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Kaylore
12-27-2006, 04:30 AM
To reunite Dumervil with his old companion on the line?

I'm talking about Amobi Okoye, the DT from Louisville. He's 6-2, 315 pounds of nasty and and could be that physical presence in the middle we need. Best of all, we could put him with a guy that he already knows how to work with so there would be some chemistry right out of the shoot!

I think he could be there by the time we pick (unless I'm mistaken).

What do you guys think?

-Slap-
12-27-2006, 08:53 AM
He seems to be rocketing up draft boards.

Billy Clyde Puckett
12-27-2006, 11:11 AM
Plus he is only 19 years old and has graduated. Smart kid who has his head on straight.

elsid13
12-27-2006, 01:10 PM
Smart kid that showed a lot of self discipline. He felt he was to heavy and sluggish at end of last year, so he went on diet- off junk food- and stop eating after 0800 o'clock. That darn hard to do when you're at college.

I think he down to 300 pounds now.

elsid13
12-27-2006, 04:25 PM
If we really want to resign Myers, which has been reported a few times, I can't see them going DT in Round 1 or 2, when you already have Warren signed to that big contract, and Veal and Myers also back in the fold with new deals. Veal's is pretty cheap, but Myers may get a moderately sized deal. After that, I don't think you can make another large investment at DT (even though we DO need it), otherwise we'd be overinvested at one position, like we already are at LB, and that will hurt us in other places.


I not following your logic there. If Myers resigns it going to be a one to two year deal and isn't going to be a big pay out. With only 3 DT currently on the roster, adding another one to the mix isn't an overinvestment in any sense. Especial if late first or second rounder.

elsid13
12-27-2006, 06:17 PM
There is no way Myers is getting that size of contract or that length. The guy only making about 1.3 this year and I strongly expect something similar.

The only place we don't have any youth is at defense line and safety both places will be address this off season.

Kaylore
12-27-2006, 06:57 PM
The other thing to consider is that we aren't very good up front and Shanahan has shown that he doesn't really care where we've put our money if we can upgrade at that position. Plummer is the most obvious example of this. I hope that Warren's inconsistency is just his bad toe, but if it's not, we really need to lay an anchor down in the middle of our line.

Elway777
12-29-2006, 01:56 AM
I really like Okoye and would not mind the Broncos use a first round pick on him.He had a great year with 48 tackles and 6 sacks and could help the broncos produce a interior pass rush.The Broncos need to carry 4 dt and Myers should not cost more then 2 million a year.

Polster60
12-29-2006, 04:05 PM
I don't think we have nearly enough resources invested at the position. Besides Warren who else is making massive amounts of money? Look at Jacksonville, Chicago, San Diego, Balt. All of those teams have focused heavily on D-Line. They are also the best defensive teams in the NFL. It all starts in the trenches. Okoye is exactly the type of DT that I like; disruptive, strong, aggressive, and smart.

Kaylore
01-01-2007, 06:48 AM
I don't think we have nearly enough resources invested at the position. Besides Warren who else is making massive amounts of money? Look at Jacksonville, Chicago, San Diego, Balt. All of those teams have focused heavily on D-Line. They are also the best defensive teams in the NFL. It all starts in the trenches. Okoye is exactly the type of DT that I like; disruptive, strong, aggressive, and smart.

It does start at the line and for the life of me I don't understand why this is something that Shanahan has forgotten. If you can't win up front, everything else doesn't matter.

Ray Finkle
01-03-2007, 07:58 PM
It does start at the line and for the life of me I don't understand why this is something that Shanahan has forgotten. If you can't win up front, everything else doesn't matter.

I think he will gone before the 21st pick though....

OrangeShadow
01-03-2007, 08:13 PM
i really like the aspect of him and elvis already having that chemistry from playing at louisville. Chemistry is the thing that takes the longest to build in the NFL and for them to already have it out of the gate i think would be a huge advantage.

Rascal
01-03-2007, 08:39 PM
It wouldn't suprise me to see Shanny take Lynch at 21 if he is available. That's where Maroney wen't last year and Shanny wanted him.

Arkansas Bronco
01-03-2007, 09:36 PM
This is pretty homeristic of me but a kid named Keith Jackson Jr. @ Arkansas has impressed me some. He is a bit short but I seen him making alot of plays this year and can probably be had in the 3rd or 4rth.

