Teddy Ginn Jr. (Merged)

[long beach bronco]

If we get this kid, he will cure the 3rd WR spot and the special teams sickness that we've had for years now. This kid is a true gamebreaker.

[shakenbake]

we don't need a reciever that doesn't know how to run routes. Not in this offense. We Need a damn decent D-linemen.

[iowa broncofan]

He is Peter Warrick. I hope we don't pick him.

[shakenbake]

If you want a WR from tOSU go with Gonzales.

[long beach bronco]

We need a Dlineman but a draft pick wont help us until 2008 or beyond, we want to win now, we need to go out and get Justin Smith, Simeon Rice or Leonard Little in free agency but this guy Ginn Jr. could help us now, right now.

[The MVPlaya]

We don't need to use a 1st round pick on a WR...or even a 2nd round pick.

Ginn is not Devin Hester...

[long beach bronco]

He's better.

[The MVPlaya]

You may now take your head out your ass...

[long beach bronco]

What a moron, we need help everywhere, and this kid will cure the return game and give Cutler the slot deep threat we've always wanted. I'm all for him coming to Denver. He's an electrifying player.

[watermock]

Tthe team took a step back. First we need to protect Cutler's blindside...I guess frontside ...I don't enjoy watching him bouncing his head off the turf...get him the new helmat next year.

[long beach bronco]

We can do that in free agency getting good OLine help, but for a draft pick to help us win right now, Ginn Jr. would be the ticket.

[shakenbake]

What a moron, we need help everywhere, and this kid will cure the return game and give Cutler the slot deep threat we've always wanted. I'm all for him coming to Denver. He's an electrifying player.

Who hasn't shown any major improvment from the day he arrived in columbus. He relies too much his physical talent which he has a lot of. However, that wont cut in the NFL.

[long beach bronco]

We'll see.

[DarkHorse]

Ginn Jr - is a GREAT College football player



So was Peter Warrick, and Desmond Howard - both of whom Ginn reminds me.

Walker, Marshall and Rod at #3 will be our receiving corp next year. I'm sure Rod knows how many years we've spent looking for that elusive #3 and now he's in perfect position to be that #3 which we could never find.

If he doesn't retire that is.

We need help on D-line, O-line, and a return specialist.

With Sheffler and Cutler having such a good relationship on the field we are pretty much set in the receiving dept.

[PLOWHORSE]

Mike Williams was supposedly the top receiver coming out of college...he looks lost in the NFL. Receiver is low on the list this offseason.

[OrangeShadow]

i dont want to become the colts,ie great offense no defense. We need to go pass rush and safety IMO.

[maven]

DL, RB, S, OL, CB are the top priorities this offseason.

[RocBronc]

I'd rather have Jarrett out of USC, but I don't see him getting to our pick.

[DarkHorse]

I wouldn't take a receiver in the first round. Too many busts for me to take a risk - i'd rather have that guy from the small school who puts up consistent numbers and has a small chip on his shoulder.

Ginn is not as good as advertised - College football is so much different than the Pros.

Lenny Walls would hand Ginn his ass on a platter.

[brother love]

Ginn will be gone by the time we pick!

[SoDak Bronco]

No thanks, we don't need to waste a pick a WR that cannot do anything but try and get to the corner. Denver goes d-line early and often in the draft. Unless we can somehow get Bush or Peterson.

[bendog]

besides we already have reciever who doesn't run routes and runs back kicks in Hixson.

[alkemical]

DL/OL/S/RB would be my priorities.

[SouthStndJunkie]

Ted Ginn Jr. will be a damn good pro.

He reminds me of Champ Bailey from an athletic standpoint.

[WABronco]

I wouldn't take a receiver in the first round. Too many busts for me to take a risk - i'd rather have that guy from the small school who puts up consistent numbers and has a small chip on his shoulder.

Ginn is not as good as advertised - College football is so much different than the Pros.

Lenny Walls would hand Ginn his ass on a platter.

