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crazyhorse
11-20-2006, 07:41 AM
I have a feeling I know why.

It's because if they did the 1st question would be, why do they play to blow out the knees of the opponent?

Watching the Broncos linemen target the knees the way they do is just painful to watch.

I know it's all part of the NFL and every team does it to some degree. But if you cant practice it against your own players in practice because you are afraid of hurting your own players, then you are fully aware of the risk you're taking with the carreers of other players.

To make it a staple of your run game means you choose to put the carreers of your opponent on the line for a 5 yard gain.

Trying to blow out someones knee on a spike play at the end of last nights game is just ridiculous. If I was Olshanski and was ejected from the game, I would have turned around and finished the ass kicking he started.

The fact that he's is willing to do it in prime time shows the football fans what all the players in the league already know. As far as Denver is concerned, there is no price to great for 5 yards of field position. What an embarassment to the rest of the players that don't have to play that way to compete.

No wonder they run from the media.

clarkster
11-20-2006, 07:46 AM
im fairly certain one has nothing to do withg the other. it goes back to the gibbs days.

OrangeShadow
11-20-2006, 07:49 AM
We arent the only team that cut block,to deny that is just foolish. Im not sure what nalen was thinking there but he hardly moved the guy at all. I wouldnt call that trying to "blow out a guys knee" thats just bogus.
So it sounds like you are ok with olshankys actions, are you ok with braytons? how about albert haynesworths? bottom line is we arent the only team that cut blocks,its a part of football and if you cant deal with it get out of the god damn league and quit watching.
The league is quickly becoming a league of pansises, you cant lay a hand on a wide receiver you cant touch a quarterback its getting ridiculous.

crazyhorse
11-20-2006, 08:02 AM
We arent the only team that cut block,to deny that is just foolish. Im not sure what nalen was thinking there but he hardly moved the guy at all. I wouldnt call that trying to "blow out a guys knee" thats just bogus.
So it sounds like you are ok with olshankys actions, are you ok with braytons? how about albert haynesworths? bottom line is we arent the only team that cut blocks,its a part of football and if you cant deal with it get out of the god damn league and quit watching.
The league is quickly becoming a league of pansises, you cant lay a hand on a wide receiver you cant touch a quarterback its getting ridiculous.

I know the rest of the league does it. But it's the basis of the entire Donk offense. However, because the league does nothing about it other teams are now employing it as the basis from which they build thier offense.

I don't think the pansies are those who get thier knees blown out. I think the pansies are those that have to play that way to compete. That goes for the Chiefs when they do it as well. I just don't agree with it. I think it's a complete disreguard for the health of the player. As you stated, they try to protect the QB. But they refuse to protect linemen.

You saying the there are others who do it, is hardly a defense. Instead, it only reinforces what I am saying.

atomicbloke
11-20-2006, 08:34 AM
Every play someone risks his career. Should lineman stop hitting the Rb because it might end his career. Should QB sacks be disallowed because it might end his career.

Football is a violent contact sport.

If someone doesn't like the violence, they should play ping pong instead.

OrangeShadow
11-20-2006, 08:58 AM
I know the rest of the league does it. But it's the basis of the entire Donk offense. However, because the league does nothing about it other teams are now employing it as the basis from which they build thier offense.

I don't think the pansies are those who get thier knees blown out. I think the pansies are those that have to play that way to compete. That goes for the Chiefs when they do it as well. I just don't agree with it. I think it's a complete disreguard for the health of the player. As you stated, they try to protect the QB. But they refuse to protect linemen.

You saying the there are others who do it, is hardly a defense. Instead, it only reinforces what I am saying.

Its football,everyplay has the potential to be game or career ending. If a player is hit in the right place or lands on the right part of his body he can be paralyzed,does that mean we should put extreme limits on tackling? Besides tony williams what other offensive lineman have had their seasons ended via cutblocks from the broncos?(id actually really like to know this)

watermock
11-20-2006, 09:08 AM
We are a surly mob this morning Crazy...go celebrate you're ugly win against Oakland. You're going to find an angry team at your doorstep Thursday.

