Phil Simms Thinks Cutler Looks OK [Archive] - The Orange Mane

DeusExManning

12-07-2006, 08:00 PM

Saw this on NFL.com, thought I could start yet another Cutler thread
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/9854424

Cutler looks okay

Another rookie quarterback made his NFL debut last week. Jay Cutler's first career start was a home loss to Seattle, but that's okay. I love reading and hearing all the reactions to his start, a home loss to Seattle. But nothing in that game disappointed me. Here's what I took out of it: Cutler is much, much more athletic than I thought. His foot movement is very good for an NFL quarterback. His arm strength -- not just how hard he can throw the football, but also his touch and accuracy -- were good.

Don't worry about arm strength alone -- most fans can't tell the difference between the weakest arm and strongest arm in the NFL. But Cutler's ability to throw the football is every bit as good as I thought it would be. He threw some incompletions that I was impressed with. I didn't see him miss any wide-open receivers. He was decisive, did what you'd want him to do with the football.

I'm working the Denver-San Diego this week, so I'll get a much closer look and maybe I'll follow up next week with what I see in person.

~Crash~

12-07-2006, 08:12 PM

that is about right glad someone can see I have seen some realy stupid statements about how Cutler handled his first start !!!!!!

DeusExManning

12-07-2006, 08:21 PM

Oddly enough one his most impressive throws for me was when he threw off his back foot for a first down. They were coming at him and he only had a split second. His release was quick and he still got it to the receiver.

Popps

12-07-2006, 08:23 PM

footstepsfrom#27

12-07-2006, 08:34 PM

I didn't see him miss any wide-open receivers

Well, then you didn't watch the game, Phil. Alexander was WIDE open for about a 15 yard gain and Cutler just threw it 5 yards behind him. (Among others)

The kid had a rough game. There's no reason to be silly and start talking about how good his "incompletions" were. Just write it off as the usual shaky start by a rookie. He doesn't need excuses made for him. He just had a bad game. He'll get better.

He's got talent, and if he's got the head... he'll improve every week.
I also saw Cutler do some good things that I didn't notice until I watched the video over again. For one thing, he responded well under pressure for the most part. He threw the ball pretty well with people in his face, the pick 6 being the lone exception. I think considering he'd not even been running the Denver offense all this time in practice, but the oppositions instead, he played about as well as one could expect under the circumstances. I think he'll improve this week against SD.

Cito Pelon

12-07-2006, 08:56 PM

If you guys say it was impressive in some way, that's fine with me.

Seeings how Jay said he couldn't grasp the game plan, and Shanny seconded that, isn't a confidence-booster for me.

I was very disappointed. I blame myself for a lot of this disappointment, since I bought into Shanny's BS way too much. What a load of rubbish comes out of that guy's mouth.

Sassy

12-07-2006, 08:59 PM

I also saw Cutler do some good things that I didn't notice until I watched the video over again. For one thing, he responded well under pressure for the most part. He threw the ball pretty well with people in his face, the pick 6 being the lone exception. I think considering he'd not even been running the Denver offense all this time in practice, but the oppositions instead, he played about as well as one could expect under the circumstances. I think he'll improve this week against SD.

He should improve...however, SD is a better team than Seattle...I am going to cheer for this team and be loud...but I can't say I have a lot of confidence that the Broncos will win this game...not from what I've seen of this "TEAM" and I don't mean just the QB.

-Slap-

12-07-2006, 09:49 PM

Its comical how many people don't understand the concept of game speed.

I thought this comment by Phil was kind of dumb:

Don't worry about arm strength alone -- most fans can't tell the difference between the weakest arm and strongest arm in the NFL.

I would wager even the most casual fans can tell a strong arm when they see one.

Jason in LA

12-07-2006, 09:49 PM

Rock Chalk

12-07-2006, 10:06 PM

Seeing that Plummer has had five games with a lower passer rating than what Cutler had on Sunday, I'd agree, Cutler looked alright. He wasn't worse than Plummer, which is what a lot of us said he wouldn't be.

Dont worry, by the end of the year, Junior will have one less loss on his record this year than Plummer has for this year, in just under half as many games.

orinjkrush

12-07-2006, 10:06 PM

i'm more worried about the kid getting shell shocked by shanny than by the opposing defense. shanny tends to criticize everything all the time.

Kaylore

12-07-2006, 10:32 PM

People here don't get that there were a lot of things he did well. He made a completion off his back foot on third down. He managed to check down to scheffler and get the ball in a tight window...on third down.

