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Stormontheplains
12-08-2006, 11:10 AM
Just a few points about what our gameplan should have per me.
1.) The drag pattern-- Shanny has completely went away from this route with the receivers. It is most effective against a 3-4, it's quick if there is pressure and also causes congestion with dline and backers with zone blitz
2.) Screens-- They want to blitz, make them pay with screen passes, something we have never done well. They will bring roid boy hard off the edge run the screens to his side, he will take himself out of the play
3.) Javon--Play him out of the slot, and put marshell on the outside. They will have to bring a safety up, leaving marshall one on one for a deep ball. Javon should be able to get open long over the middle.
4.) Shovel Pass-- Let's shovel pass to sheff, get him some yards and confidence.
5.) Fullback-- Johnson should get 5-10 carries, easy to combo the nose guard, and slide to one linebacker, should be able to atleast get 4 yards per carry.
All of these suggestions come at low risk for cutler and keep him in 3 to 5 step drop to handle the pressure.
Rock Chalk
12-08-2006, 11:12 AM
Throw in a prayer for good measure.
Arkansas Bronco
12-08-2006, 11:18 AM
I alway think we can pull it off but this is our hardest game all year. It goes way beyond who is at QB because we would still be in trouble even if we had Manning or Brady under center.
Hotrod
12-08-2006, 11:21 AM
I pray and will cheer my ass off for a win but dont expect one.
The only thing that will ****ing piss me off is if we dont find ways to get Walker the ball. His big plays are our only chance. I dont care how. Deep balls/reverses/wr screens anything. He needs to touch the ball early and often.
BigBad
12-08-2006, 11:22 AM
4.) Shovel Pass-- Let's shovel pass to sheff, get him some yards and confidence.
No one EVER shovel passes against us. Jamal stuffs the middle to consistantly. The few teams that have tried it (Pitt, Cincy) lost yards.
broncsyanks
12-08-2006, 11:23 AM
shotgun formations. that will help pick up all blitza so that cutler can check better. also that is what he used in college. run tater and mike bell and then let jay light it. personally i expect to see a lot better play out of jay this week with warmer wheather
Stormontheplains
12-08-2006, 11:26 AM
No one EVER shovel passes against us. Jamal stuffs the middle to consistantly. The few teams that have tried it (Pitt, Cincy) lost yards.
Jamal got his ass handed to him by tommy nalen, so go back to roidville and and have a taco from one of your many illegals.
broncsyanks
12-08-2006, 11:28 AM
also forgot to mention-- ebenezer ekuban WILL NOT COVER LT in coverage this week. i hope to see those all out blitzs again this week they are great to watch
BigBad
12-08-2006, 11:31 AM
Jamal got his ass handed to him by tommy nalen, so go back to roidville and and have a taco from one of your many illegals.
Guys like you are going to make watching Cutler get DESTROYED this weekend even better.
kamakazi_kal
12-08-2006, 11:33 AM
dont forget the long pass............the chargers can be beaten deep
lets see that arm......what have we got to lose
Hotrod
12-08-2006, 11:36 AM
Guys like you are going to make watching Cutler get DESTROYED this weekend even better.
While I think were in trouble here I also think you will be surprised with Jays improvement from last week to this week. Also he was an option QB early in his college days so I highly doubt he will be sacked over and over. He will make some plays......just not enough I fear :nono:
RMANCIL
12-08-2006, 11:47 AM
dont forget the long pass............the chargers can be beaten deep
lets see that arm......what have we got to lose
Pretty hard to throw deep when all you will see is a three step drop from Cutler. The Chargers hope to see Cutler take a few 5 step drops because that means the pass rush can get him.
The Donkeys will try and run the ball after spreading the field and leaving just one back in. That allows the OL to do what they do best which is cut block and it moves the safeties outside the box.
socalorado
12-08-2006, 11:57 AM
If Cutler plays half as well as BVP did last year we will be fine. I think you guys are making too much of this game, relax. We have ggod fortune recently in SD, broke Brees chickenwing last year and almost did the same to rivers
400HZ
12-08-2006, 11:59 AM
If Cutler plays half as well as BVP did last year we will be fine. I think you guys are making too much of this game, relax. We have ggod fortune recently in SD, broke Brees chickenwing last year and almost did the same to rivers
Ya, you guys got nothing to worry about.
fontaine
12-08-2006, 11:59 AM
Merriman is back so is Bell for us.