It's statistically proven that taking a WR in the first is by far and away the best chance at landing a successful player. I'll try and find the numbers if I can, but the whole "1st round bust" thing is a myth.

All I care about in regards to Ginn:

FACT-he will be the returner from the start.

FACT-he will provide a legit deep threat.

FACT-he will bring a massive amount of physical potential to the WR corps.

Ginn will be a developmental player, that's pretty much a known fact as well. But he has the ability to make a great impact on multiple areas (kick/punt returns, designated field stretcher, probably even gunner) even as a developmental project-type player.

We should also consider the change implemented in our new offense--just try and remember how many 3 WR sets we ran when Cutler took over.

I know I won't complain if he's the pick.

DISCLAIMER-My facts are my facts and my facts only.

[Crushaholic]

We're set at WR, unless you just want to use Ginn as a punt returner. We need defensive line help...

[shakenbake]

Ted Ginn Jr. will be a damn good pro.

He reminds me of Champ Bailey from an athletic standpoint.


There is no doubt he is a Talent. However, I have heard his work ethic is less than to be desired. He hasn't even lived up to his hype in College how is he going to do that in the NFL. Again I may be wrong but I've heard he relies too much on his physical gifts. He is small at 6'0 180 I just don't see why you would draft him in the 1st round but hey thats me. Maybe he will change and put in more work once he becomes a pro.

[SoonerBronco]

Just do whatever you can to draft Adrian Peterson...when we actually have a feature back that can get through the line instead of hitting it and falling down, then you will see the pressure on Cutler decrease.

[DarkHorse]

Yeah, Desmond Howard and Peter Warrick had very similar styles to Ginn. I wouldn't use a 1st rnd pick on a return specialist/gunner with our holes. Pretty sure that Desmond won the Heisman too? And Peter Warrick - if anyone can remember, was a freaking STUD in college more so than Ginn I believe. Where is he now?

[shakenbake]

Just do whatever you can to draft Adrian Peterson...when we actually have a feature back that can get through the line instead of hitting it and falling down, then you will see the pressure on Cutler decrease.

I would love AD in Denver!

[Jens1893]

Just do whatever you can to draft Adrian Peterson...when we actually have a feature back that can get through the line instead of hitting it and falling down, then you will see the pressure on Cutler decrease.

If AD could stay healthy I´d understand you, but as he hasn´t proven he can, I´d prefer Marshawn.

And AD is a damn fine player, but I´m just concerned about his injury history.

[Clockwork Orange]

If Ginn is the BPA at #21, I'm all for it.

[SouthStndJunkie]

If Ginn is the BPA at #21, I'm all for it.

If Ginn declares, he will be gone before 21.

[Clockwork Orange]

If Ginn declares, he will be gone before 21.

Very possible, but stranger things have happened.

Either way, If they could land him in round 1, I'd be all for it. Marshawn Lynch is another I'd love to see in a Bronco uniform regardless of the screams that the Broncos should never take a RB in round 1.

[Jens1893]

Anyone heard anything about his ankle and how this may affect his pro status?

[defenseman]

No, but the guy has some major moves and speed out there as a return specialists/WR. Didn't know he was that fast till monday nite. He can flat out fly..dman

[PLOWHORSE]

It was a sprained foot. I'm no Dr., but he should be ok if he declares himself for the draft. I don't think he has yet.

[ukbroncosfan]

It was a sprained foot. I'm no Dr., but he should be ok if he declares himself for the draft. I don't think he has yet.

I have questions about his toughness for not going back in the game.

[PLOWHORSE]

I have questions about his toughness for not going back in the game.

The broadcasters were saying Ginn was fighting mad he was disallowed to go back in the game. Coaches and medical staffers said no.

[long beach bronco]

I want Ginn Jr. in round 1, i hope we address our Dline help in free agency. Ginn would be a instant deep threat and special teams demon.

[DomCasual]

Use this thread to talk about Teddy Ginn Jr.

Don't use the other threads.