What he means by "good incompletions" are throws that either the receiver was going to get it, or no one else was. There were quite a few of these.

Obviously as Popps mentioned he did miss some wide open receivers. I don't ever remember him throwing behind Alexander, but he did miss Scheffler on a roll out and he missed him again when he he threw to a double covered walker as Scheffler had separation and was moving up field.

There were lots of things he did well that are a really showing promise. People that write the game off as "all bad and just rookie garbage play" don't understand what it is to learn the position of QB and probably don't understand mechanics either.

Kaylore

12-07-2006, 10:32 PM

i'm more worried about the kid getting shell shocked by shanny than by the opposing defense. shanny tends to criticize everything all the time.

If you can't take rough coaching you don't belong in the NFL.

Cito Pelon

12-07-2006, 11:23 PM

I can see the arguments for "good incompletions". But it didn't look to me like the kid really knew what he was doing or looked like he had a plan out there on the field. Looked like his mind was whirling, and I guess it's on me for buying into the BS that he was ready to be efficient.

The TD to Alexander I thought was superb, considering I don't recall that particular pass play being completed at that point on the field for quite a few years. The post to Walker, Jay f'd that one up pretty good. That was a horrible pass. That pattern had TD written all over it.

So I guess I'll see what Sunday brings, and hope it all slows down for the kid. I can see how things will work out better for Jay when he has a chance to get into a bit of a groove. And really, last week wasn't much of a groove. Apparently, he didn't even know for sure he was starting til Sunday at the earliest.

Rock Chalk

12-08-2006, 12:06 AM

People here don't get that there were a lot of things he did well. He made a completion off his back foot on third down. He managed to check down to scheffler and get the ball in a tight window...on third down.

More often than not, thats going to be an incompletion or interception though. Thats not good practice, throwing off your back foot, not for ANYONE.

What he means by "good incompletions" are throws that either the receiver was going to get it, or no one else was. There were quite a few of these.

Hmm, Jake had a lot of good incompletions. BTW, I saw none of his incompletions that anyone was going to get, but maybe I missed one of his 11 incompletions.

Obviously as Popps mentioned he did miss some wide open receivers. I don't ever remember him throwing behind Alexander, but he did miss Scheffler on a roll out and he missed him again when he he threw to a double covered walker as Scheffler had separation and was moving up field.

He almost missed Alexander on the TD. Alexander made a helluva play to get that pass. I dont remember the one behind Alexander but I remember the Sheffler one you are talking about. Not sure why he kept throwing to a blanketed Walker though.

There were lots of things he did well that are a really showing promise. People that write the game off as "all bad and just rookie garbage play" don't understand what it is to learn the position of QB and probably don't understand mechanics either.
I saw more things done bad than done well. He is very raw. Too raw to win a SB this year. His mechanics seemed OK, though he has a noticeable tale when he is going to throw the ball. That ball slap **** alerts the entire defense that he is about to throw it, so go where he is looking. I noticed him look off his receiver exactly once the entire game too. He stared down Walker every time he was going to throw to him and only checked down once or twice that I can remember (I have only watched the game once, as it was a loss and I have no desire to relive any loss). Granted, he had no more time to go through progressions than Plummer had so I guess it cant be helped, but for all those talking about it would be nice to have a QB go through his reads, well, we still need one of those. Actually, Cutler probably can, but not with our O-line as is.

PLayoffs? I just want to win another game and assure ourselves yet another non-losing season. It'd be nice to win 2 more, but that would just be icing. Seriously. 3 would be icing with the blowjob from the hot chic next door. 4, well, let's get one more win first.

Taco John

12-08-2006, 12:23 AM

The thing that pissed me off about the game is how many late hits the refs allowed on Cutler, especially around the knees. There was a lot of roughing that should have been called.

Taco John

12-08-2006, 12:26 AM

He almost missed Alexander on the TD.

No he didn't. Alexander almost dropped a good pass. It was pretty cold out there, but he should have had that in one grab. It was right in stride with the route and he muffed it, but recovered it on the bounce.

WABronco

12-08-2006, 12:30 AM

Its comical how many people don't understand the concept of game speed.

I thought this comment by Phil was kind of dumb:

I would wager even the most casual fans can tell a strong arm when they see one.

Yea...no kidding.

A blind man could tell the difference between Brad Johnson and a guy with an arm like Cutler.

