Should we replace Tatum?

[phisig150]

Should we stick with him next year or go after another back in the draft or free angency? I think he's proved himself and I would rather address other holes, (DE DE DE DE, Any DE with a pulse will do, S) still a little worried about his durability though.

[Conklin]

Threads:
Should we start another one or just add to one of the MANY threads that have this same comment...


Imma make a thread on my Thoughts on the game next!

[Guessed]

The bottom line is for the long haul this team needs a bell cow back. Tatum has taken some steps in that direction this year but the durability question mark hovers over his head. It would be huge for the team if he could seize that role once and for all and allow the team to focus on addressing more glaring needs like D line, safety and O line.

[phisig150]

Yet a lot of people seem to be drooling over Peterson which to me has those same issues.

[theAPAOps5]

Denver always goes after a RB in the quest for the TD replacement. So I bet it happens again. Tatum looks good these last two games back. Now he needs to translate that to a 16 game season. Until then he will always be questioned.

[phisig150]

He is averaging almost 90 yards a game though.

[theAPAOps5]

Yet a lot of people seem to be drooling over Peterson which to me has those same issues.

NO I am so against Peterson. He has amazing talent and skills but he just gets hurt too much.

[theAPAOps5]

Yet a lot of people seem to be drooling over Peterson which to me has those same issues.

Now imagine what it would be if he played every game. He would be wicked good in stats. If he can stay healthy he can be a force.

[Guessed]

Yet a lot of people seem to be drooling over Peterson which to me has those same issues.

The thing with Peterson is that he's a once ever 5 to 10 year type talent at the position when healthy. I've watched clips of all the top backs this year and he blows the competition away at the position. I've been impressed by Lynch but Peterson is amazing.

[phisig150]

Bush also is coming off an injury. I kind of like Lynch. Anyone know what free agent backs that will be available next year that would be an upgrade over Bell?

[atomicbloke]

The thing with Peterson is that he's a once ever 5 to 10 year type talent at the position when healthy. I've watched clips of all the top backs this year and he blows the competition away at the position. I've been impressed by Lynch but Peterson is amazing.

But staying healthy is an essential need for an NFL RB. Tatum, Peterson etc don't score high in this regard.

[Guessed]

Bush also is coming off an injury. I kind of like Lynch. Anyone know what free agent backs that will be available next year that would be an upgrade over Bell?

Michael Turner, the backup to LT at San Diego would be a nice tandem with Tatum. Turner could get the bulk of the carries and Tatum could spell him. Anyone know why Turner didn't play tonight or did he? Also, does anyone know the deal with how/when teams are comped for free agents.
-Who determines these picks and when are they awarded....for example, if the Broncos sign Turner, would they be obligated to give up a pick and if so, when.
-Will the Chargers get compensation for Brees going to New Orleans?
-Will the Broncos get any comp for Pryce going to Baltimore?

[phisig150]

Turner could be a good pickup but then it's kind of like Lamont Jordon who backed up Martin for a couple of years. Solid year last year sucked this year before the injury. But then again every part of Chokelands team blew this year.

[TheChamp24]

I think don't draft any RB or sign a FA, unless Turner is cheap.
Tatum has shown that he could be a good back in the league, with Mike coming in to spill him.
Focus on DE, DT, S, OL, ST

[theAPAOps5]

Michael Turner, the backup to LT at San Diego would be a nice tandem with Tatum. Turner could get the bulk of the carries and Tatum could spell him. Anyone know why Turner didn't play tonight or did he? Also, does anyone know the deal with how/when teams are comped for free agents.
-Who determines these picks and when are they awarded....for example, if the Broncos sign Turner, would they be obligated to give up a pick and if so, when.
-Will the Chargers get compensation for Brees going to New Orleans?
-Will the Broncos get any comp for Pryce going to Baltimore?

Brees was an unrestricted Free Agent. San Diego gets no compensation for him leaving.

Turner is a restricted free agent I believe. That means the Chargers get to match any offer. I also think they might get a draft pick but I am not sure.

[WestFan]

Brees was an unrestricted Free Agent. San Diego gets no compensation for him leaving.

Turner is a restricted free agent I believe. That means the Chargers get to match any offer. I also think they might get a draft pick but I am not sure.

You are incorrect.

The Chargers will get a compensatory 3rd round pick for Drew Brees. Comp picks are awarded to teams that lose more UFAs than they sign. For those that do, the quality of the free agents lost (in terms of performance and contract) determines the type of comp pick. Since Drew Brees is lighting it up in New Orleans and is the NFL's leading passer, the Chargers will likely get a 3rd round comp pick, which is the highest a team can receive.

The Chargers will also probably proffer a one-year RFA tender to Michael Turner such that they are compensated a first round draft pick from any team that signs him away should the Chargers not choose to match any offers.

[theAPAOps5]

You are incorrect.

The Chargers will get a compensatory 3rd round pick for Drew Brees. Comp picks are awarded to teams that lose more UFAs than they sign. For those that do, the quality of the free agents lost (in terms of performance and contract) determines the type of comp pick. Since Drew Brees is lighting it up in New Orleans and is the NFL's leading passer, the Chargers will likely get a 3rd round comp pick, which is the highest a team can receive.