My dream is to have a whole website with threads entitled Teddy Ginn Jr.

Now go take on the day.

[CBF1]

Lmao

[TheSportsGuru]

Ginn has more physical ability than Howard or Warrick. He's got world-class speed(tried out for the Olympic Team in '04) and is deadly with the ball.

Problem is he doesn't do a whole lot wothout it.

I don't think I would take him with a 1st round pick, though I would snag him up in the 2nd....

Chances are he won;t be there anyway and it's all a moot point.

[ukbroncosfan]

I have questions about Teddy Ginn Jr. toughness for not going back into the game.

[TheSportsGuru]

Kinda hard with a foot sprain, similar to the one that sat Strahan down for 6 weeks...

[Florida_Bronco]

besides we already have reciever who doesn't run routes and runs back kicks in Hixson.

???

[long beach bronco]

Stranger things have happened. We need a true gamebreaker on this offense, and with Cutler's arm and Ginn's speed, that would be a true match made in heaven. His return skills are off the charts.

[DomCasual]

I think we have more spirit than the other Teddy Ginn Jr. threads.

We should all start shouting, "We got spirit! Yes, we do! We got spirit! How 'bout you?" and see what happens.

[TheSportsGuru]

It's a foot sprain similar to the one Michael Strahan had this year.

He may need surgery, though they don't think so right now.

Dude was in a boot by the 4th quarter, I don;t think he could have played...

[DomCasual]

Teddy Ginn, Jr. EXCLUSIVE!

You won't find this in the other Teddy Ginn, Jr. threads.

Teddy Ginn' Jr's MySpace page (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=43470086).

Did you know that Teddy Ginn, Jr is an Aries? Did you know his hero is his dad? Did you know his favorite books are Sports Illustrated and Bucknuts (I'm serious - that's what he said)?

I didn't think so.

Nothing but the latest exclusive information in this Teddy Ginn, Jr. thread.

[chaz]

No, but the guy has some major moves and speed out there as a return specialists/WR. Didn't know he was that fast till monday nite. He can flat out fly..dman

ya he turned down an invitation to run the 04 olympic squad so he wouldnt miss ohio states training sessions if i remember correctly....dude has some crazy speed

[chaz]

Very possible, but stranger things have happened.

Either way, If they could land him in round 1, I'd be all for it. Marshawn Lynch is another I'd love to see in a Bronco uniform regardless of the screams that the Broncos should never take a RB in round 1.

I think all of the screams to not take a rd. 1 RB have been silenced this past season....it just isnt true anymore that we can plug anyone in and be successful.

Lynch is looking pretty good at 21 like you said!

[long beach bronco]

This kid would open up our offense so much and would change the face of our sorry special teams unit. It's going to be a hard decision for the coach, but what he doesnt get in free agency, he'll get in the draft.

[footstepsfrom#27]

A picture's worth a thousand words...need I say more?

http://cache.denverbroncos.com/resources/custom/Team/foster_mug.jpg

[long beach bronco]

We can get a good Olineman in free agency and later in the draft, i think Ginn is a can't miss prospect. He can help us right now.

[XXXII&III]

Teddy Ginn Jr's dad is Teddy Ginn Sr.

(just doing my part)

[Old Dude]

I would merge these things, but right now, I must do whatever DomCasual asks.

[Crushaholic]

Ginn makes Bruschi tremble...

[DomCasual]

Ginn makes Bruschi tremble...

No doubt! :strong:

[DomCasual]

Teddy Ginn Jr's dad is Teddy Ginn Sr.

(just doing my part)

See! I'm going to call that another thread EXCLUSIVE!

[Kaylore]

I have a question. I want to post about Teddy Ginn Jr. Should I post a new thread or post it here?

[long beach bronco]

It's Tedd Ginn Jr. day here on the mane. I sure hope we get him.

[DomCasual]

I would merge these things, but right now, I must do whatever DomCasual asks.

