View Full Version : Igor Olshansky and Tom Nalen was it dirty?
RMANCIL
11-20-2006, 12:10 AM
What was up with Nalen going for Olshansky knees on a play were the Broncos were going to spike the ball ?
All the Bolt fans feel like that was uncalled for.
Igor sure helped Denver by committing the personal foul , that stopped the clock for Denver.
400HZ
11-20-2006, 12:49 AM
It was dirty as hell. I'm sure Nalen or whoever knew full well that Olshankshy just had knee surgury. There was absolutely no reason for it. Oh well, it just means that Igor is gonna f*ck him up next game.
Boltergeist
11-20-2006, 12:53 AM
I think the concensus from fans around the league is that Nalen is a dirty mother f'er. This is how Bronco linemen ended Jamal Williams' season 2 times. Here are some opinions from other fans on this play:
http://www.kffl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=190239
SportinOne
11-20-2006, 12:55 AM
are you kidding? he pretty much just fell forward (although, not on accident) and that was about it.. that was some pretty good roid rage by Olshansky, is your whole team juiced?
LT won this game for you, the rest of your team played like what they were...mediocre at best... Can't wait for LT to grace the cover of Madden next year.
TexanBob
11-20-2006, 12:56 AM
What Nalen did was legal but many around the league think it should not be. What Olshansky did was not legal but defensible in as much as he felt Nalen was cheap-shotting him.
I actually blame the league which continues to have this double-standard about whether cut blocking is legal or not. Like the fines and penalties over late/hard hits, it seems as if the legality is based on how badly the player got hurt and who screamed about it.
Speaking of which, did you see that personal foul they flagged one of the Cowboys for love-tapping Peyton Manning? David Carr can get gang raped back there and they won't call anything but let Peyton so much as get touched after the ball is out and it's a personal foul. Don't tell me the NFL doesn't have special rules for their stars.
Rascal
11-20-2006, 12:57 AM
For all you know the wistle wasn't blown, or he didn't hear it, so Nalen felt something was up and needed to block somebody. Or he knew Igor was going to go into a roidal rampage and get a penalthy.
Bunch of idiot fans.
400HZ
11-20-2006, 01:00 AM
For all you know the wistle wasn't blown, or he didn't hear it, so Nalen felt something was up and needed to block somebody. Or he knew Igor was going to go into a roidal rampage and get a penalthy.
Bunch of idiot fans.
Nalen felt he needed to do something to the guy across from him who was just standing there watching Plummer spike the ball, huh?
XXXshogunXXX
11-20-2006, 01:03 AM
are you kidding? he pretty much just fell forward (although, not on accident) and that was about it.. that was some pretty good roid rage by Olshansky, is your whole team juiced?
fell forward, not on accident? what does that mean? he fell on purpose, thats called a dive, at igors knees. nice spin.
theAPAOps5
11-20-2006, 01:04 AM
Peyton Manning is the darling of the league thus all the commercials. I am not sure what Nalen was thinking but it looked bad in replays. I just wonder if he thought a running play was happening. Igor should have walked away as much as any man wants to retaliate. He could have cost his team
Tommy was just makin' sure Olshansky wasn't sleeping on the job! ;D
Goobzilla
11-20-2006, 01:13 AM
Enjoy a good win and relax. Clean or dirty, throwing two punches to the head less than 3 feet from an official is just plain STUPID. Even Marty was less than impressed with Igor's act.
footstepsfrom#27
11-20-2006, 01:14 AM
What kind of parents could name their little bundle of joy "Igor" anyway? What's up with that? !Booya!
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/4159/igor.jpg
boltaneer
11-20-2006, 02:17 AM
Watch that play again. The ball that Plummer spikes, hits Nalen on the leg and then he dives at Igor.
I'm sorry, that was a cheap shot attempt.
