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DomCasual
12-24-2006, 02:52 AM
28 rushes next week against the Jaguars, and Larry Johnson will set the NFL record for most rushes in a season.

This leads me to an observation, and a question:

The observation: I wonder if Larry will appreciate the way his black coach has treated him in two or three years;

which leads to the question: If you were an orthopedic surgeon specializing in microfracture surgery, would you be proactive in calling LJ right now, or would you wait until he called you?

Because I am pretty sure that this is what you would see if you x-rayed LJ's knees (either one) right now:

http://www.practicespot.com/images/photos/bomb2.jpg

24champ
12-24-2006, 02:56 AM
If LJ were a car and you were thinking of buying it...would you rather get the warranty for 100,000 miles or 2 years?

watermock
12-24-2006, 03:01 AM
I allready commented.

I don't know if you were here when I went postal about running Portis a 38th time when we were in close field goal range.

He tore his MCL and was out two weeks but limped into the playoffs and couldn't even run against Indy. Bobo can talk about yardage total. Anyone with any sense knows that backs have a limited shelf life. 440 carries is absurd and would set a record.

We worked TD hard but never for that many carries, not even close. He ran for 392 so he was worked hard, but he gained 5.1 per carry in his 2000 yard year and was put in the shed.

Diaper Boy is averaging 4.3 ypc. They can run him into the ground for all I care.

footstepsfrom#27
12-24-2006, 03:35 AM
28 rushes next week against the Jaguars, and Larry Johnson will set the NFL record for most rushes in a season.

This leads me to an observation, and a question:

The observation: I wonder if Larry will appreciate the way his black coach has treated him in two or three years;

which leads to the question: If you were an orthopedic surgeon specializing in microfracture surgery, would you be proactive in calling LJ right now, or would you wait until he called you?

Because I am pretty sure that this is what you would see if you x-rayed LJ's knees (either one) right now:

http://www.practicespot.com/images/photos/bomb2.jpg
We have one race thread. Why do we need another? The issues of LJ's carries has been brought up elsehwere already, including a thread by Bob.

Bob's your Information Minister
12-24-2006, 03:39 AM
Larry Johnson is an iron horse. He will be one of the few NFL running backs to carry the ball 400 times and not break down in the next season. He is a stud.

HE'S JUST GETTING WARMED UP.

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/3453/ljpats2pw8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Bob's your Information Minister
12-24-2006, 03:41 AM
440 carries is absurd .

So are you. Larry will have about 412 carries, maybe 413.

Bob's your Information Minister
12-24-2006, 03:41 AM
We should really rename this forum the "The Larry Mane."

watermock
12-24-2006, 03:48 AM
Really dimwit?...He has 417 touches from the LOS.

I bet he has over 440 touches from scrimmage.

Does he still get tackled on a short pass Bobo?

Actually if he touches the ball 31 times again next week he will have 448 times he's been tackled this year...I imagine he's walked into the end zone a few times, but they are still touches. Reality sucks huh Bobo.

DomCasual
12-24-2006, 04:18 AM
We have one race thread. Why do we need another? The issues of LJ's carries has been brought up elsehwere already, including a thread by Bob.

I'm sure you'll survive.

MO<1>
12-24-2006, 04:25 AM
don't Chef fans have somewhere else to post?
:chiefssux

Kaylore
12-24-2006, 04:26 AM
Just for perspective here is a list of the top three record holders for carries in a season and what happened to them


http://archive.profootballweekly.com/content/archives/images/janderson.jpg
1. Jamal Anderson. We all remember him I'm sure. Very comparable to LJ. He didn't start his first two years (sound familiar?) and really only got going his third year. In his fifth year He hit the magic mark in 1998 on 410 rushes, 1846 yards and went to the Super Bowl. The following year he was injured. The year later he came back and barely managed to get to 1000 with a 3.5 yard per carry average. He was out of football the following year. Shelf life: 3 good years