The Chargers will also probably proffer a one-year RFA tender to Michael Turner such that they are compensated a first round draft pick from any team that signs him away should the Chargers not choose to match any offers.

See I knew I butchered that. There are so many rules in FA and Salary Cap that I can't even begin to understand it.

[WestFan]

See I knew I butchered that. There are so many rules in FA and Salary Cap that I can't even begin to understand it.

No problem. It took me a while to figure out a lot of the comp picks and ERFA/RFA tender offers and compensation language in the CBA.

Even then, I'm still mostly clueless as to how the NFL exactly determines who deserves comp picks, how many they get, and what they will be. It's a secret formula guarded like nuclear secrets.

[BroncoBuff]

Tatum is fine ... though I'd like to see Cecil or Nash or Cobbs get more carries. I just don't think we need a new running back.

What we need are a KENOY KENNEDY and a TREVOR PRYCE, without all their baggage. A big-hitter strong safety and a 10-sack defensive end. Throw in a kick returner and that's it. We're set on offense - every spot, we just need all these new guys to get comfortable and into sync.

[fontaine]

I don't think Tatum needs to be replaced.

He's shown that he is a tough interior runner and still has the pop to take it outside and I liked his hustle in pass protection out there for the most part.

His durability has been a problem though, and for that reason I would like to bring in a veteran like Chris Brown who's gone from Ten, or try and get a good RB in the 2nd day.

[watermock]

We need a legitimate second back, that one was Sapp but he's on IR now. Tater outrushed LT yesterday. Next.

We didn't stop them on 3rd down...if you want a cure...get a Roidinator.

[watermock]

See I knew I butchered that. There are so many rules in FA and Salary Cap that I can't even begin to understand it.

You might as well be valdavictorian at MIT to completely understand the cap...it doesn't help that the NFLPA refuses to give actual compensation on it's site, just salary. Players are given huge signing bonuses, but that site wouldn't mention them even if held over a spit.

[Barry Ramey]

I have been thinking Tatum needed to be dealt, but he is showing more lately since coming back from injury. I think they can live with him and Mike Bell at RB while they fix or at least attempt to fix the holes on defense.

[OrangeShadow]

if our offensive line was healthy all year i think you would of seen even more from tatum. the guys running harder than before and with him and mike bell(having another year under his belt) i think the run game will be fine

[Atlas]

Michael Turner, the backup to LT at San Diego would be a nice tandem with Tatum. Turner could get the bulk of the carries and Tatum could spell him. Anyone know why Turner didn't play tonight or did he? Also, does anyone know the deal with how/when teams are comped for free agents.
-Who determines these picks and when are they awarded....for example, if the Broncos sign Turner, would they be obligated to give up a pick and if so, when.
-Will the Chargers get compensation for Brees going to New Orleans?
-Will the Broncos get any comp for Pryce going to Baltimore?


I think Cobbs. and the two bells are good. I would also like to add Turner and then us ethe draft to concentrate on the DL.

[BroncoInferno]

I like Tatum, but I'd rather have a bruiser who can push the pile a couple of yards when the hole isn't there. I think we should draft a back of this ilk somewhere on the first day. Remember, Tatum's contract will expire after next season, so at the very least it'd be nice to have his replacement already on the squad with a year under his belt.

Anybody have any idea where Michael Bush is projected to go in the draft given his injury status? I'd love to land that guy.

[cmhargrove]

1. The running game will benefit immensely from Cutler's "wide open" style. It should make other teams have to prepare for the deep game more often, leaving fewer on the line to stuff us. All our backs should look better next year.

2. I go back and forth on Tatum, but he has done what it took to help us win this year, can't blame him.

3. If we pick up another back next year, it should be a second tier guy like a Maurice Jones-Drew who drops a little in the draft. I would like to see someone who is about 230 and hits the hole with some speed, rather than one who drops when his feet get swatted. I would like to see that our RB can break tackles with the same effort as the QB.

[youcandoit1687]

cmon people, the grass isnt greener over there. tatum missed 3 games this year, big deal. shanny even said he was resting him for a few of those. tatum is a very good RB in this league(about 10th in ypg). we have backups for a reason. mike has played well, so has nash.

RB is not somethingwe need to address. it will be retarded if we waste a pick on a RB when it is probably about our 4th priority at the highest. we need DT, DE, S, and maybe an OT or another S before a goddam RB.

[Atlas]

cmon people, the grass isnt greener over there. tatum missed 3 games this year, big deal. shanny even said he was resting him for a few of those. tatum is a very good RB in this league(about 10th in ypg). we have backups for a reason. mike has played well, so has nash.

RB is not somethingwe need to address. it will be retarded if we waste a pick on a RB when it is probably about our 4th priority at the highest. we need DT, DE, S, and maybe an OT or another S before a goddam RB.

Why did Shanny feel it necessary to rest Tatum?? Might it be because he isn't an every down back and Shanny was trying to rest him up for the stretch drive... Yeah that would be my guess.

I don't think Tatum has proved anything we didn't already know about him.