Fire Heimerdinger NOW!!

[BroncoInferno]

The offensive play calling was absolutely atrocious. Why did we not have Cutler in shotgun on long yardage situations?? He is clearly better in those situations, yet Dinger's sorry ass insisted on under center quick drops resulting in predictable batted passes. His play calling was abyssmal all season...get his ass out of here!!

[BroncoInferno]

I'm not worried about Coyer...he doesn't have the horses up front to work with. Dinger doesn't have a goddam excuse for his ****tiness. Why, again, was Cutler not in shotgun on obvious passing situations?? we've already seen how the quick drops pay off in the Seattle game. Fck you Dinger, you sorry piece of crap!

[telluride]

This was a piss poor year for playcalling.

[BroncoInferno]

I mean, seriously, what the hell did Dinger ever do for the Jets? They were never better than mediocre. The guy has never done a goddam thing, and loses this game with absolutely pathetic calls. I want Shanny to take over all playcalling. Fck Dinger and any other potential hires. Shanny is the best, take over and stop fcking around with the DL while you're at it.

[wolverine]

Who is Dinger anyway? I We see shots of Coyer (and Kubes when he was here) but I'm damned if I can tell you what Dinger even looks like. I'm beginning to wonder if he exists.

[wolverine]

Who the hell is Dinger anyway? We see shots of Coyer all the time (and Kubes when he was here) but I'm damned if I can tell you what Dinger even looks like. I'm beginning to wonder if he exists.

[minibronco]

I thought dinger didn't call plays.... he was "offensive c" in name but I believe shanny made all of the calls...

[long beach bronco]

Shanny allowed both Dinger and Coyer to make all these stupid game plans all year. He's to blame also. What get's me is why we ran a 4-3 preseason vanilla defense all year and expected results. This coaching staff is old and set in their ways. We need new bloold, guys who are going to come in and attack instead of lay back watch. Our coaching gets an F+ after going 2-5 down the stretch.

[rbackfactory80]

The offensive play calling was absolutely atrocious. Why did we not have Cutler in shotgun on long yardage situations?? He is clearly better in those situations, yet Dinger's sorry ass insisted on under center quick drops resulting in predictable batted passes. His play calling was abyssmal all season...get his ass out of here!!

How can you think Shanahan is not somewhat responsible for the play calling. Yeah he is just sits there like you and thinks boy the play calling sucks but fails to do anything about it.

[DBroncos4life]

Yes he sucks

[x123z]

I wish I knew how much he is to blame. There is enought to go around.

[Hulamau]

I agree BI, if Dinger is to blame, which he at least shares. This was TERRIBLE play calling and when we had to do it they opened Cutler up and he drives right down the field for a clutch come from behind TD. Then in overtime they go all tentative and try not to lose again instead of attacking and we piss it all away. IDIOTS!

And the O-line blocking schemes don't work with this group of has beens and also rans and we need a total overhaul there and a RB that can HOLD on to teh damn ball and doesn'tfall down when he sees the kine of scrimmage. Tatum killed those first two should have been scoring drives. with hsi no yard runs.

[oubronco]

shanahans playcalling is so predictable that the whole league knows them especially the running plays i wish he would turn the fuggin page in his playbook

[BleedingOrange]

I'd give Dinger another season and see what he can do with his starting left tackle, a replacement for Foster and the kids with a full off season to get comfortable.

[Sodak]

Who would be available in the offseason? Some one young? Gruden?

[bloodsunday]

The whole Shanny/Dinger/Dennison tripod seemed to be a problem to me. It might be time to go outside and get some help. I am not overly impressed with our OL play as of late either.

[watermock]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

WTF was that gameplan?

It was pathetic on both sides of the ball.

Everything statisticaly says we should of won that game.

[watermock]

Two things stand out. Third down conversions the most. This is the same BS Coyer has thrown on us last year against Pitt, and against Indy, Seattle and last week.

I'm so tired of Coyer layiig down. WTF happened to the rollout at the goal line?

