolife
01-06-2007, 01:23 AM
Sure I'd take him back but not to help ID the problem. We know the overall problem and it's Dennison. I'd take Gibbs even to help out someone new we hired (please!). The OL has steadily declined since Dennison took over. He looks as inept at the OL as he did as ST coach. Sidenote: Yes, let's get rid of Bradford too.

I do agree we need bigger players but I think that reflects back on Dennison who thinks he is Gibbs and can get a smaller line to do what Gibbs did. He can't.

Great post! Stole the words right out of my mouth.REP

footstepsfrom#27
01-06-2007, 02:08 AM
First I've heard of this...if we're going to stick with the zone blocking scheme then ABSOLUTELY...I'm all for bringing Gibbs back. He's forgotten more football than Rick Dennison has ever known. If we move to a bigger line and dump the zone blocking, then no.

Either way I'd like to see Dennison gone.

wabbit
01-06-2007, 02:25 AM
Dr. 5280
Regretably, there might be bad blood.

There is, but no-one has ever been able to uncover what, exactly happened. Speculation is that Gibbs wanted to remain a part-timecoach, or consultant, & Shanahan wanted a full-time coach.

Tredici
Think there is any bad blood with Kubiak?

None at all. From what I've heard, Shanahan & Kubiak talk at least once a week, sometimes more.

Judging by Houston's first round draft pick, I might even speculate Kubes might want to listen to someone else (tongue-in-cheek folks...sheesh)

Bronco Yoda
01-06-2007, 06:53 AM
You Betcha!!!!!

Don Flamenco
01-06-2007, 07:37 AM
Does anyone know the story behind Gibbs Jr. getting canned?

Yeah He got Canned a couple of years ago after our home game loss against the falcons. For some reason during the game, we had kelly Herndon covering, I think it was Peerless Price, who continued to make play after play instead of Bailey. There were also reports that Jr. was tipping Sr. off on our gameplan. Ultimately, it was insubordination that got him fired.

NYBronco
01-06-2007, 08:18 AM
I don't think Alex could improve the play of Foster.

The stats below are provided by NFL.com and lists the Atlanta's rushing offense at #1 and Denver's at #8. Keep in mind most of Atlanta's rushing numbers come from Michael Vick.

I prefer Denver's conventional rushing game to Atlanta's. I like the undrafted rookie Mike Bell and expect to see him improve next year.

Rushing Offense - Rushing Yards/Game
Team G Att Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TDs FDs 20+
Atlanta 16 537 33.6 2939 5.5 183.7 9 134 23
San Diego 16 522 32.6 2578 4.9 161.1 32 137 20
Jacksonville 16 513 32.1 2541 5.0 158.8 23 127 14
Washington 16 490 30.6 2216 4.5 138.5 13 123 13
Tennessee 16 469 29.3 2214 4.7 138.4 15 105 17
San Francisco 16 439 27.4 2172 4.9 135.8 12 97 20
New York (N) 16 455 28.4 2156 4.7 134.8 14 120 13
Denver 16 488 30.5 2152 4.4 134.5 12 106 16
Kansas City 16 513 32.1 2143 4.2 133.9 17 105 12
Pittsburgh 16 469 29.3 1992 4.2 124.5 16 100 16
Philadelphia 16 416 26.0 1984 4.8 124.0 13 106 11
New England 16 499 31.2 1969 3.9 123.1 20 121 12
Dallas 16 472 29.5 1936 4.1 121.0 21 107 10
Seattle 16 484 30.2 1923 4.0 120.2 8 112 8
Chicago 16 503 31.4 1918 3.8 119.9 14 103 7
Minnesota 16 442 27.6 1820 4.1 113.8 12 87 7
St. Louis 16 424 26.5 1805 4.3 112.8 13 94 10
Indianapolis 16 439 27.4 1762 4.0 110.1 17 112 3
New Orleans 16 472 29.5 1761 3.7 110.1 19 99 6
New York (A) 16 491 30.7 1738 3.5 108.6 15 99 7
Houston 16 431 26.9 1687 3.9 105.4 13 106 7
Miami 16 402 25.1 1673 4.2 104.6 7 82 9
Green Bay 16 431 26.9 1663 3.9 103.9 9 93 7
Carolina 16 423 26.4 1659 3.9 103.7 7 100 11
Baltimore 16 476 29.8 1637 3.4 102.3 11 86 6
Cincinnati 16 435 27.2 1629 3.7 101.8 14 88 5
Buffalo 16 420 26.2 1552 3.7 97.0 9 82 4
Tampa Bay 16 404 25.2 1523 3.8 95.2 6 82 6
Oakland 16 394 24.6 1519 3.9 94.9 5 73 4
Arizona 16 419 26.2 1338 3.2 83.6 12 84 0
Cleveland 16 372 23.2 1335 3.6 83.4 7 72 2
Detroit 16 304 19.0 1129 3.7 70.6 9 53 6

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