Does Shanahan deserve a contract extension?

[jayman_37]

He is set to sign a new extension and Len Pasquarelli wrote in a column today he didn't understand why. He said that Shanahan couldnt bring along Griese or Plummer to become quarterbacks so why would they want him there to bring along Cutler. I think Shanahan does a great job and its a great idea to try and keep him. I just want to get a gauge on what everyone else thinks here. They also ragged on him for only winning one playoff game since Elway left. So does he deserve to stay for about 6 more years?

[OrangeShadow]

Y-e-s YES

[Taco John]

18 more years.

[Bronx33]

Ohhhhhhh good gawd! the flow chart is in affect man Pasquarelli is a showboatin poptart ok Mr Pasquarelli (name ONE replacement for shanahan) that can hold his luggage at the airport?

[(Jae)]

He said that Shanahan couldnt bring along Griese or Plummer to become quarterbacks

?

Who in the hell could.

Lets see what he can do with someone who has the tools to get the job done at the QB position.

[frerottenextelway]

Pasquarelli is one of the most corrupt reporters around. He's also an idiot. Shanahan is an elite coach, period.

[Popps]

He is set to sign a new extension and Len Pasquarelli wrote in a column today he didn't understand why. He said that Shanahan couldnt bring along Griese or Plummer to become quarterbacks so why would they want him there to bring along Cutler. I think Shanahan does a great job and its a great idea to try and keep him. I just want to get a gauge on what everyone else thinks here. They also ragged on him for only winning one playoff game since Elway left. So does he deserve to stay for about 6 more years?

Yea, what did Shanahan do with Griese besides take a dumpy, moderately skilled QB and make a Pro Bowl talent out of him? I mean, Griese has gone on to so much success without Shanahan, right?

Then, he takes a maligned, erratic Jake Plummer and compiles mind-boggling stats over a 3.5 year period, winning at a .750 clip.

Then, there's that matter of winning Superbowls with Elway (something Reeves couldn't do) and calling one of the most dominant offenses in history with Steve Young in SF.

Yea, no good reason to think Shanahan would have any success with a blue chip talent like Cutler.

[freak6]

Well since our running game is what has killed Jake Plummer(5th in NFL), and our Defensive Coordinator is average or less than average (#5 in def scoring last year and this year) and our special teams sucks, and he has failed to draft or elevate our D-Line (as many sacks in half of 06 season as all of 05 season), and he can't draft for crap (Cutler, Marshall, Dumervil, Bell, Davis, Portis, Gary, Anderson, Darrent, etc...), he regularly gets screwed on trades(Champ, Lelie), I'd say...

NO.

Especially after posting a 7-4 record with Jake Plummer at QB.

[NYBronco]

No doubt he should stay.

Shanahan is one of the top 5 coaches in the league and has been for sometime. Don't ask me who the other four are, I have no clue.

[footstepsfrom#27]

Flush this thread. :flush:

[Al Wilson]

Shanahan is god. I'd sign him for life.

[DomCasual]

In a word, Pasquarelli is a dumbass.

[broncsyanks]

yep

[WABronco]

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[loborugger]

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Who in the hell could.

Lets see what he can do with someone who has the tools to get the job done at the QB position.


EXACTLY! Pastabelly is a boob. SOB is backing up Rex Grossman now before being run outta TB and Miami (two teams with shaky QB situations). All said, Shanny has gotten far and away more than any of those other 3 teams. Ditto on Jake - although he hasnt been that many places. But his ratings here vs AZ are night and day. I bet that last season was Jake's apex and this year a sorry swan song. Unless someone like Buffalo wants him to patch their flat tire for a year or two, he probably wont start next year.

[WABronco]

Another coach seemingly poised to receive an extension, although we're hard-pressed to figure out why, is Mike Shanahan of Denver. Citing league sources, The NFL Network reported this week that owner Pat Bowlen wants to add two more years to the two still remaining on Shanahan's pricey contract. The rationale is that the additional years will guarantee Shanahan is around long enough to preside over the development of Cutler. Here's hoping, if that's the case, Shanahan does a far better job with the former Vanderbilt star than he did with his last two starters. Denver paid Brian Griese huge money, then dumped him. They then invested in Plummer and seem ready to relegate him to the bench for the rest of the season. Oh, yeah, Shanahan still has just one playoff victory since John Elway retired following the 1998 season.

If not Spencer, then certainly our ST coach.

Honestly, maybe he's just not cut out to coach a QB. Maybe they should just go with a specialized offense with a dual-threat RB...like Arkansas. Hot damn...

[atomicbloke]

We should fire Shanny immediately and hire a real coach. Someone who knows what he is doing. Someone like Dennis Green.

[Jens1893]

Shanahan can have the job until he retires and I hope that day doesn´t come any time soon ...

