How does it feel to be lied to?

[crazyhorse]

According to many on this board (me not included), Mike Shanahan never really meant what he said when he stated "I am putting Jay Cutler in because he gives us the best chance to win now". Instead, many are claiming that what he really meant, is that even though the Broncos were in the playoff race, he was pulling the plug on the season, so he can get the rook some practice for next year.

If you are foolish enough to subscibe to this theory, what does that say to vets like Rod Smith?

Who here would want to play for a coach like that? One that asks you to play hard no matter what happens around you. Then yanks the rug on you and quits during a playoff run?

IMO, Shanny meant exacly what he said. He put Cutler in to win now. That only makes him stupid. However, if he was lying to the team that puts it on the line for him, then that makes him a jackass.

Enjoy your waffles.

[watermock]

Dumbass...Shahanah never throws a player under the bus. Just make a change.

[Garcia Bronco]

There are plenty of other threads you can discuss ths on Chief fan

[Smiling Assassin27]

Well, Herm said 'you play to win the game' but it seems that all the Chiefs have been playing for is paychecks...How does it feel to be lied to?

[watermock]

Tell us when your next coach comes to town.

[McDortoh]

Blah that was a record yank


PS I dont like waffles

[crazyhorse]

Boy...that was quick.

Gutless.....but quick.:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[bronco militia]

“I wouldn’t be bitter if they let me go,” perennial Pro Bowl tight end Tony Gonzalez told me when the locker room cleared out.......

“But right now, to me, winning is more important (than staying in KC),” Gonzalez said.

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/16211451.htm

[crazyhorse]

There are plenty of other threads you can discuss ths on Chief fan


It has it's own unique question on the matter. This was not a response to another thread. Pretty simple really.

You flinched. How weak.

[crazyhorse]

“I wouldn’t be bitter if they let me go,” perennial Pro Bowl tight end Tony Gonzalez told me when the locker room cleared out.......

“But right now, to me, winning is more important (than staying in KC),” Gonzalez said.

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/16211451.htm

Yeah....the I know you are but what am I retort....who woulda guessed it? LOL

[crazyhorse]

According to many on this board (me not included), Mike Shanahan never really meant what he said when he stated "I am putting Jay Cutler in because he gives us the best chance to win now". Instead, many are claiming that what he really meant, is that even though the Broncos were in the playoff race, he was pulling the plug on the season, so he can get the rook some practice for next year.

If you are foolish enough to subscibe to this theory, what does that say to vets like Rod Smith?

Who here would want to play for a coach like that? One that asks you to play hard no matter what happens around you. Then yanks the rug on you and quits during a playoff run?

IMO, Shanny meant exacly what he said. He put Cutler in to win now. That only makes him stupid. However, if he was lying to the team that puts it on the line for him, then that makes him a jackass.

Enjoy your waffles.

[Taco John]

Speaking of waffles, I tried that Creme Brule French Toast recipe this weekend. Very sweet stuff... Good for a weekend where you might want to satisfy a few sweet tooths for breakfast.

[DomCasual]

Did you watch any of the games Plummer started? Apparently not. Cutler hasn't played any worse than Plummer was playing before he was benched.

[crazyhorse]

Speaking of waffles, I tried that Creme Brule French Toast recipe this weekend. Very sweet stuff... Good for a weekend where you might want to satisfy a few sweet tooths for breakfast.

It'll make you fat.

Not like a fat lie, but fat just the same.

[-Slap-]

I felt like crazyhorse did when he spotted his wife in that pickup truck full of immigrant squash pickers.

[Clockwork Orange]

Broncos offense under Plummer: 16.2 points per game
Broncos offense under Cutler: 20.0 points per game

Jake Plummer: 1 TD passes per game on average
Jay Cutler: 2 TD passes per game on average

Tell me again how Cutler isn't outperforming Plummer and how he isn't giving them a better chance to win right now. It's high comedy, but then your endless hard on for Shanahan always has been.