I didn't see a Bronco being ejected from the game...but I do think it wasn't a very clean block, mainly because it didn't have that much to do with the play. How we are even Bi-Pod is inherently dangerous for the knees. They simply aren't designed for it. Blame the Caveman from Geico for that. If we hand hind legs like Jack Wabbits we wouldn't have these knee issues. Of course, there wouldn't be a passing game either. Ha!

crazyhorse
11-20-2006, 09:09 AM
Every play someone risks his career. Should lineman stop hitting the Rb because it might end his career. Should QB sacks be disallowed because it might end his career.

Football is a violent contact sport.

If someone doesn't like the violence, they should play ping pong instead.


I say anything you are afraid/refuse to practice against your own team should be a clear sign that you are taking it too far.

OrangeShadow
11-20-2006, 09:22 AM
I honestly think part of the reason people dont like it is because its so successful. People more often than not dont know how to stop the cut block/zone blocking scheme. Its perfectly legal in the rules of the league and other than tony williams i havent heard any other defensive player having their seasons or careers ended by denver cutblocking. Why is it in this culture we want to see people succeed but when they do we want to knock them down so quickly?

crazyhorse
11-20-2006, 10:03 AM
I honestly think part of the reason people dont like it is because its so successful. People more often than not dont know how to stop the cut block/zone blocking scheme. Its perfectly legal in the rules of the league and other than tony williams i havent heard any other defensive player having their seasons or careers ended by denver cutblocking. Why is it in this culture we want to see people succeed but when they do we want to knock them down so quickly?


Do you have an opinion on the reason that Denver D linemen aren't allowed to practice with the Denver O linemen?

Also, I would be interested to know why Denver players, when they leave, even comment on the dirty tactics?

Traveler
11-20-2006, 10:10 AM
Do you have an opinion on the reason that Denver D linemen aren't allowed to practice with the Denver O linemen?

Also, I would be interested to know why Denver players, when they leave, even comment on the dirty tactics?

Is it me or did you just contradict yourself? They aren't allowed to practice against the OL. Then former members denounce the technique as dirty when they leave. How could they do so if they don't practice against it? :kiddingme

Iowanian
11-20-2006, 11:17 AM
You're going to find an angry team at your doorstep Thursday.

Ha!

.....Or a beaten, bruised, butt hurt, unrested, dejected mob that doesn't believe in their QB.

crazyhorse
11-20-2006, 12:14 PM
Is it me or did you just contradict yourself? They aren't allowed to practice against the OL. Then former members denounce the technique as dirty when they leave. How could they do so if they don't practice against it? :kiddingme

Not at all. You don't have to practice against it to understand it's dirty. The fact that the caoch wont let you practice against it pretty much intimates it's dirty.

Don't you think?

Traveler
11-20-2006, 02:12 PM
Not at all. You don't have to practice against it to understand it's dirty. The fact that the caoch wont let you practice against it pretty much intimates it's dirty.

Don't you think?

Maybe I should rephrase the question. What evidence do you have that supports your claim that our DL isn't allowed to practice against it?

manchambo
11-20-2006, 02:58 PM
Do you have an opinion on the reason that Denver D linemen aren't allowed to practice with the Denver O linemen?

Also, I would be interested to know why Denver players, when they leave, even comment on the dirty tactics?

That's just dumb. And you actually are proving the converse of what you are lamely attempting to prove. There are all sorts of things that teams generally don't do in practice: hitting the quarterback and tackling below the waist being high on that list. Why? Because every football play carries a risk of knee injury.

And why do focus so much on blocking below the waist? Every time I see a DB tackle in the open field, they go straight for the knees. Isn't that dangerous? Can't it (and doesn't it routinely) cause serious knee injuries? What's the difference? (Other than the fact that one has driven the Broncos to two championships while your team languished)

SlipperyPete
11-20-2006, 03:22 PM
Maybe I should rephrase the question. What evidence do you have that supports your claim that our DL isn't allowed to practice against it?

http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9606522/1

Bronco Bob
11-20-2006, 03:48 PM
I was hoping someone had a good answer instead I find it's just some
Cheaps fan whining.

DenverBrit
11-20-2006, 03:56 PM
I say anything you are afraid/refuse to practice against your own team should be a clear sign that you are taking it too far.

Does KC allow QB sacks in practice?