[Bronx33]

We should fire Shanny immediately and hire a real coach. Someone who knows what he is doing. Someone like Dennis Green.




I just threw up in my mouth.

[Hotwheelz]

He is set to sign a new extension and Len Pasquarelli wrote in a column today he didn't understand why. He said that Shanahan couldnt bring along Griese or Plummer to become quarterbacks so why would they want him there to bring along Cutler. I think Shanahan does a great job and its a great idea to try and keep him. I just want to get a gauge on what everyone else thinks here. They also ragged on him for only winning one playoff game since Elway left. So does he deserve to stay for about 6 more years?

The short bus is here.

[Kaylore]

He's just trying to create a story. At least he's doing something different. The rest of the media is bunch of mindless cows.

[Bronco LB 59]

There's already an understanding between Pat Bowlen and Shanahan that Mike is coaching this team as long as he wants. The contract is merely a formality, something for the agents and lawyers to make money on, but Shanahan practically has a lifetime job.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Good question. I mean...if you get beat by Herm Edwards...?

[WABronco]

Pasquarelli is one of the most corrupt reporters around. He's also an idiot. Shanahan is an elite coach, period.

According to his pals at PFT, ol' Len's got a hard-on for Joel Segal clients. Segal gives Len info--Len blows Segal's clients.

Remember when Pinkston got cut from Philly? He called Pinkston "reliable," and said many teams viewed him "as a starter." BWAHAHA

Then he flipped out on some radio show when one of the hosts referred to Pinkston as "Stinkston." He literally hung up on them after a drawn out b****-fight...it was funny stuff.

[houghtam]

I think a lot of people are missing the point here. Shanahn is by no means perfect, and I'm not sure he deserves another extension...yet. He's still under contract for another couple years, after all. But the bigger question is...who is available that you would want to replace him with?

Annswer: no one.

[ludo21]

AS long as Shanny is alive and kicking, i want him as our coach.

What a dumb question, Pasquerelli once again proves he is a douche.

[theAPAOps5]

Shanny deserves the extension plain and simple. Griese killed himself here. Shanny had him playing great. Plummer he was doing great but does not have the skills to adjust to what Defenses are forcing him to play. Shanny deserves an extension for having the foresight to spot that and make a stunning move up to get a QB who has that ability.

If you want to see why you keep a good coach just look at the Raiders. They have run some pretty darn good coaches out of town and they haven't won squat.

Pasqabelly is filthy douche.

[Cito Pelon]

Shanny isn't a god. I could go into detail, but just that the traitor took the head job at Oakland has been enough to piss me off about him for a long time.

[azbroncfan]

Shanny would be number 1 target on HC vacancies in offseason other than OAK.

[Kaylore]

Shanny isn't a god. I could go into detail, but just that the traitor took the head job at Oakland has been enough to piss me off about him for a long time.

And you also called the Portis/Bailey trade as a total mistake! Man, you know your football. :dummy:

[elsid13]

Let see Potbelly has done what in the NFL? He really should shut his mouth and just report the facts.

[DBroncos4life]

Pasquarelli is like 3 burgers away from a heart attack.

[Bronco Bob]

He is set to sign a new extension and Len Pasquarelli wrote in a column today he didn't understand why. He said that Shanahan couldnt bring along Griese or Plummer to become quarterbacks so why would they want him there to bring along Cutler. I think Shanahan does a great job and its a great idea to try and keep him. I just want to get a gauge on what everyone else thinks here. They also ragged on him for only winning one playoff game since Elway left. So does he deserve to stay for about 6 more years?

Who would replace Shanahan if Bowlen didn't? Do we want some rookie
that will take several years to learn his craft or some retread that wasn't
good enough for his last team? Throw out some names. Maybe you can
change my mind.

[WakeUpCall]

He is set to sign a new extension and Len Pasquarelli wrote in a column today he didn't understand why. He said that Shanahan couldnt bring along Griese or Plummer to become quarterbacks so why would they want him there to bring along Cutler. I think Shanahan does a great job and its a great idea to try and keep him. I just want to get a gauge on what everyone else thinks here. They also ragged on him for only winning one playoff game since Elway left. So does he deserve to stay for about 6 more years?

With one eye that's flat-out broke, and the other not working well, I'm pretty sure you folks could put just about anything you'd want in that contract, and Scamafan would sign it....

[theAPAOps5]

Yeah we should get rid of Shanny and promote Coyer :angel:

[theAPAOps5]

With one eye that's flat-out broke, and the other not working well, I'm pretty sure you folks could put just about anything you'd want in that contract, and Scamafan would sign it....
How many coaches have the Chiefs been through since Shanny started coaching here? And how many playoff games has the chiefs won since Shanny started. How many Superbowls have the Chiefs won since Shanny started coaching.