And if someone ever shoots at me in your service, you're going to owe me something - I don't know what yet, but it will be something really good. :)

[Jens1893]

Ted Ginn Jr. is black and wears #7

http://www.osu.edu/download/images/bowlgame/bigpics/fiesta06_07.jpg

[brncs_fan]

I asked my wife if Teddy Ginn Jr. would look good in orange and blue. She said, "huh?"

I guess it would depend on his eye color. Anyone know what his eye color is?

[long beach bronco]

We need to get this guy.

[DomCasual]

I have a question. I want to post about Teddy Ginn Jr. Should I post a new thread or post it here?

I've added it to the Teddy Ginn Jr. Thread FAQ:

Q: I want to post about Teddy Ginn Jr. Should I post a new thread or post it here?

A: Post it here. You should always used existing threads, whenever possible.

[long beach bronco]

He is a can't miss prospect in my opinion.

[DomCasual]

Ted Ginn Jr. is black and wears #7

http://www.osu.edu/download/images/bowlgame/bigpics/fiesta06_07.jpg

And he has the ability to make college kids in color-coordinated jumpsuits squeal with glee.

[Crushaholic]

Welcome to OrangeGinn.com...

[long beach bronco]

I've got Ginn on my mind today. Pull the trigger Shanny.

[Jens1893]

Dom´s thread > This thread

Suck it, bitch! :)

[shakenbake]

I heard he hurt is foot celebrating his touchdown last night.

[footstepsfrom#27]

We can get a good Olineman in free agency and later in the draft, i think Ginn is a can't miss prospect. He can help us right now.
There's no garauntee we get a GOOD OT to replace Foster, (or Lepsis too if he can't return) in free agency....and drafting some project later in the draft as our grand strategy to protect the key to our offense from getting his career ended early is lunacy. In exchange for what? A 3rd WR to line up in the slot? For all we know, Ginn might be no better than Hixon turns out to be. What's not to like about him anyway? He's got the size, speed, athleticism and prior successful experience returning kicks, played both ways in college and demonstrated the ability to pick up the WR position instantly with big time production. Barring further injury, he might just be next year's Brandon Marshal. We have massive holes in both lines, and no legit every down running back. Third receivers who only see the field during a few situations in a game and run back kicks are not worth a 1st round pick when we have all these other critical needs.

[Kaylore]

Great thread idea. :angel:

[crowebomber]

And he's got the multi-sport talent. Just imagine that hurdle is Ty Law.

[Mountain Bronco]

Long beach, are you Ginn's agent. The kid has speed, but that is it. He runs very poor routes, doesn't have work ethic etc... Not worth a first round pick. Plus Shanny has little success in drafting recievers in the first round. We have three quality recievers, no quality DLinemen. Draft Dline, not WR!!!

[KipCorrington25]

i dont want to become the colts,ie great offense no defense. We need to go pass rush and safety IMO.

You could have fooled me. They totally shut down that team they played last week. :spit:

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Welcome to OrangeGinn.com...

Orange Gin - You can sell half pints of that under the viaducts for a handfull of spare change.

[PLOWHORSE]

And he's got the multi-sport talent. Just imagine that hurdle is Ty Law.

Geezuzz he is schooling that poor white guy.

[long beach bronco]

If Shanny does go hard after Ginn in the draft, that will meen that he had taken care of the other glaring needs via free agency. I'm a big Ginn fan.

[alkemical]

Is he an athlete, or a football player?

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Now appears his foot was injured in the celebration after his TD

[JunkyardWillie]

Ginn Jr is the best WR prospect to come out of The Ohio State University since David Boston!

[Jens1893]

Now appears his foot was injured in the celebration after his TD

http://www.dispatch.com/2007/01/10/injury-300.jpg

[elpasojoe]

Wide receiver is not as much a priority as kick returner IMHO. In the latter rounds of day one, I do really hope that a local kid here in El Paso, Johnie Lee Higgins, will get some consideration as a draftee. He is a playmaking fool that later could develop into a decent No. 3 or 4 reciever.
Our starting field position sucked this year as is did three years ago. Remember, kick return capabilities was one of the reasons we drafted DWill (RIP) over some of the other KR. They would love him in Denver.

