Remember when...

[baja]

FADERPROOF, Bendog, Old dude, Pezman, Tredici, phillybroncosnut, Meck77, errand, Mtbrncofn, orange 4 life, quietiger, SJ Bronco, Smurf, thedave, PatsWin 2002, HEAV, Hulamau, wabbit, Mediator12, REB, Winstoncup Bronco, Moonshiner, Bronco inferno, Ball hawk, Needa pass rush, Tomestone RJ, broncogary, iowa bronco fan, SouthStandsJunkie, The Next Step.

All of these very fun posters were regulars at one time and they all now post sparingly or not at all.

What happened to the good old days?

[Atlas]

Yeah but there are plenty of great new posters now!

Their names escape me at this moment but they are here.

[Paladin]

Three things:

1. Trolls with insulting smart mouths and no ral Football takes;
2, Posters with continuous, unbending "know it all" attitudes that belie any fun in discussing the team or the games;
3. Family and other interests take higher a priority.

In short, there are too many sexual intellectuals* around.


*Effing Know-it-alls

[theAPAOps5]

I hope I am not in that second list. I try to see all sides and pose my take.

[Dagmar]

Three things:

1. Trolls with insulting smart mouths and no ral Football takes;
2, Posters with continuous, unbending "know it all" attitudes that belie any fun in discussing the team or the games;


"Ignore" is a wonderful thing for 1.
2. Such is life.

[Dagmar]

FADERPROOF, Bendog, Old dude, Pezman, Tredici, phillybroncosnut, Meck77, errand, Mtbrncofn, orange 4 life, quietiger, SJ Bronco, Smurf, thedave, PatsWin 2002, HEAV, Hulamau, wabbit, Mediator12, REB, Winstoncup Bronco, Moonshiner, Bronco inferno, Ball hawk, Needa pass rush, Tomestone RJ, broncogary, iowa bronco fan, SouthStandsJunkie, The Next Step.

All of these very fun posters were regulars at one time and they all now post sparingly or not at all.

What happened to the good old days?

Terrifying avatars...

[hertzc]

that's what happens when you guys start to lose, your "fans" go bye bye

[Paladin]

"Ignore" is a wonderful thing for 1.
2. Such is life.

The problem is, most guys keep quoting the trolls to reply instead of using the other button or the Quick reply option. After a while, it doesn't make any difference anymore, and it is no longer fun. I doubt these posters would be found on other boards, either.

Without sugar-coating it, the Broncos and football get boring after some several years of this stuff. Some people grab a life while it is still there to be had.......

[theAPAOps5]

Deleted

[Hotrod]

Without sugar-coating it, the Broncos and football get boring after some several years of this stuff. Some people grab a life while it is still there to be had.......

Ban him.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Bunch of bandwagon, fairweather fans.

[baja]

Bunch of bandwagon, fairweather fans.

Most of those posters have been here for years and none of them has less than 4,000 posts. Unlike you they are all Bronco fans that enjoyed talking Broncos football.

I think you are in fact a small part of the reason/problem.

[BlaK-Argentina]

Without sugar-coating it, the Broncos and football get boring after some several years of this stuff.

What stuff exactly?

[Crushaholic]

You had a point until you mentioned NextStep on that list. In no way do I miss a Raider fan posting here...

[ludo21]

Nope never heard of those guys.... ;D


Seriously tho the "community" to a board like this is gone when their are thousands of members.

Also, they know when everyhting has been said and dont feel the need to rehash it.

[Bronx33]

It's a pretty easy answer if you all think about it (people have lives) priorities change, i kinda know why disco and meck don't post much but as for the others i will guess (they have stuff to do)

[BlaK-Argentina]

Also, they know when everyhting has been said and dont feel the need to rehash it.

Exactly, I've seen those guys lurking quite a bit, but they don't post much lately because that would be repeating what's been said over and over and over. (that's why I usually don't post much, though I've been posting more lately... well, that and the fact that I don't know squat. ;D )

[baja]

You had a point until you mentioned NextStep on that list. In no way do I miss a Raider fan posting here...

NextStep had some good takes

[Hotrod]

FADERPROOF, Bendog, Old dude, Pezman, Tredici, phillybroncosnut, Meck77, errand, Mtbrncofn, orange 4 life, quietiger, SJ Bronco, Smurf, thedave, PatsWin 2002, HEAV, Hulamau, wabbit, Mediator12, REB, Winstoncup Bronco, Moonshiner, Bronco inferno, Ball hawk, Needa pass rush, Tomestone RJ, broncogary, iowa bronco fan, SouthStandsJunkie, The Next Step.

All of these very fun posters were regulars at one time and they all now post sparingly or not at all.

What happened to the good old days?

Pretty good list and some of them I know the reasons why they dont post as much others I have no clue.

One of them is currently in Iraq
Another is busy with a move
A couple for personal reasons etc...

[Hotrod]

NextStep had some good takes

Yep for a raider fan he was also a pretty knowledgable football fan over all.

[BlaK-Argentina]

It's a pretty easy answer if you all think about it (people have lives) priorities change, i kinda know why disco and meck don't post much but as for the others i will guess (they have stuff to do)

Of course, that too. During the year I'm not here nearly as much as I am now. (I'm on vacation... !Booya! )

This is pretty much the only internet site I visit anyway... :P

[Hotrod]

I never really knew Needa Pass Rush I dont think but maybe he got tired of waiting for a pass rush ;)

[ludo21]

Now on the flip side lets see who we want gone:

all Raider fans
Queef fans
bandwagon charger fans.
Hotrod ;D

[alkemical]

Terrifying avatars...



Enjoy!

lol

[alkemical]

FADERPROOF, Bendog, Old dude, Pezman, Tredici, phillybroncosnut, Meck77, errand, Mtbrncofn, orange 4 life, quietiger, SJ Bronco, Smurf, thedave, PatsWin 2002, HEAV, Hulamau, wabbit, Mediator12, REB, Winstoncup Bronco, Moonshiner, Bronco inferno, Ball hawk, Needa pass rush, Tomestone RJ, broncogary, iowa bronco fan, SouthStandsJunkie, The Next Step.

All of these very fun posters were regulars at one time and they all now post sparingly or not at all.

What happened to the good old days?


SSJ posts here and there - and you know where to find him anyway

http://www.thesouthstands.com

[Hotrod]

Maybe some of them changed names ;D

I wonder where AmesJ went???

[Crushaholic]

I never really knew Needa Pass Rush I dont think but maybe he got tired of waiting for a pass rush ;)

I'm guessing he was anticipating a name change at some point when we finally got a pass rush and he's STILL waiting. It's sad, really...

[BlaK-Argentina]

Enjoy!

lol

Yeah what the HECK is that? ;D

[alkemical]

Maybe some of them changed names ;D

I wonder where AmesJ went???


I don't know. I do know amesJ did show up on friday and consumed copious amounts of vodka - made out with his friends sister - and then joined a band to play drums as bigfoot.

;)

[alkemical]

Yeah what the HECK is that? ;D

IT is bad ass - If you wanted to google or look it up -

NARASIMHA is it's name -

[baja]

SSJ posts here and there - and you know where to find him anyway

http://www.thesouthstands.com


Yes I know where to find Junkman. My point is a lot of really fun posters don't post here like they used to and I wonder what you all think is the reason why.

[baja]

Maybe some of them changed names ;D

I wonder where AmesJ went???

Not to mention Becky4J now there was a poster, boob could learn much from her.

[baja]

Yeah what the HECK is that? ;D

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/image.php?u=29&dateline=1144049876

One hell of a drummer

[alkemical]

Yes I know where to find Junkman. My point is a lot of really fun posters don't post here like they used to and I wonder what you all think is the reason why.

Well the reason why i post at http://www.thesouthstands.com more for football than the OM - is i can actually get into a more or less 'real' discussion withsomeone. It's so hard to keep up with 6billion duplicate threads that all have the same converstation with different players.

Then of course comes the eventual friction added when people don't realize there's a difference of opinion...always - and really - basically - what any complaint anyone has about the WRP forum - is exactly the same "up here" - just change "your political party" to "your football team" - throw in some STFU's & some "you are the dumbest ever" - and it's about the same - magnify by the # of participating posters who return what they recieve - and viola - that's why i think some posters left or is a current beef with the OM.

[alkemical]

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/image.php?u=29&dateline=1144049876

One hell of a drummer



;)

[atomicbloke]

Since I am a newbie, I am curious.... did all of you guys already know each other when this board started? From the posts here, I could figure out most of you guys actually know each other and meet in person pretty often.

This is very different from the broncomania board. Even though I am there regularly, I can't actually associate a persona to any of the posters because there seem to be new ones everytime.

[alkemical]

Since I am a newbie, I am curious.... did all of you guys already know each other when this board started? From the posts here, I could figure out most of you guys actually know each other and meet in person pretty often.

This is very different from the broncomania board. Even though I am there regularly, I can't actually associate a persona to any of the posters because there seem to be new ones everytime.

I have never met anyone from here or from the http://www.thesouthstands.com in person -

But there is a core group of people that i've talked to for years and some of them helped me out of a very dire situation.

I'd like to meet them - but they are very scared of me.

[TheDave]

I have never met anyone from here or from the http://www.thesouthstands.com in person -

But there is a core group of people that i've talked to for years and some of them helped me out of a very dire situation.

I'd like to meet them - but they are very scared of me.

As they should be...:)

As for not posting as much... I do my best to stay clear of the WR&P room because of recent events...

As for this forum, I think I'm posting here just as much as always unfortunately every thread currently devolves into a contest of who can remind us the most that everyone sucks and that they always knew it.

I told you plummer sucked...
I told you Cutler Sucked...
I told you Coyer Sucked...
I told you shanahan sucked...

Blah, Blah, Blah

Just as the team is in complete disarray so are the fans. I think we all need an off-season to get back into the swing of things. JMO

[Cito Pelon]

There has been quite a bit of turnover. Many of us knew each other from the old DPO board. Then it got moderated and we couldn't cuss at each other any more and came here. It's interesting how it has evolved. I dropped in on the DPO board, Broncomania or whatever it is and saw a thread about other boards. The Mane was described as a bit "rougher-edged" or something like that. And that's what it is. This is where the aggressive posters are.