Yeah run a long and STFU.

[thebroncosnation]

hellz yeah

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Pasquarelli is like 3 burgers away from a heart attack.

3? He's living on borrowed time already.

and this is pretty dumb for Fatass to even talk about at this point since Shanny's signed through '08.

[azbroncfan]

Pasquarelli is like 3 burgers away from a heart attack.

Or bob.

[HEAV]

OK I'll play the devil of the board.

I say Shanny has too much power and his ego is what's holding this franchise back.

I'd make him earn that extension. One playoff win since Elway isn't the sign of an elite coach.

As an owner I would want to see more for the money put into the team.

I've' said it before, it's not 97-98. Show me something coach/GM.

[ro_50]

I would love to see what "Gray Hoody-wearing" Bill Bellichek can do without Tom Brady.

Jimmy Johnson couldn't win without Troy and the Boys consistently and it took awhile before Holmgren started to win in Seattle after many successful years with Brett Favre in Green Bay.

Great quarterbacks make good coaches Great. That's not a secret.

But year in and year out, Shanahan has had this team in the playoffs and while they haven't advanced to the Super Bowl in the post-Elway years, given the other coaches I rattled off, Shanahan has gone a great or better job than the aforementioned.

Of course, Bellichek wasn't a great coach at Cleveland.

So that argument is mute to me. Shanahan gave Griese his best years, what has he done since. Plummer's career was resurrected to a point here in Denver.

He was garbage in Arizona.

Shanahan is a great quarterback tutor and one of the game's greatest coaches EVER.

[Hotwheelz]

Shanny isn't a god. I could go into detail, but just that the traitor took the head job at Oakland has been enough to piss me off about him for a long time.

Congratulations on your extra chromosome!

[HEAV]

Even greats/legends get fired. Landry,Knoll, Shula.

[SlipperyPete]

Let's see. Just this year alone, Shanahan...

1) turned our already-shaky starting QB into a lame duck on the day of the draft.

2) did absolutely nothing to improve the pass rush, which has been dreadful for what seems like a century now.

3) let his arrogance with the running game blind him to the fact that nobody on Earth is worried about who we have back there anymore.

4) as confirmed by Jay Glazer at Fox, leaked the "Cutler will start at Seattle" story, making Plummer DOA right before a big game that could have helped us lock up a wildcard spot if we'd won.

5) put all his eggs in the basket of a rookie, who will get thrown into the fire in the middle of a playoff race.

6) could be risking the development of said rookie, if he struggles under the pressure and his confidence gets shaken.

Wow. Quite a list there. If we fall out of the wildcard picture, I would be hard pressed to find a coach anywhere in the league who's done a worse job this year than Shanahan has.

[Crushaholic]

Shanahan definitely deserves a contract extension. He has more wins in franchise history than anyone...

[Willynowei]

He is set to sign a new extension and Len Pasquarelli wrote in a column today he didn't understand why. He said that Shanahan couldnt bring along Griese or Plummer to become quarterbacks so why would they want him there to bring along Cutler. I think Shanahan does a great job and its a great idea to try and keep him. I just want to get a gauge on what everyone else thinks here. They also ragged on him for only winning one playoff game since Elway left. So does he deserve to stay for about 6 more years?

Well, maybe Len forgot about Montana, Young and Elway. And maybe he forgot what Jakes record was in Arizona, and how Greaseball has faired outside of Denver...

[Kaylore]

Let's see. Just this year alone, Shanahan...

1) turned our already-shaky starting QB into a lame duck on the day of the draft.
LOL Um, he won a super bowl when Steve Young and Joe Montana were on the same team. It's not Shanahan's fault that Jake can't handle the pressure. Drew Brees became a pro-bowler after the Chargers drafted Rivers. Poor Chargers never recovered from that did they? It's not Shanahan's fault that Jake decided to become a horrible QB. Pressure is part of the NFL and every player should expect that from new talent and be able to rise above it.

Let's not forget he also went out and brought in probably the most talented receiver we've had in Denver since Rick Upchurch. What a terrible thing for Shanahan to do to Plummer.
2) did absolutely nothing to improve the pass rush, which has been dreadful for what seems like a century now.
We have more sacks from our front four this year with less blitzing than we have had all year and they are coming from his two offseason moves in that department: Dumervil and Lang.

3) let his arrogance with the running game blind him to the fact that nobody on Earth is worried about who we have back there anymore.
Revisionist history is fun, isn't it? Let's review what actually happened. Shanahan tried to trade back into the first round to land Maroney but no one would let him. He tried to sign Jamal Lewis but the Ravens re-signed him. He made several moves in the offseason to try and get help but couldn't pull it off. If you want to fault him for not bringing in enough good people, then that's your thing, but to suggest he didn't try and just arrogantly assumed what he had was enough is total BS.