[cabronco]

Our playcalling has sucked balls for a few years now. It is so predictable it seemed like defenses know what we're going to do. I to would also know why Shanahan has to flip thru his dam page book so many times, like its his first time seeing it. It almost looks like he's panicking..

[BroncoInferno]

How can you think Shanahan is not somewhat responsible for the play calling. Yeah he is just sits there like you and thinks boy the play calling sucks but fails to do anything about it.

Shanny is like most head coaches and tries to delegate play calling responsibilities to alleviate his own responsibilities. When he had Kubes that was all well and good. Unfortunately, now he put his trust in the wrong motherfcker. I'd just assume Shanny take over all playcalling responsibilities next season.

[BroncoInferno]

I agree BI, if Dinger is to blame, which he at least shares. This was TERRIBLE play calling and when we had to do it they opened Cutler up and he drives right down the field for a clutch come from behind TD. Then in overtime they go all tentative and try not to lose again instead of attacking and we piss it all away. IDIOTS!

And the O-line blocking schemes don't work with this group of has beens and also rans and we need a total overhaul there and a RB that can HOLD on to teh damn ball and doesn'tfall down when he sees the kine of scrimmage. Tatum killed those first two should have been scoring drives. with hsi no yard runs.

The thing that was so dumb is that we've all seen that Cutler functions much better at this point out of shotgun in obvious passing situations, yet in 3rd and long they are still lining up under center throwing quick passes that we saw batted down four games ago. WHAT THE FCK!! PLAY TO YOUR PLAYERS STRENGTHS YOU DUMB BASTARD!

[BroncoMatt]

Dinger isn't going anywhere I'm afraid. You know those pictures that Dennison has that keeps his job? Maybe Shanny and his roommate from college...

[cabronco]

Ya its Dennison that needs to take a hike out of town. Shanahan isnt going to pull the trigger on H-dinger just yet.

[Crushaholic]

How the hell do you start 1st and goal from the 1 and 1st and goal from the 3and get a field goal both times?! It's unbelievable how bad the playcalling was...

[Play2win]

The offensive play calling was absolutely atrocious. Why did we not have Cutler in shotgun on long yardage situations?? He is clearly better in those situations, yet Dinger's sorry ass insisted on under center quick drops resulting in predictable batted passes. His play calling was abyssmal all season...get his ass out of here!!

FCK U

Time takes TIME

[DomCasual]

It's pretty hard on a young QB to switch OCs between year one and year two. If for no other reason, I would keep him around for that. Cutler needs to make a big jump next year.

[Killericon]

Who to replace him?

[errand]

Somewhere in Texas, Gary Kubiak is humming "How do you like me now" by Toby Keith

[Atlas]

The offensive play calling was absolutely atrocious. Why did we not have Cutler in shotgun on long yardage situations?? He is clearly better in those situations, yet Dinger's sorry ass insisted on under center quick drops resulting in predictable batted passes. His play calling was abyssmal all season...get his ass out of here!!

great thread......???

Shanny has been calling the plays.

Nothing wrong with the play calling. Did Shanny call a play where the OL wasn't suppossed to block?
Did Shanny call a play where Cutler was suppossed to throw a duck up in the air and have it int.??

Your whole basis for this is that Denver didn't utlize the shotgun?? THat's pretty lame.

[elsid13]

great thread......???

Shanny has been calling the plays.

Nothing wrong with the play calling. Did Shanny call a play where the OL wasn't suppossed to block?
Did Shanny call a play where Cutler was suppossed to throw a duck up in the air and have it int.??

Your whole basis for this is that Denver didn't utlize the shotgun?? THat's pretty lame.

No he (Dinger) didn't make those plays happen. But he can be blamed for going away from the running game to much this year. This team was ball control team, and Dinger and Shanahan continue to throw the ball, instead of trusting the rushing attack, this is the 3rd or 4th game were we continue abandon the rushing attempts when Denver was ahead in the second half or in close game.