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/news/2001/02/12/sayitaintso_buccaneers/t1_wilder_all.jpg
2. James Wilder: Another big power back (surprise) that split carries early in his career with James Owens. John McKay's running back by committee approach was pretty much garbage as he ran the ball to death like herm and went through backs like Kleenex. He finally settled on Wilder as the main guy after his three years in the system. In 1984 he had 407 carries for 1500 yards. The following year he had managed 1300 yards. The following years were met with steady and proportionate decline as in 87, 88 and 89 his numbers fell to 704, 488, and 343 respectively. By '89 he was done. Shelf life: 3 good years.

http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/nfl/larams/DickersonLA.jpg
3. Erik Dickerson: Well we all know his story. Obviously a Hall of famer. However, after breaking 400 carries he was injured the following two seasons though he did come back for two more good seasons after that. It should be pointed out that he was the least like Wilder, Anderson and LJ. He was a powerful back, but he had more speed and finesse than the others and that helped preserve him some. Still a powerful runner, but more a complete package than the one-trick pony the other three are. Shelf life: 7 good years (not bad at all)

So, yeah. Herm is wearing him down. And imagine what's going to happen when Shields retires, Gonzo signs elsewhere and Kennison and Green are a year older? The bullseye on his chest just got a lot bigger. Imagine if Green retires? You know Germ is going to protect his rookie with much more of the same. LJ is being burned out in a pathetic 9-7 season by a mediocre coach who will grind his legs into oblivion.

Have a Merry Christmas, Chief fans. :welcome:

DomCasual
12-24-2006, 04:29 AM
Have a nice day, Chief fans. :welcome:

See, Khan - that's what I was looking for when I started the thread. I was going to add a poll question as to what the team should be called when they move to Los Angeles, but I didn't want to seem like I was piling on.

Seriously, I think it is borderline immoral to ride someone the way Herm has ridden LJ this year. It shows a total disregard and lack of respect for LJ the player.

Kaylore
12-24-2006, 04:34 AM
Seriously, I think it is borderline immoral to ride someone the way Herm has ridden LJ this year. It shows a total disregard and lack of respect for LJ the player.

http://img308.imageshack.us/img308/7846/chiefschargersfootball0bv4.jpg
"You PLAY TO WIN THE GAME!........... Hello!"

ROFL!

watermock
12-24-2006, 04:40 AM
It's Vermiel's fault. Ha!

Not many can take pounding year after year like a Emmit Smith. Even Earl Campbell couldn't hold up to constant pounding.

I'm not wishing injury, but it's a matter of time is all.

-Slap-
12-24-2006, 04:41 AM
Severe overusage by Dave Whatsdat is what triggered Ricky Williams going walkabout a few years ago.

+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Rushing | Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| 1999 nor | 12 | 253 884 3.5 2 | 28 172 6.1 0 |
| 2000 nor | 10 | 248 1000 4.0 8 | 44 409 9.3 1 |
| 2001 nor | 16 | 313 1245 4.0 6 | 60 511 8.5 1 |
| 2002 mia | 16 | 383 1853 4.8 16 | 47 363 7.7 1 |
| 2003 mia | 16 | 392 1372 3.5 9 | 50 351 7.0 1 |
| 2005 mia | 12 | 168 743 4.4 6 | 17 93 5.5 0 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 82 | 1757 7097 4.0 47 | 246 1899 7.7 4 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/5882/williamsrickydolphins35ne7.jpg

-Slap-
12-24-2006, 04:43 AM
Ricky would still look great in a Bronco uniform in 2007.

watermock
12-24-2006, 04:48 AM
He's happy with his bong in Canada apparently.

Jens1893
12-24-2006, 05:08 AM
Ricky would still look great in a Bronco uniform in 2007.

Not even half as good as this kid ;)

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/2006/01/17/gallery.bestcfbplayers/lynch.jpg

If he lasts to the middle of the first, I hope Shanahan finds a way to get it done.

eddie mac
12-24-2006, 06:38 AM
Not even half as good as this kid ;)

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/2006/01/17/gallery.bestcfbplayers/lynch.jpg

If he lasts to the middle of the first, I hope Shanahan finds a way to get it done.