-Slap-

12-08-2006, 12:47 AM

The only misconception that still really persists are when people try to judge a guy's arm by his deep ball. The real story is told by how he drives the ball in the intermediate game.

Drek

12-08-2006, 12:47 AM

The post to Walker, Jay f'd that one up pretty good. That was a horrible pass. That pattern had TD written all over it.
I don't see how you can break down a post play without actually knowing the exact play called. The one real good shot Jay and Javon had of hooking up in the endzone fell apart when Javon pulled up looking for the ball inside, after Jay had already put it up outside and deep. Unless you're part of the Broncos coaching staff its pretty hard to tell who was in the wrong there, or if either one was. For all we know Javon simply didn't think Jay would be capable of getting the ball down field that quickly and that he had time to react, when the ball was really already well on its way over his head.

I don't think Jay had a bad game at all. It wasn't great by any stretch, but in his first NFL game he showed me more playmaking ability than Jake has shown all season. Early on he was overthrowing very badly, clearly nerves because he settled down and that went away. The OL also didn't do him any favors, especially Hamilton and Foster, for the former it was a rare bad game, for the later its pretty clear why he was originally benched for Meadows (he pass blocks with all the tenacity of a wet, hungry kitten). Jay responded poorly to the pressure the OL allowed to come down on him, but if you didn't expect that from a rookie thats pretty sad, especially knowing that our STs would give him horrible field position (they did worse than even I had expected).

Jay showed some real improvement over the course of just one game, more than Plummer has shown all this season, so I was pretty happy with his play (definitely not with the loss) and I expect him to play even better this weekend, even though its against a quality pass rushing Chargers team.

Taco John

12-08-2006, 01:04 AM

I don't have a problem with this throw. I thought he led Alexander pretty well. Yeah, if he threw it any higher, you could say it was almost a missed touchdown. But he threw it in a spot where only Alexander could get it while on the run.

Taco John

12-08-2006, 01:14 AM

His mechanics seemed OK, though he has a noticeable tale when he is going to throw the ball. That ball slap **** alerts the entire defense that he is about to throw it, so go where he is looking.

I just got through the entire first quarter looking for this, and didn't see it once.

Kaylore

12-08-2006, 01:21 AM

No he didn't. Alexander almost dropped a good pass. It was pretty cold out there, but he should have had that in one grab. It was right in stride with the route and he muffed it, but recovered it on the bounce.

Actually that ball was a bit high. Alexander had to tap it to himself. It was in front of him, but it was high. Cutler struggled with his passes being a bit high in camp. I'm not surprised.

watermock

12-08-2006, 01:24 AM

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That avatar explains Newton's law of gravity better and any math teacher ever could. Especially for a 16 year old.

Taco John

12-08-2006, 01:25 AM

Actually that ball was a bit high. Alexander had to tap it to himself. It was in front of him, but it was high. Cutler struggled with his passes being a bit high in camp. I'm not surprised.

I just disagree. He had both hands on it, and could have grabbed it on the first touch. I think the cold, hard ball combined with the velocity of the pass had an effect. I think a softer ball in the sunny San Diego weather would have resulted in a one touch grab.

Either way: Touchdown Broncos.

Kaylore

12-08-2006, 01:25 AM

though he has a noticeable tale when he is going to throw the ball. That ball slap **** alerts the entire defense that he is about to throw it, so go where he is looking.

Elway did that every time he threw the ball. It's nowhere near as big a tell as you're making it. The only thing it might hurt is the offensive linemen who might hear it and then stop blocking thinking he already threw, and if he hasn't thrown it yet, he could get sacked.

watermock

12-08-2006, 01:31 AM

It was a marginal throw and great catch. Jay will be calmer next week I think..or at least hope. Remember that snag Alex made last year in the back of the end zone...It was Dwight Clarkesque.

I'm not a huge Alexander fan, but he has a knack for going up and snagging balls without losing his feet.

-Slap-

12-08-2006, 02:06 AM

Elway did that every time he threw the ball. It's nowhere near as big a tell as you're making it. The only thing it might hurt is the offensive linemen who might hear it and then stop blocking thinking he already threw, and if he hasn't thrown it yet, he could get sacked.

Bingo. I was waiting for someone to say this.

Ironically, the Chargers intercepted Elway more than any other team (led by noted Elway Killer Gil Byrd) when he was a young quarterback and they were the first to float that theory. The Broncos laughed it off.