[DB84FAN]

I'd rather have Jarrett out of USC, but I don't see him getting to our pick.

who are you ? matt millen or his brother ?

[DB84FAN]

Ginn Jr is the best WR prospect to come out of The Ohio State University since David Boston!

nice joke. what did boston do ? he had a few decent years... and then ? where is he now ? what did he do in the last few.

potential is one thing.. which is what boston was about.... playing beyond his potential is what rod smith is about. we need a guy who will step up, we cant take one just because he has potential. willingness to play and acheive is what a young man should have. never give david boston and eric crouch and ryan leaf's as example in future

[bpc]

I love Higgins... i've been hyping him for months. Good call.

[anthonypacino]

I am a huge Ginn fan, as a Buckeye he has done everything and more that was asked of him. Although he never played WR until college (He was a DB in HS) He is still pretty raw at WR, with the right WR coach he has nothing but potentional, and if Watson couldn't turn around Watts I don't know if he could help this kid grow or not.. Almost the reverse of Chris Gamble who was a WR but because of the crowd at that spot they moved him to CB and he's excelling there in the NFL.
But the best WR on the team isn't Ginn, it's Anthony Gonzalez. He is almost just as fast, a far better receiver, route runner, he can handle kicks but he's not as explosive in that area as Ginn.
As much of a Buckeye fan as I am and I would love for some of those guys to make it to Denver, my choice for 1st round pick (if he's there) would be Lynch-RB from Cal. In the second I would be tempted to take Weddle-S from Utah although I want to see some more of him before I would launch on that pick.

[Jens1893]

I am a huge Ginn fan, as a Buckeye he has done everything and more that was asked of him. Although he never played WR until college (He was a DB in HS) He is still pretty raw at WR, with the right WR coach he has nothing but potentional, and if Watson couldn't turn around Watts I don't know if he could help this kid grow or not.. Almost the reverse of Chris Gamble who was a WR but because of the crowd at that spot they moved him to CB and he's excelling there in the NFL.
But the best WR on the team isn't Ginn, it's Anthony Gonzalez. He is almost just as fast, a far better receiver, route runner, he can handle kicks but he's not as explosive in that area as Ginn.
As much of a Buckeye fan as I am and I would love for some of those guys to make it to Denver, my choice for 1st round pick (if he's there) would be Lynch-RB from Cal. In the second I would be tempted to take Weddle-S from Utah although I want to see some more of him before I would launch on that pick.

Isnt Gonzalez thinking about going to law school at Stanford? Heard the guys talking about during the game v UF. He sure has the grades.

[Victor]

Teddy Ginn, Jr. EXCLUSIVE!

You won't find this in the other Teddy Ginn, Jr. threads.


Did you know that Teddy Ginn, Jr is an Aries?




I didn't know that.

[broncofan]

No thanks.

[anthonypacino]

Isnt Gonzalez thinking about going to law school at Stanford? Heard the guys talking about during the game v UF. He sure has the grades.

I have heard that going around, he filed the papers to "explore" what his Draft options would be but hasn't declared or decided anything yet, I would like to think he might go the way of some of the other Bucks like Greg Bellisari, Craig Krenzel (Draddy award winner) Bobby Hoying (Draddy award winner) and stay for a senior year and consider the NFL option. But I wouldn't hold anything against somebody for wanting to continue their education instead of pursuing the NFL.

ps. So far there has also been no word about Ginn declaring yet. I can only think 4 things: 1. He hurt his ankle worse than anyone knows. 2. His Dad is a coach, he team just lost the biggest game of his career and he wants to vindicate. 3. His Draft stock is slipping with Calvin Johnson, Dwayne Jarrett coming out. 4. I have no clue and he might call a press conference tomorrow..

[rubaiyat]

DL/OL/S/RB would be my priorities.