Could do Jens considering Shanahan would've pulled the trigger on Maroney if Cutler hadn't have been within their grasp.

Jens1893
12-24-2006, 07:16 AM
Could do Jens considering Shanahan would've pulled the trigger on Maroney if Cutler hadn't have been within their grasp.

Shanahan even tried to trade back into the first for him. Konchesky´s red was a ****ing joke, btw. Merry Christmas to you!

baja
12-24-2006, 08:55 AM
We rebuilt an aging offense with last years draft and we will rebuild our defense this year which will create a dominant football team for years to come.

WoodMan
12-24-2006, 09:25 AM
Just for perspective here is a list of the top three record holders for carries in a season and what happened to them


http://archive.profootballweekly.com/content/archives/images/janderson.jpg
1. Jamal Anderson. We all remember him I'm sure. Very comparable to LJ. He didn't start his first two years (sound familiar?) and really only got going his third year. In his fifth year He hit the magic mark in 1998 on 410 rushes, 1846 yards and went to the Super Bowl. The following year he was injured. The year later he came back and barely managed to get to 1000 with a 3.5 yard per carry average. He was out of football the following year. Shelf life: 3 good years

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/news/2001/02/12/sayitaintso_buccaneers/t1_wilder_all.jpg
2. James Wilder: Another big power back (surprise) that split carries early in his career with James Owens. John McKay's running back by committee approach was pretty much garbage as he ran the ball to death like herm and went through backs like Kleenex. He finally settled on Wilder as the main guy after his three years in the system. In 1984 he had 407 carries for 1500 yards. The following year he had managed 1300 yards. The following years were met with steady and proportionate decline as in 87, 88 and 89 his numbers fell to 704, 488, and 343 respectively. By '89 he was done. Shelf life: 3 good years.

http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/nfl/larams/DickersonLA.jpg
3. Erik Dickerson: Well we all know his story. Obviously a Hall of famer. However, after breaking 400 carries he was injured the following two seasons though he did come back for two more good seasons after that. It should be pointed out that he was the least like Wilder, Anderson and LJ. He was a powerful back, but he had more speed and finesse than the others and that helped preserve him some. Still a powerful runner, but more a complete package than the one-trick pony the other three are. Shelf life: 7 good years (not bad at all)

So, yeah. Herm is wearing him down. And imagine what's going to happen when Shields retires, Gonzo signs elsewhere and Kennison and Green are a year older? The bullseye on his chest just got a lot bigger. Imagine if Green retires? You know Germ is going to protect his rookie with much more of the same. LJ is being burned out in a pathetic 9-7 season by a mediocre coach who will grind his legs into oblivion.

Have a Merry Christmas, Chief fans. :welcome:

So Kaylore is saying LJ only has a good year and a half left. Lets say two at the most. It will take the KC line longer than that to rebuild from their current status. Not a very rosy future in KC. ;D

watermock
12-24-2006, 10:48 AM
Hey, there isn't anything wrong with the KC offense, they hung 20 on Oakland with Walter turning the ball over 4 times.

Hermie will have that offense completely impotent in a matter of months.

SportinOne
12-24-2006, 10:59 AM
4.

Rushing Stats

YEAR G ATT YDS AVG LNG TD FD
2001 16 339 1236 3.6 54 10 67
2002 16 372 1683 4.5 76 14 90
2003 16 313 1645 5.3 73 13 81
2004 15 339 1335 3.9 42 17 68
2005 16 339 1462 4.3 62 18 71
2006 14 310 1626 5.2 85 28 74

Receiving Stats

YEAR G REC YDS AVG LNG TD FD
2001 16 59 367 6.2 27 0 12
2002 16 79 489 6.2 30 1 20
2003 16 100 725 7.3 73 4 26
2004 15 53 441 8.3 74 1 16
2005 16 51 370 7.3 41 2 15
2006 14 53 484 9.1 51 3 20

Only stating facts, not wishing, hoping, or praying for anything...every night..some times twice.

