from pft.com SHELL OUT IN OAKLAND

[bronco militia]

from pft.com

SHELL OUT IN OAKLAND

Adam Schefter was right, after all.

A league source tells us that the Oakland Raiders are firing coach Art Shell. Today.

More to come

[-Slap-]

But Schefter is on the Bronco payroll.

[Hotrod]

Are they promoting the bed & breakfast guy???

[Tredici]

But Schefter is on the Bronco payroll.

Aw hell, Al has already forgotten who he is three times today let alone a distant memory from last week.

[The Moops]

They must have someone in mind that has verbally agreed. Otherwise it'll take another 6-12 months to find someone to take that crappy job.

I once stayed at a Bed & Breakfast, maybe I've got enough experience.

[Arkansas Bronco]

I am completly shocked to hear this. ???

[Hotrod]

I got $ on the D coach

[watermock]

Beezer was called regaring the job but I told him to stay awy. Three cans of whitfish tuna a week isn't going to take Kitty Cat.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Hoping this is an easy way for Millen to exit Detroit. Coach Millen :rofl:

[Dudeskey]

I got $ on the D coach

If he dares, lol... I dunno if anyone in their right mind would want that job. Al Davis may have to name himself HC, if he remembers

[400HZ]

Rob Ryan looks like he was born to be a raiders coach. He put together a really good defense this year.

[ZONA]

Not so long ago I was in a Raiders forum during preseason and several of them had said they were so pumped that Shell was the new HC and we should look out. Of course I had to inform them of their own insanity.

Bye Shell - you knew it would never work anyway. The Raiders are pushing both the Lions and the Cardinals for the most pathetic team in the league award next year. Should be fun to watch...........NOT.

[The Moops]

Maybe Ryan can bring his dad, Buddy, back just for weekly soundbites. He was hilarious.

[DomCasual]

Are they promoting the bed & breakfast guy???

:rofl:

[NFLBRONCO]

Cool maybe they will hire Coyer

[Kaylore]

I just farted...in other news....

[loborugger]

Didnt it take the Raiders a couple of months - and a handful of applicants - to fill this position last year? If not Shell, who? Seriously, who the hell wants to jump on that grenade?

[bronco militia]

I just farted...in other news....

http://blogs.rockymountainnews.com/denver/drew/archives/drew1111toon.gif

:giggle:

[Jens1893]

Just read this quite fitting description of Al Davis on another board. Too good not to share.

He's like a senile version of Jerry Jones on crack and amped up. I look it him and see this scarry and somewhat violent outburst prone old man in a retirement home.

[Ratboy]

I wouldnt mind firing Coyer and nabbing Rob Ryan.

[broncosteven]

I wouldnt mind nailing Rob Ryan.

Huh?

[ol number 7]

http://blogs.rockymountainnews.com/denver/drew/archives/drew1111toon.gif

:giggle:

bump: I thought he did a great job !! As warden of the asylum. :afro:

[Bronx33]

And the cluster **** turns the page on another year.

[zdoor]

I wouldnt mind firing Coyer and nabbing Rob Ryan.

I agree. If they fire the whole staff I wouldn't mind going after him. That defense did pretty well considering the position they were put in all year.

[freak6]

Brady Quinn should go to the CFL for a year. Or pull an Elway.

[KipCorrington25]

They have Tom Bodett lined up to take the job.

[zdoor]

Brady Quinn should go to the CFL for a year. Or pull an Elway.

After last night I'm betting Quinn isn't the first pick....

[bendog]

Reminds of putting an old dog down. You really hate to see him go, and know you'll miss him, but it's really for his own good.

[Bronx33]

Question is which coach will be stupid enough to take the job this time, there is no way a quality coach would touch that situaition with a 10 foot pole.

[NYBronco]

It really must have been painful for Al to follow his team this past year.
I wish him the best next year.

[Broncos4tw]

I bet Art is thrilled, too. His biggest worry was probably that he'd not get fired. :D

That team will never succeed again, until a new owner takes over. Al has ruined the team, and will continue to drag it into the dirt until he leaves.

[BroncoBuff]

Capers, full authority, and 4 years job security going in.

[Bronx33]

Capers, full authority, and 4 years job security going in.


There is no such thing when al is in charge.

[BroncoBen]

I love this post...made me cough up my Sprite laughing... but this is so true.

Reminds of putting an old dog down. You really hate to see him go, and know you'll miss him, but it's really for his own good.

[gunns]

I wouldnt mind firing Coyer and nabbing Rob Ryan.


Not me, I'd want Ron Rivera.

[gunns]

It really must have been painful for Al to follow his team this past year.
I wish him the best next year.

Why? He's responsible for the debacle out there on that field.
I wish him more of the same.

[When Lightning Strikes]

i can be the Raiders new Head Coach because last night i stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.

