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SoDak Bronco
12-20-2006, 03:24 PM
The gold standard for judging crops of NFL rookie quarterbacks is 1983, when Dan Marino, John Elway, Jim Kelly and three other eventual starters were drafted into the pros.
Those superstars are long retired, yet 1983 is resonating again at the NFL's prestige position because that's the year this season's three most prominent rookie quarterbacks were born — 19 days apart.

The Tennessee Titans' Vince Young, the Arizona Cardinals' Matt Leinart and the Denver Broncos' Jay Cutler— the first quarterbacks selected in the 2006 draft — have taken over as starters and figure to be part of a who's-the-best? debate for years. Young has the most wins (seven), Leinart has thrown for more than 200 yards in eight of his 10 starts (405 at the Minnesota Vikings) and Cutler got his first win Sunday in outdueling Leinart and the Cardinals.

"There's no question in my mind that it's not going to be a two-out-of-three thing, as far as all of them hitting," says Tennessee coach Jeff Fisher, whose team studied the quarterbacks intensely given its No. 3 pick in the draft and expectations all three would be available.

Titans offensive coordinator Norm Chow coached Leinart in his Heisman Trophy season of 2004 at Southern California, where the two-time national champions ran a pro-style offense.

Cutler had to make only a short drive from the Vanderbilt campus, where he was a four-year starter, for several workouts at the Titans' Nashville practice facility.

"All three are great players," says Fisher, who rates them the best group of rookie quarterbacks in his 12 seasons as head coach. With Young, "We didn't have any concerns about him, or we wouldn't have taken him where we did."

Handicapping the field now is like predicting the Kentucky Derby outcome the second the field breaks from the gate, but Young (7-4) is leading if wins are the top criterion.

After leading Texas to the college championship last season, Young has the Titans on a five-game winning streak for the first time since 2003. His young team that started 0-5 remains alive for a wild-card playoff spot, giving teammates a good feeling about their future.

"All you need to do is get baby sharks to taste blood," is how it's sized up by Titans linebacker Keith Bulluck.

If Tennessee wins out, Young will tie for third-most victories by a rookie quarterback since 1970.

His 462 rushing yards are the most by a rookie quarterback in the Super Bowl era, and Young earned a Sports Illustrated cover with his overtime-ending 39-yard TD run against the Texans in his hometown of Houston on Dec. 10. It is the second-longest TD run by a quarterback in overtime, behind Michael Vick's 46-yarder in 2002.

Young is the only rookie quarterback to rally his team to victory from a 21-point deficit, squeaking past the New York Giants 24-21 on Nov. 26. A week later he became the only rookie quarterback to stage consecutive comebacks from at least 14 points down when the Titans upended the AFC South champion Indianapolis Colts.

That also gave Young back-to-back wins against the Manning brothers, Eli and Peyton.

But Young shies from ranking the achievements.

"I don't know. I'm not finished yet," Young said amid the glare of national media exposure after the Houston game. "These questions, I kind of feel like you think I'm on top right now. I've still got a lot of work to do."

Titan indeed

Titans owner Bud Adams lives in Houston and had been interested in Young since he dominated prep competition there.

Young's primary mentor since high school? Former Titans quarterback Steve McNair.

Fisher has been particularly pleased to see Young post a 63.5% completion rate in his last four games after 45.7% in his first seven.

Leading into the draft, most questions about the 6-4, 233-pound Young centered on his college history as primarily a shotgun-formation quarterback and his unorthodox throwing motion. He releases the ball from a three-quarter position, not sidearm but definitely not overhand.

"I feel like everybody has their own opinions," Young says of his doubters. "If they say Vince can't do this and Vince can't do that, I don't feed into that."

So far the lone notable gaffe by Young was missing Tennessee's Nov. 18 charter flight to Philadelphia, which he blamed on getting stuck in traffic behind a funeral procession. He caught a later flight and began the winning streak the next day.

Bulluck says Young had no difficulty winning over the veterans.

"He came in real humble," Bulluck says. "He just wanted to come in and take over where (McNair) left off."

Bulluck says the only chip on Young's shoulder is "he just doesn't like to be called a rookie."

Young has echoed McNair's fierce running and spontaneity. But where he differs from the 2003 co-NFL MVP is that McNair was a quiet force in the Tennessee locker room while Young is a jokester who describes himself as downright silly.

"He is a silly kid," Titans center and 13-year veteran Kevin Mawae says. "I think it's him relaxing himself. I think he's grown and matured in the sense that he doesn't let the game overwhelm him as he probably did in the beginning. But he's still a kid out there."