It's tough to tell what's going to happen. Although we did play very well against the Chargers being up 24-7 at one point.
I think we match up pretty well defensively against them since their WRs don't impress me considering McCardell might not play. LT/Gates are their biggest weapons ofcourse and it's going to be interesting to see how we counter Gates. Let's say Champ covers him and the rest of the front 7 focuses on LT.
Offensively, I have no idea how this team will do although I expect us to run the ball well but it's tough to say how Cutler will do. My gut instintic is that he'll be inconsistent. At times he'll look pretty good but in others I really expect him to struggle badly against the kind of pressure SD can generate with Philips/Merriman but you could say that about every QB those two have faced this season.
BigBad
12-08-2006, 12:06 PM
Seriously Cutler is going to get killed. You guys GASHED Seattle last week in the running game and Cutler couldnt do ANYTHING with that. You wont get that good of a running game going this week and Cutler will be pressured to make plays. That spells doom because it is obvious it is too early for him to do that.
Hotrod
12-08-2006, 12:06 PM
Pretty hard to throw deep when all you will see is a three step drop from Cutler. The Chargers hope to see Cutler take a few 5 step drops because that means the pass rush can get him.
The Donkeys will try and run the ball after spreading the field and leaving just one back in. That allows the OL to do what they do best which is cut block and it moves the safeties outside the box.
I hope to see the shotgun used in obvious and at times not so obvious passing downs. I do think the chuggers can be beaten thru the air the key is slowing the pass rush enough to give Jay the chance.
Dedhed
12-08-2006, 12:08 PM
I want to see Jay in the shotgun more. I think that will give him more opportunity to see the field and make the plays we know he's capable of.
Dedhed
12-08-2006, 12:09 PM
Seriously Cutler is going to get killed. You guys GASHED Seattle last week in the running game and Cutler couldnt do ANYTHING with that. You wont get that good of a running game going this week and Cutler will be pressured to make plays. That spells doom because it is obvious it is too early for him to do that.
Just keep telling yourself that.
Hotrod
12-08-2006, 12:11 PM
Just keep telling yourself that.
For an idiot hes got it half correct. The running game will struggle ALOT against the chuggers. Jay will have to make some plays early inorder to soften the run D.
Where he is wrong is being so sure that Jay to Walker cant get it done.
Another possible option it their backers play shallow to stuff the run would be to get Scheff in the seems deep. That would go along way to opening up some things for tatertot.
socalorado
12-08-2006, 12:12 PM
EASY TIGER.. EASY... i guess we could talk all day and night about how this guys going to do this and that guys going to do that, but what i do know is that YOUR quarterbacks have been the ones getting "killed" recently when we play in "fairyweather" land.
Stormontheplains
12-08-2006, 12:13 PM
What i really want to see is this. 3-4 defense by the broncos.
Dline-- Warren, Veal, and Myers
Linebackers-- Wilson, Webster MLB, Gold and Williams outside
cb's--Champ and Williams
Safety-- Lynch and Foxworth.
blitz webster since he is the weakest cover backer, and sub elvis for veal on passing situations on DJ's side.
fontaine
12-08-2006, 12:14 PM
Hopefully Meadows plays because I don't trust Foster to keep Cutler upright.
Hotrod
12-08-2006, 12:16 PM
What i really want to see is this. 3-4 defense by the broncos.
Dline-- Warren, Veal, and Myers
Linebackers-- Wilson, Webster MLB, Gold and Williams outside
cb's--Champ and Williams
Safety-- Lynch and Foxworth.
blitz webster since he is the weakest cover backer, and sub elvis for veal on passing situations on DJ's side.
Hmm making a change like that this week......I could see LT geting about 50 gazillion yards.
Im not against the change......maybe.....but certainly not now.
Stormontheplains
12-08-2006, 12:20 PM
Hotrod, your missing the key to my post, that could be our 2cd half adjustment. if we lose it cant be coyers inablility to adjust
azbroncfan
12-08-2006, 12:22 PM
What i really want to see is this. 3-4 defense by the broncos.