[Atlas]

No he (Dinger) didn't make those plays happen. But he can be blamed for going away from the running game to much this year. This team was ball control team, and Dinger and Shanahan continue to throw the ball, instead of trusting the rushing attack, this is the 3rd or 4th game were we continue abandon the rushing attempts when Denver was ahead in the second half or in close game.

Did you watch the game? The running game wasn't working. Take away M. Bell's big run and they ave 3 yards per carry.

Plus the 49ers have one of the worst pass defenses in the league. That is why Denver passed a lot.

The play calling didn't lose the game, poor execution did. Besides why fire Dinge if Shanny is calling the plays???

[BroncoInferno]

So, do the coaches bare no responsibility when the players don't play well, Atlas? That seems to be what you're saying. It wasn't just this one game. This offense has been the worst since Shanny came to town (I'd field arguments in favor of the '99 or '01 offenses). Something about this arrangement needs to change.

[BroncoInferno]

How do you know Shanny is calling thew plays, Atlas? Are you just making an assumption?

[elsid13]

Did you watch the game? The running game wasn't working. Take away M. Bell's big run and they ave 3 yards per carry.

Plus the 49ers are have one of the worst pass defenses in the league. That is why Denver passed a lot.

The play calling didn't lose the game, poor execution did. Besides why fire Dinge if Shanny is calling the plays???

I did watch the game and was yelling at the TV run the f'ing ball. You need to stick with the run even wasn't it not working early. Eventual you wear the other team out. The way the play calling work, Dinger radio the play to Shanny, he decide he like it or to change it, then Shanahan radios it into the QB. that was from newspaper article earlier this season

[Atlas]

So, do the coaches bare no responsibility when the players don't play well, Atlas? That seems to be what you're saying. It wasn't just this one game. This offense has been the worst since Shanny came to town (I'd field arguments in favor of the '99 or '01 offenses). Something about this arrangement needs to change.

The thread's title is fire Dinger. Then the only reason you have for firing him is that Denver wasn't in the shotgun. THat's not much of a reason. Plus everything starts with Shanny, not dinger.

You said Dinger's play calling was bad all year but yet didn't you notice that Shanny had his glasses on the sideline all year, he was looking through the plays for Cutler. Why do you want to fire Dinger??

[Atlas]

I did watch the game and was yelling at the TV run the f'ing ball. You need to stick with the run even wasn't it not working early. Eventual you wear the other team out. The way the play calling work, Dinger radio the play to Shanny, he decide he like it or to change it, then Shanahan radios it into the QB. that was from newspaper article earlier this season


The 49 ers were stopping the run. If you run on 1st and 10 and gain 1 yard then your putting your rookie QB at 2nd and long.
The 49ers pass defense is one of the worst in the league. The plays were called correctly, executions was not. IMO.

[bronco6maniac84]

coyer is terrible.. his pass defensive scheme in the 4th and overtime were the same stupid stuff we saw the last drive against cincinnati. soft zone that let them march right downt he field. and once again no pressure..

the offensive playcalling was NOT bad.. our offensive line was terrible.. we couldnt run and cutler was getting pressured all day long... its Larry Coyer that needs to go!

[orinjkrush]

we all need to sit down and take a deep cleansing breath.
there have been consistent problems over one, two, three and four years.
shanny is pretty ruthless about making player changes.
he is NOT that way about making coaching changes.
We shall see what shanny will do. He WILL do something.

[DenverBrit]

Did you watch the game? The running game wasn't working. Take away M. Bell's big run and they ave 3 yards per carry.

Plus the 49ers have one of the worst pass defenses in the league. That is why Denver passed a lot.

The play calling didn't lose the game, poor execution did. Besides why fire Dinge if Shanny is calling the plays???

That about sums it up.
Inside the five, and coming away with 3 points each time.
Had the O done it's job in the red-zone, we would all be having a different
conversation this morning.