[theAPAOps5]

I got this double fudge chocolate cake at Safeway this weekend all you do is throw it in the microwave and bam instant awesomeness!

[crazyhorse]

Broncos offense under Plummer: 16.2 points per game
Broncos offense under Cutler: 20.0 points per game

Jake Plummer: 1 TD passes per game on average
Jay Cutler: 2 TD passes per game on average

Tell me again how Cutler isn't outperforming Plummer and how he isn't giving them a better chance to win right now. It's high comedy, but then your endless hard on for Shanahan always has been.

Yeah, Cutlers been great. lol

[Bronx33]

Tricky dicky cried alot i hear...

[DomCasual]

You know what I like? Pulled pork sammiches. What's even better is to pile southern-style slaw on them.

I'm just saying it because I had one yesterday, and I haven't been able to stop thinking about it.

Mmmmm.

[crazyhorse]

Tricky dicky cried alot i hear...


He did.

What's that got to do with the question?

Did you not understand it.

I was giving Shanny credit, where Bronco fans were not. Whoda thunkit?

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Kids made Mayme Eisenhower fudge yesterday to give away as presents. Great stuff, but too sweet for me these days.

[scorpio]

Shanahan lied and people died!

[Dagmar]

I got this double fudge chocolate cake at Safeway this weekend all you do is throw it in the microwave and bam instant awesomeness!

I got this brownie from Safeway with chocolate squares on top... and the brownie has nuts! Why do people put nuts in brownies in the states, it destroys the deliciousness!!!!

[Bronx33]

He did.

What's that got to do with the question?

Did you not understand it.

I was giving Shanny credit, where Bronco fans were not. Whoda thunkit?



Pork Chops in Beer
Submitted by: Bronx33
Rated: 4 out of 5 by 152 members Prep Time: 20 Minutes
Cook Time: 1 Hour Ready In: 1 Hour 20 Minutes
Yields: 8 servings
"Whip up a pungent mixture of ketchup, beer and brown sugar for a sweet and sassy pork chop bake."
INGREDIENTS:
2 cups ketchup
1 (12 fluid ounce) can or bottle beer

3/4 cup packed brown sugar
8 pork chops
DIRECTIONS:
1. Preheat oven to 350 degrees F (175 degrees C).
2. In a medium bowl, combine the ketchup, brown sugar and beer. Mix well and pour into a 9x13 inch baking dish. Place the pork chops over this mixture in the dish.
3. Bake, uncovered, at 350 degrees F (175 degrees C) for 1 hour, or internal pork temperature reaches 160 degrees F (175 degrees C). (Note: Place foil over pork chops if they start to brown too quickly.)

[McDortoh]

My mother made me a B-day cake this weekend. It was aweome....some kind of cream cheese frosting.

[REB]

I bought some of that Campbells Chunky Chicken n Dumpling soup. Man that stuff is tasty!

[Clockwork Orange]

Yeah, Cutlers been great. lol

I never said that, though it doesn't surprise me that that's your only comeback when presented with facts.

Cutler is outperforming Plummer, therefore he's giving the Broncos a better chance to win than Plummer did. Herm Edwards must be rubbing off on you since you seem to be mailing in your attempts at smack now that December is here.

[bronco militia]

“I wouldn’t be bitter if they let me go,” perennial Pro Bowl tight end Tony Gonzalez told me when the locker room cleared out.......

“But right now, to me, winning is more important (than staying in KC),” Gonzalez said.

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...s/16211451.htm

[Clockwork Orange]

“I wouldn’t be bitter if they let me go,” perennial Pro Bowl tight end Tony Gonzalez told me when the locker room cleared out.......

“But right now, to me, winning is more important (than staying in KC),” Gonzalez said.

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...s/16211451.htm

Sounds like someone is waking up to the fact that he's spent the best years of his career with his wagon hitched to a tree stump.

[cmhargrove]

According to many on this board (me not included), Mike Shanahan never really meant what he said when he stated "I am putting Jay Cutler in because he gives us the best chance to win now". Instead, many are claiming that what he really meant, is that even though the Broncos were in the playoff race, he was pulling the plug on the season, so he can get the rook some practice for next year.