4) as confirmed by Jay Glazer at Fox, leaked the "Cutler will start at Seattle" story, making Plummer DOA right before a big game that could have helped us lock up a wildcard spot if we'd won.
Plummer was all world before that comment. Too bad that made a stellar season go downhill. Oh wait. He's played like garbage all year. Try again.

5) put all his eggs in the basket of a rookie, who will get thrown into the fire in the middle of a playoff race.
I guess that's true since he'll probably ask Javon, Rod, Al Wilson, Bailey, Lynch, Elam, Gold, DJ, Nalen, et al. to just stop playing because all our eggs are in one basket and we'll just let Jay Cutler play with the scout team the rest of the season.

6) could be risking the development of said rookie, if he struggles under the pressure and his confidence gets shaken.
Again, we see this faulty and horribly baseless argument that a QB who starts early will fail, when evidence shows that every QB that has amounted to anything, with the exception of Romo, Palmer and Steve Young, have done so starting right out of the shoot.

Wow. Quite a list there.
Yes it was; A list of total crap.

[HEAV]

Shanahan definitely deserves a contract extension. He has more wins in franchise history than anyone...


Like Miss Jackson said "What Have You Done For Me Lately?"

[HEAV]

[QUOTE=SlipperyPete;1372449]Let's see. Just this year alone, Shanahan...

1) turned our already-shaky starting QB into a lame duck on the day of the draft.
QUOTE]


I have to admit, that I also felt the same way when the pick went down. This team was in the AFC title game and if not for Shanny's poor blocking scheme (which he figured out was wrong the second time verse Pitt) that Denver could have won.

Drafting Jay sent a message to me that Shanny felt this team was lucky to be in the AFC title game.

I wanted a RB or a DE.

Just felt wrong and still does today.

[SureShot]

[QUOTE=SlipperyPete;1372449]Let's see. Just this year alone, Shanahan...

1) turned our already-shaky starting QB into a lame duck on the day of the draft.
QUOTE]


I have to admit, that I also felt the same way when the pick went down. This team was in the AFC title game and if not for Shanny's poor blocking scheme (which he figured out was wrong the second time verse Pitt) that Denver could have won.

Drafting Jay sent a message to me that Shanny felt this team was lucky to be in the AFC title game.

I wanted a RB or a DE.

Just felt wrong and still does today.



"Its about trust":rofl: :rofl:

[Dagmar]

www.fireshanahan.com

[HEAV]

Revisionist history is fun, isn't it? Let's review what actually happened. Shanahan tried to trade back into the first round to land Maroney but no one would let him. He tried to sign Jamal Williams but the Ravens re-signed him. He made several moves in the offseason to try and get help but couldn't pull it off. If you want to fault him for not bringing in enough good people, then that's your thing, but to suggest he didn't try and just arrogantly assumed what he had was enough is total BS.


You ment Jamal Lewis. Or you combine the chase for Ricky Williams and Jamal Lewis together. Or your still suffering from the Charger game and Jamal Williams slapping Jake around......

But Shanny tried to make moves. It was just, Ricky went back to smoke, Jamal Lewis took less money to stay in B-More (go figure that one out), the draft well he did waste a 2nd rounder on Sheffler, when Jerious Norwood and Leon Washington where still on the board.

But Shanny does have an ego with the RB postion. He never liked Clinton Portis (even thought he was a dynamic player in the system) He felt Reuben was a product of the system, felt Anderson was over the hill (which he may have been). Then the summer jumble with the Bells and cutting the Dayne.

Now his love for Nash.

Who's to say what could have happened. But What if Shanny paid for Edge? There's a dream for any Broncos/Cane fan.

[HEAV]

[QUOTE=SureShot7;1372479][QUOTE=HEAV;1372475]



"Its about trust":rofl: :rofl:[/QUOTE

That's my point. I don't feel that either one, Jake and Shanny, trusted each other. Which has lead the time to the point it's at now.

[Dagmar]

[QUOTE=SureShot7;1372479][QUOTE=HEAV;1372475]



"Its about trust":rofl: :rofl:[/QUOTE

That's my point. I don't feel that either one, Jake and Shanny, trusted each other. Which has lead the time to the point it's at now.

Time to change the avatar bro!

[penguintheory]

4) as confirmed by Jay Glazer at Fox, leaked the "Cutler will start at Seattle" story, making Plummer DOA right before a big game that could have helped us lock up a wildcard spot if we'd won.

We've missed you, orange 4 life.

[DeusExManning]

Give him a lifetime contract with a guarantee to be the highest paid coach in the league by 1$ at all times.

