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eddie mac
11-20-2006, 09:13 PM
Absolutely woeful and IMO a major reason why we gave up that lead against SD last night.

Ernster's initial solid punting and kick-offs have dropped in production like a lead balloon now a 41.4 Gross avg 3rd worst in the league. His punts are far too short and have terrible hang-time. How many fair catches do opposition punt returners have against the Broncos???

Flip the coin and ask yourself how many times have we been able to return punt???

It's not like Ernster isn't getting enough practice. It's not just Paul either. I've lost count how many returners we've been through already this season plus the special teams tackling or lack of it is a killer.

We've the 2nd worst KR average in the NFL 18.7 yds pr and are in the bottom half in PR's.

We've given up the 2nd most KR average in the NFL at 26.5 yds pr.

Something has to be done about this unit and fast or Bradford and McGaughey should be looking for new jobs.

Hercules Rockefeller
11-20-2006, 09:21 PM
Same old, same old

Garcia Bronco
11-20-2006, 09:24 PM
The NFL has allowed kickers to rub down the balls again..or in essense to choose their own balls...tounchbacks...touchbacks...all I see are touchbacks

Liebs
11-20-2006, 09:29 PM
this season? when is the last time we had a good special teams.

we need sour-burn back

eddie mac
11-20-2006, 09:32 PM
Same old, same old

Your right in the KR department but in punting we've dropped from 7th to 30th in one season. Shows you the difference in talent between Todd and Ernster.

eddie mac
11-20-2006, 09:34 PM
this season? when is the last time we had a good special teams.

we need sour-burn back

Get your point but I'm sure this is one area where the team wanted to improve. They've actually became worse if that's humanly possible. Ernster couldn't even hit the endzone last night and he's supposed to be a kick-off specialist ffs.

RunSilentRunDeep
11-20-2006, 09:38 PM
Agreed, Shanahan needs to pony up and land an elite special teams coach in the offseason. Bradford is in over his head.

Billy Clyde Puckett
11-20-2006, 10:29 PM
Shanahan put all of his ragging on the ST in post game comments. Not Jake, Not Defense.

want2bAbronco2
11-21-2006, 12:15 AM
can you blame him? every single time we kicked off they ran back to the 45yd line....ffs the chargers had a short field all night! tackling was horrible, k/p was horrible....pls bring back todd!

SoCalBronco
11-21-2006, 12:24 AM
When are we going to get a real ST coach, not a former Bronco player that we want to give a job to, or some scrub Coach that we move into the position, so we just throw them on the ST. This has happened repeatedly. Bradford...Frank Bush, Anthony Lynn (i think he was just assistant special teams coach IIRC) etc. It's getting old. We need a real special teams guru.

Broncos4Life
11-21-2006, 12:32 AM
Agreed, Shanahan needs to pony up and land an elite special teams coach in the offseason. Bradford is in over his head.

What I don't understand is why Bradford has been the ST coach for the past few years. This guy is a joke.

dbfan4life
11-21-2006, 10:07 AM
Ernster did just enough to win the job and has sucked since. Bring back Tood, I know he's on speed dial.

fontaine
11-21-2006, 10:12 AM
When are we going to get a real ST coach, not a former Bronco player that we want to give a job to, or some scrub Coach that we move into the position, so we just throw them on the ST. This has happened repeatedly. Bradford...Frank Bush, Anthony Lynn (i think he was just assistant special teams coach IIRC) etc. It's getting old. We need a real special teams guru.

I think we should hire Dick Vermeil as ST consultant so we get twice the fun.

Once when our ST kicks azz, twice when he starts to cry when it doesn't.

Broncoman13
11-21-2006, 10:17 AM
I was one of the few around here that voted to keep Sourbunz AND Ernster.

watermock
11-21-2006, 10:24 AM
We should steal the X factor from the Chorfs...or is he sealed up?

Ernster was great early, sucking now. My boy Cecil at least could advance the ball on kickoffs. We need to re-sign him...but he's not a real home run threat after putting on some pounds for FB.

I just shook my hands in the air and hurt my elbow again...I hurt it many moons ago pitching too much.

It's frustrating to see all the question marks come back No, No, No and No again.

No QB...No consistent RB...No pass rush...insert here...Safety play has dropped off. Lynch is now done. He wasn't even close to Tomlinson.

We should bid for Archuletta.

watermock
11-21-2006, 10:30 AM
I'm begining to think the team peaked last year. Uggg.

The D appears worn down at this point, not advancing whatsoever. I don't know the answer when we won't have a ton of money after giving Javon his bonus. I have no clue why we are so tight on the cap. Maybe Champ will move some money back for us. Jake goes, maybe Nalen and Lepsis take cuts.

I was pissed after Indy...now I'm just depressed. We lose thrusday and put me on suicide watch.

watermock
11-21-2006, 10:31 AM
When are we going to get a real ST coach, not a former Bronco player that we want to give a job to, or some scrub Coach that we move into the position, so we just throw them on the ST. This has happened repeatedly. Bradford...Frank Bush, Anthony Lynn (i think he was just assistant special teams coach IIRC) etc. It's getting old. We need a real special teams guru.

We need to hire some penguins. Get a little cross checkin'

Bob's your Information Minister
11-21-2006, 12:11 PM
A few short kickoffs and punts at Arrowhead this week would be just the recipe for Dainty Hall to get better. He's been average this year.

Barry Ramey
11-21-2006, 12:24 PM
The thing about Ernster is I thought he was a better kicker prospect than punter since he was a placekicker in college for 4 years and a very good one and only punted his senior year, which he did well there too.

OrangeShadow
11-21-2006, 01:34 PM
we need to bring todd back