If you are foolish enough to subscibe to this theory, what does that say to vets like Rod Smith?

Who here would want to play for a coach like that? One that asks you to play hard no matter what happens around you. Then yanks the rug on you and quits during a playoff run?

IMO, Shanny meant exacly what he said. He put Cutler in to win now. That only makes him stupid. However, if he was lying to the team that puts it on the line for him, then that makes him a jackass.

Enjoy your waffles.


UMMMMMMMMM. So my two choices are Shanahan stupid, or Shanahan jackass. Well....... Ummmmm..... Urrrrr..... This one is hard.

Is there a third one about someone else being a jackass?

[crazyhorse]

Did you watch any of the games Plummer started? Apparently not. Cutler hasn't played any worse than Plummer was playing before he was benched.

He played better against SD than Cutler did. Besides this isn't about Cutlers play. Its about the posters on this board and thier opinion of what Shanahans word means to them.

[cmhargrove]

According to many on this board (me not included), Mike Shanahan never really meant what he said when he stated "I am putting Jay Cutler in because he gives us the best chance to win now". Instead, many are claiming that what he really meant, is that even though the Broncos were in the playoff race, he was pulling the plug on the season, so he can get the rook some practice for next year.

If you are foolish enough to subscibe to this theory, what does that say to vets like Rod Smith?

Who here would want to play for a coach like that? One that asks you to play hard no matter what happens around you. Then yanks the rug on you and quits during a playoff run?

IMO, Shanny meant exacly what he said. He put Cutler in to win now. That only makes him stupid. However, if he was lying to the team that puts it on the line for him, then that makes him a jackass.

Enjoy your waffles.


UMMMMMMMMM. So my two choices are Shanahan stupid, or Shanahan jackass. Well....... Ummmmm..... Urrrrr..... This one is hard.

Is there a third choice about someone else being a jackass?

[TheChamp24]

I love pie, especially lemon merangue. Chocolate is good too. French silk ain't bad too.

[crazyhorse]

Sounds like someone is waking up to the fact that he's spent the best years of his career with his wagon hitched to a tree stump.
LOL

That was good

[crazyhorse]

UMMMMMMMMM. So my two choices are Shanahan stupid, or Shanahan jackass. Well....... Ummmmm..... Urrrrr..... This one is hard.

Is there a third one about someone else being a jackass?

That was just my choice of words. You are free to use any terms you like.

[crazyhorse]

I never said that, though it doesn't surprise me that that's your only comeback when presented with facts.

Cutler is outperforming Plummer, therefore he's giving the Broncos a better chance to win than Plummer did. Herm Edwards must be rubbing off on you since you seem to be mailing in your attempts at smack now that December is here.


Plummer played better against SD.

Hows that smack?

[TheChamp24]

I also like these Ritz bites Smores that I got at the store. Nice snacking on.

[Crushaholic]

Ummmm...pie...

I don't know how I made it through Thanksgiving without pecan pie, but I did it...:thumbsup:

[Bronx33]

So try that chop recipie and let me know what ya think.

[orange 4 life]

Broncos offense under Plummer: 16.2 points per game
Broncos offense under Cutler: 20.0 points per game

Jake Plummer: 1 TD passes per game on average
Jay Cutler: 2 TD passes per game on average

Tell me again how Cutler isn't outperforming Plummer and how he isn't giving them a better chance to win right now. It's high comedy, but then your endless hard on for Shanahan always has been.

are you serious?

im enjoying watching the young man develop, but damn!!

those are some of the most misleading stats you'll ever read.
cutler fumbled 3 times sunday, with 1 being lost.
he also threw for 37 yards in a 1st half where we went down 28-3.

in his 1st start, he was SO MUCH worse than his starts its hard to put into words.
he literally only made 2 impressive throws all night, and then one other pedestrian throw (the td to marshall) that went for a score.

he hasnt been anywhere near as good as plummer was/is, but he ABSOLUTELY shows promise for the future.