Dline-- Warren, Veal, and Myers
Linebackers-- Wilson, Webster MLB, Gold and Williams outside
cb's--Champ and Williams
Safety-- Lynch and Foxworth.
blitz webster since he is the weakest cover backer, and sub elvis for veal on passing situations on DJ's side.
Gold on outside in a 3-4? Yuk
RMANCIL
12-08-2006, 12:23 PM
I hope to see the shotgun used in obvious and at times not so obvious passing downs. I do think the chuggers can be beaten thru the air the key is slowing the pass rush enough to give Jay the chance.
The Bolt CB play off the wr which allows the under routes but the Bolt CB started to change up a little and jump those routes last week on Loseman.
Now if Cutler telegraphs his throws....... I don't think you will see much if any success throwing deep vs the Bolts.
Stormontheplains
12-08-2006, 12:24 PM
Gold on outside in a 3-4? Yuk
You would rather have him on the inside taking on blocks? i think not!
azbroncfan
12-08-2006, 12:27 PM
You would rather have him on the inside taking on blocks? i think not!
You must not watch much football, The OLB's are basically DE's who need to be able to stand blocks up and not let teams get the edges. The OLB is bigger than ILB's.
Hotrod
12-08-2006, 12:29 PM
The Bolt CB play off the wr which allows the under routes but the Bolt CB started to change up a little and jump those routes last week on Loseman.
Now if Cutler telegraphs his throws....... I don't think you will see much if any success throwing deep vs the Bolts.
Its still what Denver must find away to do this weekend IMO. The Chuggers would be stupid to do anything but sell out to stop the run. The only chance we have is to get the chuggers to soften up then get the running game going. We will NOT have any sucess coming out running the ball your to strong in that department.
oubronco
12-08-2006, 12:30 PM
they're biggest problem on the edges is when they string a play out they over persue the play the running back just cuts back and runs for big gains because there is no containment
Hotrod
12-08-2006, 12:37 PM
they're biggest problem on the edges is when they string a play out they over persue the play the running back just cuts back and runs for big gains because there is no containment
I dont think with Denvers speed I would be running outside to make a living myself. I'd run straight ahead and wear down a team that seems to have 4th qtr problems. We have to slow LT and contain Gates. Tall order obviously nobody stops LT just slow him down.
oubronco
12-08-2006, 12:40 PM
i think they just need to take LT out of the game and take there chances against the rest, put a spy on him everywhere he goes and take it to them hot and heavy and play the safeties back and not let them get the big plays
SportinOne
12-08-2006, 12:44 PM
as long as we don't keep overpersuing we will be able to stop LT like we always do. Sure he'll get his touchdowns in the redzone once they get there. But Rivers really doesn't scare me all that much. He's accurate and has an above average arm and he does seem to have that intensity that guys like Peyton have, but right now he's a first year starter with mediocre receivers. Say what you want about floyd and jackson, they are nothing special. Every team has receivers they swear are "on the verge" but they'll never make it there. We had that game in Denver. There is no excuse for how our defense broke down. The offense didn't help things, though. This will be a fun game to watch and we have a pretty good shot at winning.
the one thing i really don't want to see is the bootleg. The Chargers have shown they are ready for it, let's just not go there, alright? Memo to Mike: It is possible to play action without bootlegging. Look for a lot of passes to the TE's and at least one end around or something tricky set up by the end around. Then another end around which turns out to be a fake and a long pass to either Walker or Marshall. Please, no more fly routes for Rod. He has his place, and it is not running straight down the field.
RMANCIL
12-08-2006, 12:44 PM
Its still what Denver must find away to do this weekend IMO. The Chuggers would be stupid to do anything but sell out to stop the run. The only chance we have is to get the chuggers to soften up then get the running game going. We will NOT have any sucess coming out running the ball your to strong in that department.
The Donks had real good success running the ball in the 1st half. The Chargers brought the safeties down and helped out a lot more in run support and our back up LB maintained their gaps which stopped all the cut back runs and made a couple of plays on the screens and that was the end of the Donk offense.
The Charger defense will have back 3 starters two of which play at a All- pro level so the Bolts should be better in the run defense game and can keep the safeties back which would allow the CB to gamble a little more and go for the int.
I do think Shanirat wants to keep the ball out of LT hands and away from the Bolt offense and the one way to do that is run the ball. I think he is very sorry he gave so much rope to Cutler last week and expect him to dumb down the offense and try and keep the rookie out of positions where he is under pressure trying to make a big play.