I agree...though given the degree of needs we might want to spread it out over two years. The likelihood of finding difference makers in S and RB in the latter rounds is obviously lower. I'd wait to next year on some needs with high picks and just go all out on the lines this year as we could use a lot of bodies to sift out the best.

Kinda like with the CB's of two years ago.

[Jens1893]

I have heard that going around, he filed the papers to "explore" what his Draft options would be but hasn't declared or decided anything yet, I would like to think he might go the way of some of the other Bucks like Greg Bellisari, Craig Krenzel (Draddy award winner) Bobby Hoying (Draddy award winner) and stay for a senior year and consider the NFL option. But I wouldn't hold anything against somebody for wanting to continue their education instead of pursuing the NFL.

ps. So far there has also been no word about Ginn declaring yet. I can only think 4 things: 1. He hurt his ankle worse than anyone knows. 2. His Dad is a coach, he team just lost the biggest game of his career and he wants to vindicate. 3. His Draft stock is slipping with Calvin Johnson, Dwayne Jarrett coming out. 4. I have no clue and he might call a press conference tomorrow..

It´s probably #4 ;)

Unless his ankle is seriously injured I think he´s gone. What does he have to gain from coming back (if his ankle is ok, of course, if the injury is serious he´d be stupid to declare)? OSU just blew their load, probably won´t be in contention for the MNC and possibly even the Big Ten (Michigan and Wisconsin look good) and his QB is gone also. He´s a first rounder right now and I don´t really see him improving his stock too much next season if he comes back.

Who´s gonna be the QB for OSU next season?

[anthonypacino]

It´s probably #4 ;)

Unless his ankle is seriously injured I think he´s gone. What does he have to gain from coming back (if his ankle is ok, of course, if the injury is serious he´d be stupid to declare)? OSU just blew their load, probably won´t be in contention for the MNC and possibly even the Big Ten (Michigan and Wisconsin look good) and his QB is gone also. He´s a first rounder right now and I don´t really see him improving his stock too much next season if he comes back.

Who´s gonna be the QB for OSU next season?

I think it's gonna be redshirt freshman Antonio Henton, word is he is a Troy Smith clone only more polished (at that stage in their career) and he is taller. I have mixed feelings about Wisconsin, Pat Hill was awesome as a freshman but they are losing Stocco and their STUD O-lineman, Michigan will be tough once again and here's something I saw...The next stud HS QB coming out isn't going to be Jimmy Clausen (ND) it's gonna be Ryan Mallett 6'6 235 he's going to Michigan and he spells big trouble for my Buckeyes over the next four years.

[NFLBRONCO]

I'd rather use #1 pick on DL S but, I do think Denver might consider Ginn. Our ST's suck we need a threat here as well as a speed guy at WR.

If Denver spends money in FA on DL I could easily see Denver going another direction in the draft in round 1.

[alkemical]

I'd rather take the kid from UTEP

[anthonypacino]

Well Gonzo has already declared, Pittman will be making his decision public on Sat at his old High School and I talked to a fellow OSU fan who told me that more than likely Ted Ginn will declare this weekend without a press conference. He will be wearing the boot on his foot for awhile it's just a severley sprained ankle.

[long beach bronco]

I guess from all the rumors is that Ginn is highly targeted by Shanny and O'brien. I guess we'll be hearing alot of Ginn talk for the next week. I really hope he drops to us at #21, this kid is really going to open up our offense and our special teams. Kill two birds with one stone. Ginn is the pick.

[chaz]

If you want a WR from tOSU go with Gonzales.

agreed...i think gonzales will be the better pro...plus he wont take a first round draft pick to get.

[long beach bronco]

I still wouldn't be upset if Ginn was the pick.

[Kaylore]

I still wouldn't be upset if Ginn was the pick.

I would become death incarnate.

[long beach bronco]

LOL, whatever happens, happens, we all have to live with it. I just hope it's a great day tomorrow, we've all been really looking forward to this.