View Full Version : The twos backs Shanahan wanted in the draft
Kaylore
12-10-2006, 04:19 PM
Laurence Maroney and Maurice Jones-Drew.
I think that Shanahan and his staff are just really good at identifying good running back talent. If that ability is part of the "system," then so be it.
maybe he'll pull the trigger next spring
ozomulsion
12-10-2006, 07:13 PM
Laurence Maroney and Maurice Jones-Drew.
I think that Shanahan and his staff are just really good at identifying good running back talent. If that ability is part of the "system," then so be it.
I disagree. We could have drafted Jarious Norwood with a 4th round pick. Compare his stats to Jones-Drew. Oh yeah, Tatum Sucks.
Kaylore
12-10-2006, 08:02 PM
I disagree. We could have drafted Jarious Norwood with a 4th round pick. Compare his stats to Jones-Drew. Oh yeah, Tatum Sucks.
What do you disagree with? Just because there were other good backs that were drafted doesn't mean that Shanahan isn't good at evaluating them. The ones he wanted are clearly good enough to play and be weapons at the pro level.
And Tatum doesn't suck. He played very well today. He just isn't great in pass-protection.
BlaK-Argentina
12-10-2006, 08:09 PM
Oh yeah, Tatum Sucks.
Man... change your avatar then!
Tatum has been one of the best players on the field for us in each game he's started.
bloodsunday
12-10-2006, 08:11 PM
great job getting neither of them.
ozomulsion
12-10-2006, 10:29 PM
What do you disagree with? Just because there were other good backs that were drafted doesn't mean that Shanahan isn't good at evaluating them. The ones he wanted are clearly good enough to play and be weapons at the pro level.
And Tatum doesn't suck. He played very well today. He just isn't great in pass-protection.
On the first part. I just can't believe they missed on such an obvious talent like Jarious Noorwood. Maroney was a first round pick, doesn't take a genius to figure out he was quite a talent.
On the second part. I was obviously being a smartass. San Diego hadn't allowed a 100 yard rusher at home in twenty games, until today.
epicSocialism4tw
12-10-2006, 10:36 PM
great job getting neither of them.
And instead, he refused to supplement a near-superbowl roster with the talent it needed to get over the hump.
This season is looking more and more like a grade F disaster.
I will happily slurp up some crow if we end up making the playoffs and winning a game or two there, but as of today things are looking grim.
BigBoltIke
12-10-2006, 10:48 PM
Neither Maroney nor Jones-Drew would've taken DEN to the playoffs. You guys needed to trade up to 11 and pick Haloti Ngata. That would've given you the kind of talent necesary to make a legit playoff run. There are going to be better QBs in the next few years than Cutler.
Personally I think Shanahan not only reached, but that he picked the wrong guy.
cmhargrove
12-10-2006, 10:49 PM
Sorry, you don't win the Superbowl every year. But, I think that Cutler, Walker, Scheffler, Marshall, Dumerville, and Kircus could be very important players for us in the future. I don't think we did poorly in the draft (and free agency), you just can't get everything to fix a team in one year.
In my book, the biggest dissapointment has been the play of Warren. For a big interior lineman making big bucks, I rarely see him break into a play. Where is the pressure, where are the sacks? We need a big disruptive mofo in the middle. The ends will look better if we have big pressure in the middle (ala Jacksonville).
Let's hope Jay gets a shot at some rookie experience in the playoffs, but i think next year could be a great one for us.
Finger Roll
12-10-2006, 11:11 PM
reach my ass. many draft experts had him going in the top top. The guy has alot of talent more then either Young or Leinart he just needs experience. The guy one SEC player of the Year While at Vanderbilt for crying out loud. How many Qb's if any could of pulled that off?
loborugger
12-10-2006, 11:14 PM
Laurence Maroney and Maurice Jones-Drew.
I think that Shanahan and his staff are just really good at identifying good running back talent. If that ability is part of the "system," then so be it.
I am kinda hoping that we get a RB this year in the draft. I think a real stud in the corral would make a world of difference. I dont follow college ball. Any ideas/nominations?
CanuckBroncofan
12-10-2006, 11:15 PM
Neither Maroney nor Jones-Drew would've taken DEN to the playoffs. You guys needed to trade up to 11 and pick Haloti Ngata. That would've given you the kind of talent necesary to make a legit playoff run. There are going to be better QBs in the next few years than Cutler.
Personally I think Shanahan not only reached, but that he picked the wrong guy.
Wow....kinda like a Ryan Leaf reach? Man it wasn't that long ago that San DEE Eggo was giving away tix to hookers and bums to fill the stadium. I think Shanny should try and move up and take Adrian Peterson from OU..this kid is a stud.