The best way to do that is to run the ball.
Or get lost on the way to the stadium. ;D
fontaine
12-08-2006, 12:46 PM
You would rather have him on the inside taking on blocks? i think not!
The whole idea of OLBs in the 3-4 D is to have them bring pressure of the edge when required. Gold has the quicks but not the functional strength. He get's blown up by blocking RBs on blitzes.
400HZ
12-08-2006, 12:50 PM
Its still what Denver must find away to do this weekend IMO. The Chuggers would be stupid to do anything but sell out to stop the run. The only chance we have is to get the chuggers to soften up then get the running game going. We will NOT have any sucess coming out running the ball your to strong in that department.
As a team, we rarely sell out to stop anything. That's not Marty's style. I also don't think that we neccessarily need to sell out to stop the run. Last game we were really concerned with stopping the bootleg, and consequently gave up more yardage on the ground. It doesn't look like the bootleg is going to be a big problem this week. Our OLBs can start crashing the run lanes and worry less about outside containment.
What i really want to see is this. 3-4 defense by the broncos.
Dline-- Warren, Veal, and Myers
Linebackers-- Wilson, Webster MLB, Gold and Williams outside
cb's--Champ and Williams
Safety-- Lynch and Foxworth.
blitz webster since he is the weakest cover backer, and sub elvis for veal on passing situations on DJ's side.
I don't think you know how a 3-4 works. And this is probably not the best week for a switch :)
Some things that might work well for Denver..
1) PA and throw deep to Marshall or Walker. Our DBs aren't going to bite on the PA, but Merriman or Phillips might. That's the only way that Cutler is gonna have enough time to throw a deep ball. You might get lucky and catch us in one of our deep zone coverages, which frankly have been pretty bad this year. Even if nothing gets completed, it will make Marty and Wade Phillips think twice before moving the safeties up.
2) Get the run game going somehow
I can't think of anything else. We should be real stout against the run with both Merriman and Castillo back in the lineup. We're going to throw a lot of different looks at Cutler. I wouldn't be surprised to see some cover 0 blitzes. Definetely a lot of twists and stunts. We have the personell to keep Cutler off balance.
I'm guessing it will be more of a defensive battle than last game, with the final score being 24-13 or something.
BigBad
12-08-2006, 12:58 PM
as long as we don't keep overpersuing we will be able to stop LT like we always do.
Before the last game all you guys did was spout about LT not playing well IN Denver. He handled that pretty well huh?
At home against you guys he has averaged 115 yards a game. You couldnt stop him in Denver you wont stop him in San Diego.
RMANCIL
12-08-2006, 01:00 PM
Here is a good read
It’s desperation time for the Broncos, who have lost three games in a row and could be out of the AFC West divisional. The Chargers have it going in the right direction, having won six games in a row. So how does Denver compete on Sunday? It’ll depend on these matchups.
• Cutler vs. Phillips, Merriman
• T. Bell vs. Godfrey, Edwards
• Walker vs. Jammer
• Nalen vs. Williams
• Tomlinson, Turner vs. Gold, Williams
• Rivers vs. Ekuban, Lang
• Gates vs. Cox
• Cameron vs. Coyer
Broncos QB Jay Cutler vs.
Chargers OLBs Shaun Phillips
and Shawne Merriman
The Matchup: If Jay Cutler thought he was in a tough situation when he made his debut at home against Seattle, wait until he makes his first start against a divisional opponent on the road. Phillips and Merriman will be ready to intimidate Cutler, who appeared overwhelmed against the Seahawks. If the offensive line can give him decent protection, Cutler can use his strong arm, quick release and smarts to solve the defense.
Merriman had a monster game against the Bills, returning to action with five tackles, two sacks and two forced fumbles. He has a non-stop motor and has 10.5 sacks despite missing four games due to a suspension (substance abuse). Phillips has a great first step to the quarterback and also has 10.5 sacks.
Key stats:
Cutler -- 10-of-21 for 143 yards, 2 TDs, 2 interceptions.
Phillips -- 50 tackles, 10.5 sacks, 2 fumble recoveries.
Merriman -- 37 tackles, 10.5 sacks, 2 forced fumbles, 1 interception.