ClevelandBronco
11-20-2006, 04:11 PM
Trying to blow out someones knee on a spike play at the end of last nights game is just ridiculous. If I was Olshanski and was ejected from the game, I would have turned around and finished the ass kicking he started.

The fact that he's is willing to do it in prime time shows the football fans what all the players in the league already know. As far as Denver is concerned, there is no price to great for 5 yards of field position.

That's nothing but dirty slander. No way we go after a guy's knees just for 5 yards.

We got 15 yards, not 5.

boltaneer
11-20-2006, 04:17 PM
http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9606522/1

Thanks for that link. That's a pretty damning article.

I think most football fans don't like to see injuries to anyone, regardless of the uniform they wear. This is one issue that should be looked at objectively.

TexanBob
11-20-2006, 04:45 PM
When was the last time the media asked an intelligent question? I wouldn't talk to them either.

manchambo
11-20-2006, 05:00 PM
Thanks for that link. That's a pretty damning article.

I think most football fans don't like to see injuries to anyone, regardless of the uniform they wear. This is one issue that should be looked at objectively.

Very damning article. And by the self-same logic, it also inadvertently damns dirty techniques like sacking the quarterback, tackling below the waist, and taking any tackle to the ground.

boltaneer
11-20-2006, 06:02 PM
Very damning article. And by the self-same logic, it also inadvertently damns dirty techniques like sacking the quarterback, tackling below the waist, and taking any tackle to the ground.

I understand what you're saying here but that article says a lot more than this.

manchambo
11-20-2006, 06:23 PM
I understand what you're saying here but that article says a lot more than this.

But what does it really say more than that? That people sometimes get hurt when they are hit below the waist? Then we should ban all hitting below the waist. In fact, I think it is more dangerous for a corner to run up with a full head of steam and undercut a runner. Why isn't anyone arguing for that to be banned?

Bronx33
11-20-2006, 06:29 PM
Go figure a cheaps fan slingin snot too, iam not suprised.

TheDave
11-20-2006, 07:36 PM
I also read an article that showed players get injured more in Domed stadiums than outdoor events.... Soooooo.... After we get rid of the cut blocks, and the tackling below the waist, and all contact with a QB (manning will love that), we need to outlaw domes.

KipCorrington25
11-20-2006, 07:46 PM
Not talking to the media is a pretty lame gimmick. It's run it's course. Time to put an end to it. I could understand it in college but this is the NFL for christ sake.

DenverBrit
11-20-2006, 07:59 PM
I also read an article that showed players get injured more in Domed stadiums than outdoor events.... Soooooo.... After we get rid of the cut blocks, and the tackling below the waist, and all contact with a QB (manning will love that), we need to outlaw domes.

Or put a lid on Invesco.
After QB sacks are banned too, they are the main cause of QB injuries....
......that and driveways.

manchambo
11-20-2006, 08:09 PM
I also read an article that showed players get injured more in Domed stadiums than outdoor events.... Soooooo.... After we get rid of the cut blocks, and the tackling below the waist, and all contact with a QB (manning will love that), we need to outlaw domes.


When you think about it, banning sacks might help the Broncos quite a bit. We could stop worrying so much about getting a pass rusher . . .

DeuceOfClub
11-20-2006, 08:42 PM
How many fans died watching the dreadful Chiefs over the years?

ClevelandBronco
11-20-2006, 08:45 PM
How many fans died watching the dreadful Chiefs over the years?

Or waiting for Marty to win a big game?

Needa Pass Rush
11-20-2006, 09:10 PM
http://cache.denverbroncos.com/resources/custom/mediaroom/photos/headshots/Meadows_Adam-small.jpg http://cache.denverbroncos.com/resources/custom/mediaroom/photos/headshots/nalen-small.jpg http://cache.denverbroncos.com/resources/custom/mediaroom/photos/headshots/Pears_Erik-small.jpg http://cache.denverbroncos.com/resources/custom/mediaroom/photos/headshots/Hamilton_Ben-small.jpg http://cache.denverbroncos.com/resources/custom/mediaroom/photos/headshots/Carlisle_Cooper-small.jpg

You have to ask yourself how interested you really are in what they have to say.

azbroncfan
11-21-2006, 12:58 AM
I see two injuries ending seasons, I'm sure no chef OL has ended any DL season. I wonder if there is a stat on this.