Mile High Shack
12-10-2006, 11:15 PM
we maybe could've got drew-jones
but we couldn't of got mauroney if we got Cutler
:)
problem solved
CanuckBroncofan
12-10-2006, 11:18 PM
I am kinda hoping that we get a RB this year in the draft. I think a real stud in the corral would make a world of difference. I dont follow college ball. Any ideas/nominations?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rJ1xDBT1jM
BroncoMatt
12-10-2006, 11:19 PM
Not so sure Cutler has more talent than VY or Leinart. Vy has single handedly taken a pathetic team on his back and has a nice win streak going. Leinart has had some big days as well. But this thread isn't about that.
epicSocialism4tw
12-10-2006, 11:23 PM
Not so sure Cutler has more talent than VY or Leinart. Vy has single handedly taken a pathetic team on his back and has a nice win streak going. Leinart has had some big days as well. But this thread isn't about that.
Young is big time.
Houston found that out the hard way today.
loborugger
12-10-2006, 11:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rJ1xDBT1jM
I am gonna assume that a Heisman candidate will be gone by the time we come up in the draft. Unless of course, the Skins finish with a top 5 pick and we can fleece them again.
CanuckBroncofan
12-10-2006, 11:29 PM
I am gonna assume that a Heisman candidate will be gone by the time we come up in the draft. Unless of course, the Skins finish with a top 5 pick and we can fleece them again.
I think Adrian will be in the 10-15 range. We'd have to move up to get him but I am telling you from watching this kid he's like TD with more wheels. He'd be perfect in Denver.
epicSocialism4tw
12-10-2006, 11:42 PM
I think Adrian will be in the 10-15 range. We'd have to move up to get him but I am telling you from watching this kid he's like TD with more wheels. He'd be perfect in Denver.
Peterson will go in the top 10, more likely the top 5, and possibly in the top 3.
Injury history will knock him out of the top 5 probably to the 6-10 range....top three is already obvious with thomas, quinn and johnson
BroncoBuff
12-11-2006, 04:33 AM
Man... change your avatar then!
Tatum has been one of the best players on the field for us in each game he's started.
I agree about Tatum ... I'm not satisfied he's an every-down back, but you're right. In the games he's started, he has been a stud.
OrangeShadow
12-11-2006, 09:07 AM
Neither Maroney nor Jones-Drew would've taken DEN to the playoffs. You guys needed to trade up to 11 and pick Haloti Ngata. That would've given you the kind of talent necesary to make a legit playoff run. There are going to be better QBs in the next few years than Cutler.
Personally I think Shanahan not only reached, but that he picked the wrong guy.
You're just flat out wrong. For one ngata is suited for a 3-4 which we have to much money and talent invested in our current scheme to switch.
In one draft we loaded our offense with talent for years to come. Scheffler showed why they picked him, cutler improves with every quarter. Walker and marshall are the future at WR and kuper will be a force on this offensive line for years and possibly eslinger.
RhymesayersDU
12-11-2006, 09:09 AM
Jones-Drew carried my Fantasy team to a huge win.
SoonerBronco
12-11-2006, 10:51 AM
I think Adrian will be in the 10-15 range. We'd have to move up to get him but I am telling you from watching this kid he's like TD with more wheels. He'd be perfect in Denver.
What's up Cannuck? I remember you from the Freak board...
Adrian Peterson is a Herschell Walker, Erik Dickerson type back...once ever 10 years or so. Whoever gets him will have a 1500 back consistently...if he ends up in Denver...look out.
missingnumber7
12-11-2006, 11:25 AM
Tatum has never been the greatest pass blocker in denver, and last year the pressure really wasn't on him to do that. I think that Mike Bell does an great job pass blocking for the first year in the system.
As far as back that would've put us in a better place. I don't think you can if or but anyone. But just think if we had reggie bush...wouldn't that be sweet. The guys got skills.
ozomulsion
12-11-2006, 11:13 PM
Tatum has never been the greatest pass blocker in denver, and last year the pressure really wasn't on him to do that. I think that Mike Bell does an great job pass blocking for the first year in the system.
As far as back that would've put us in a better place. I don't think you can if or but anyone. But just think if we had reggie bush...wouldn't that be sweet. The guys got skills.
Tatum's pass blocking is just fine now days. Reggie Bush has skills? You don't say...:spit:
Rascal
12-11-2006, 11:27 PM
Laurence Maroney and Maurice Jones-Drew.
I think that Shanahan and his staff are just really good at identifying good running back talent. If that ability is part of the "system," then so be it.
We might draft another this year, but hopefully we address the d-line first.
SoonerBronco
12-11-2006, 11:35 PM
Injury history will knock him out of the top 5 probably to the 6-10 range....top three is already obvious with thomas, quinn and johnson
he will be top 5...bank on it!
bmanhas
12-14-2006, 08:06 AM
I don't know how you got that Jones was 2nd on Shanny's board. Everythign I read was Maroney was #1 and Norwood was #2. Norwood would have been drafted by Denver in the 5th or 6th had Atlanta not picked him up first.
fontaine
12-14-2006, 08:42 AM
Denver can't afford to wait till the 5th/4th round to pick up someone they like such as Norwood, Dominick Davis etc.
There are going to be at least three other teams competing for Denver since they'll run similar zone blocking schemes in Green Bay, Atlanta, Houston. If Shanahan is high on someone the go ahead and draft them instead of waiting and missing out on the next Dominick Davis etc.