[BroncoInSkinland]

I would bet it is simply the OM showing its age. Happens to every long term endevour, online or off. Life priorities and interests change and people get tied up with other things or simply drift away. It could also have to do with the growth of the board. More people talking about the same number of things mean less chances per person to add to, and forward, the discussion. But then you might be onto something with the know-it-alls. Hope I am not one of them. hmmm...

It is a shame though, while I have only been here a relatively short time, I have read some posts from some of the individuals you mentioned and have been impressed. Losing original thinkers is always tough.

[BroncoInSkinland]

IT is bad ass - If you wanted to google or look it up -

NARASIMHA is it's name -

Oh yeah, and why is it spelled differently under your avatar? I meant to ask a few times now.

[BlaK-Argentina]

Oh yeah, and why is it spelled differently under your avatar? I maeant to ask a few times now.

He has it wrong on his avatar. I googled it and it's quite interesting. I would certainly let him/it try out as a drummer for my band. ;D

[DomCasual]

Maybe some of them changed names ;D

I wonder where AmesJ went???

I always thought he was something of a tool. It's a good thing he's not around, because I wouldn't want him knowing I said that. He's a devil worshipper, you know.

[orange 4 life]

FADERPROOF, Bendog, Old dude, Pezman, Tredici, phillybroncosnut, Meck77, errand, Mtbrncofn, orange 4 life, quietiger, SJ Bronco, Smurf, thedave, PatsWin 2002, HEAV, Hulamau, wabbit, Mediator12, REB, Winstoncup Bronco, Moonshiner, Bronco inferno, Ball hawk, Needa pass rush, Tomestone RJ, broncogary, iowa bronco fan, SouthStandsJunkie, The Next Step.

All of these very fun posters were regulars at one time and they all now post sparingly or not at all.

What happened to the good old days?

thanks for the compliment. its much appreciated, even if i may be "fun".....to laugh at due to my being prone to having meltdowns!! :giggle:

yeah, i miss the "good ol days" too, in alot of ways, but im still around, even if it is just sparingly.

[orange 4 life]

Since I am a newbie, I am curious.... did all of you guys already know each other when this board started? From the posts here, I could figure out most of you guys actually know each other and meet in person pretty often.

This is very different from the broncomania board. Even though I am there regularly, I can't actually associate a persona to any of the posters because there seem to be new ones everytime.

alot of us got to know eachother through tailgating at the games, and many of us became pretty close as a result. kinda like a big family.

[Rascal]

For several of the names there has been some falling out due to events on the board, and regarding some others they didn't like how the board got so big and lost it's small group appeal, while others had some personal developments occur that no longer allow them to post as much. In a lot of people's opinion, especially those that have been here a while, the board has started to turn into what the team forum is, and for a lot of people that's not a good thing. At least that's what I've noticed from talking to a lot of the people mentioned above.

I think TJ has realized that, and he tried to counteract it by suggesting the pay forum area, but due to his own personal obligations and not enough support the idea didn't go through.

[Sodak]

A lot of the geezers here are just plain bullies, and a lot of posters complain about other posters lack of football takes. But, when they do contribute, they get flamed. See yesterday's post by Alec where his opinon is the absolute truth no matter what. That sort of an approach doesn't leave much room for conversation.


I mostly lurk here and read.

[DomCasual]

A lot of the geezers here are just plain bullies, and a lot of posters complain about other posters lack of football takes. But, when they do contribute, they get flamed. See yesterday's post by Alec where his opinon is the absolute truth no matter what. That sort of an approach doesn't leave much room for conversation.


I mostly lurk here and read.

That's got to be one of the dumbest posts I have ever read. If you don't have something good to say, then just STFU and buy a vowel?

[Rascal]

A lot of the geezers here are just plain bullies, and a lot of posters complain about other posters lack of football takes. But, when they do contribute, they get flamed. See yesterday's post by Alec where his opinon is the absolute truth no matter what. That sort of an approach doesn't leave much room for conversation.


I mostly lurk here and read.

No offense but that is a load of ****.

Alec should not be misinterpreted as the spokesman or identifier for that group, nor should anybody else.

[Spider]

A lot of the geezers here are just plain bullies, and a lot of posters complain about other posters lack of football takes. But, when they do contribute, they get flamed. See yesterday's post by Alec where his opinon is the absolute truth no matter what. That sort of an approach doesn't leave much room for conversation.


I mostly lurk here and read.
Bullies ? on the net ?
I am one of the worst speelars here , my Grammar sucks , my sentence structure looks like somthing a caveman would put together ........... But I dont let that stop me from calling someone an Idiot ;D

[PatsWin2002]

I am here every day. I don't post as much, I guess.

That's probably because there are so many people here now that I am seldom first with Broncos news I find on the internet.

[watermock]

You had a point until you mentioned NextStep on that list. In no way do I miss a Raider fan posting here...

That's where it goes anymore...NextStep is an oustanding poster...as is Patswim2002. Joe SeaHawk is another good rival fan.

It doesn't really matter. The issue Baja brought up if very real.

[Taco John]

This topic seems to come up once every two years. Seasons change. Though a lot of the folks Baja listed, I've seen posting recently.

[-Slap-]

Tredici donates a lot of her time to the VFW and other worthy local causes.

[brncs_fan]

I know that I am not anywhere near the people on that list, but I know that I have not been posting much recently because I just got married and now have finals this week, but also because I got tired of watching every thread continually turn into Plummer vs. Cutler regardless of what the opening topic may have been. Now the team is falling on hard times and everyone seems to be at each others throats and making personal attacks at the other because the team isn't playing well right now.

Just my two cents.

[Moon§hiner]

Thanks for the mention Baja...I'm still around but have to admit I mainly check out the board for the latest news anymore...one can only say "so and so" sucks just so many ways. I try to make a point to give birthday wishes to posters that I admire and I'm sure I have missed some because I did take a sabbaticle. I learned a long time ago that nothing ever stays the same. I do challenge new members to give donations to TJ to help out with the expenses instead of just blabbing to see yourself type.. I have donated on more than one occasion.

[Ray Finkle]

I stopped posting a lot since I finished Grad School, got a "real" job, and most importantly the queen was born. I still visit daily but mostly read and rarely post, unless it's a chance to burst Socal's bubble;D .

[Sodak]

That's got to be one of the dumbest posts I have ever read. If you don't have something good to say, then just STFU and buy a vowel?

Yep. I didn't really need to single anyone out. Although I'm sure he can take it, and would hold no grudge.

Can I buy a "Y"?

[alkemical]

I always thought he was something of a tool. It's a good thing he's not around, because I wouldn't want him knowing I said that. He's a devil worshipper, you know.



Oh not something of a tool. Quite a tool. I'll relay that message to satan though to let amesj know that you know that i know too.... or something....

[DomCasual]

Oh not something of a tool. Quite a tool. I'll relay that message to satan though to let amesj know that you know that i know too.... or something....

Thanks for doing that. You're a good man - almost the antithesis of that amesj bastard!

[ØrangeÇrush]

I don't have the post counts of all those people (need to get on the survivor thread) but I've been on the board for a bit, and lurked longer. There are so many new people and good solid takes are usully found on the the third page because some chucklehead just had to start a new thread because their opinion was so much more important that we all have to stop what were doing and read it. It's just easier to lurk and disagree or agree in your head. Also, I tend to stay away for a couple of days after bad losses, because reading everyone's negativity seems to amplify my own grumpiness.

[Paladin]

Well the reason why i post at http://www.thesouthstands.com more for football than the OM - is i can actually get into a more or less 'real' discussion withsomeone. It's so hard to keep up with 6billion duplicate threads that all have the same converstation with different players.

Then of course comes the eventual friction added when people don't realize there's a difference of opinion...always - and really - basically - what any complaint anyone has about the WRP forum - is exactly the same "up here" - just change "your political party" to "your football team" - throw in some STFU's & some "you are the dumbest ever" - and it's about the same - magnify by the # of participating posters who return what they recieve - and viola - that's why i think some posters left or is a current beef with the OM.


Yeah. Stuff like that.

[ZachKC]

Time passes...things change...people change.

These communities are a lot like bar...the faces just change every now and again.

[JCMElway]

that's what happens when you guys start to lose, your "fans" go bye bye

Screw you, you stupid troll. I appreciate fans from other teams that have good takes, but every one of your posts is a flame and you add nothing good to the football discussion. **** off.

Oh, and Charger fans CAN NOT accuse anyone else of being fair weather fans. When the Chargers have had par or below par seasons the past 30 years (and that's what, 85% of the time?) the fans that show up at the Murph are at least 50% from the other team. Especially if that team is the Broncs.

Denver has 30+ straight years of selling out Mile High. The Chargers can't even sell out their stadium for wild card playoffs games. SD fans calling anyone else Fairweather fans is laughable.

[Kaylore]

FADERPROOF, Bendog, Old dude, Pezman, Tredici, phillybroncosnut, Meck77, errand, Mtbrncofn, orange 4 life, quietiger, SJ Bronco, Smurf, thedave, PatsWin 2002, HEAV, Hulamau, wabbit, Mediator12, REB, Winstoncup Bronco, Moonshiner, Bronco inferno, Ball hawk, Needa pass rush, Tomestone RJ, broncogary, iowa bronco fan, SouthStandsJunkie, The Next Step.

All of these very fun posters were regulars at one time and they all now post sparingly or not at all.

What happened to the good old days?
Virtually everyone on that list either still posts or is posting at the same rate they always have. At least half of them have posted in the last week. I think the hysteria of this thread suggesting the members are vanishing is imagined and we get new members every day.

Some people will move on, but just because they don't post, doesn't mean they aren't here.

[baja]

Virtually everyone on that list either still posts or is posting at the same rate they always have. At least half of them have posted in the last week. I think the hysteria of this thread suggesting the members are vanishing is imagined and we get new members every day.