Hercules Rockefeller
11-20-2006, 02:18 AM
I'm sure that Nalen was in no way trying to provoke the very response that occurred from Olshansky?
and I did not see the cut, I was on my out of the stadium at that point
BigBad
11-20-2006, 02:26 AM
What kind of parents could name their little bundle of joy "Igor" anyway? What's up with that? !Booya!
He is from Russia.
KCGridironBeast
11-20-2006, 02:32 AM
I did not see the cut, I was on my out of the stadium at that point
You and about half of the other Bronco fans. Still within one score and in possession of the ball and everyone was leaving...that's sad.
theAPAOps5
11-20-2006, 02:33 AM
Man guys you should see what is going on over at bolttalk.com. I went to give them their kudos and this tool keeps responding Fuc the broncos. At least all the Charger fans who had balls to come over here are classy.
As for Nalen the play looked bad but he was cut blocking. What people dont' understand is that the D lineman saw him. A cut block is when you dive at the legs when they guy has his back towards you and is engaged with another player.
Igor looked like the ultimate tool though. Almost cost his team what a tard
theAPAOps5
11-20-2006, 02:33 AM
You and about half of the other Bronco fans. Still within one score and in possession of the ball and everyone was leaving...that's sad.
Word that was frustrating to see on TV. Most of the fans had left and the team was still in contention.
freak6
11-20-2006, 02:33 AM
If Igor takes a step forward, Nalen could have ended his career.
The way the NFL protects QBs, why should Nalen be able to do the same thing? Especially on a dead ball.
Nalen really disrespected himself with that play imo.
If anyone tried that BS on me, on a dead ball, I'd hit him also. I don't blaim Olshansky at all for getting caught up in the moment and decking Nalen. I'd like to know WTF was going through his mind, but of course they don't talk.
freak6
11-20-2006, 02:34 AM
and I did not see the cut, I was on my out of the stadium at that point
Not my style, but ok.
Hercules Rockefeller
11-20-2006, 02:36 AM
You and about half of the other Bronco fans. Still within one score and in possession of the ball and everyone was leaving...that's sad.
kiss me. Everyone leaving is a pretty good indicator of what everyone thinks of this team's chances to come back with Jake under center even when it is just 1 score.
Edit: That's pretty gay TJ that B L O W M E becomes "kiss me".
BigBad
11-20-2006, 02:37 AM
It WAS NOT ILLEGAL.
The thing is EVERYONE knew it was a spike play. There should be respect between players not to pull stuff like that. It was CLASSLESS AND IMO CHEAP.
If you didnt know Igor just came off knee surgury 2 weeks ago.
BTW this just adds more fuel to the fire for those who think of your O-line as"DIRTY".
BigBad
11-20-2006, 02:38 AM
If Igor takes a step forward, Nalen could have ended his career.
The way the NFL protects QBs, why should Nalen be able to do the same thing? Especially on a dead ball.
Nalen really disrespected himself with that play imo.
If anyone tried that BS on me, on a dead ball, I'd hit him also. I don't blaim Olshansky at all for getting caught up in the moment and decking Nalen. I'd like to know WTF was going through his mind, but of course they don't talk.
:thumbsup:
theAPAOps5
11-20-2006, 02:40 AM
It WAS NOT ILLEGAL.
The thing is EVERYONE knew it was a spike play. There should be respect between players not to pull stuff like that. It was CLASSLESS AND IMO CHEAP.
If you didnt know Igor just came off knee surgury 2 weeks ago.
BTW this just adds more fuel to the fire for those who think of your O-line as"DIRTY".
Most will say Nalen was wrong. But Igor just looked like a tool. Nice one two punch to the pads retard. I would bet roid rage had something to do with that reaction though
footstepsfrom#27
11-20-2006, 02:42 AM
He is from Russia.
Ya think?
BigBad
11-20-2006, 02:44 AM
Well you made fun of the guys name.
footstepsfrom#27
11-20-2006, 02:44 AM
Everyone leaving is a pretty good indicator of what everyone thinks of this team's chances to come back with Jake under center even when it is just 1 score.
Bingo.
footstepsfrom#27
11-20-2006, 02:46 AM
Well you made fun of the guys name.