[Bronx33]

Thanks for the rep Liberachi!


Bwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahaha!!!q

[TheChamp24]

Speaking of pie and Thanksgiving, how about pumpkin pie? I actually didn't get any this year :(
But for Christmas most likely, that or some lemon pie, some chocolate, oh man.

[Goobzilla]

You know what I like? Pulled pork sammiches. What's even better is to pile southern-style slaw on them.

I'm just saying it because I had one yesterday, and I haven't been able to stop thinking about it.

Mmmmm.

I smoked 4 shoulders last week, pulled pork sammiches for months. WOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[Ratboy]

Speaking of waffles, I tried that Creme Brule French Toast recipe this weekend. Very sweet stuff... Good for a weekend where you might want to satisfy a few sweet tooths for breakfast.

I'm not sure if you read my post about it. It's awesome stuff!

[TheChamp24]

My grandma makes these creme puffs that are soooooo goood. I can't wait to have them in a few weeks!
I'm going to gorge myself soon.

[DomCasual]

I love pie, especially lemon merangue. Chocolate is good too. French silk ain't bad too.

Key Lime. Mmmmm.

If lovin' key lime pie is wrong, I don't want to be right! I think you know what I'm sayin'!

[DomCasual]

I smoked 4 shoulders last week, pulled pork sammiches for months. WOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Wow. That's awesome. I should try that sometime. You just can't get good pulled pork out west.

[TheChamp24]

Key Lime. Mmmmm.

If lovin' key lime pie is wrong, I don't want to be right! I think you know what I'm sayin'!

Amen to that! Man, I wish I had some right now.

[Spider]

Speaking of waffles, I tried that Creme Brule French Toast recipe this weekend. Very sweet stuff... Good for a weekend where you might want to satisfy a few sweet tooths for breakfast.

Man we had a oil rig move from Lance Creek Wyoming to Baroil WY , I found 2 great places to eat , and I have been past both places several times never stoped ...........one is 3 sisters truckstop and the other is greasy spoon called Grandmas .............at both places Food is out of this world , except I got shoved out of the buffet line by some old woman at 3 sisters ............The old woman was damn serious about the fried chicken ;D

[crazyhorse]

Man we had a oil rig move from Lance Creek Wyoming to Baroil WY , I found 2 great places to eat , and I have been past both places several times never stoped ...........one is 3 sisters truckstop and the other is greasy spoon called Grandmas .............at both places Food is out of this world , except I got shoved out of the buffet line by some old woman at 3 sisters ............The old woman was damn serious about the fried chicken ;D

I once killed a man for his fried chicken. You should have tripped her.

[Spider]

I once killed a man for his fried chicken. You should have tripped her.

man I was worried about that fork she was waving around ............ I did leave a 10 spot tip for the waitress though , hard working gal ..........

[Killericon]

I am thoroughly convinced that Cutler gives us our best shot at winning, even if that isn't a good enough shot to beat the Chargers. Plummer would've lost those games(Can Plummer play Defense and find a way to stop LT?).

Early in the Season, we were praying for 20 point performances on offense.

What's changed since then? The Quarterback's play?

[crazyhorse]

I am thoroughly convinced that Cutler gives us our best shot at winning, even if that isn't a good enough shot to beat the Chargers. Plummer would've lost those games(Can Plummer play Defense and find a way to stop LT?).

Early in the Season, we were praying for 20 point performances on offense.

What's changed since then? The Quarterback's play?

The thread really isn't about Cutlers play. Its about the posters on this board and thier opinion of what Shanahans word means to them.

I'm asking if they think he was honest, and thought Cutler gave him the best chance to win. Or do they think he lied and was cutting bait on the team?

I made my opinion clear. I took him at his word.

[TheChamp24]

No, this thread is about pies! That and good food. If you have something to say, take it elsewhere.

[crazyhorse]

No, this thread is about pies! That and good food. If you have something to say, take it elsewhere.

I was eating pie when I posted this thread.