Some people will move on, but just because they don't post, doesn't mean they aren't here.

Obviously you would like to think that but it is just not true.

[Taco John]

Man a lot of those people on that list post here every day still Baja. How did BroncoInferno find his way onto that list? Or Heav? Man he's been throwing tomatoes at me almost daily now. Or O4life? I've seen him on here quite a bit this season. Hulamau? How did he get on that list? TheDave?

Man, I see a lot of these folks posting every week. Bronco Gary has about the funniest avatar I've seen in awhile. Still posting his witty replies now and again at about the same rate as always. I just saw wabbit in another thread giving his take on Cutler's improvement from the last game. I remember reading SouthStdsJunkie just today commenting on the thread I started about Scheffler.

[theAPAOps5]

Hula is always in the game day Chat.

[Kaylore]

Obviously you would like to think that but it is just not true.

No, it is true. Remember when you post has a lot to do with it too. There is a morning, afternoon and late evening crowd and they are all different.

[Taco John]

Don't forget the limeys... :)

[Killericon]

Defiantly been missing Old Dude's presence.

[baja]

No, it is true. Remember when you post has a lot to do with it too. There is a morning, afternoon and late evening crowd and they are all different.

If you want to prove it to yourself go to User CP then click Members than posts. You will see the one's I listed have there last post going back in most cases atleast 10 days or so. Another way to verify what i am saying is to click on 'read posts by so and so' and you will see a drop off on the ones I listed. If you need to believe there has not been a significant drop off of the folks i listed that that's OK with me but in most cases the proof is there (I did not check them all)

[-Slap-]

Not enough Bendog lately, but I think he got really disgusted by all the Jake/Jay bickering.

[Goobzilla]

Can I buy a "Y"?

Sometimes.

[Vegas_Bronco]

Their just a little intimidated right now with Shanny yelling at everyone, we're all going through a rough time right now with all these big changes, lots of fueds, too many losses, no answers. Maybe they just feel like no one is listening or maybe Dwill is right - some of us have quit early. We should give them all man hug (but not a gay one) and pat them the back.....it's gonna be okay troopies we all just going through a case of Elway withdrawl right now.

[Kaylore]

If you want to prove it to yourself go to User CP then click Members than posts. You will see the one's I listed have there last post going back in most cases atleast 10 days or so. Another way to verify what i am saying is to click on 'read posts by so and so' and you will see a drop off on the ones I listed. If you need to believe there has not been a significant drop off of the folks i listed that that's OK with me but in most cases the proof is there (I did not check them all)

Fine. I'll prove it now.

FADERPROOF: Has been gone since October. This I noticed when we didn't have any "Elam sucks" threads going around. That's one

Bendog: Logged in yesterday

Old dude: It appears he's on now (unless I'm reading the moderator thing wrong). He also rarely posts, and while I agree they are usually great takes, we can't force good things. :)

Pezman: On now. He's mostly been a goofy guy that shows up to lampoon someone and spread good cheer. He actually doesn't talk football all that much, though.

Tredici: Was on December 9th and posted last December 3rd. She works with veterans and its the Christmas season. A great poster but also a busy one.

phillybroncosnut: Last posted on the 30th. He's always gone two week periods where we wouldn't see him and then he'd post.

Meck77: He was logged in today and posted two days ago several times.

errand: Was on a few days ago and last post was on the 6th.

Mtbrncofn: Ah, my favorite. Mount Brown Coffin. :welcome: She's on right now and posting under our nose! She is a big hockey fan and is spending most of her time in that forum.

orange 4 life: On today and posted in the main forum today.

quietiger: Was logged in yesterday meaning Monday, posted many times and will probably be on again shortly. He's on the other side of the earth so he's in a very different time zone.

SJ Bronco: Ok this is the the second one that hasn't been here. I'm sure things are fine.

Smurf: Was on on the third and remember he's in the Navy so he's never been someone who posted a great deal.

thedave: Was on a few hours ago and posted.

PatsWin 2002: Same as above

HEAV: Same as above

Hulamau: Is on right now and has posted many times in the last few days.

wabbit: Was just on and posted - http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?p=1399559#post1399559

Mediator12: He's been pulling double duty this semester teaching but he did post on the eighth. He's not gone, just out of time.

REB: Was on and posted today, I mean today not a few hours ago yesterday. He talked about Brian Griese.

Winstoncup Bronco: Hasn't posted since February of last year. That's three but it took everyone a long to time to notice he was gone. :rofl:

Moonshiner: Obviously he posted in this thread.

Bronco inferno: Posted many times yesterday.

Ball hawk: Was last on the 27th of last month. A week and change. He was posting everyday so I'll give you that one, though I think the holidays have more to do with this than anything else.

Needa pass rush: Posted yesterday.

Tomestone RJ: Been a few weeks but I went back several pages and he posts in intervals of seven to ten days and in spurts. Not someone that posted a lot to begin with so I don't think there's anything wrong with him. At least I hope not. His last post was about getting hammered. :wiggle:

broncogary:Was on yesterday and posted a few times. The guy has two posts per day and met his quota, so this is also imagined.

iowa bronco fan: Last logged in on the 24th but go back and look at his post count. Since he joined in '01 he's gone months between posts.

SouthStandsJunkie: Was on tonight and posted. Made a nice post about Scheffler.

The Next Step: Oh, come on. Would you be here if you were a Raiders fan right now? The guy has some dignity.

So let's review. Of your list of 30 posters who are "no longer with us" Most have logged in the last three days and posted and the few that haven't didn't post that much to begin with. That leaves three: a couple that haven't been on in a few weeks, one that hasn't been on in a month and one that's been gone over a year.

Yes Baja, you are completely imagining this. No one is going anywhere. If you want to find them, I suggest you drop into the other sections of the board because you will find a wide variety of forums that are housing your friends and probably an even larger number of good posters that you didn't know existed!

I do know a number of people have cut back their visiting of this site because of how sick they were of the Cutler vs. Plummer arguments but the change was made and as things die down we'll see those few come back.

[Taco John]

I've never been one to dwell too much on the past, when the current moment is all you really have. So rather than lamenting what is missing, I'll drink a loaded eggnog to them (which I just poisoned with Chivas Royal 18) and make note of the folks who I have been enjoying lately...

I know I'm not going to cover them all, but here are a few...

Popps - People see our back and forth on the board, and might get the mistaken idea that we hate eachother, but that couldn't be further from the truth. I think we both do it because we actually enjoy the debate. Yeah, we needle eachother now and again, but we both know that we've got way too much in common to be enemies. He's passionate and has some great takes in between the daily football lessons that I give him every day. ;)

SoCal - I love reading SoCal's breakdowns each week. The coaches don't always do it like SoCal draws it up, but he gives plenty of food for thought going into the game. I especially like getting his take on college football players even if you have to run some of it through a UM homer filter. I'm never going to let him live down how horribly he missed on Leinart.

Kaylore - Watching Kaylore transition this season from being a solid supporter of Jake, to finally admitting the inevitable has been one of the most enjoyable things I've witnessed during the 10 or so years that I've been posting on Broncos forums. He tried to stay on that wagon, but the road got way too bumpy, and eventually he fell off the cart. His preseason camp reports, once again, proved to be worth their weight in gold. That was a very well balanced preview of our season.

Orange 4 Life - Love this guy. As passionate a Broncos fan as I've ever met, even if he has a tendancy to hold on to the steering column a little too long while everybody else is grabbing parachutes. Hey, you need someone to drive the plane into the mountain, right?

-Slap- Here we have the Bill Romanowski of message board culture in that he's a guy you absolutely love if he's on your side of the debate, but if he's not, you'd better come in wearing a cup. Slap is like Alec, in that he hates stupidity, with a key difference: it's not ironic. Slap has forgotten more sports than I've ever known, and I like getting his perspective on just about anything sports related.

ApaOps05 - I have no idea what the deal is with his username, but I've enjoyed his takes this season. An August 06 entry, he gets my vote for rookie of the year. Solid takes and generally respectful of those he might find disagreement with.

Clockwork Orange - Razor sharp with and a great working knowledge of sports to go with it. Whenever a player is in the news for something notorious, I find myself continuously clicking on the thread to see what barb CO is going to split my side with. Great poster with a great perspective on Broncos football.

BroncoBuff - Smart. Inquisitive. Always asking questions. I like Buff because he is always raising issues that are below the surface and trying to dig deeper in any situation.

Crushaholic - I met Crush at a tailgater, and have admired the guys dedication to the Broncos ever since. We don't see eye to eye on every issue, but Crush is always giving his take with a good amount of respect for the people he's making his points to. A good cat all around.

DomCasual - Another poster who splits my sides. This guy MUST be posting with a joke book for every occassion sitting on his desktop, because he's got one for everything.

BroncoSteven - This guy has a great eye for what's happening on the field, and always has a possible solution to fix the problems. When it comes to evaluating talent, I usually take a second look at what Steven is saying about a player, and find that he's usually pretty spot on.

Man there are so more... Garcia... OrangeBeard... Atlas... Dipso... AnthonyPacino... Fontaine... BroncoInferno... Arkansas Bronco... Mtbroncofan... Shack... Herc... Pendejo... bloodsunday... Elsid13... Rascal... Hotrod... Spider... TheDave... BMF... Sassy... Stormontheplains... smalltowngirl... MiniBronco... Blueflame... many many more...

I could go on for a long time. I hate to stop but I have to because I have too much stuff to do before I can hit the hay tonight... and I know I'm going to get myself in trouble for missing folks... (sorry) I just wanted to point out that while some folks may have trailed off, we've got a lot of great posters including a lot of new usernames here making a name for themselves.

This place never fails to amaze me when I sit and really think about it... But I guess I'm a little biased.