During the comeback against the Giants, Titans wide receiver Brandon Jones says, Young "was cool like it was a regular day. … He was like, 'If you guys don't want to play, then you need to get out of the huddle.' "

Why wait?

Rookie quarterbacks traditionally are brought along slowly. Consider the stalwart class of 2000 that included three-time Super Bowl winner Tom Brady, 2006 MVP candidate Drew Brees and the New York Jets' Chad Pennington. None got a start that season (Brees' first appearance was in 2001); they threw a combined 35 passes.

Fisher believes the fast-forwarding of this year's rookie class — plus the 13-0 record Ben Roethlisberger had as a rookie starter for the Pittsburgh Steelers in 2004 — might change that conservative thinking.

"People in the league have a tendency to … look at what happened in the past and make decisions," he says. "This may have an impact on those future quarterbacks that do enter the league" in that teams "will be a little more inclined to play them earlier."

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers' Bruce Gradkowski, a sixth-round pick out of Toledo, has started 11 games this season but will give way Sunday to seven-year veteran Tim Rattay. Tuesday, rookie Vikings coach Brad Childress announced he was benching 38-year-old Brad Johnson to go with second-round draft choice Tarvaris Jackson out of Division I-AA Alabama State.

Dallas Cowboys coach Bill Parcells says the onslaught of rookies was perhaps foreseeable at the NFL's most demanding position.

"I'm not that surprised," he says. "The ones who show an inclination to be able to play it are going to be put in there pretty quickly, because there's not enough to go around."

Still, there's no guarantee of success. Barring injury, Young, Leinart, Cutler and Gradowski each will have at least five starts. The Elias Sports Bureau says the last time rookie quarterbacks saw that much action was in 2002, not that it produced a flood of household names.

David Carr had 16 starts for expansion Houston, Joey Harrington 12 for the Detroit Lions, Chad Hutchinson nine for Dallas and Patrick Ramsey five for the Washington Redskins. Only Carr is still starting for the same team.

But Denver coach Mike Shanahan believes the 1983-born group has a chance to match the Class of '83 quarterbacks. He traded up in the draft to get Cutler with the 11th overall pick, a move made in part because of a recommendation from his close friend Fisher.

Shanahan focused his scouting on Leinart and Cutler and concluded, "Hey, these guys are both slam-dunks in my opinion."

Cutler's 21-for-31 effort for 261 yards Sunday against Arizona yielded a 101.7 passer rating. Early in the game he dropped back and hit Javon Walker in stride for a 54-yard touchdown, on a pass that sailed about 60 yards in the air. Leinart had won his previous two starts.

"It's nice to see three young guys succeeding. It erases the old cliché that (young) quarterbacks struggle," Leinart says. "Obviously, there are struggles, but all three of us are doing very well."

Shanahan says Cutler "has a big-time future with us." He could also be speaking for Tennessee and Arizona when he addresses the future.

"There will be some growing pains," he says, "but I'll enjoy those pains as time goes on."

Just win, baby
Most victories by a starting rookie quarterback since 1970:

Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh 13 (2004)

Kyle Orton, Chicago 10 (2005)

Joe Ferguson, Buffalo 9 (1973)

Chris Chandler, Indianapolis 9 (1988)

Dan Marino, Miami 7 (1983)

Kerry Collins, Carolina 7 (1995)

Vince Young, Tennessee 7 (2006)

Source: Tennessee Titans

Stat scan

Comparison of starting rookie quarterbacks -- Denver's Jay Cutler, Tampa Bay's Bruce Gradkowski, Arizona's Matt Leinart and Tennessee's Vince Young:

G-GS W-L Cmp.-Att. % Yd. TD Int. Rushes Rating

Cutler 3-3 1-2 48-82 58.5 592 6 3 8-20 90.1 :strong:

Gradkowski* 13-11 3-8 177-328 54.0 1,661 9 9 41-161 65.9

Leinart 11-10 3-7 205-364 56.3 2,385 10 12 22-49 71.7

Young 13-11 7-4 156-301 51.8 1,789 10 11 73-462 65.9

*Will be benched Sunday for seven-year veteran Tim Rattay, who has started in 16 of his 34 NFL games.
Source: NFL.com


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SoDak Bronco
12-20-2006, 03:27 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2006-12-19-rookie-qbs-focus_x.htm

Link...from USATODAY

Arkansas Bronco
12-20-2006, 03:34 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2702145
Jay is still ranked low in my oppinion but better then Young and Leinart now.

Paladin
12-20-2006, 04:12 PM
Untill Cutler does something "heroic", he will be thought of as a "talent with great potential".