[dsmoot]

I mean, seriously, what the hell did Dinger ever do for the Jets? They were never better than mediocre. The guy has never done a goddam thing, and loses this game with absolutely pathetic calls. I want Shanny to take over all playcalling. Fck Dinger and any other potential hires. Shanny is the best, take over and stop fcking around with the DL while you're at it.

How do you know how much latitude Dinger has in calling plays. By watching the sideline, you see Shanahan calling in the plays to the QB. You absolutely cannot tell what percentage is Dinger and what is Shanahan. What a stupid thread.

[Gort]

Shanny could learn something from Brian Billick. after 6 games, the Ravens were sitting at 4-2, but had only scored 10 offensive TDs. basically, their playcalling was killing them and their offense was sputtering badly. when it became clear to Billick that his job was actually in jeopardy pending the results of the 2006 season, he fired Fassel (his good friend) and assumed the playcalling responsiblity himself. the Ravens finished with 9 wins in their final 10 games with a much more competent offense.

if Shanny had to worry about his job, he might not be so tolerant of coordinators and coaches who were not getting the job done. 9-7 should be an intolerable result for this franchise.

[yavoon]

Shanny could learn something from Brian Billick. after 6 games, the Ravens were sitting at 4-2, but had only scored 10 offensive TDs. basically, their playcalling was killing them and their offense was sputtering badly. when it became clear to Billick that his job was actually in jeopardy pending the results of the 2006 season, he fired Fassel (his good friend) and assumed the playcalling responsiblity himself. the Ravens finished with 9 wins in their final 10 games with a much more competent offense.

if Shanny had to worry about his job, he might not be so tolerant of coordinators and coaches who were not getting the job done. 9-7 should be an intolerable result for this franchise.

'intolerable' haha. well why dont we fire the coach every year if he doesn't do 9-7 or better? that'd put some heat under the seat!

[Gort]

'intolerable' haha. well why dont we fire the coach every year if he doesn't do 9-7 or better? that'd put some heat under the seat!

the point is it should be intolerable to Shanny to finish at 9-7 and his coaches and coordinators should be accountable. repeated poor performances year after year, and it should become intolerable to Bowlen, and then Shanny should be accountable.

if you're happy with 9-7, then you should go be a Chiefs fan.

[yavoon]

the point is it should be intolerable to Shanny to finish at 9-7 and his coaches and coordinators should be accountable. repeated poor performances year after year, and it should become intolerable to Bowlen, and then Shanny should be accountable.

if you're happy with 9-7, then you should go be a Chiefs fan.

I suppose I"m not 'happy' w/ anything but a superbowl. but its all kind of a silly point/stance. ok, u find it intolerable, aren't u the wanter of excellence, go u. we were 13-3 last year, the broncos haven't sucked in a long time, and ppl making posts like this just shows how spoiled everyone is.

never let what is intolerable get in the way of what is smart:).

[Gort]

i don't take responsibility for what other people post on other threads, so don't try to stick those words on me. i didn't post that the Broncos suck. if you have issues with that, go take it up with whomever posted it.

what i did post was that Shanny needs to take action with his coaching staff if he wants to avoid a similar outcome in 2007. there are problems in all 3 phases on this team. a 9-7 record for a team that was expected to contend for the superbowl by Shanny's own admission, should be intolerable. if the coaching is part of the problem (and many people think this to be the case), then it needs to be addressed.

[Cito Pelon]

That about sums it up.
Inside the five, and coming away with 3 points each time.
Had the O done it's job in the red-zone, we would all be having a different
conversation this morning.

Maybe the staff was trying to get MB a TD record for undrafted rookies. Too bad it didn't work out. Would have been nice to see, in several fashions.

[BroncoInferno]

How do you know how much latitude Dinger has in calling plays. By watching the sideline, you see Shanahan calling in the plays to the QB. You absolutely cannot tell what percentage is Dinger and what is Shanahan. What a stupid thread.

Dinger calls 79.2% of the plays. I've been tracking it all season on my CB. Fire him.