[Kaylore]

Kaylore - Watching Kaylore transition this season from being a solid supporter of Jake, to finally admitting the inevitable has been one of the most enjoyable things I've witnessed during the 10 or so years that I've been posting on Broncos forums. He tried to stay on that wagon, but the road got way too bumpy, and eventually he fell off the cart. His preseason camp reports, once again, proved to be worth their weight in gold. That was a very well balanced preview of our season.
Good grief, why? I'm glad someone enjoyed it because I hated it. What Jake did this season made for one of the most frustrating experiences for me watching football. I still can't believe someone would drop off like that. The seeds were sewn in training camp, then the preseason games got me kind of upset, but I really got upset with Rams game. I think the first Oakland game was the one that sent me over the edge. I had had it at that point.

I knew that Jay starting was inevitable when we drafted him, but had Jake played anywhere near like he did last year I'd be for keeping him in. Jake played his way out of the spot and that's probably the best way to do it...even if he played his way out of it a month ago, but you waited anyway. :~ohyah!:

[Taco John]

Good grief, why?


Because I knew it was going to happen... The signs were all there. You wanted to resist so badly, but each week it just kept getting worse and worse. It was like watching a jar of ants. You know what's going to happen, but it's still fun to see how the tunnels get dug. You saw Jay first hand in training camp, and I suspected this type of year from Plummer based on his every other year history... so I expected it to happen... :giggle:

[Blueflame]

I've never been one to dwell too much on the past, when the current moment is all you really have. So rather than lamenting what is missing, I'll drink a loaded eggnog to them (which I just poisoned with Chivas Royal 18) and make note of the folks who I have been enjoying lately...

I know I'm not going to cover them all, but here are a few...

Popps - People see our back and forth on the board, and might get the mistaken idea that we hate eachother, but that couldn't be further from the truth. I think we both do it because we actually enjoy the debate. Yeah, we needle eachother now and again, but we both know that we've got way too much in common to be enemies. He's passionate and has some great takes in between the daily football lessons that I give him every day. ;)

SoCal - I love reading SoCal's breakdowns each week. The coaches don't always do it like SoCal draws it up, but he gives plenty of food for thought going into the game. I especially like getting his take on college football players even if you have to run some of it through a UM homer filter. I'm never going to let him live down how horribly he missed on Leinart.

Kaylore - Watching Kaylore transition this season from being a solid supporter of Jake, to finally admitting the inevitable has been one of the most enjoyable things I've witnessed during the 10 or so years that I've been posting on Broncos forums. He tried to stay on that wagon, but the road got way too bumpy, and eventually he fell off the cart. His preseason camp reports, once again, proved to be worth their weight in gold. That was a very well balanced preview of our season.

Orange 4 Life - Love this guy. As passionate a Broncos fan as I've ever met, even if he has a tendancy to hold on to the steering column a little too long while everybody else is grabbing parachutes. Hey, you need someone to drive the plane into the mountain, right?

-Slap- Here we have the Bill Romanowski of message board culture in that he's a guy you absolutely love if he's on your side of the debate, but if he's not, you'd better come in wearing a cup. Slap is like Alec, in that he hates stupidity, with a key difference: it's not ironic. Slap has forgotten more sports than I've ever known, and I like getting his perspective on just about anything sports related.

ApaOps05 - I have no idea what the deal is with his username, but I've enjoyed his takes this season. An August 06 entry, he gets my vote for rookie of the year. Solid takes and generally respectful of those he might find disagreement with.

Clockwork Orange - Razor sharp with and a great working knowledge of sports to go with it. Whenever a player is in the news for something notorious, I find myself continuously clicking on the thread to see what barb CO is going to split my side with. Great poster with a great perspective on Broncos football.

BroncoBuff - Smart. Inquisitive. Always asking questions. I like Buff because he is always raising issues that are below the surface and trying to dig deeper in any situation.

Crushaholic - I met Crush at a tailgater, and have admired the guys dedication to the Broncos ever since. We don't see eye to eye on every issue, but Crush is always giving his take with a good amount of respect for the people he's making his points to. A good cat all around.

DomCasual - Another poster who splits my sides. This guy MUST be posting with a joke book for every occassion sitting on his desktop, because he's got one for everything.

BroncoSteven - This guy has a great eye for what's happening on the field, and always has a possible solution to fix the problems. When it comes to evaluating talent, I usually take a second look at what Steven is saying about a player, and find that he's usually pretty spot on.

Man there are so more... Garcia... OrangeBeard... Atlas... Dipso... AnthonyPacino... Fontaine... BroncoInferno... Arkansas Bronco... Mtbroncofan... Shack... Herc... Pendejo... bloodsunday... Elsid13... Rascal... Hotrod... Spider... TheDave... BMF... Sassy... Stormontheplains... smalltowngirl... MiniBronco... Blueflame... many many more...

I could go on for a long time. I hate to stop but I have to because I have too much stuff to do before I can hit the hay tonight... and I know I'm going to get myself in trouble for missing folks... (sorry) I just wanted to point out that while some folks may have trailed off, we've got a lot of great posters including a lot of new usernames here making a name for themselves.

This place never fails to amaze me when I sit and really think about it... But I guess I'm a little biased.


A toast in return, TJ... to you and to the OM community... back in '01, I don't think any of us imagined in our wildest dreams the way this place has grown and evolved. Well done. :notworthy

[Mile High Mojoe]

I've never been one to dwell too much on the past, when the current moment is all you really have. So rather than lamenting what is missing, I'll drink a loaded eggnog to them (which I just poisoned with Chivas Royal 18) and make note of the folks who I have been enjoying lately...

I know I'm not going to cover them all, but here are a few...

Popps - People see our back and forth on the board, and might get the mistaken idea that we hate eachother, but that couldn't be further from the truth. I think we both do it because we actually enjoy the debate. Yeah, we needle eachother now and again, but we both know that we've got way too much in common to be enemies. He's passionate and has some great takes in between the daily football lessons that I give him every day. ;)

SoCal - I love reading SoCal's breakdowns each week. The coaches don't always do it like SoCal draws it up, but he gives plenty of food for thought going into the game. I especially like getting his take on college football players even if you have to run some of it through a UM homer filter. I'm never going to let him live down how horribly he missed on Leinart.

Kaylore - Watching Kaylore transition this season from being a solid supporter of Jake, to finally admitting the inevitable has been one of the most enjoyable things I've witnessed during the 10 or so years that I've been posting on Broncos forums. He tried to stay on that wagon, but the road got way too bumpy, and eventually he fell off the cart. His preseason camp reports, once again, proved to be worth their weight in gold. That was a very well balanced preview of our season.

Orange 4 Life - Love this guy. As passionate a Broncos fan as I've ever met, even if he has a tendancy to hold on to the steering column a little too long while everybody else is grabbing parachutes. Hey, you need someone to drive the plane into the mountain, right?

-Slap- Here we have the Bill Romanowski of message board culture in that he's a guy you absolutely love if he's on your side of the debate, but if he's not, you'd better come in wearing a cup. Slap is like Alec, in that he hates stupidity, with a key difference: it's not ironic. Slap has forgotten more sports than I've ever known, and I like getting his perspective on just about anything sports related.

ApaOps05 - I have no idea what the deal is with his username, but I've enjoyed his takes this season. An August 06 entry, he gets my vote for rookie of the year. Solid takes and generally respectful of those he might find disagreement with.

Clockwork Orange - Razor sharp with and a great working knowledge of sports to go with it. Whenever a player is in the news for something notorious, I find myself continuously clicking on the thread to see what barb CO is going to split my side with. Great poster with a great perspective on Broncos football.

BroncoBuff - Smart. Inquisitive. Always asking questions. I like Buff because he is always raising issues that are below the surface and trying to dig deeper in any situation.

Crushaholic - I met Crush at a tailgater, and have admired the guys dedication to the Broncos ever since. We don't see eye to eye on every issue, but Crush is always giving his take with a good amount of respect for the people he's making his points to. A good cat all around.

DomCasual - Another poster who splits my sides. This guy MUST be posting with a joke book for every occassion sitting on his desktop, because he's got one for everything.

BroncoSteven - This guy has a great eye for what's happening on the field, and always has a possible solution to fix the problems. When it comes to evaluating talent, I usually take a second look at what Steven is saying about a player, and find that he's usually pretty spot on.

Man there are so more... Garcia... OrangeBeard... Atlas... Dipso... AnthonyPacino... Fontaine... BroncoInferno... Arkansas Bronco... Mtbroncofan... Shack... Herc... Pendejo... bloodsunday... Elsid13... Rascal... Hotrod... Spider... TheDave... BMF... Sassy... Stormontheplains... smalltowngirl... MiniBronco... Blueflame... many many more...

I could go on for a long time. I hate to stop but I have to because I have too much stuff to do before I can hit the hay tonight... and I know I'm going to get myself in trouble for missing folks... (sorry) I just wanted to point out that while some folks may have trailed off, we've got a lot of great posters including a lot of new usernames here making a name for themselves.

This place never fails to amaze me when I sit and really think about it... But I guess I'm a little biased.I know I'm a newbie, I may be anti-Popps at times and I don't have a single photo of Discoman Scott but I do have these:

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f6/mrmilehigh/8054.jpg

Elway Autograph at the HOF, finally after 20 years & $300 I got it.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f6/mrmilehigh/ac0b.jpg

Mecklenberg Autograph at the HOF in 2004

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f6/mrmilehigh/2161.jpg

Meck & Gradishar at the HOF Game 2004, Grad is signing an Autograph for me here. Louie Wright and Bill Thompson were sitting right in front of them at the game.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f6/mrmilehigh/73ad.jpg


Gradishar at the HOF, I could never get close enough to get a photo with him, to me the guy is my all-time Broncos Hero behind Elway.

Does this impress you just a little Taco?

[Taco John]

They're all very cool. I was just down the road from you when you got that Mecklenberg photo. I'll never forget that day. :)

[Mile High Mojoe]

They're all very cool. I was just down the road from you when you got that Mecklenberg photo. I'll never forget that day. :)To me it was the last great day in Broncos history until we get the 3rd ring nothing holds a candle to it. Call my standards high but that's the way I see it. I just hope Gradishar goes in next. If he gets in me and my Brother will be booking a flight to Canton in August.