[TomServo]

im one who subscribes to the 10 year burnout theory-the refs handing cower a lombardi doesnt skew that theory one bit for me-but after that, one has to ask the question? if not shanahan? then who? no other current nfl coach on the chopping block is even close. so some college coach?
jimmy johnson lucked into a situation where another team gave them a whole free draft to build off of at the same time the refs decided to let offensive pass interference be a non foul (coke freak michael irvin)
shanny has ego problems to be sure but any current alternative doesnt measure up.

[watermock]

Then, he takes a maligned, erratic Jake Plummer and compiles mind-boggling stats over a 3.5 year period, winning at a .750 clip.


Mind boggling is right. 29th in the league with a pick called back last week?

[Arkansas Bronco]

Lifetime contract.

[ol number 7]

We should fire Shanny immediately and hire a real coach. Someone who knows what he is doing. Someone like Dennis Green.


Better yet Art Shell just to piss off Al

[atomicbloke]

if not shanahan? then who? no other current nfl coach on the chopping block is even close. so some college coach?


If it ever came to that, I would lean towards the following:

Jeff Fisher.
Steve Mariucci
Urban Meyer (our offense with rocketman would score 50 points a game)

[bloodsunday]

stupidest thread ever, seriously. The guy is not only classy, but he is without a doubt the best coach in the NFL right now, IMO. And even if you don't agree with that, he is at worst top 5.

Who would you rather have: Marty? Herm?

Get real folks.

[elsid13]

If it ever came to that, I would lean towards the following:

Jeff Fisher.
Steve Mariucci
Urban Meyer (our offense with rocketman would score 50 points a game)

Fisher - isn't going anywhere
Mariucci- hasn't won anything. Wouldn't be surprised that he ends up in college
Meyer - gimmick offense wouldn't work in the pros

The only coach that might be good fit would be Chucky from TB.

[defenseman]

Fisher - isn't going anywhere
Mariucci- hasn't won anything. Wouldn't be surprised that he ends up in college
Meyer - gimmick offense wouldn't work in the pros

The only coach that might be good fit would be Chucky from TB.

Maybe shanny will make it easy for us all and retire. Chucky from TB wouldn't surprise me in the least. And, you are correct, good fit in denver.....dman

[Circle Orange]

I'm going against the flow here, and say that Shanahan may be burned out in Denver. Being comfortable with a franchise (aka high paid fixture) does not guarantee endless success or succession. The only reason this hasn't come up before is because of the past, which is looking grainier every year. Sure, the team is competitive. But at some point where's the 'breakthrough'? Unless its okay to be 'competitive' and bow out early in the playoffs every (other) year. People rag Jake for having deceiving statistics. Well, since the last Super Bowl Shanahan has deceiving statistics. And before anyone hollers "WELL WHO ELSE YA GONNA GET" just remember Shanahan wasn't exactly a household name when HE started. It isn't about keeping Shanahan because you're used to his face. It's about moving the franchise forward. http://scosoft.com/s/g/d1cfc8e.gif

[atomicbloke]

Fisher - isn't going anywhere

Everyone knows Fisher's time in Nashville could be up.

The only coach that might be good fit would be Chucky from TB.

I agree with this.

[bloodsunday]

I'm going against the flow here, and say that Shanahan may be burned out in Denver. Being comfortable with a franchise (aka high paid fixture) does not guarantee endless success or succession. The only reason this hasn't come up before is because of the past, which is looking grainier every year. Sure, the team is competitive. But at some point where's the 'breakthrough'? Unless its okay to be 'competitive' and bow out early in the playoffs every (other) year. People rag Jake for having deceiving statistics. Well, since the last Super Bowl Shanahan has deceiving statistics. And before anyone hollers "WELL WHO ELSE YA GONNA GET" just remember Shanahan wasn't exactly a household name when HE started. It isn't about keeping Shanahan because you're used to his face. It's about moving the franchise forward. http://scosoft.com/s/g/d1cfc8e.gif

Really? So being 1 win away from the Super Bowl last year wasn't progress? Pat Bowlen is the best owner in the game IMO. He absolutely believes that Shanahan is the best coach in the business and that's good enough for me. Watching Shanahan go and turn around some other dog-butt franchise would kill me -- and make no mistake about 25 jobs in the NFL would be his if he wanted them the minute he hit the market.

[bloodsunday]

Mariucci- hasn't won anything. Wouldn't be surprised that he ends up in college.
The job he did in San Fran was amazing. They were supposed to be rebuilding and he make them 12 - 4. Jeff Garcia looked like Montana under him. He's had his share of struggles, but all coaches go through them, which leads me to....

The only coach that might be good fit would be Chucky from TB.
He's had a great run as of recent in TB hasn't he? He is an 'offensive' and has been forced to live on the legacy of someone else's defense. He's had more than enough time to rebuild them and they have made no progress.