DeusExManning

12-08-2006, 02:48 AM

Alec all you did was defend every play that Jake Plummer ever did and consistently told us to support our quarterback, now you are looking for everything that is wrong. Make up your mind, are you Bronco fan or just a Plummer fan.

The Moops

12-08-2006, 08:58 AM

ol number 7

12-08-2006, 09:35 AM

He should improve...however, SD is a better team than Seattle...I am going to cheer for this team and be loud...but I can't say I have a lot of confidence that the Broncos will win this game...not from what I've seen of this "TEAM" and I don't mean just the QB.

Bump I can't believe our 4th quarter "D" if you can call it that has to be close to the bottom in the league. I just want to turn it off at the start of the fourth as it is unbearable to watch it slip away week after week.

Sassy

12-08-2006, 10:26 AM

bronco militia

12-08-2006, 10:33 AM

"most fans can't tell the difference between the weakest arm and strongest arm in the NFL"........simms

uh what?!?!

55CrushEm

12-08-2006, 11:08 AM

No he didn't. Alexander almost dropped a good pass. It was pretty cold out there, but he should have had that in one grab. It was right in stride with the route and he muffed it, but recovered it on the bounce.

Exactly, Taco......Alec just can't seem to get the taste of Plummer's b@lls out of his mouth.......

Give him time....

HEAV

12-08-2006, 12:17 PM

I just disagree. He had both hands on it, and could have grabbed it on the first touch. I think the cold, hard ball combined with the velocity of the pass had an effect. I think a softer ball in the sunny San Diego weather would have resulted in a one touch grab.

Either way: Touchdown Broncos.

Gawd you are such a Cutler homer........

TerrElway

12-08-2006, 12:28 PM

Bump I can't believe our 4th quarter "D" if you can call it that has to be close to the bottom in the league. I just want to turn it off at the start of the fourth as it is unbearable to watch it slip away week after week.

I think the agile, smaller defense works well early but they get worn down as the season goes on and give up more. The wear down will happen not matter what the size but I think it's harder on a smaller, speed D. I'd like to see them bulk up a little up front. The offense having so many struggles has surely taken it's toll on the D as well, keeping them on the field and more often than not surrendering decent field position.

It would be interesting to see the second half of the season defensive numbers from the past few years. Maybe it's time for Coyer to start throwing the blitzes back into the mix a little bit? It's time to do something new that's for sure.

Hell, for that matter, I think they need to bulk up a little on the O-line too. Aren't there players in the 305 range that can move their feet and work in the zone blocking scheme?

The injuries haven't helped this year and that is a big wild card every year. Look at the teams who go far and/or win it all each year. They've all stayed healthy (relatively speaking) at key positions the entire year. When was the last time Indy lost a bunch of starters? San Diego has been healthy all year. What would happen in LT went down? The way they use him he'll blow a tire within the next 2 years I believe. Same with Larry Johnson in KC.

It's a crapshoot every year in "The Show" so you'd better do a good job with what you can control.

Taco John

12-08-2006, 12:34 PM

Don't you wish Cutler's first TD had gone to Scheffler? At least the second went to Marshall.

Just not a big Stephen Alexander fan. He's been pretty average his whole career and he was a 2nd round pick. I guess Shanny likes him because he can block. But I think part of the problem in KC was that Alexander, for some reason, was a big part of Shanny's game plan. That's not going to get you too far.

SA has been a great lockerroom presence for us, and not so bad a field presence either.

Taco John

12-08-2006, 12:35 PM

Gawd you are such a Cutler homer........

Coming from a Plummer homer, I'll take that one in stride.

Taco John

12-08-2006, 12:37 PM

For what it's worth, Jay smoked Plummer in third down conversions. Jay was 6 of 9 on third down passes for 67%. Jake has been at 49% on the season.

BroncoInferno

12-08-2006, 01:01 PM

For what it's worth, Jay smoked Plummer in third down conversions. Jay was 6 of 9 on third down passes for 67%. Jake has been at 49% on the season.

It isn't worth much, as only three of the completions resulted in a conversion.

Taco John

12-08-2006, 01:10 PM

It isn't worth much, as only three of the completions resulted in a conversion.

A near 20% completion rate on third downs isn't worth much? Who knows if it holds up (I'd bet it does), but it's certainly nothing to shake a stick at.

BroncoInferno

12-08-2006, 01:12 PM

A near 20% completion rate on third downs isn't worth much? Who knows if it holds up (I'd bet it does), but it's certainly nothing to shake a stick at.