Florida_Bronco
12-24-2006, 11:38 AM
So are you. Larry will have about 412 carries, maybe 413.

You are the dumbass that said LJ would be the best back in the AFC for the next 10 years.

Spider
12-24-2006, 11:42 AM
I allready commented.

I don't know if you were here when I went postal about running Portis a 38th time when we were in close field goal range.

He tore his MCL and was out two weeks but limped into the playoffs and couldn't even run against Indy. Bobo can talk about yardage total. Anyone with any sense knows that backs have a limited shelf life. 440 carries is absurd and would set a record.

We worked TD hard but never for that many carries, not even close. He ran for 392 so he was worked hard, but he gained 5.1 per carry in his 2000 yard year and was put in the shed.

Diaper Boy is averaging 4.3 ypc. They can run him into the ground for all I care.
LOL I remember that .............you was pretty disapointed in Shanny ;D

Bronx33
12-24-2006, 11:57 AM
Me see-em smoke coming from larry knees soon he only human but just as long as herm gets the cheaps to the golf course faster (burning larry out) will be allllllll worth it. (right bobo)

Heres to your 07 season where brodie/herm will need larry to pick up all the slack just to get you back to the golf course again (how old is larry again?)

Florida_Bronco
12-24-2006, 12:00 PM
Me see-em smoke coming from larry knees soon he only human but just as long as herm gets the cheaps to the golf course faster (burning larry out) will be allllllll worth it. (right bobo)

Heres to your 07 season where brodie/herm will need larry to pick up all the slack just to get you back to the golf course again (how old is larry again?)

LJ is 27 or 28

Bronx33
12-24-2006, 12:04 PM
LJ is 27 or 28


I remember last year bobo saying larry will dominate for the next 10 years but if you ask me dickie took the diapers off a little too late keeping hope priest would pan out. Larrys good but he only human

Florida_Bronco
12-24-2006, 12:11 PM
I remember last year bobo saying larry will dominate for the next 10 years but if you ask me dickie took the diapers off a little too late keeping hope priest would pan out. Larrys good but he only human

That was one of the stupidest posts in a long line of stupid posts by Bob.

CBF1
12-24-2006, 12:50 PM
I agree with the LT statements, He has a ton of carries and catches to his credit.... way more than LJ. Any RB is one hit away from the end of their career.

Bob's your Information Minister
12-24-2006, 12:55 PM
Larry Johnson is my muse.

Bronx33
12-24-2006, 12:55 PM
Bob will defend himself just as soon as his everquest tournement ends (hes a level 17 drawf ya know!)

Atlas
12-24-2006, 02:26 PM
We worked TD hard but never for that many carries, not even close. He ran for 392 so he was worked hard, but he gained 5.1 per carry in his 2000 yard year and was put in the shed.

Diaper Boy is averaging 4.3 ypc. They can run him into the ground for all I care.

In 1997 TD set a record for most carries in a season.

Bob's your Information Minister
12-24-2006, 02:29 PM
In 1997 TD set a record for most carries in a season.

Jamal Anderson holds that record.

Florida_Bronco
12-24-2006, 02:32 PM
Bob will defend himself just as soon as his everquest tournement ends (hes a level 17 drawf ya know!)

There's no defense for it and he knows it. For his prediction to come true, LJ would have to be the most dominant back in the AFC West until he was 37 years old. LJ likely won't even be in the league at 37, much less dominant.

-Slap-
12-24-2006, 02:36 PM
He won't be in the League at 32.

Bob's your Information Minister
12-24-2006, 02:45 PM
He won't be in the League at 32.

Really? I think he will.

Florida_Bronco
12-24-2006, 02:47 PM
Really? I think he will.

He might be in the league, but it will probably be in a limited role somewhat similar to the way the Steelers used Bettis.