Just saying... chemistry in the NFL is a funny thing. Look at Romo in Dallas. Sometimes it just comes out of nowhere. This team had good chemistry last year and everyone thought Shanny was a genious. We're having some tough times this year and everyone wants to jump ship.

[Rohirrim]

Every once in a while, Pastapig takes his focus off of his beloved Eastern seaboard and sniffs around out West, usually by simply reading something somebody else wrote. Then, he writes another crap piece, cashes the check, and goes out to stuff another Philly cheesesteak in that swollen belly of his. On the sports journalism scale, his takes are generally rated somewhere below "Worthless." Before Pastapig wrote this crap, perhaps he should have looked around the league and counted up how many teams there are without champion caliber QBs? Of course, this would have required that he take his shoes off. Take a minute and try to imagine how Shanahan would do if his QB was Tom Brady. Mike has squeezed more out of Griese and Jake than any other coach in the NFL possibly could have. Pastapig may not appreciate Shanahan, but ask yourself how many other coaches in the NFL have that opinion of Mike?

[Popps]

The job he did in San Fran was amazing. They were supposed to be rebuilding and he make them 12 - 4. Jeff Garcia looked like Montana under him. He's had his share of struggles, but all coaches go through them, which leads me to....


He's had a great run as of recent in TB hasn't he? He is an 'offensive' and has been forced to live on the legacy of someone else's defense. He's had more than enough time to rebuild them and they have made no progress.

Just saying... chemistry in the NFL is a funny thing. Look at Romo in Dallas. Sometimes it just comes out of nowhere. This team had good chemistry last year and everyone thought Shanny was a genious. We're having some tough times this year and everyone wants to jump ship.


Not me, bro. I'm too much of a homer to write off this season. We're 7-4 and I honestly think we'll still make a nice playoff push with Cutler. Who knows how it'll turn out, but it's going to be fun to root for the kid.

As for Shanahan, Blove mentioned in a recent post (I wish I had a link) that the broncos were in the top 8 (I think it was) in wins for three decades (80s/90s/00s) in a row. That's freakishly good, and Shanahan deserves credit for at least of that. I don't think he's without fault, but I know I wouldn't want anyone else coaching this team.

[Que]

Yes. No doubt about it.

[Dudeskey]

**** Pasquerelli... Any extension Bowlen offers Shanny deserves it... I can't believe this **** is coming up again

[JoRo]

He is set to sign a new extension and Len Pasquarelli wrote in a column today he didn't understand why. He said that Shanahan couldnt bring along Griese or Plummer to become quarterbacks so why would they want him there to bring along Cutler. I think Shanahan does a great job and its a great idea to try and keep him. I just want to get a gauge on what everyone else thinks here. They also ragged on him for only winning one playoff game since Elway left. So does he deserve to stay for about 6 more years?

I think so look at how competitive he keeps us every year. WE may not always have the most talented teams, but Shanny keeps us in contention.. honestly I think we are very lucky to have him an if he left he would be snatched up in a heartbeat

[JoRo]

I'm going against the flow here, and say that Shanahan may be burned out in Denver. Being comfortable with a franchise (aka high paid fixture) does not guarantee endless success or succession. The only reason this hasn't come up before is because of the past, which is looking grainier every year. Sure, the team is competitive. But at some point where's the 'breakthrough'? Unless its okay to be 'competitive' and bow out early in the playoffs every (other) year. People rag Jake for having deceiving statistics. Well, since the last Super Bowl Shanahan has deceiving statistics. And before anyone hollers "WELL WHO ELSE YA GONNA GET" just remember Shanahan wasn't exactly a household name when HE started. It isn't about keeping Shanahan because you're used to his face. It's about moving the franchise forward. http://scosoft.com/s/g/d1cfc8e.gif

Ok, go look at pitsburgh sure dint help them at all to keep pushin through good seasons and bad, and we overall have had a better run wit Shanny than they have had wit Cowher and how did he reward them las year? won a what?

[watermock]

Shanahan has stated he will coach for at least another decade. Bowlen has publicly given him a lifetime contract.

Shanahan will resign long before he would be fired.

I found it interesting he committed for another decade after drafting Cutler. If Jake doesn't give him a stroke first.

[Circle Orange]

Really? So being 1 win away from the Super Bowl last year wasn't progress? Pat Bowlen is the best owner in the game IMO. He absolutely believes that Shanahan is the best coach in the business and that's good enough for me. Watching Shanahan go and turn around some other dog-butt franchise would kill me -- and make no mistake about 25 jobs in the NFL would be his if he wanted them the minute he hit the market.