[elsid13]

Do we do the group hung thing now??? Because I don't want to be between Spider and Pez, they smell funny.....like old moth balls

[clarkster]

speaking on behalf of those, after being gone for a while, its difficult to get back into the board. and honestly, theres days where i just dont have the inclination to wade through the 50000 posts about the same thing.
philly was always welcome, winston cup was pretty cool too.
smurfs in the Nav, and its hard sometimes to get here.
bendog was always the wise one.
the board has come along farther than i wouldve ever imagined though, and thats a testament to the mods, and one man and a dream(TJ)

[-Slap-]

-Slap- Here we have the Bill Romanowski of message board culture in that he's a guy you absolutely love if he's on your side of the debate, but if he's not, you'd better come in wearing a cup. Slap is like Alec, in that he hates stupidity, with a key difference: it's not ironic. Slap has forgotten more sports than I've ever known, and I like getting his perspective on just about anything sports related.

Romo wishes he was Polish. A lot of Belarusians try to pass. Its sad.

[DarkHorse]

I'm not on that list but i've slowed my posting to a crawl anymore. This site has turned into broncosbashers.com as far as i'm concerned. Way too many chicken littles running around here off of their leash.

Just an observation.

[baja]

Fine. I'll prove it now.

FADERPROOF: Has been gone since October. This I noticed when we didn't have any "Elam sucks" threads going around. That's one

Bendog: Logged in yesterday

Old dude: It appears he's on now (unless I'm reading the moderator thing wrong). He also rarely posts, and while I agree they are usually great takes, we can't force good things. :)

Pezman: On now. He's mostly been a goofy guy that shows up to lampoon someone and spread good cheer. He actually doesn't talk football all that much, though.

Tredici: Was on December 9th and posted last December 3rd. She works with veterans and its the Christmas season. A great poster but also a busy one.

phillybroncosnut: Last posted on the 30th. He's always gone two week periods where we wouldn't see him and then he'd post.

Meck77: He was logged in today and posted two days ago several times.

errand: Was on a few days ago and last post was on the 6th.

Mtbrncofn: Ah, my favorite. Mount Brown Coffin. :welcome: She's on right now and posting under our nose! She is a big hockey fan and is spending most of her time in that forum.

orange 4 life: On today and posted in the main forum today.

quietiger: Was logged in yesterday meaning Monday, posted many times and will probably be on again shortly. He's on the other side of the earth so he's in a very different time zone.

SJ Bronco: Ok this is the the second one that hasn't been here. I'm sure things are fine.

Smurf: Was on on the third and remember he's in the Navy so he's never been someone who posted a great deal.

thedave: Was on a few hours ago and posted.

PatsWin 2002: Same as above

HEAV: Same as above

Hulamau: Is on right now and has posted many times in the last few days.

wabbit: Was just on and posted - http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?p=1399559#post1399559

Mediator12: He's been pulling double duty this semester teaching but he did post on the eighth. He's not gone, just out of time.

REB: Was on and posted today, I mean today not a few hours ago yesterday. He talked about Brian Griese.

Winstoncup Bronco: Hasn't posted since February of last year. That's three but it took everyone a long to time to notice he was gone. :rofl:

Moonshiner: Obviously he posted in this thread.

Bronco inferno: Posted many times yesterday.

Ball hawk: Was last on the 27th of last month. A week and change. He was posting everyday so I'll give you that one, though I think the holidays have more to do with this than anything else.

Needa pass rush: Posted yesterday.

Tomestone RJ: Been a few weeks but I went back several pages and he posts in intervals of seven to ten days and in spurts. Not someone that posted a lot to begin with so I don't think there's anything wrong with him. At least I hope not. His last post was about getting hammered. :wiggle:

broncogary:Was on yesterday and posted a few times. The guy has two posts per day and met his quota, so this is also imagined.

iowa bronco fan: Last logged in on the 24th but go back and look at his post count. Since he joined in '01 he's gone months between posts.

SouthStandsJunkie: Was on tonight and posted. Made a nice post about Scheffler.

The Next Step: Oh, come on. Would you be here if you were a Raiders fan right now? The guy has some dignity.

So let's review. Of your list of 30 posters who are "no longer with us" Most have logged in the last three days and posted and the few that haven't didn't post that much to begin with. That leaves three: a couple that haven't been on in a few weeks, one that hasn't been on in a month and one that's been gone over a year.

Yes Baja, you are completely imagining this. No one is going anywhere. If you want to find them, I suggest you drop into the other sections of the board because you will find a wide variety of forums that are housing your friends and probably an even larger number of good posters that you didn't know existed!

I do know a number of people have cut back their visiting of this site because of how sick they were of the Cutler vs. Plummer arguments but the change was made and as things die down we'll see those few come back.

Well you are a bit handicapped here because you are attempting to make a case about a community that existed before you joined it.

The Mane is still a good Broncos Board, there was a time however when it was much more fun and that is not something you can argue against because you did not experience it. As to those posters you offer negative opinions about I wish you had left that alone as this is not what the thread is about, it's about the fact they have left or post considerably less not about what you personally thought of their value to the board.

[Mile High Shack]

things aren't static baja, they change

there are still a lot of old timers here

[baja]

<b>things aren't static baja, they change</b>

there are still a lot of old timers here

I think that is what I am saying and change is not always improvement. This is no biggie though just an observation.

If you want to see a biggie though go to the WPR forum and watch the video I linked in the threat "The most important documentary you will ever watch"

[Mile High Shack]

I think that is what I am saying and change is not always improvement. This is no biggie though just an observation.

If you want to see a biggie though go to the WPR forum and watch the video I linked in the threat "The most important documentary you will ever watch"

I haven't really gone in there after the whole fiasco with the dude getting turned in by beerslug

I might check it out though, you find some interesting things

[DomCasual]

I haven't really gone in there after the whole fiasco with the dude getting turned in by beerslug

I might check it out though, you find some interesting things

I haven't been following it over there - we know for sure it was Beerslug?

[baja]

I haven't been following it over there - <b>we know for sure it was Beerslug?</b>

No! Ironically people are doing exactly to Beer Slug what they are outrageous about that was done to SteveTensi13, accusing him without any proof.

[bronco militia]

I think it's baja that's changed........he reminds me more of LABF than anything


Baja, you used to be a lot of fun in the old days

[baja]

I haven't really gone in there after the whole fiasco with the dude getting turned in by beerslug

<b>I might check it out though, you find some interesting things</b>

I guarantee you this will blow you away!!!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4312730277175242198&q=

[baja]

I think it's baja that's changed........he reminds me more of LABF than anything


Baja, you used to be a lot of fun in the old days

ha ha I still am fun. maybe you got old BM. ;D

[baja]

I think it's baja that's changed........he reminds me more of LABF than anything


Baja, you used to be a lot of fun in the old days

i did notice that after you post here you go back to South Stands and smugly declare what a crapy place this is. What's up with that?

[ludo21]

If you want a smaller community either make this a pay site, or make another board. :)

[bronco militia]

i did notice that after you post here you go back to South Stands and smugly declare what a crapy place this is. What's up with that?


not really...

[bronco militia]

ha ha I still am fun. maybe you got old BM. ;D


you hang out more at the politics thread....you tell me who's getting old

[baja]

you hang out more at the politics thread....you tell me who's getting old

Ya mean you have to be "old" to be concerned about your country???

[bronco militia]

Ya mean you have to be "old" to be concerned about your country???


it just seems like your concern for your country dominates any discussion at the mane or the south stands....

JMO

[orange 4 life]

Not enough Bendog lately, but I think he got really disgusted by all the Jake/Jay bickering.

yeah, i think its safe to say ALOT of people got sick of it.

it just got to the point where it wasnt fun anymore. it was nothing but frustration, so i spent more time reading books, watching movies, chatting on my GD board, etc.

[Sir Mawn]

The Next Step is/was one of the best posters here.

[Kaylore]

Well you are a bit handicapped here because you are attempting to make a case about a community that existed before you joined it.
What are you talking about? I'm just showing you almost all the posters you were upset weren't here anymore are still here and posting at the same rate they always do. Whether or not I came in 2004 doesn't change the fact that they are still here now.

The Mane is still a good Broncos Board, there was a time however when it was much more fun and that is not something you can argue against because you did not experience it.
I can't argue if something was more fun for you earlier nor would I try to do so. I can definitely tell you that it has been for me since I joined. I think it's been crazy lately because of the QB controversy but we're coming out of that so things will only get better. There are some final aftershocks of the upset Plummer-or-death crowd, but this too will pass.

As to those posters you offer negative opinions about I wish you had left that alone as this is not what the thread is about, it's about the fact they have left or post considerably less not about what you personally thought of their value to the board.
Man, what are you talking about? I didn't say anything negative about them! You're getting hysterical about problems that don't exist! If you are upset because I said a poster didn't post much, that's just the truth. You can't complain someone doesn't post anymore if they only post once a week and have only ever done so.

Look Baja, I was trying to show you that everything is fine and the people you like are still here. As to whether or not it's as "fun" for you as it used to be, that's totally subjective and everyone will have a different answer. All I can tell you is almost all of the people you were worried have left us are still right here and posting as we speak. I would ask you to consider if your sour mood is a result of the team losing and the fighting over Cutler Plummer before you worry we're living in a ghost town in the making.

[Kaylore]

you hang out more at the politics thread.
Getting heavily involved in politics makes a lot of people bitter and miserable. I decided it wasn't worth it and moved on. I still have my views and I still follow it but not like I used to. Life is much better than a lot of people think it is. :)

[baja]

it just seems like your concern for your country dominates any discussion at the mane or the south stands....

JMO

You have a point BM. I guess I am distraught with the knowledge that the United States is slowly day by day being turned into a police state and only a few even see it. You could say it has become an overriding concern of mine and I make no apology for it. I just wish more of us citizens would wake up while there is still time.

[theAPAOps5]

ApaOps05 - I have no idea what the deal is with his username, but I've enjoyed his takes this season. An August 06 entry, he gets my vote for rookie of the year. Solid takes and generally respectful of those he might find disagreement with.