[Bronx33]

i can be the Raiders new Head Coach because last night i stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.




You would be over qualified and al likes his coaches submissive.

[Killericon]

Maybe they'll be able to find someone who cares this time around.

[Kaylore]

I'm seriously curious if they will find anyone. I suppose Rob Ryan could do it, but does he want to? Long live Al Davis. He's a loser and his team is a bunch of disinterested malcontents.

[Malcontent]

I'm seriously curious if they will find anyone. I suppose Rob Ryan could do it, but does he want to? Long live Al Davis. He's a loser and his team is a bunch of disinterested malcontents.

Hey!

[Dudeskey]

Well, its official
http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory?id=2772301&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

Every once in a while PFT pulls one out of their ass...

[Pendejo]

There's a link on yahoo as well.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Agsj5smMQhvlklIbotwyUrJDubYF?slug=ap-raiders-shell&prov=ap&type=lgns

[Bronco Bob]

I'm seriously curious if they will find anyone. I suppose Rob Ryan could do it, but does he want to? Long live Al Davis. He's a loser and his team is a bunch of disinterested malcontents.

Has a team ever gone into a season without a head coach? Is that even possible? Or is there an NFL rule against it?

[wabbit]

Has a team ever gone into a season without a head coach? Is that even possible? ...


The Raiders have the last two years & no-one said anything.

[Sodak]

Al Davis probably doesn't remember that he just took a dump in his pants.

I love what the Fade has become. Long live the Cryptkeeper.

[Tredici]

The Raiders have the last two years & no-one said anything.

Hahahahahahah.

From an Oakland presser:

Al! Al! Why did you fire Art Shell?

Al: Whose Art Shell?

Al! Al! Whose going to be your new coach in 2007?

Al: We're talking to Art Shell.

[Clockwork Orange]

Hahahahahahah.

From an Oakland presser:

Al! Al! Why did you fire Art Shell?

Al: Whose Art Shell?

Al! Al! Whose going to be your new coach in 2007?

Al: We're talking to Art Shell.

LOL

He's probably trying to negotiate a way to trade up from the #1 pick as we speak. He'll be told he can't do that and a lawsuit against the league will follow.

[Tredici]

Okay Al, what are your thoughts about who you want to bring in as HC?

Al: Anybody know anything about that guy in Tampa Bay?

[Clockwork Orange]

I figured it was Joe Bugel's turn to be recycled in Oakland.

[Dr.5280]

This is pissing me off. I just posted a reply and was cut off. My effort evaporated into cyber space. ****ing fix the problem PLEASE.

[Dr.5280]

life is hard. life is really hard if your trying to post on this site.

[fontaine]

I'm seriously curious if they will find anyone. I suppose Rob Ryan could do it, but does he want to? Long live Al Davis. He's a loser and his team is a bunch of disinterested malcontents.

I actually think they won't have too many problems finding a good HC candidate.

The defense is on an upswing with plenty of young talent and already is a pretty decent unit. That's a pretty big deal.

The only significant problems are at OL/QB. With the top pick at each round and someone like Quinn available I think the faders job is more attractive than it was when Shell took over.

Besides, it's not exactly a pressure cooker situation. Any HC coming in won't be expected to do a whole lot until two/three seasons. Marginal improvement is all that's required and they really can't get much worse.

[Kaylore]

Besides, it's not exactly a pressure cooker situation. Any HC coming in won't be expected to do a whole lot until two/three seasons. Marginal improvement is all that's required and they really can't get much worse.

Not really. Al has little patience to let any sort of continuity form on that team. Every coach that has gone in there recently has been lucky to hack out two seasons and they have to work with the staff that Al Davis has selected. That's a raw deal, if you ask me.

[fontaine]

Not really. Al has little patience to let any sort of continuity form on that team. Every coach that has gone in there recently has been lucky to hack out two seasons and they have to work with the staff that Al Davis has selected. That's a raw deal, if you ask me.

Well defensively would you want to change the staff? They're doing fine.

Offensively, Shell picked the bed and breakfast guy and shoop so I'm not sure. I know Al gets final say over personnel and apart from Gallery his recent FA/Drafts have been good.

I think Al's impatience with coaches has more to do with how the team is perceived more than anything. Callaghan was gone because he called them the dumbest team in America, and under Shell their offense was a laughing stock and the butt of jokes with Walsh. As long as the team is improving, even marginally, the new coach will stay as long as the faders aren't considering a joke which I think hurts Al more than losing.

[-Slap-]

Having the number one pick, plus a solid defense makes them attractive. If I'm a head coaching prospect, I would view this is as a golden opportunity and a stepping stone to larger things. I would look the old man square in the eye and level with him. The only way out of his current situation is to totally step back and let a man of singular vision take over the day to day football operations. I think he would be receptive this time.