:giggle:
BigBad
11-20-2006, 02:48 AM
Your Team. ROFL!
Plummer
LOL
Boltjolt
11-20-2006, 02:55 AM
are you kidding? he pretty much just fell forward (although, not on accident) and that was about it.. that was some pretty good roid rage by Olshansky, is your whole team juiced?
LT won this game for you, the rest of your team played like what they were...mediocre at best... Can't wait for LT to grace the cover of Madden next year.
Yeah one guy always blocks for himself and catches everypass..oh and he throws it to himself too ROFL!
Whatever. I thought this was a game we would lose before the season started because it was in Denver. We pulled it out with a banged up defense with one suspended.
Say LT won it all you want. Sure he played great. The thing is, in the past in Denver...you always had a lead on us and we had to throw. Now we dont have to try and have Drew Brees beat you. Rivers will and he actually can.
You guys get to see Rivers twice a year and he is just getting warmed up. He is going to be a great one!!
footstepsfrom#27
11-20-2006, 02:57 AM
Your Team. ROFL!
A Charger fan is laughing at us? What have you EVER won? AFL title maybe?
Plummer
LOL
THAT one is justified...but you should enjoy it while you can...
footstepsfrom#27
11-20-2006, 02:59 AM
Yeah one guy always blocks for himself and catches everypass..oh and he throws it to himself too ROFL!
Whatever. I thought this was a game we would lose before the season started because it was in Denver. We pulled it out with a banged up defense with one suspended.
Say LT won it all you want. Sure he played great. The thing is, in the past in Denver...you always had a lead on us and we had to throw. Now we dont have to try and have Drew Brees beat you. Rivers will and he actually can.
You guys get to see Rivers twice a year and he is just getting warmed up. He is going to be a great one!!
And you get to see Fake once more in a Denver uni...enjoy it while you can.
Boltjolt
11-20-2006, 03:04 AM
And you get to see Fake once more in a Denver uni...enjoy it while you can.
Well ive never been high on Jake. I was glad you guys signed him and he has really never had a great game against us.
Im not going to gloat to much . It is a great win for us in your house and a long time coming. Our defense is banged up too...plus missing Merriman.
Cutler will be a good one but it will take some time. Rivers is just going to be a stud. He is so damn smart and a great leader. He is just much better than Brees.
It is odd that Plummer did so well last year and has taken a step back this year. But ill take it!
Xenos
11-20-2006, 03:17 AM
Most will say Nalen was wrong. But Igor just looked like a tool. Nice one two punch to the pads retard. I would bet roid rage had something to do with that reaction though
That was just dumb on his part. There was a lot of an emotion in the game and combined that with him hurting his knees in the Raider's game, I can see why he just lost it. I'm not saying what he did was excusable since he should get fined. I'm just saying that both should.
DeuceOfClub
11-20-2006, 03:17 AM
What was up with Nalen going for Olshansky knees on a play were the Broncos were going to spike the ball ?
That was a cheap-shot if I ever saw one. Nalen had no business doing anything other than snapping for Jake to spike.
I was actually surprised he wasn’t flag for that, I do think however the league will take a look.
Even if they play is legal by the rules it is uncalled for.
Rod-Rage-Igor did, however, toped him with his stupid reaction. I hope Kiel can sell him some downers to help him relax.
footstepsfrom#27
11-20-2006, 03:21 AM
Well ive never been high on Jake. I was glad you guys signed him and he has really never had a great game against us.
Actually he's had two:
2003/week 11- Denver 37 San Diego 8; Plummer- 23/34 253 yards, 3 TD's, 1 INT
2004/week 3- Denver 23 San Diego 13; Plummer 25/36 294 yards, 2 TD's 0 INT's
He also threw 4 picks in one game against the Bolts...thankfully, his days are numbered here.
Xenos
11-20-2006, 03:22 AM
That was a cheap-shot if I ever saw one. Nalen had no business doing anything other than snapping for Jake to spike.