-Slap-
12-14-2006, 08:51 AM
Kenneth Darby from Alabama in round three.
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7884/wedsports1hn7.jpg
bloodsunday
12-14-2006, 04:44 PM
Make a deal for Marion Barber.
El Minion
12-14-2006, 05:05 PM
Laurence Maroney and Maurice Jones-Drew.
I think that Shanahan and his staff are just really good at identifying good running back talent. If that ability is part of the "system," then so be it.
SI Scorecard (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/scorecard/12/14/truth.rumors.nfl/1.html)
There are doomsday scenarios for Kevin Jones injury: He might miss next season. He might never be the same. The Lions might have to acquire another starting running back after trading up into the first round to draft Jones 30th overall in 2004.
-- Detroit Free Press
Package Plummer & T.Bell to Millen to try to move up in the draf, get Adrien Peterson or Gaines Adams? Detroit needs help everywhere. Likely won't happen but Millen has been one of the least astute GM's in recent memory.
400HZ
12-14-2006, 05:15 PM
SI Scorecard (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/scorecard/12/14/truth.rumors.nfl/1.html)
There are doomsday scenarios for Kevin Jones injury: He might miss next season. He might never be the same. The Lions might have to acquire another starting running back after trading up into the first round to draft Jones 30th overall in 2004.
-- Detroit Free Press
Package Plummer & T.Bell to Millen to try to move up in the draf, get Adrien Peterson or Gaines Adams? Detroit needs help everywhere. Likely won't happen but Millen has been one of the least astute GM's in recent memory.
I would be shocked if Millen is still around come April.
Denver's 2006 draft looked pretty good to me, especially considering their low position. I was freakin pissed when Walker went over for only a 2nd. He's definetely been a game changer a couple times this year. Green Bay dealing him for only a 2nd rounder was a travesty.
El Minion
12-14-2006, 06:04 PM
I would be shocked if Millen is still around come April.
Denver's 2006 draft looked pretty good to me, especially considering their low position. I was freakin pissed when Walker went over for only a 2nd. He's definetely been a game changer a couple times this year. Green Bay dealing him for only a 2nd rounder was a travesty.
It's more shocking that he hasn't been fired by now, which proves the Ford family is loyal to a fault. If he is fired then I think Marinelli is in for a lame duck year as coach as the New GM would probably want his own choice there but would hold off on firing Marinelli and eating his salary. Thus I see Millen being given till 2007 to turn it around then the Ford family can blow everything up again and start fresh for the nth time.
I was actually worried that Shanahan paid to much for Walker by not insuring the trade with a conditional draft order if Walker never fully healed from his knee injury. But in the end, Shanahan knew what he was doing and I'm ;D for it.
What a travesty will be is after drafting Quentin Griffin (5-7) and missing out on Maurice Jones-Drew (5-8) as thread started as, Shanahan will draft Garrett Wolfe, all 5-7, 170lbs of him in the late rounds instead of using his Jedi mindtricks on Millen to move up in the draft as he has on Snyder in Washington ROFL!
Barry Ramey
12-14-2006, 09:17 PM
If they could get him for a decent price, I'd rather the Broncos sign Chris Brown than draft a RB in this draft, which will be very weak at the RB position. The 2008 draft figures to be loaded at RB.
elsid13
12-14-2006, 09:25 PM
If they could get him for a decent price, I'd rather the Broncos sign Chris Brown than draft a RB in this draft, which will be very weak at the RB position. The 2008 draft figures to be loaded at RB.
Why sign a guy that hasn't done anything and seem to always hurt???
Barry Ramey
12-14-2006, 10:19 PM
Why sign a guy that hasn't done anything and seem to always hurt???
Brown is still young and it was rumored the Broncos had interest in him this summer. Just tossing out another possibility. If drafting a RB, I'd wait until the 5th round to get a Jon Cornish or Kolby Smith. Darby, Irons, among others I don't see as being any better than Mike Bell, so I don't see the sense in drafting a RB in the 3rd round or higher in that case. If could get a Peterson or Lynch, ok, but I don't see that happening.
ozomulsion
12-14-2006, 10:28 PM
I don't know how you got that Jones was 2nd on Shanny's board. Everythign I read was Maroney was #1 and Norwood was #2. Norwood would have been drafted by Denver in the 5th or 6th had Atlanta not picked him up first.
5th or 6th round to draft Norwood? Foolishness. You go out and get a back with skills like that. Sometimes Shanny thinks way to much for his own good.
Ray Finkle
12-14-2006, 11:05 PM
I want Stevie Hicks....he could be had in the 3rd or 4th....he is the bulldozer they need.
mattbeymvp
12-15-2006, 03:59 AM
I think Adrian will be in the 10-15 range. We'd have to move up to get him but I am telling you from watching this kid he's like TD with more wheels. He'd be perfect in Denver.
He'd be perfect for a couple of years, then injuries will creep up on him.
The kid runs way too upright and doesn't even attempt to protect himself. He's going to be a story that fans tell their kids about what could have been, had he not had the injury issues.
He's an incredible talent, but he's not going to last.