Edge: Phillips and Merriman (huge).
Broncos WR Javon Walker vs. Chargers CB Quentin Jammer
The Matchup: If the Broncos are going to do anything in the passing game, Walker must have a great game. He is certainly capable, having caught 6 passes for 134 yards and 2 touchdowns against the Steelers in Week Nine and also running 72 yards for a score on a reverse. Walker has the speed to break long plays and can also run out of tackles. His route running has improved significantly throughout his career and he become reliable when he gets his hands on the ball.
Jammer is aptly named because he is a physical corner who will challenge receivers coming off the line with a well-placed redirection. He is a good tackler who has the athletic skills to make plays on the ball. He is also a bit of a gambler, so Walker may be able to get free if he can get off the line cleanly.
Key stats:
Walker -- 53 receptions for 871 yards, 6 TDs; 6 carries for 120 yards, 1 TD.
Jammer-- 52 tackles, 4 interceptions, 6 passes defensed.
Edge: Walker (slight).
Chargers RBs LaDainian Tomlinson
and Michael Turner vs. Broncos OLBs
Ian Gold and D.J. Williams
The Matchup: Gold and Williams are two of the fastest and most productive outside linebacker tandems in the league, but that didn’t stop Tomlinson from destroying the Broncos with four TDs (one as a receiver) in the first meeting between the two teams in Week 11.
Tomlinson combines toughness, agility, long speed and incredible desire every time he takes the field. He may be the best all-around player in the game since Walter Payton was in his prime and that comparison may shortchange Tomlinson.
Gold may be the fastest linebacker in the league and Williams is close behind. They have to punish Tomlinson every time they tackle him since backup RB Michael Turner may be less than 100 percent with a hamstring injury. He has missed the Chargers’ last two games.
Key stats:
Tomlinson -- 257 carries for 1,327 yards, 5.2 ypc, 23 TDs; 51 receptions for 470 yards, 3 TDs.
Turner -- 58 carries for 357 yards, 2 TDs.
Gold -- 63 tackles, 2 passes defensed.
Williams -- 57 tackles, 2 passes defensed.
Edge: Tomlinson (significant)
the rest (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15612258/?pg=5#anc_spt_NFL_matchup)
MSNBC.com contributor Steve Silverman
Hotrod
12-08-2006, 01:04 PM
Here is a good read
We've seen this fluff piece and are not impressed. It will be much closer then this spin artist tells you. You do have the edge in the game without a doubt.
Things will have to go perfect for a Bronco win
100% team effort
2-3 breaks ie punt returns etc
we must win the TO battle by atleast 2
Its all uphill but then again it is a division game.......
TailgateNut
12-08-2006, 01:04 PM
[COLOR="Blue"] That allows the OL to do what they do best which is cut block and it moves the safeties outside the box.
Of all of the trolls which come and go each season, you are by far the most annoying individual! Please give me your address, and I'll send you a pacifier free of charge!
RMANCIL
12-08-2006, 01:05 PM
Here is the key match up.
Broncos C Tom Nalen vs Chargers NT Jamal Williams
The Matchup: This matchup will go a long way in determining Cutler’s success in this game. Nalen is a 13-year veteran who gets by on quickness and guile. At 6-3 and 286 pounds, he is not going to overpower anyone, let alone the massive 348-pound Williams.
Nalen will clearly have his hands filled because Williams has good initial quickness and can collapse the pocket. Nalen will use his experience, agility and quickness against Williams’ power, know-how and toughness.
Key stat:
Williams-- 49 tackles, 2 sacks, 1 pass defensed
Nalen will need help on Williams and the Broncos love to tie a player up with the oc then cut him with a OG as the OC releases and goes second level.
rbackfactory80
12-08-2006, 01:06 PM
The only chance we have is no turnovers and stop the run. Its simple in theory, but in practice not so much.
RMANCIL
12-08-2006, 01:08 PM
Of all of the trolls which come and go each season, you are by far the most annoying individual! Please give me your address, and I'll send you a pacifier free of charge!
If the fact that the Donks cut block a lot is seen by you as me whining then you need to try watching the OL a little more and the QB , RB ,wr, ball a little less.
Hotrod
12-08-2006, 01:08 PM
Here is the key match up.