How do you think it feels for a guy with the pride and ego of an Al Davis to know his team is a laughing stock? I think he'll swallow hard and give his next coach at least as much autonomy as Gruden had and possibly quite a bit more.

[fontaine]

Having the number one pick, plus a solid defense makes them attractive. If I'm a head coaching prospect, I would view this is as a golden opportunity and a stepping stone to larger things. I would look the old man square in the eye and level with him. The only way out of his current situation is to totally step back and let a man of singular vision take over the day to day football operations. I think he would be receptive this time.

How do you think it feels for a guy with the pride and ego of an Al Davis to know his team is a laughing stock? I think he'll swallow hard and give his next coach at least as much autonomy as Gruden had and possibly quite a bit more.

I agree. There will be plenty of hungry HC candidates looking for their first gig.

The problem is going to be filling out offensive assistants. No secret that guys like Shoop/Walsh/OL coach/WRs coach etc are all history. Any new HC coming in, especially a first timer will find it tough to get quality assistants considering the good ones look for top dollar and job security. Still though, there are plenty of guys among the college ranks looking for a foot in to the NFL.

[bendog]

Whattah think? They take Brady Quinn?

[-Slap-]

I think they could go that route, or maybe Calvin Johnson. I think they should also explore trading down. They need so much on offense. Quinn will get murdered there for the first couple years at least with what surrounds him on offense.

[ColoradoBuff]

Al just needs to just check himself into the local Bay Area nursing home and let nature take it's course. Shoot, he couldn't run the organization any worse from there than he is right now.

[ColoradoBuff]

I hope the Raiduh's don't take JeMarcus Russell.......could you see Ian Gold tackling him??? LOL!!!

[bendog]

I dunno. I hate the golden domers, and didn't watch them this season. I just don't know about Quinn. He makes me suspicious cause with Wise there may appear to be more there than there really is, and what I saw last year wasn't really reminding me of either of the Mannings who just looked franchise qb material. If you blow the no 1 overall on a guy who turns out to be mediocre or even a total bust (which Quinn shouldn't be) it's a big set back. I think I'd try to trade down. Hou got stuck last year.

[-Slap-]

I dunno. I hate the golden domers, and didn't watch them this season. I just don't know about Quinn. He makes me suspicious cause with Wise there may appear to be more there than there really is, and what I saw last year wasn't really reminding me of either of the Mannings who just looked franchise qb material. If you blow the no 1 overall on a guy who turns out to be mediocre or even a total bust (which Quinn shouldn't be) it's a big set back. I think I'd try to trade down. Hou got stuck last year.

I totally agree with you. I mean, on one hand, if the offense is rebuilding anyway, what better opportunity to let your young quarterback learn the ropes? The problem with that is you can't always tell if the guy sucks or if its the lack of talent around him. That way you might wind up wasting six years behind some guy who's not the answer, but who's too expensive to dump.

http://www.21cent.net/vick/vickdraft1hat.jpg

[bendog]

Vick's unique. I don't think you can run a real pro scheme with him. It might not be impossible to win a championship with him, if you had a defense like the ravens or bears, a decent running game and you just played a short field. Like Den did in the 70s, and then if you get over your own forty, just cut him lose.

Elway, the Mannings (all 3), Staubach, Plunkett, McMahon (the knees) those were guys I just had no doubts about. Of course, it's all relative. Put them on a terrible team, they won't win. But I thought they had nfl game w/o doubt. Aikman had the arm too.

Pitts had that wierd thing with Hanratty and Bradshaw. I never understood that. Go with Hanratty or draft the physical talent of Bradshaw? Why keep Hanratty. Probably because for 3 seasons Bradshaw looked like a bust.

Some put Lienhart in the non miss category, but I'm not sold on whether he can throw the deep out consistently.

ps, I thought last year Cutler had the best chance of being a franchise qb of the three. I wonder what Jeff Fisher really thought, or if he had no choice but to take Young.

[broncosteven]

So where does this leave Brooks? LOL!

[watermock]

Considering their D was actually pretty damn good, it's astounding how impotent the offense was. Moss and Porter are both obviously trying to play their way out of the black hole.

I honestly feel sorry for Shell...he came back to restore a semblance of honor back to a once proud franchise. Fortunately, or Unfortunately depending on your perspective, Shell was trying to run a system doomed to failure...no motion, no zone blocking, vertical offense. The game had passed him by, obviously.

If Vick is a coach killer, does that make Crazy Al a serial coach killer? Compare that with Pittsburg, which hasn't fired a coach since 1969. Two coaches all that time, and one for the thumb. I expect Cohwer to be coaching Carolina in a year or two. He had secretly bought a house in N.C. two years ago.

Ya know something...I honestly kinda wish that Oakland could at least be compeditive....HAAAAAAA!