Hey TJ thanks for the shout out! Point of Clarification for my screen name.

I am called an Operations Specialist at Centennial Airport. Basically a plane that crashes or is in trouble I QB the response and get the equipment to the scene or staged as quick as possible. The identifier for centennial is KAPA, APA for short. My call sign is Ops 5. So I use ApaOps5 on here.

I have seen other sites go through these growing pains. It usually is cyclical and things will calm down. I bet you see times where the old timers make a rebound then leave. You also will get some new cool people. The stooges they usually have low attention span and go away. Well thats just my observation from a rookie.

[theAPAOps5]

yeah, i think its safe to say ALOT of people got sick of it.

it just got to the point where it wasnt fun anymore. it was nothing but frustration, so i spent more time reading books, watching movies, chatting on my GD board, etc.

There is a Grateful Dead board? That is awesome as that band and its original fan base just seem like the type that wouldn't participate in an internet board. That is pretty cool stuff. My stepdad is a huge GD fan I will have to let him know about it.

[baja]

Hey TJ thanks for the shout out! Point of Clarification for my screen name.

I am called an Operations Specialist at Centennial Airport. Basically a plane that crashes or is in trouble I QB the response and get the equipment to the scene or staged as quick as possible. The identifier for centennial is KAPA, APA for short. My call sign is Ops 5. So I use ApaOps5 on here.

I have seen other sites go through these growing pains. It usually is cyclical and things will calm down. I bet you see times where the old timers make a rebound then leave. You also will get some new cool people. The stooges they usually have low attention span and go away. Well thats just my observation from a rookie.

Just wanted to mention I think you are a great addition to the mane IMHO.

[orange 4 life]

There is a Grateful Dead board? That is awesome as that band and its original fan base just seem like the type that wouldn't participate in an internet board. That is pretty cool stuff. My stepdad is a huge GD fan I will have to let him know about it.

there are quite a few actually.

alot of grate (spelled that way on all GD related sites :thumbsup: ) people, and alot of grate memories to be shared.
some of the kindest people you could hope to meet. ive had numerous cd's sent to me simply because i made a comment in the forum about a particular show, and the person reading had a copy of it (if you werent aware, we deadheads are BIG into the taping/trading/sharing of GD shows through the years) and sent it just to be a nice person and asking nothing in return.

also, i think its important to note that the fact that jerry has passed does NOT mean that there isnt new GD related music being played and created.
as the GD song says "the music never stopped."

there are many GD related sites and boards, though my opinion is that ratdog.org is FAR AND AWAY the best of the bunch.

bob weir (rythm guitarist and along with jerry took turns singing lead through all the years) has his own band ratdog, and they play 2 set GD style shows.
about 60-70% of it is GD songs, and the rest is made up of new material and some classic cover tunes (dylan, willie dixon, chuck berry, john lennon, etc.).
his band is playing longer, louder, and stronger than ever before, and some of the shows are so powerful as to warrant a comparison to the pre-jerry material.

anyway, tell your pops to come on board.
tell him i said its time to get on "the bus to never ever land".
he'll know what it means. :thumbsup:
im "gdjake" over there. peace :peace:


jake

[orange 4 life]

ps- did you think we hippies (and reformed hippies) were too busy having flashbacks to learn to use a computer? :giggle:

[theAPAOps5]

ps- did you think we hippies (and reformed hippies) were too busy having flashbacks to learn to use a computer? :giggle:

Oh no nothing like that. I just know that many of the original deadheads were too much of a free spirit to spend time on a board to keep it going. I guess that is just my youth and naive thinking on that subject. I guess I just never thought about it and my first reaction was what I just said. My pops is over in egypt right now teaching the Egyptian military to fly the Apache helicopter so I think his web access is limited. I will definately mention that site to him.

[orange 4 life]

pps- while im partial to the late 70's/80's dead and the brief period from '90 to '92 where vince welnyk AND bruce hornsby played keys, there are gems everywhere, and im listening to one of the LAST gems right now.

kaylore might even appreciate this one.
2/21/95 at the delta center in SLC.

one of the grate things about a band that plays different songs every night is their ability to wow a crowd with the setlist.
for the 1st time at this show, the opener was bobby's song "salt lake city", and then the 2nd tune was jerry's "friend of the devil" which features the line "...i spent the night in utah and he came up in the hills."

needless to say, the crowd went bananas.

ahhh, the memories.
two things im never at a loss for words about.
the denver broncos and the grateful dead. ;D

[DomCasual]

ps- did you think we hippies (and reformed hippies) were too busy having flashbacks to learn to use a computer? :giggle:

Well, yes. :)

[Clockwork Orange]

Hey TJ thanks for the shout out! Point of Clarification for my screen name.

I am called an Operations Specialist at Centennial Airport. Basically a plane that crashes or is in trouble I QB the response and get the equipment to the scene or staged as quick as possible. The identifier for centennial is KAPA, APA for short. My call sign is Ops 5. So I use ApaOps5 on here.

I have seen other sites go through these growing pains. It usually is cyclical and things will calm down. I bet you see times where the old timers make a rebound then leave. You also will get some new cool people. The stooges they usually have low attention span and go away. Well thats just my observation from a rookie.

I work right next to Centennial Airport.

Small world. :thumbs:

[theAPAOps5]

I work right next to Centennial Airport.

Small world. :thumbs:

Where at?

[Clockwork Orange]

Where at?

IHS. Just to the west of Centennial Airport.

[orange 4 life]

Oh no nothing like that. I just know that many of the original deadheads were too much of a free spirit to spend time on a board to keep it going. I guess that is just my youth and naive thinking on that subject. I guess I just never thought about it and my first reaction was what I just said. My pops is over in egypt right now teaching the Egyptian military to fly the Apache helicopter so I think his web access is limited. I will definately mention that site to him.

i was just playin buddy.

most of us are on the computer so we CAN keep it going.
"what a long strange trip its been" indeed, and the trip isnt over.
we carry jerry with us wherever we go. he's in our hearts and souls.
we share our memories, we share the music (both new and old), and we try and spread the word.

also, MANY of us settled down, had families, cut our hair, and joined society.
im definately one of those people, as the people i work with now cant believe it when they see pics of the same guy with long blonde hair halfway down his back (held out of my face with a rolled up bandana) wearing a tye dye, cut off jeans, and sandals.
heck, i MYSELF cant believe it sometimes!! :P

still though, in our HEARTS we never "got off the bus".
we never changed our basic belief system.

its not about drugs, long hair, or being a peta member (im a carnivore).
its about being the best person you can be.
its about trying to spread LOVE in a world where hate is much more readily available.
that never changes, and neither does our love for the dead!!

[ZachKC]

Does this impress you just a little Taco?

ROFL!

[alkemical]

wow, i don't think i ever was a real hippy.

[theAPAOps5]

IHS. Just to the west of Centennial Airport.

I know IHS over in Inverness right?

[Clockwork Orange]

I know IHS over in Inverness right?

That's the place.

[baja]

http://wild-bohemian.com/images/colin-m1.jpg

Complements of hat god

[BroncoInferno]

Well the reason why i post at http://www.thesouthstands.com more for football than the OM - is i can actually get into a more or less 'real' discussion withsomeone. It's so hard to keep up with 6billion duplicate threads that all have the same converstation with different players.

That's my reason, in a nutshell. I still post but, as you say, it's hard to keep individual debates going with a lot of stuff to wade through. I actually like to post most frequently in the offseason. Overall board activity is down and it's easier to have sustained debates. Plus, speculating about free agency and the draft is a lot like waiting for Christmas if you're a diehard.

[bronco militia]

I have never met anyone from here or from the http://www.thesouthstands.com in person -

But there is a core group of people that i've talked to for years and some of them helped me out of a very dire situation.

I'd like to meet them - but they are very scared of me.


ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

we'll run into each other one of these days

[orange 4 life]

http://wild-bohemian.com/images/colin-m1.jpg

Complements of hat god

way to go hat god!!!!!

by the way, you just reminded me about that orange crush hat you found for me!!
its trucker style, so i put it under a box for months at a time to squash down the foam.
my wife still cracks up every time i wear it, but i love it.

thanks again hat god. :giggle: :thumbs:

[orange 4 life]

the good old days indeed.

[alkemical]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

we'll run into each other one of these days



no doubt - i'll bring some voodoo dolls of faider fans.

[Taco John]

I'll tell you what, it's nowhere near as ugly in here now as it was when Jake was making his exit. That's because, by and large, Jake is a likable player. It got much uglier with Griese because folks couldn't keep themselves from really laying on the hate when talking about the guy.

This was a walk in the park by comparison.

[ak1971]

Hey TJ thanks for the shout out! Point of Clarification for my screen name.

I am called an Operations Specialist at Centennial Airport. Basically a plane that crashes or is in trouble I QB the response and get the equipment to the scene or staged as quick as possible. The identifier for centennial is KAPA, APA for short. My call sign is Ops 5. So I use ApaOps5 on here.

I have seen other sites go through these growing pains. It usually is cyclical and things will calm down. I bet you see times where the old timers make a rebound then leave. You also will get some new cool people. The stooges they usually have low attention span and go away. Well thats just my observation from a rookie.

so I assume you are always busy..some plane is always crashing on Lincoln.

[elsid13]

so I assume you are always busy..some plane is always crashing on Lincoln.

Flying that the Devil's work.

[Mile High Mojoe]

I'm not on that list but i've slowed my posting to a crawl anymore. This site has turned into broncosbashers.com as far as i'm concerned. Way too many chicken littles running around here off of their leash.

Just an observation.I've only been here since August but I have to agree. Whether it's oldtimers or newbies to me this site has seemed more like a place for people to bash than to confirm the good. I know the Jay/Jake debated was heated and it's probably played a big part in it. Still it's amazing to me how many old and new posters on this site are ready to jump off the bandwagon and concede the season.

Back in the day (before the net) any true Broncos fan may have ranted a little bit about the problems of the team but this site seems to take the negative spin to a whole new level.

[broncocalijohn]

The Dave came in last week and we had a great discussion on Togo's sandwiches. I think we agreed on the #9 when he helped foodjack a Charger or Matt thread.