Arkansas Bronco
01-03-2007, 09:37 PM
It wouldn't suprise me to see Shanny take Lynch at 21 if he is available. That's where Maroney wen't last year and Shanny wanted him.

Id bet after Lynch works out his stock will probably go up only good thing is alot of teams below us have more glaring holes then at RB.

chaz
01-04-2007, 02:38 AM
This is pretty homeristic of me but a kid named Keith Jackson Jr. @ Arkansas has impressed me some. He is a bit short but I seen him making alot of plays this year and can probably be had in the 3rd or 4rth.

got any info on him?

Requiem
01-04-2007, 02:59 PM
Okoye should be around by the time we pick in the first but I think it's unlikely we address DT that eary. . .

SpringStein
01-04-2007, 05:13 PM
Okoye should be around by the time we pick in the first but I think it's unlikely we address DT that eary. . .

I'm guessing he goes in the 15-18 area. Lots of upside, and already a player at 19 years old.

Requiem
01-04-2007, 05:39 PM
I thought we were picking in that area; but it seems like we're 20/21 depending on how the Giants finish? Oh well.

I actually like that spot; it's not too bad; there should be good value at multiple positions of need around there and if need be that extra pick can help us if we feel the need to trade up; but the crappy thing is that drop-off from 20 to 21 is "50" points which sort of sucks.

With Darrent's tragedy, the Broncos need to hang onto picks. I think Paymah and Foxworth will step up their play; but I wouldn't be surprised if the Broncos drafted a CB with return skills to add depth to the CB squad. We only have three active guys; some tweeners, but ugh.

chaz
01-04-2007, 05:47 PM
Okoye should be around by the time we pick in the first but I think it's unlikely we address DT that eary. . .

i think it is a very good possibility...clogging up the middle gets one on one matchups on the outside, causing a better pass rush just like improving at the DE position would do just in a different way

mattob14
01-04-2007, 07:01 PM
Okoye should be around by the time we pick in the first but I think it's unlikely we address DT that eary. . .

Out of curiosity, which direction do you think we'll go then? I see a lot of needs, but no glaring weakness that stands out from the crowd. It's too early for OT, WR, and CB (assuming Foxworth steps in as a starter). I think safety is deep enough, we could get equal value in the second, unless Nelson or Landry somehow fall. That leaves RB (which I would prefer to see addressed later) and DL. If Lynch and Peterson are gone, Okoye should be as good as any prospect on the board. I guess a trade down would be a possibility, but I really think Okoye has a chance to be a difference-maker.

elsid13
01-04-2007, 08:01 PM
I expect that we don't draft DT- I strongly expect that the go after a safety like Nelson or Landry. Which mean we're drafting a corner.

Requiem
01-04-2007, 08:15 PM
Out of curiosity, which direction do you think we'll go then? I see a lot of needs, but no glaring weakness that stands out from the crowd. It's too early for OT, WR, and CB (assuming Foxworth steps in as a starter). I think safety is deep enough, we could get equal value in the second, unless Nelson or Landry somehow fall. That leaves RB (which I would prefer to see addressed later) and DL. If Lynch and Peterson are gone, Okoye should be as good as any prospect on the board. I guess a trade down would be a possibility, but I really think Okoye has a chance to be a difference-maker.

I'm really not sure man.

Goodman, former scouting director, (now head of Player Personnel) said the Broncos look for three things when making a selection, especially in regards to the first round.

Goodman said. . .

The determining factors in a first-round player to me are:

No. 1, Is he an impact player? A player right now, like D.J. Williams.

No. 2, Will the guy be a starter for you and what area will he be a starter for you?

Will he be a special-teams starter or an every-down starter?

With that said. . . it could be just about any position. . . ;)

I feel that the Broncos will go for a defensive lineman if they stand pat at #21 right now; but if an impact player on offense slips and is within the area of trading up; they'll take him.

mattob14
01-04-2007, 10:49 PM
I do think they'll be active. The talent this year is similar to last year in that it's deep and the value's in the middle rounds. That said, unless they're targeting someone specific, like Cutler last year, I wouldn't be surprised to see a trade down and accumulation of more picks.

Dedhed
01-04-2007, 11:42 PM
I think we're lacking talent at DT more than any other position. I think Okoye would be a great fit.