Broncos C Tom Nalen vs Chargers NT Jamal Williams
The Matchup: This matchup will go a long way in determining Cutler’s success in this game. Nalen is a 13-year veteran who gets by on quickness and guile. At 6-3 and 286 pounds, he is not going to overpower anyone, let alone the massive 348-pound Williams.
Nalen will clearly have his hands filled because Williams has good initial quickness and can collapse the pocket. Nalen will use his experience, agility and quickness against Williams’ power, know-how and toughness.
Key stat:
Williams-- 49 tackles, 2 sacks, 1 pass defensed
Nalen will need help on Williams and the Broncos love to tie a player up with the oc then cut him with a OG as the OC releases and goes second level.
Nails and the Broncos have dealt with many a fatty before. Williams is a special fatty but still just another fatty.
TailgateNut
12-08-2006, 01:12 PM
If the fact that the Donks cut block a lot is seen by you as me whining then you need to try watching the OL a little more and the QB , RB ,wr, ball a little less.
Is the cut blocking you refer to illegal. .......OK.....then STFU about it!
Hotrod
12-08-2006, 01:20 PM
I say on the first play Jay spikes the ball and nails falls near Igor's feet :wiggle:
TailgateNut
12-08-2006, 01:28 PM
I say on the first play Jay spikes the ball and nails falls near Igor's feet :wiggle:
LOL If that happens RMANCIL will increase his post count by 3000 next week. Tears will flood the place!
RMANCIL
12-08-2006, 01:29 PM
Is the cut blocking you refer to illegal. .......OK.....then STFU about it!
Why does the fact that the Donks cut block bother you?
RMANCIL
12-08-2006, 01:31 PM
I say on the first play Jay spikes the ball and nails falls near Igor's feet :wiggle:
If Nails and company take Williams out it would kill the Bolts. Williams is almost irreplaceable in our defense at this time. He may be the best NG in football and he sets the table for us.
Hotrod
12-08-2006, 01:32 PM
If Nails and company take Williams out it would kill the Bolts. Williams is almost irreplaceable in our defense at this time. He may be the best NG in football and he sets the table for us.
Well if fatty does not take plays off and keeps his head on a swivel like hes supposed to he should be fine.
Mile High Shack
12-08-2006, 01:33 PM
If Nails and company take Williams out it would kill the Bolts. Williams is almost irreplaceable in our defense at this time. He may be the best NG in football and he sets the table for us.
can he fold napkins purty?
RMANCIL
12-08-2006, 01:35 PM
can he fold napkins purty?
Why you need some instructions for your next Tea party ?
Mile High Shack
12-08-2006, 01:35 PM
Why you need some instructions for your next Tea party ?
you'll have to ask someone else
I'm not sure the proper technique on teabagging someone
RMANCIL
12-08-2006, 01:37 PM
Well if fatty does not take plays off and keeps his head on a swivel like hes supposed to he should be fine.
Williams never takes plays off. He may run a RB down along the side line but taking plays off is not in his game plan.
He absolutely controls the middle and is key for the Chargers controlling the rum up the middle. He does a great job of collapsing the pocket as well.
RMANCIL
12-08-2006, 01:38 PM
you'll have to ask someone else
I'm not sure the proper technique on teabagging someone
Ask one of your buddys.
RMANCIL
12-08-2006, 01:45 PM
On the Nalen front
Olshansky: All quiet on the Nalen front
Associated Press
National Football League News Wire
SAN DIEGO -- No one expects another go-around between San
Diego defensive end Igor Olshansky and Denver center Tom Nalen when the AFC West-leading Chargers host the Broncos on Sunday.
"It's over," Olshansky said Wednesday about his dustup with
Nalen on Nov. 19 that resulted in $35,000 worth of fines.
Nalen was fined $25,000 for a cut block on Olshansky as Jake
Plummer spiked the ball late in the Chargers' 35-27 win. Olshansky
retaliated by punching Nalen, was whistled for a personal foul and
ejected. He was fined $10,000. Both are appealing.
While not expecting the bad blood to continue, Olshansky said
he'll still be aware of the Broncos' cut blocking.
"You should be," Olshansky said. "It's just their history of
hurting players. The way to counteract it is to just go 100 percent
to protect yourself."