[BroncoInSkinland]

I've only been here since August but I have to agree. Whether it's oldtimers or newbies to me this site has seemed more like a place for people to bash than to confirm the good. I know the Jay/Jake debated was heated and it's probably played a big part in it. Still it's amazing to me how many old and new posters on this site are ready to jump off the bandwagon and concede the season.

Back in the day (before the net) any true Broncos fan may have ranted a little bit about the problems of the team but this site seems to take the negative spin to a whole new level.

It's the nature of the net IMHO. It's a good thing digital pitchforks and torches can't do any lasting damage or the whole world would be ripped apart by bloggers. It doesn't transfer to the real world though. I got into a great conversation with a lady last night at Union station. She saw my hat, was a fan, and decided to join me for a bite to eat and talk about the team.

Why did we jump to a lead against SD at our house? It was the 12th man. Broncos fans are still as rabid, at least in person. It's the internet that allows us to gripe in annonymity fueling the fires of negativity. Chalk it all up as worst case speculations and realize that the crowd at the stadium and the idiots in front of the TV's (like me) still cheer just as long and loud as they always did.

[Dagmar]

The Dave came in last week and we had a great discussion on Togo's sandwiches. I think we agreed on the #9 when he helped foodjack a Charger or Matt thread.

The food chat hijacking of idiotic trolls with nothing interesting to say threads has been awesome!

[theAPAOps5]

so I assume you are always busy..some plane is always crashing on Lincoln.

Yeah that was a rough stint there. Sad thing is every and I mean every crash could have been avoidable. Either it was direct pilot error or an inflight emergency that the pilot did not respond approriately to. Its the hardest part of my job as we are usually first on scene and the family members usually contact us first.

Hopefully that string of accidents has passed.

[TheDave]

The Dave came in last week and we had a great discussion on Togo's sandwiches. I think we agreed on the #9 when he helped foodjack a Charger or Matt thread.


mmmmm #9

[Master___Pain]

A poster from the ESPN boards sent me here in 2003....I also knew gunns and Alec, GreatBronco, cupster33 and a handful of others who I'm drawing blanks on.

I'm glad I got to know a handful of the posters on here personally. They know who they are.

I have to give a huge shout out to Meck, Disco, AK and the rest of the tailgate crew. Some great memories there.

I've met some classy husker fans that don't feel obliged to tell you how classy they are here, that was refreshing.

TJ and crew run the site the best they know how, sometimes I don't agree but it's still a damn good site.

I think the WRP forum has a carry over effect to the other forums here and the mud that's slung over there gets the rest of the board dirty.

There are a bunch of good posters who I've definitely not seen eye to eye with but I respect there views/takes.

Anyways, Cheers! Go Broncos!

[Broncoman13]

FADERPROOF, Bendog, Old dude, Pezman, Tredici, phillybroncosnut, Meck77, errand, Mtbrncofn, orange 4 life, quietiger, SJ Bronco, Smurf, thedave, PatsWin 2002, HEAV, Hulamau, wabbit, Mediator12, REB, Winstoncup Bronco, Moonshiner, Bronco inferno, Ball hawk, Needa pass rush, Tomestone RJ, broncogary, iowa bronco fan, SouthStandsJunkie, The Next Step.

All of these very fun posters were regulars at one time and they all now post sparingly or not at all.

What happened to the good old days?

Not sure what happened to all of these guys/gal but you are right Baja. They were/are all great posters. I really miss TNS's takes. All of the guys on there are obviously great people and all of them have/had great takes. But, TNS was a Raider fan that was grounded and could talk football like few others on the Mane. His game was well rounded and he could talk BIG 12 football for days. A diehard Aggie fan that's not afraid to give a Longhorn credit is the epitomy of somebody that keeps it real. I hope he is doing well. Last I heard from him he was still in Bryan/College Station. Not sure what he's doing these days? IMO, he's a rival fan that brings it just as strong someone like Patswin. Hopefully he'll come back around and everything is going well in his life. Same with the rest of your list. I hope all is well with them. Greg, Randy, Bryan and several others from that list are people that I consider friends in addition to fellow Bronco fans.

Atlas is correct too. There are a lot of new posters that have great takes as well. We're a board divided right now but we'll get over it and all come back strong as ever. I think Khan said it best when he said it will get worse before it gets better. As with our Broncos we have to make adjustments or get adjusted rather, to the new personnel as well.

[Broncoman13]

Yeah that was a rough stint there. Sad thing is every and I mean every crash could have been avoidable. Either it was direct pilot error or an inflight emergency that the pilot did not respond approriately to. Its the hardest part of my job as we are usually first on scene and the family members usually contact us first.

Hopefully that string of accidents has passed.


FAA Inspector?

[theAPAOps5]

FAA Inspector?

Operations Specialist, for the Airport itself. I make sure the we meet all FAA standards and handle emergency response.

[errand]

Bunch of bandwagon, fairweather fans.

Which explains why you spend more time on this Broncos board than the KC board, right?

Personally, I'm growing in my faith as a Chritian, and as I mentioned in another thread, these message boards tend to be a good temptation for me to argue way too much, with people I've never met.

I've not been in the politcal forums in about 2-3 months now, and I post here on occasion. It's not that I'm disatisfied with the board or hate the people that post here. I'm just trying to be a better person and arguing alot doesn't get me to where I want to be as a person or Christian.

[baja]

Operations Specialist, for the Airport itself. I make sure the we meet all FAA standards and handle emergency response.

I am always curious, how does one end up in a job like that. I mean it's not like you say I want to be the guy that deals with aviation disasters when I grow up,

[Broncoman13]

I agree with that Errand. Sometimes it's easier to just not post on the Mane b/c you know your POV isn't always shared by everybody else...which leads to attacks and then you feel compelled to attack back or defend. Not to say I'm not guilty myself. Slap, of all people, pointed it out to me a few months ago and I've made it a point to 'try' not to post at all if I don't agree. Though I freely admit that I can't always hold back.

[baja]

Which explains why you spend more time on this Broncos board than the KC board, right?

Personally, I'm growing in my faith as a Chritian, and as I mentioned in another thread, these message boards tend to be a good temptation for me to argue way too much, with people I've never met.

I've not been in the politcal forums in about 2-3 months now, and I post here on occasion. It's not that I'm disatisfied with the board or hate the people that post here. I'm just trying to be a better person and arguing alot doesn't get me to where I want to be as a person or Christian.

Forget it you are a lost cause.

[Broncoman13]

I am always curious, how does one end up in a job like that. I mean it's not like you say I want to be the guy that deals with aviation disasters when I grow up,

I was close to taking an FAA Avi Inspector position about a year ago. Would have taken rotations for Incident Investigations as part of the "other duties as assigned". I think it would have been challenging and interesting, but the location wasn't right.

[Spider]

Which explains why you spend more time on this Broncos board than the KC board, right?

Personally, I'm growing in my faith as a Chritian, and as I mentioned in another thread, these message boards tend to be a good temptation for me to argue way too much, with people I've never met.

I've not been in the politcal forums in about 2-3 months now, and I post here on occasion. It's not that I'm disatisfied with the board or hate the people that post here. I'm just trying to be a better person and arguing alot doesn't get me to where I want to be as a person or Christian.

well welcome back.............seriously

[Master___Pain]

Forget it you are a lost cause.

Is this tongue in cheek? I'm hoping so....

[baja]

well welcome back.............seriously

You just miss someone to argue with who you kidding...

[baja]

Is this tongue in cheek? I'm hoping so....

Well he is on my list of guys I miss Einstein

[Spider]

You just miss someone to argue with who you kidding...

No , things got out of hand , emotions ran high , got the better of all of us , we attacked each other reps and dems , we was stubborn in our beliefs , unwilling to bend or listen , A lot of times I attacked errand for his political and religious beliefs , i for one am offering an olive branch as well as an apology for my part , in the crap that went down ............

[Spider]

Well he is on my list of guys I miss Einstein

;D minor detail ............

[Master___Pain]

Well he is on my list of guys I miss Einstein

I overlooked his name, honest mistake....lighten up baja, sheesh. As soon as I read Spider's post I realized you were being felicitous. No need for the insults.

[baja]

I overlooked his name, honest mistake....lighten up baja, sheesh. As soon as I read Spider's post I realized you were being felicitous. No need for the insults.

I thought calling someone Einstein would be a good thing ;D

[baja]

No , things got out of hand , emotions ran high , got the better of all of us , we attacked each other reps and dems , we was stubborn in our beliefs , unwilling to bend or listen , A lot of times I attacked errand for his political and religious beliefs , i for one am offering an olive branch as well as an apology for my part , in the crap that went down ............


Damn I hate Christmas time...

[Master___Pain]

I thought calling someone Einstein would be a good thing ;D

lol, thanks, I think.....;D

[Spider]

Damn I hate Christmas time...

;D thats ok I have a bunch of new bestest internet buddies .Chugger fans .they love me

[elsid13]

;D thats ok I have a bunch of new bestest internet buddies .Chugger fans .they love me

Who doesn't love you, slut ;D.

[Spider]

Who doesn't love you, slut ;D.
;D

[elsid13]

;D

I love it when you're speech-less. Now if we could figure how to Hotrod to not be so serious and stop banning Pez.

[Spider]

I love it when you're speech-less. Now if we could figure how to Hotrod to not be so serious and stop banning Pez.

LOL Hotrod is quick on the ban trigger ;D

[theAPAOps5]

I am always curious, how does one end up in a job like that. I mean it's not like you say I want to be the guy that deals with aviation disasters when I grow up,

Well I was at CU Boulder struggling trying to find what I wanted and partying my way out of school. I decided enough was enough and ever since I could talk I wanted to be a pilot.

I was working one summer and heard an ad for Metro States Aviation program. Next semester I was enrolled and on my way to being a pilot. Started flying and got an offer from the Navy to finish school and then enter flight school. Well I went and took my physical and found I had a slight lazy eye and could not get it to achieve 20/20 even with glasses. So again I was stuck trying to figure out what I wanted to do.