[yavoon]

i don't take responsibility for what other people post on other threads, so don't try to stick those words on me. i didn't post that the Broncos suck. if you have issues with that, go take it up with whomever posted it.

what i did post was that Shanny needs to take action with his coaching staff if he wants to avoid a similar outcome in 2007. there are problems in all 3 phases on this team. a 9-7 record for a team that was expected to contend for the superbowl by Shanny's own admission, should be intolerable. if the coaching is part of the problem (and many people think this to be the case), then it needs to be addressed.

9-7 w/ our offensive rookies is intolerable? when u first posted u just said flatly 9-7 was intolerable, leaving no interpolation for it being specifically intolerable this year but possibly tolerable other years. but at any rate its all the same thing. the raiders did this song and dance for a while, commitment to excellence or something or other?

I'd rather make solid smart decisions and show patience like pitt then have a frenetic ass grabbing contest based upon some perceived intolerance of failure.

[elsid13]

Maybe the staff was trying to get MB a TD record for undrafted rookies. Too bad it didn't work out. Would have been nice to see, in several fashions.

No what my favorite call was inside the 5. When the called a trap play had Hamilton (I think) pulling from the other side. Hamilton falls flat on his face and the DT and LB had clean shots on Mike Bell. I was surprise that he held onto the ball. But it least it was better when Carlie and Foster stepped aside and let Young smash Bell on dive play. Mental errors on the line get your QB and RBs drilled in the back field.

I just feel that Alex Gibbs wouldn't let those mental mistakes happen.

[elsid13]

Maybe the staff was trying to get MB a TD record for undrafted rookies. Too bad it didn't work out. Would have been nice to see, in several fashions.

Know what my favorite call was inside the 5. When the coachin staff called a trap play and had Hamilton (I think) pulling from the other side. Hamilton falls flat on his face and the DT and LB had clean shots on Mike Bell. I was surprise that he held onto the ball. But it least it was better when Carlie and Foster stepped aside and let Young smash Bell on dive play. Mental errors on the line get your QB and RBs drilled in the back field.

I just feel that Alex Gibbs wouldn't let those mental mistakes happen.

[elsid13]

Maybe the staff was trying to get MB a TD record for undrafted rookies. Too bad it didn't work out. Would have been nice to see, in several fashions.

Know what my favorite call was inside the 5. When the coachin staff called a trap play and had Hamilton (I think) pulling from the other side. Hamilton falls flat on his face and the DT and LB had clean shots on Mike Bell. I was surprise that he held onto the ball. But it least it was better when Carlie and Foster stepped aside and let Young smash Bell on dive play. Mental errors on the line get your QB and RBs drilled in the back field.

I just feel that Alex Gibbs wouldn't let those mental mistakes happen.

[Barry Ramey]

Shanahan is the guy in charge with the playcalling and it's been mediocre at best much of the season. Sometimes, make that many times, I think Shanahan outsmarts himself more than anything.

And the defense has been sit back and react rather than dictate and we have seen the results. Sure, works against horrid offenses, but the good ones just go through it without much problem.

[watermock]

Shanahan will sit down tuesday and the team will have some prayers for DWill. Then he will sit down and look at every aspect of this team.

[elsid13]

funny thing is, less then a year ago folks wanted Kubes gone to get some "new" ideas into the offense.

I really think we need a dedicated line coach, there has been to many mental errors there all year.

[DBroncos4life]

who is out there right now?

[Garcia Bronco]

Dinger effing sucks....I hate the fact that he squirmed his way back

[elsid13]

Dinger effing sucks....I hate the fact that he squirmed his way back

I will give him (Dinger) a year, but Dennison and the line play is absolute joke at this point.

[Garcia Bronco]

I will give him (Dinger) a year, but Dennison and the line play is absolute joke at this point.

The line play would be fine if we had a RT that plays football.

[elsid13]

The line play would be fine if we had a RT that plays football.

Dude yesterday, I saw more miss assignment and lack of will from everyone on the line.