If that were the percentage of third downs he converted it would be meaningful. In that regard, he was at 33%. What good is a two yard completion on 3rd and 7?

Mile High Shack

12-08-2006, 01:16 PM

If that were the percentage of third downs he converted it would be meaningful. In that regard, he was at 33%. What good is a two yard completion on 3rd and 7?

that is pure SOB right there

3rd and 7 for 3 yard gain..LOL

I think people are looking in to too much in his first game ever

by game 16 I think we can see more of what he'll be like as a player

jayman_37

12-08-2006, 01:18 PM

If you look at the rollout pass the sheffler from the endzone view you would realize that if he led sheffler its a pick. Sheffler should sit down in the zone and find the hole not just run without worrying where the defense is. Cutler was also late on the throw but it wasnt all jay's fault.

BroncoInferno

12-08-2006, 01:19 PM

that is pure SOB right there

3rd and 7 for 3 yard gain..LOL

I think people are looking in to too much in his first game ever

by game 16 I think we can see more of what he'll be like as a player

Yep. Taco is going to tear his hamstring with all the stretching he's been doing in a laughable attempt to make Cutler's debut look like a success.

NYBronco

12-08-2006, 01:21 PM

The article doesn't mention the obvious lack of pass protection Cutler had to experience. So I take the comments from a former NFL QB as positive statements concerning the rookies performance. Imagine the result if Cutler had an additional half second or better in pass protection.

Mile High Shack

12-08-2006, 01:21 PM

Yep. Taco is going to tear his hamstring with all the stretching he's been doing in a laughable attempt to make Cutler's debut look like a success.

totally agree with you

both extremes of the argument are wrong, it's somewhere in between

he is what he is...a rookie and there is a reason not many rookies win playoff games

BroncoInferno

12-08-2006, 01:25 PM

totally agree with you

both extremes of the argument are wrong, it's somewhere in between

he is what he is...a rookie and there is a reason not many rookies win playoff games

That's the balanced take. I agreed with the move and still do, but not because I thought Jay would come in and be markedly better than Jake, but because it became apparent we weren't going anywhere this season with Plummer and we might as well let the kid get a few starts under his belt so he can hit the ground running in '07. If we end up playing a playoff game or two, it will be gravy.

HEAV

12-08-2006, 01:25 PM

For what it's worth, Jay smoked Plummer in third down conversions. Jay was 6 of 9 on third down passes for 67%. Jake has been at 49% on the season.

Geez dude, it's one freaking game. A game in which we still lost. A game in which the kid threw a pass on a designed run play, which went right into the hands of a Seahawk for an easy TD.

Let's see how the kid handles the Chargers in SD. This game could get ugly before half time.

----

But Homer all you want TJ.

HEAV

12-08-2006, 01:28 PM

That's the balanced take. I agreed with the move and still do, but not because I thought Jay would come in and be markedly better than Jake, but because it became apparent we weren't going anywhere this season with Plummer and we might as well let the kid get a few starts under his belt so he can hit the ground running in '07. If we end up playing a playoff game or two, it will be gravy.

Now there is an excellent post on the change.

Rather then hype the kid to ELWAY levels, some people need to see reality!

But some prefer to play the bug on the windshield of reality!

Circle Orange

12-08-2006, 01:31 PM

There's a lot of angry and cursing vets on this team, I'd bet. Forget the party line, no one wants to 'wrap up a season' when you've still got a shot (altho a lousy one). Players aren't dumb, and the coaches won't sell them a bill of goods with this 'win now' stuff either. http://scosoft.com/s/x/220786cc.gif

Taco John

12-08-2006, 01:35 PM

Mile High Shack

12-08-2006, 01:37 PM

How it it being a homer to look at the positives of his performance? There were some positives, even if you don't want to look at them. Blowing up the idea of looking at positives into turning him into Elway is a laugh. Saying that it's good that Cutler's third down completion percentage rate jumped almost 20 percent over Jake isn't a stretch at all.

He definitely played tight. I can't wait to see him loosen up a bit.

me either, but it ain't gonna happen for a little bit, inserting a wide eyed rook on to a team that had a playoff shot would cause even the strongest of men to weaken a bit, until they regain their confidence.

BroncoInferno

12-08-2006, 01:37 PM

Saying that it's good that Cutler's third down completion percentage rate jumped almost 20 percent over Jake isn't a stretch at all.

It's a bit misleading though given that only 33% of his third down attempts resulted in a conversion, which is the more relevant stat. Again, what good is a three yard completion on 3rd and 7?