Long story short I ended up switching my major to Aviation Management. I applied for an internship at Centennial Airport and got it. From day one I loved my job. I am not stuck at a desk, I get to be outside, and I manage aircraft emergencies and get to help people in trouble.

[baja]

It so very wonderful to love what you do, that's a great blessing.

[theAPAOps5]

I was close to taking an FAA Avi Inspector position about a year ago. Would have taken rotations for Incident Investigations as part of the "other duties as assigned". I think it would have been challenging and interesting, but the location wasn't right.

You should look into NTSB investigation. They do all the big wrecks. FAA really only investigates crashes to find fault as in with the pilot. They spend more time going after the pilot rather than the cause. NTSB is the one who tries to find out why and then mandates the FAA find a solution.

[theAPAOps5]

It so very wonderful to love what you do, that's a great blessing.

Its amazing what a difference it makes. I get up and want to go to work. My friends all talk about how much they dread Mondays. I am very fortunate.

[baja]

For what it's worth there some great books/ exercises for improving lazy eyes.


http://www.childrensvision.com/lazy_eyes.htm

[theAPAOps5]

For what it's worth there some great books/ exercises for improving lazy eyes.


http://www.childrensvision.com/lazy_eyes.htm

I actually bought a program a pilot set up to improve vision. I just never have gotten into getting it corrected. Pick up enough pieces of an airplane and see enough chared remains it takes the joy of flying away.

[Taco John]

I overlooked his name, honest mistake....lighten up baja, sheesh. As soon as I read Spider's post I realized you were being felicitous. No need for the insults.


I'm not sure "felicitous" is the word you're looking for there...

[Taco John]

For what it's worth there some great books/ exercises for improving lazy eyes.


http://www.childrensvision.com/lazy_eyes.htm



Know of any books that help correct lazy ass? :~ohyah!:

[Broncoman13]

Know of any books that help correct lazy ass? :~ohyah!:

LOL

[baja]

Know of any books that help correct lazy ass? :~ohyah!:

http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Zig_Ziglar/ ;D

[Rascal]

You should look into NTSB investigation. They do all the big wrecks. FAA really only investigates crashes to find fault as in with the pilot. They spend more time going after the pilot rather than the cause. NTSB is the one who tries to find out why and then mandates the FAA find a solution.

I almost got hired at the FAA in Dallas about three months ago but they went with somebody who had more experience.

Frankly I never thought of looking at the NTSB. Wouldn't they want somebody who is a certified pilot though?

[baja]

I almost got hired at the FAA in Dallas about three months ago but they went with somebody who had more experience.

Frankly I never thought of looking at the NTSB. Wouldn't they want somebody who is a certified pilot though?

Do you have an lazy eye you got to have a lazy eye.

[Rascal]

Do you have an lazy eye you got to have a lazy eye.

I'd rather have a lazy eye then a lazy manhood. :)

[theAPAOps5]

I almost got hired at the FAA in Dallas about three months ago but they went with somebody who had more experience.

Frankly I never thought of looking at the NTSB. Wouldn't they want somebody who is a certified pilot though?

Generally the NTSB wants someone who at least has a commercial license and about 2500 hours. So that may be out but you never know.

As for the FAA there is a lot of opportunities in Air Traffic Control right now as there are a lot of retirements coming. Be leary though as there is a huge war right now between the Controllers union and the FAA. Basically they couldn't come to an agreement on a contract so the FAA sent it before congress and asked them to mediate it. Congress sent it back saying they didn't have the time to deal with this. At that point the previous contract stipulated that if Congress doesn't intervene and all other methods have been used the FAA's last best offer goes into service. So all the controllers that were making 90,000 just took a 20% pay cut and all new hires make about half of that now. The FAA is in a very precarious moment right now as they are trying to be funded by the airlines not the government. That in itself scares me as the big 4 airlines will have all control and things will change big time.

[Rascal]

Yeah I figured they would.

I'm an engineer so I doubt I'll sign up with the ATC.

I've noticed that the hirings at the FAA have vitually stopped recently.

[baja]

I'd rather have a lazy eye then a lazy manhood. :)

not a problem

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[theAPAOps5]

Yeah I figured they would.

I'm an engineer so I doubt I'll sign up with the ATC.

I've noticed that the hirings at the FAA have vitually stopped recently.

What kind of Engineer? If you are a civil engineer I have lots of contacts for you. We employ a design build firm to do all our rehab and upgrade projects. That is if you are looking.

[Rascal]

What kind of Engineer? If you are a civil engineer I have lots of contacts for you. We employ a design build firm to do all our rehab and upgrade projects. That is if you are looking.

I'm actually mechanical with aerospace systems experience, but I am looking.

[theAPAOps5]

I'm actually mechanical with aerospace systems experience, but I am looking.

I have a buddy who just got his PhD from UT in Aerospace Engineering. He works up in Boston now with an Aerospace firm. I can contact him if you want. I also have another friend whos dad is in with Lockheed Martin.

Another idea for you to look into is the new Very Light Jet market that is coming on board. There is this rush to get the jets certified. People like Honda, Piper, Adam Aircraft, Eclipse, and a few others are in the design and testing phase right now. We have Adam Aircraft and ATG Javelin based here so I can call over and see what is going on. I speak with the CEOs quite often so I can get a decent pulse.

[Dagmar]

A long, long time ago...
I can still remember
How that music used to make me smile.
And I knew if I had my chance
That I could make those people dance
And, maybe, they’d be happy for a while.

But february made me shiver
With every paper I’d deliver.
Bad news on the doorstep;
I couldn’t take one more step.

I can’t remember if I cried
When I read about his widowed bride,
But something touched me deep inside
The day the music died.

So bye-bye, miss american pie.
Drove my chevy to the levee,
But the levee was dry.
And them good old boys were drinkin’ whiskey and rye
Singin’, "this’ll be the day that I die.
"this’ll be the day that I die."

Did you write the book of love,
And do you have faith in God above,
If the Bible tells you so?
Do you believe in rock ’n roll,
Can music save your mortal soul,
And can you teach me how to dance real slow?

Well, I know that you’re in love with him
`cause I saw you dancin’ in the gym.
You both kicked off your shoes.
Man, I dig those rhythm and blues.

I was a lonely teenage broncin’ buck
With a pink carnation and a pickup truck,
But I knew I was out of luck
The day the music died.

I started singin’,
"bye-bye, miss american pie."
Drove my chevy to the levee,
But the levee was dry.
Them good old boys were drinkin’ whiskey and rye
And singin’, "this’ll be the day that I die.
"this’ll be the day that I die."

Now for ten years we’ve been on our own
And moss grows fat on a rollin’ stone,
But that’s not how it used to be.
When the jester sang for the king and queen,
In a coat he borrowed from james dean
And a voice that came from you and me,

Oh, and while the king was looking down,
The jester stole his thorny crown.
The courtroom was adjourned;
No verdict was returned.
And while lennon read a book of marx,
The quartet practiced in the park,
And we sang dirges in the dark
The day the music died.

We were singing,
"bye-bye, miss american pie."
Drove my chevy to the levee,
But the levee was dry.
Them good old boys were drinkin’ whiskey and rye
And singin’, "this’ll be the day that I die.
"this’ll be the day that I die."

Helter skelter in a summer swelter.
The birds flew off with a fallout shelter,
Eight miles high and falling fast.
It landed foul on the grass.
The players tried for a forward pass,
With the jester on the sidelines in a cast.

Now the half-time air was sweet perfume
While the sergeants played a marching tune.
We all got up to dance,
Oh, but we never got the chance!
`cause the players tried to take the field;
The marching band refused to yield.
Do you recall what was revealed
The day the music died?

We started singing,
"bye-bye, miss american pie."
Drove my chevy to the levee,
But the levee was dry.
Them good old boys were drinkin’ whiskey and rye
And singin’, "this’ll be the day that I die.
"this’ll be the day that I die."

Oh, and there we were all in one place,
A generation lost in space
With no time left to start again.
So come on: jack be nimble, jack be quick!
Jack flash sat on a candlestick
Cause fire is the devil’s only friend.

Oh, and as I watched him on the stage
My hands were clenched in fists of rage.
No angel born in hell
Could break that satan’s spell.
And as the flames climbed high into the night
To light the sacrificial rite,
I saw satan laughing with delight
The day the music died

He was singing,
"bye-bye, miss american pie."
Drove my chevy to the levee,
But the levee was dry.
Them good old boys were drinkin’ whiskey and rye
And singin’, "this’ll be the day that I die.
"this’ll be the day that I die."

I met a girl who sang the blues
And I asked her for some happy news,
But she just smiled and turned away.
I went down to the sacred store
Where I’d heard the music years before,
But the man there said the music wouldn’t play.

And in the streets: the children screamed,
The lovers cried, and the poets dreamed.
But not a word was spoken;
The church bells all were broken.
And the three men I admire most:
The father, son, and the holy ghost,
They caught the last train for the coast
The day the music died.

And they were singing,
"bye-bye, miss american pie."
Drove my chevy to the levee,
But the levee was dry.
And them good old boys were drinkin’ whiskey and rye
Singin’, "this’ll be the day that I die.
"this’ll be the day that I die."

They were singing,
"bye-bye, miss american pie."
Drove my chevy to the levee,
But the levee was dry.
Them good old boys were drinkin’ whiskey and rye
Singin’, "this’ll be the day that I die."

[Atlas]

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Ar eyou allowed to post that?

I remember Mock get a forced vacation for posting the wizzonator or some dumb sh!t.

[theAPAOps5]

Ar eyou allowed to post that?

I remember Mock get a forced vacation for posting the wizzonator or some dumb sh!t.

While I am new it seems to me like Mock posting something like a whizzonator is the least of what he is capable of. But I didn't see what he posted.

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Ar eyou allowed to post that?

I remember Mock get a forced vacation for posting the wizzonator or some dumb sh!t.

What a guy with a ballon on his nose???

[Crushaholic]

LOL Feel better after posting that, Dagmar?LOL