I didn't say anything about Bowlen...but after last years run, did you honestly think this looked like a team that would return to the title game? It was a strange tournament...the Steelers were 7-5 at one point and floundering, found their feet and wiggled through the playoffs and into the bowl. There was no 'dominant home team' that usually grinds up the opposition. Now the steelers are proving last year was a fluke. Maybe a few more years of 'one and done' in the playoffs is enough. The last superbowl was 8 freaking years ago. That being said, I think Fisher would be a perfect fit, since he is defensive minded. The broncs could draft for a d line, strengthen that side of the ball and make Cutler's transition easier (ala Romo bubblehead in Dallas).

[Dudeskey]

www.fireshanahan.com

**** outa here with that ****

[HEAV]

I look at the Chicago Bulls of the late 80's. They were a talented group (yes they had MJ the best ever),but they struggled getting over the top.

Doug Collins was the coach and had a very successfull coaching record with the Bulls and MJ, but he just couldn't raise the team to that next level.

That's when managment let Collins go and promoted Phil Jackson. 6 rings later........


Now I understand we haven't an MJ and QB, maybe at corner, but it may be time for a fresh face and fresh idea's toward player personel and philosophy on offense?


Maybe to go forward the Franchis needs to take a step back?

[jayman_37]

I just wanted to get an idea on what everyone here thought after reading what Pasquarelli wrote. I love shanahan and think he has done a great job so dont drag me over the coals for bringing this up.

[BRNCOS1]

Hi everyone,

I still remember how great it was to hear we were hiring Shanahan. I hadn't been that excited about the Broncos since they acquired Elway. I think he's done a great job in the past, and still is the best man for the job.

I agree with Bowlen, the job is his till he doesn't want it anymore.

Long Live The Mastermind!

[Ray Finkle]

If it was that easy to find a good young head coach, every team would have one. For every Parcells and Gibbs (back in the day) there are 10 Coslets and Carols....

Replacing Shahan would be a big mistake......

[TexanBob]

Umm, who is exactly out there that would be an upgrade over Shanahan? And how many former Broncos have gone on to greatness after leaving Denver?

Shanahan has done the best he can and done it for a long time. The next test is if he can prove he can build a dynamic offense again without Kubiak around. Early results are not promising but let's see how he can do without Jake the Mistake running the show.

[BroncoFiend]

The great thing is that Bowlen knows what he has in Shanny, so who cares what Lenny or anyone else says, Shanny is here until he retires.

[AFCWestFan]

Im always amazed at the loyal following Shanahan has with so little to support it!

By season end I predict that the Let Mike Go banwagon will begin to fill up.

If Seattle even tries, they will beat Denver. That will be 3 ina row...and the Chargers looming on the horizon and You all still have to go to Oakland. Oaklands bad but getting better at same time the run has run away from Denver, your recievers are a bit of an attitude/age problem, and Shanny has to fix this QB issue...with NO RUN GAME!!

If they give him an extension he should be jailed for theft or the ownership checked into a home....this is not a good situation for Mike if he cannot turn it around ad do it rapidly. For the fan its too bad. Its so difficult to end a relationship, owners often drag it out a year or two too long and by then the damage inflicted will take a LOT of money and TIME to repair.

Plummer is not the only issue Mike faces. He lost a LOT when he lost Kubiac. Mike is not in step with play calling ...its a different game than he had when he was with the 49ers. And Cutler is no Steve Young...and look around...do you have a Jerry Rice?

Blame the new OC? I dont think so. And the run Defense? Oh, sorry, Denver doesnt have one. Mike will blame the Defensive Coord...

Bottom line is the seeds of discontent with Shanahan have been planted...and will sooon emerge in full flower. The Emporer has no clothes.

[DBroncos4life]

Im always amazed at the loyal following Shanahan has with so little to support it!

By season end I predict that the Let Mike Go banwagon will begin to fill up.

If Seattle even tries, they will beat Denver. That will be 3 ina row...and the Chargers looming on the horizon and You all still have to go to Oakland. Oaklands bad but getting better at same time the run has run away from Denver, your recievers are a bit of an attitude/age problem, and Shanny has to fix this QB issue...with NO RUN GAME!!

If they give him an extension he should be jailed for theft or the ownership checked into a home....this is not a good situation for Mike if he cannot turn it around ad do it rapidly. For the fan its too bad. Its so difficult to end a relationship, owners often drag it out a year or two too long and by then the damage inflicted will take a LOT of money and TIME to repair.

Plummer is not the only issue Mike faces. He lost a LOT when he lost Kubiac. Mike is not in step with play calling ...its a different game than he had when he was with the 49ers. And Cutler is no Steve Young...and look around...do you have a Jerry Rice?

Blame the new OC? I dont think so. And the run Defense? Oh, sorry, Denver doesnt have one. Mike will blame the Defensive Coord...