It does not matter that Cutler has fewer games, he has fewer wins. Now if he should get to the playoffs, he could be the first of the '06 rookies to get to the playoffs. That would be more meaningful than Young's or Leinart's wins. What would it be like if the Broncos won at least one playoff game? I would imagine that would fuel the controversy around the old campfire for a few years.

Clockwork Orange
12-20-2006, 04:37 PM
I just heard Trey Wingo on NFL Live say about Cutler, "He seems to be finally coming into his own."

Finally? Are you kidding me? The kid has played three games in the NFL and he's talking about him as if he's been in the league three years.

I guess taking 6 quarters to get comfortable as a rookie QB in the NFL qualifies you as a late bloomer these days. ::)

ØrangeÇrush
12-20-2006, 04:54 PM
I just heard Trey Wingo on NFL Live say about Cutler, "He seems to be finally coming into his own."

Finally? Are you kidding me? The kid has played three games in the NFL and he's talking about him as if he's acting as if he's been in the league three years.

I guess taking 6 quarters to get comfortable as a rookie QB in the NFL qualifies you as a late bloomer these days. ::)

Than what's Boller's, Losman's, Harrington's, Carr's, the :rolleyes: Eli manning's excuse. In three games, Cutler has shown more maturity than all these guys.

jonny1
12-20-2006, 05:01 PM
Stinky on Mike and Mike this morning stated that although the bomb to Walker was impressive, he said we all knew he had a big arm. He said what impressed him was the intermediate throws and the way he managed the game.

He then picked Denver to beat Cincy.

SoDak Bronco
12-20-2006, 05:03 PM
Trey Wingo is a DA$$. I remember him saying New England handed the game to Denver in the playoffs, basically saying they did everything they could to lose, the game. He can kiss my @ss. I hate that guy.

cutlerfan
12-20-2006, 05:38 PM
Jeff Fisher really wanted Cutler. I mean they worked Jay out four times here.

We here in Nashville wanted Jay to come here. I even asked Jay and he thought he was coming to the Titans.

It was the owner Bud Adams who said pick Vince Young.

I think Denver is better for Jay. A lot better team than the Titans.

I just miss watching Jay play live. I work at Vanderbilt and watched him through his career here.

Circle Orange
12-20-2006, 08:57 PM
I'm gonna do something radical, like wait and see how these careers pan out!

Atlas
12-20-2006, 09:19 PM
I'm gonna do something radical, like wait and see how these careers pan out!

That's ridicules! If you wait then there will not be much of a discussion will there? It will just be Cutler and all the rest.....

watermock
12-20-2006, 09:39 PM
It's true that Fisher wanted Cutler. Bud Adams force fed him.

I don't understand how a rating hovering around 100 the last two games with 4 TD's and 1 pick can be considered inconsistent.

People with half a lick of sense were willing to give Jay time to develop and still will. He was walking last week with a swagger not seen since that one guy we had. He's going to have some bad games still.

If he has another great game, the final Mastadons will fall into the tar pit.

no-pseudo-fan
12-20-2006, 11:22 PM
Nothing fazes this guy! That's what I love about him, well that and his rocket-arm

Paladin
12-21-2006, 12:54 AM
But he still has to get a new 'Do.......

Hercules Rockefeller
12-21-2006, 01:08 AM
I just heard Trey Wingo on NFL Live say about Cutler, "He seems to be finally coming into his own."

Finally? Are you kidding me? The kid has played three games in the NFL and he's talking about him as if he's been in the league three years.

I guess taking 6 quarters to get comfortable as a rookie QB in the NFL qualifies you as a late bloomer these days. ::)

Wingo's an idiot. The sportscaster who narrates highlights got so flustered on Draft Day '04 when Shanny took DJ and not Stephen Jackson like he thought they should have.

Popps
12-21-2006, 01:37 AM
It's a great QB class, for sure.

Cutler will rise to the top in time. He'll playing in a system that works to his advantage, and playing on good teams. Can't necessarily say the same for Tenn or Arizona, just yet. Outside of that, I think he's the purest and most complete passer of the three, which will also be very apparent over time not just by watching him play, but in the stat column.

He'll get the least face-time, though. He's in Denver... he's not a flashy runner like Young, and not a Hollywood type like Leinart.

Not that any of us care about that.

Circle Orange
12-21-2006, 08:57 AM
When it comes to Rook qbs, it definitely matters where you play and the coaching staff...guys can bloom or get ruined early. I don't get too caught up in early success, a career is a marathon. Let's see the body of work in say...2019! Then we can start all over again...:clown:

And yes, Jay's hair may ultimately keep him out of the hall of fame. ROFL!