At the time the fines were levied, NFL spokesman Greg Aiello
said tapes showed that while the other 10 Broncos stood up, Nalen
went at Olshansky's ankles.
"Our game doesn't need any of that, on either side," Chargers
coach Marty Schottenheimer said when the fines were levied.
The Broncos have long been criticized by coaches and players
from other teams for their system of cut blocking. It is an annual
subject at the NFL meetings and the rules have been modified to
penalize certain cut blocks thrown by two players.
"There's always been a lot of dialogue about it, but it's a
non-issue to me," Schottenheimer said Wednesday.
In December 2002, Chargers defensive tackle Jamal Williams
sustained a season-ending dislocated ankle when he was clipped by
Broncos guard Steve Herndon. Herndon was fined one game's pay, and he and Broncos coach Mike Shanahan apologized to Williams and the Chargers.
Williams had surgery, and Schottenheimer described Herndon's
block at the time as "disturbing."
"We had the one, the injury that occurred to Jamal a couple of
years ago," Schottenheimer said. "That was really not necessary.
What they're doing, in my opinion, if it indeed is illegal, the
officials will throw the flag. I have every confidence that one of
the objectives for the officials is player safety. They have a
unique style. They have a style that's different than
everybody's."
Said Williams: "You're aware of it, but when the game's going
on, you're not thinking about that stuff. It's all about making
sure you do your job out there. Some people say it's dirty, but
some people say hey, that's the way they try to get you off your
game."
Asked if he thought the scheme is dirty, Williams replied:
"Football's football. Things happen. You've got to just go out
there and play."
Shanahan said he'd "be surprised if both players don't handle
themselves in the class manner they handle themselves with off the
field."
The Chargers (10-2) can clinch a playoff spot with a win Sunday.
If the Chargers win and the Kansas City Chiefs either tie or lose
against Baltimore, San Diego will win the AFC West.
The Chargers haven't swept the series since 1982.
San Diego's other defensive end, Luis Castillo, said his goal is
to play Sunday after missing the previous four games with a
sprained ankle.
"This has been the first realistic chance of playing. Hopefully
things will go on pace and I'll be out there," he said.
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azbroncfan
12-08-2006, 04:48 PM
I say on the first play Jay spikes the ball and nails falls near Igor's feet :wiggle: I agree its worth 15 yards and a first down.
Mile High Mojoe
12-08-2006, 04:58 PM
All of these are good suggestions here’s some.
Have Cutler take a deeper drop than just 3 steps. Install the shotgun so he has more time in obvious passing situations.
More than that just pound the rock with whoever Shanahan puts in at RB and stay with it all day if it’s working. If we can run the ball, control the clock, slow down Tomlinson and avoid turnovers there is no reason why we shouldn’t have a good chance in this game.
BigBad
12-08-2006, 04:59 PM
I say payback the source. Someone should dive at the Rat Shannahan's knees on the sideline. It would be funny seeing that jerk carted off like JoePa.
socalorado
12-08-2006, 05:25 PM
EASY TIGER....EASY...... Why all the hostility towards the coaching staff?
Next question- Are you going to watch the game at seau's?
bcbronc
12-08-2006, 11:45 PM
I'd like the Broncs to come out and run some shot gun with 3 and 4 wideouts. Call some quick hit passes to start the game (maybe even with some no-huddle for the scripted plays). The chargers are going to expect a conservative game plan, and we're not going to win without a big game from cutler, so come out swinging.
Plummer's last quarter saw a bit of what I want to see. Four recievers, lots of motion by Javon, then getting the ball quickly into his hands. The weakest link in the chargers D is their secondary, so lets see if Javon or Marshall can shake a tackle and take it to the house.
Quick read and throw plays from the shotgun also reduce the reads Cutler needs to make against a tough defense. One, maybe two, reads then tuck it and run (or eat it if nothing else is there :hitself: ). Should slow the pass rush down, and hopefully get the chargers in some nickel d's. Then hopefully hit Bell up the gut.
offensive key: first downs. 3rd and 8+ is bad news for us.
defensive key: 3rd downs. Have to get LT off the field when we have a chance.
who needs to step up: nate jackson/tony scheffler. Alexander is fine, but he doesn't bring much big play potential. I think it'll take 2-3 big plays from our TEs to come out on top.
