Playbook Opening up because of QB

[Broncos4tw]

I hear people praising Shanahan and the coaching staff for "finally opening up the playbook." In my opinion, the reason it is opening up is due to the capabilities of our new QB. Technically, he can do things Jake doesn't seem able to do, and I think this is the sole reason we are seeing more of the playbook each week. Our playbook was limited not by our coaching staff, but rather by what our previous QB was capable of. Just wanted to make a note to those who were giving our coaches a hard time for not opening it up. It was our QB that was limiting us, not our coaches, and it's great to see more options during the game. It makes it more exciting, and it sure as hell makes our offense harder to defend.

It's nice to score those things called "points" once again. :thumbsup:

[Kaylore]

You mean it's not the little markers on the field that Jake liked to throw to after all?

[broncsyanks]

i have to point this out as well. has any one ever noticed how early jake threw his passes? i understand it now after watching cutler throw. he didnt have the zip to get the ball there
it's nice to watch again.
also notice the 3 and 4 wr sets that are there again? even scheffler lining in the slot was nice.
the o-line gave him enough time to throw. granted it was against the cardinals but he did show the zip really well

[theAPAOps5]

Jake was better while moving and was bad in the pocket. That does limit the playbook. Plummer made great plays on boots I swear his passes got better while scrambling. Jay has an amazing pass, the spiral is great to see again. One day a WR is going to lose a finger because of how fast he throws that thing.

[Broncos4tw]

Maybe my physics lessons were incomplete, or I am just making wrong assumptions, but to me at least, the reason Jake seems to do better when scrambling is actually a weakness. When he throws in the pocket, he seems terribly inaccurate. As someone pointed out in this thread, Cutler has more zip, he probably doesn't need to lead a receiver as much.

But when rolling the same direction as a receiver, you need very little leading a receiver. If you are both running the same direction (and was often the case, although not always), you don't need to lead the passes quite the same way. You throw it much straighter, and it gets to the receiver also on the move.

In the pocket, you need to do much more leading. And Jake doesn't seem very good at this. I hadn't thought about it, but perhaps it is the arm strength. He has to lead the more, and isn't very good at it. Cutler with his zip, doesn't need to lead a receiver quite as much.

But then, that nice touch pass was a thing of beauty as well by Cutler.

[baja]

I hear people praising Shanahan and the coaching staff for "finally opening up the playbook." In my opinion, the reason it is opening up is due to the capabilities of our new QB. Technically, he can do things Jake doesn't seem able to do, and I think this is the sole reason we are seeing more of the playbook each week. Our playbook was limited not by our coaching staff, but rather by what our previous QB was capable of. Just wanted to make a note to those who were giving our coaches a hard time for not opening it up. It was our QB that was limiting us, not our coaches, and it's great to see more options during the game. It makes it more exciting, and it sure as hell makes our offense harder to defend.

It's nice to score those things called "points" once again. :thumbsup:

Now there is a novel idea.

Who would ever have thought that.

[baja]

Maybe my physics lessons were incomplete, or I am just making wrong assumptions, but to me at least, the reason Jake seems to do better when scrambling is actually a weakness. When he throws in the pocket, he seems terribly inaccurate. As someone pointed out in this thread, Cutler has more zip, he probably doesn't need to lead a receiver as much.

But when rolling the same direction as a receiver, you need very little leading a receiver. If you are both running the same direction (and was often the case, although not always), you don't need to lead the passes quite the same way. You throw it much straighter, and it gets to the receiver also on the move.

In the pocket, you need to do much more leading. And Jake doesn't seem very good at this. I hadn't thought about it, but perhaps it is the arm strength. He has to lead the more, and isn't very good at it.<b> Cutler with his zip, doesn't need to lead a receiver quite as much.</b>

But then, that nice touch pass was a thing of beauty as well by Cutler.

Now that is a good point.

[BroncoFanDoug]

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Technically, he can do things Jake doesn't seem able to do...


Like throw 65 yard bombs on a rope? Jake is in good company - is there another active QB with that sort of arm?

I was totally freaked by that throw - I couldn't calm down for about 30 minutes. We have a franchise QB again...

[GonzoLays]

What a funny thread.

[freak6]

You mean it's not the little markers on the field that Jake liked to throw to after all?

pfffff ha ha haaaaa

That's why Jay did so good, he recognized the markers and igsignias painted on the turf from what was on there during the preseason yesterday. It's so obvious. Get a clue. Look at the stats, nearly identical. Coincidence...I think not, it's the targets on the field the QB's recognize.

Like thier own players for example....ha ha haaaa

[footstepsfrom#27]

Any knowledgeable fan knows the reason Shanny shut down the playbook and the reason he's opened it up again. And if they didn't, Cutler's first pass yesterday removed any doubt.

[freak6]

Any knowledgeable fan knows the reason Shanny shut down the playbook and the reason he's opened it up again. And if they didn't, Cutler's first pass yesterday removed any doubt.

Jake ran that exact same play vs the Raiders. The difference being that Jay Cutler was able to lead Javon to the endzone even with Safety help by throwing over the top of all of them.

Jake threw up a duck that Javon had to stop and come back almost for by adjusting his route as the ball was underthrown and led right to the middle of the field, rather than to the goal posts. Jake was throwing against single coverage also, had there been safety help like the Cards had the ball Jake threw would have been picked. That play accounted for half our passing yards that day. I agree with you that Cutler makes a huge difference, and we can definitely open up the playbook more.

I can't take the smile off my face.

[azbroncfan]

First throw of the game was called out throwing the coverage. I don't think the cards realized he could get it there. I said to a guy sitting next to me in a #7 card jersey, #7 on the cards will never be able to make that throw and he shouldn't talk about Cutler to the media.

[tsr28]

Jake ran that exact same play vs the Raiders. The difference being that Jay Cutler was able to lead Javon to the endzone even with Safety help by throwing over the top of all of them.

Jake threw up a duck that Javon had to stop and come back almost for by adjusting his route as the ball was underthrown and led right to the middle of the field, rather than to the goal posts. Jake was throwing against single coverage also, had there been safety help like the Cards had the ball Jake threw would have been picked. That play accounted for half our passing yards that day. I agree with you that Cutler makes a huge difference, and we can definitely open up the playbook more.

I can't take the smile off my face.

This play was also used in the St. Louis game on a throw to Todd Devoe... it was short and picked off unfortunately.

[TexanBob]

Before I celebrate Jay's arrival, I'll wait for him to do this against a team less dysfunctional than the Cardinals.

[NYBronco]

Andrew Mason
DenverBroncos.com
December 18, 2006

A " Cut" Above


.."The thing that doesn't show up in the stat sheet, is (that) several times when (Cutler) checked the ball over, there was a couple of times when he was supposed to hand the ball to Brandon on the reverse, and he didn't because he saw blitz," (Smith) noted. "Things like that that are very important to keep your football team on schedule.

"We ended up kicking a field goal instead of him trying to hand the ball off for a possible fumble, so he played very smart, and that's the key to our football team right now -- not hurting ourselves.""