Bottom line is the seeds of discontent with Shanahan have been planted...and will sooon emerge in full flower. The Emporer has no clothes.

I got one word for this post.....Gay

[Jason in LA]

I haven't read a single post in this thread, but I'll go ahead and say that they should extend him for life.

[Bronx33]

I haven't read a single post in this thread, but I'll go ahead and say that they should extend him for life.




And some would say we are blind shanahan homers fact is it's the exact opposite reasoning, other teams would kill to have a coach of mikes caliber and consistancy and bowlen knows this.

[CoBear23]

He is set to sign a new extension and Len Pasquarelli wrote in a column today he didn't understand why. He said that Shanahan couldnt bring along Griese or Plummer to become quarterbacks so why would they want him there to bring along Cutler. I think Shanahan does a great job and its a great idea to try and keep him. I just want to get a gauge on what everyone else thinks here. They also ragged on him for only winning one playoff game since Elway left. So does he deserve to stay for about 6 more years?


It is only because of Shanahan that we have had the success we've enoyed since SB XXXIII. The man knows football, knows how to win, can adjust to an ever changing NFL, oh yeah he's also lead the Broncos to more wins as their head coach than any team in the NFL in that time span. Mike is on pace to be one of the all-time great NFL coaches and can and should be the Broncos coach for as long as he wants.

[AFCWestFan]

He will be much like Marty...Today, Marty can clock in on like his 200th win...

Shanahan and Marty are coaches who cant get to the top rung. If you like the Today Broncos, then you stay with the today coach.

[Bronx33]

He will be much like Marty...Today, Marty can clock in on like his 200th win...

Shanahan and Marty are coaches who cant get to the top rung. If you like the Today Broncos, then you stay with the today coach.



Huh? mike has been to the top rung, marty keeps slipping on it and busting his chin over and over. Mike owns martys skinny a** heck the broncos franchise owns martys a**. Marty and Mike shouldn't be used to the same sentence as far as coaching is concerned.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

He will be much like Marty...Today, Marty can clock in on like his 200th win...

Shanahan and Marty are coaches who cant get to the top rung. If you like the Today Broncos, then you stay with the today coach.

This must be the only time that 2 Super Bowl wins ='s O Super Bowl wins

[AFCWestFan]

Elway took Shanny to SB. Please respect that he was the reasoin Denver got there not Shanahan

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Elway took Shanny to SB. Please respect that he was the reasoin Denver got there not Shanahan

Funny, I seem to recall Shanahan building most of that team, including TD and in '98, Elway missed 4 games and they didn't lose a beat.

[Bronx33]

Elway took Shanny to SB. Please respect that he was the reasoin Denver got there not Shanahan


LMAO! ummmmmmmmmm maybe it was the combination? or maybe mikes running schemes??? nawww it couldn't be that. :welcome:

[Merlin]

Elway took Shanny to SB. Please respect that he was the reasoin Denver got there not Shanahan
Yeah, because Elway did so well in the prior SBs. Have a look at the stats for Denver's 1st SB win, in which they were 14 pts underdogs. Yup, it was all Elway and it had nothing to do with Shanny's strategy. Next time, just keep your mouth $hut unless you want to remove all doubt.

[BRNCOS1]

He will be much like Marty...Today, Marty can clock in on like his 200th win...

Shanahan and Marty are coaches who cant get to the top rung. If you like the Today Broncos, then you stay with the today coach.

Like the other guy said.-GAY!
Stupid comes to mind as well.

[Circle Orange]

Funny, I seem to recall Shanahan building most of that team, including TD and in '98, Elway missed 4 games and they didn't lose a beat.

against four of the worst teams in the nfl at the time including (unfortunately) my Redskins. Besides, the team knew John was coming back. Different story after the super bowl when they went 0-4 before TD got hurt. The arrogance about threepeating died hard.

[AFCWestFan]

Take ths idea a step further....I know Mike is currently man of the year and untouchable...BUT...IF Broncos tank in Seattle you have gone 0-3 for first time in like forever....SO...the question is...

At what point do you realistically start to consider new coaching options...

[bendog]

to the butt, please.

[dbfan21]

Yea, what did Shanahan do with Griese besides take a dumpy, moderately skilled QB and make a Pro Bowl talent out of him? I mean, Griese has gone on to so much success without Shanahan, right?

Then, he takes a maligned, erratic Jake Plummer and compiles mind-boggling stats over a 3.5 year period, winning at a .750 clip.

Then, there's that matter of winning Superbowls with Elway (something Reeves couldn't do) and calling one of the most dominant offenses in history with Steve Young in SF.

Yea, no good reason to think Shanahan would have any success with a blue chip talent like Cutler.

EXACTLY! Nice post, Popps!