Popps

12-08-2006, 01:41 PM

Obviously as Popps mentioned he did miss some wide open receivers. I don't ever remember him throwing behind Alexander, but he did miss Scheffler on a roll out and he missed him again when he he threw to a double covered walker as Scheffler had separation and was moving up field.

He took the snap and rolled right, can't recall if it was a designed boot or if he was flushed out. He was on the move... and had Alexander (unless I got the # wrong and it was indeed Sheffler) wide open, and threw it about 5 yards behind him.

That was the only real disappointing throw of the night. The rest were just rookie jitters, and getting his ass kicked by the pass rush on every play.

Thank god he's mobile, though. He showed some nice ability to elude the rush, which he's going to need on this team for a while.

I wonder how Shanny is going to switch things up to make it easier for him this week. He worked from the gun in college, I'd like to see us put that in right away. I'm just a big fan of the shotgun (for our offense) in general.

Taco John

12-08-2006, 01:41 PM

It's a bit misleading though given that only 33% of his third down attempts resulted in a conversion, which is the more relevant stat. Again, what good is a three yard completion on 3rd and 7?

It's not misleading at all. Not all 49% of Jake's third down completions went for first downs. Third down completions are what they are: completions. Jay had a near 20% jump in that stat over what Jake was completing. That means more opportunities to convert.

You guys can sit there and look at things with your glass half empty perspective if you want. I'm used to it by now. But there were some positives to take from the Seattle game, whether folks have soiled their daipers over Jake's benching or not.

broncosteven

12-08-2006, 05:07 PM

Dont worry, by the end of the year, Junior will have one less loss on his record this year than Plummer has for this year, in just under half as many games.

& as many Playoff wins!

Too bad next year he could exclipse Jakes Playoff record.

BroncoBuff

12-08-2006, 05:51 PM

No he didn't. Alexander almost dropped a good pass. It was pretty cold out there, but he should have had that in one grab. It was right in stride with the route and he muffed it, but recovered it on the bounce.

It was a bit high .... but very catchable. The one to Scheffler was inaccurate I thought.

I'm glad Simms is doing the game though, that's good news.

Florida_Bronco

12-08-2006, 06:22 PM

Don't you wish Cutler's first TD had gone to Scheffler? At least the second went to Marshall.

Just not a big Stephen Alexander fan. He's been pretty average his whole career and he was a 2nd round pick. I guess Shanny likes him because he can block. But I think part of the problem in KC was that Alexander, for some reason, was a big part of Shanny's game plan. That's not going to get you too far.

Stephen Alexander has at least 1 Pro Bowl berth under his belt, which is alot more than most 2nd round picks can say. He's also a much bigger receiving threat than he is given credit for.

Raidersbane

12-08-2006, 07:41 PM

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That avatar explains Newton's law of gravity better and any math teacher ever could. Especially for a 16 year old.

Newton's law states that silicon helps make big boobies?

Dr. Broncenstein

12-08-2006, 07:53 PM

Newton's law states that silicon helps make big boobies?

I think he was referring to Newton's 4th law -- which states that raunchiness of avitar is inversley proportional to success with women.

Taco John

12-08-2006, 07:58 PM

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DeusExManning

12-08-2006, 08:00 PM

I think he was referring to Newton's 4th law -- which states that raunchiness of avitar is inversley proportional to success with women.

Dr. Bronenstein, these are my wives? What are you saying?

scorpio

12-08-2006, 08:00 PM

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Dr. Broncenstein

12-08-2006, 08:14 PM

Hilarious! ...which reminds me. I've got a new avatar to put up:

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broncosteven

12-09-2006, 12:03 AM

BTW

Cough *** Cutler is a god *** Cough, cough.

Just thought since there was a Nun on this thread we needed a God reference also.

Kaylore

12-09-2006, 12:16 AM

He took the snap and rolled right, can't recall if it was a designed boot or if he was flushed out. He was on the move... and had Alexander (unless I got the # wrong and it was indeed Sheffler) wide open, and threw it about 5 yards behind him.

That was the only real disappointing throw of the night. The rest were just rookie jitters, and getting his ass kicked by the pass rush on every play.

Thank god he's mobile, though. He showed some nice ability to elude the rush, which he's going to need on this team for a while.

I wonder how Shanny is going to switch things up to make it easier for him this week. He worked from the gun in college, I'd like to see us put that in right away. I'm just a big fan of the shotgun (for our offense) in general.
It was Scheffler.