I was actually surprised he wasn’t flag for that, I do think however the league will take a look.
Even if they play is legal by the rules it is uncalled for.
Rod-Rage-Igor did, however, toped him with his stupid reaction. I hope Kiel can sell him some downers to help him relax.
Igor isn't on Roids. He just has superhuman strength,
theAPAOps5
11-20-2006, 03:23 AM
That was just dumb on his part. There was a lot of an emotion in the game and combined that with him hurting his knees in the Raider's game, I can see why he just lost it. I'm not saying what he did was excusable since he should get fined. I'm just saying that both should.
Oh no I can see where Igor lost it. Especially with the knee surgery and all. That just could have cost his team big time. Let the NFL work it out as hard as it may be.
SPchief
11-20-2006, 03:29 AM
As for Nalen the play looked bad but he was cut blocking. What people dont' understand is that the D lineman saw him. A cut block is when you dive at the legs when they guy has his back towards you and is engaged with another player.
How can you defend Nolan for what he did? That was no where near a "cut block" Dude DOVE at his knee on a fuggin spike play AFTER the ball was spiked.
Please take off your homer glasses
ClevelandBronco
11-20-2006, 03:33 AM
Olshansky was assuming too much when he thought that an obvious spike situation meant that he didn't have to play that down. That kind of lackadaisical attitude on a football field can get you injured.
And if Nalen went for my knees the way he did Igor's on that play, I'd have ripped his helmet off before I started beating him in the head.
footstepsfrom#27
11-20-2006, 03:33 AM
How can you defend Nolan for what he did? That was no where near a "cut block" Dude DOVE at his knee on a fuggin spike play AFTER the ball was spiked.
Please take off your homer glasses
That Nolan is a dirty player. ;D
boltaneer
11-20-2006, 03:34 AM
Actually, Igor is Ukranian.
The "roid rage" comments are childish and I think are being spit out from sore losers. Remember, Igor is two weeks coming off of knee surgery. I think he's probably very sensitive about anyone taking a cheap shot at his knees at this point in time and most likely the majority of players not coming off of knee surgery would be just as angry about that type of behavior.
theAPAOps5
11-20-2006, 03:35 AM
How can you defend Nolan for what he did? That was no where near a "cut block" Dude DOVE at his knee on a fuggin spike play AFTER the ball was spiked.
Please take off your homer glasses
Run along now with your 8 posts. All teams cut block including the Chokers. Nalen had no business doing that but he didn't hit a player engaged with another player.
SPchief
11-20-2006, 03:38 AM
Run along now with your 8 posts. All teams cut block including the Chokers. Nalen had no business doing that but he didn't hit a player engaged with another player.
You're right, he didn't hit a player engaged with another, he dove at somebody's knee after the spike. classy
broncocalijohn
11-20-2006, 03:40 AM
What Nalen did was legal but many around the league think it should not be. What Olshansky did was not legal but defensible in as much as he felt Nalen was cheap-shotting him.
I actually blame the league which continues to have this double-standard about whether cut blocking is legal or not. Like the fines and penalties over late/hard hits, it seems as if the legality is based on how badly the player got hurt and who screamed about it.
Speaking of which, did you see that personal foul they flagged one of the Cowboys for love-tapping Peyton Manning? David Carr can get gang raped back there and they won't call anything but let Peyton so much as get touched after the ball is out and it's a personal foul. Don't tell me the NFL doesn't have special rules for their stars.
If Tom knew we were spiking the ball, then there is no reason to throw that block out. Oshansky was just plain retarded for retaliating like he did, not once but twice. I didnt like seeing it. If we are running a play and it isnt a running play , why would he be diving diving down to block? He had a right to be pissed but if that is how you want to give a team a fighting chance, then be my guest december 10th. I am sure they will be battling it out then.
footstepsfrom#27
11-20-2006, 03:43 AM
You're right, he didn't hit a player engaged with another, he dove at somebody's knee after the spike. classy
Who cares? He missed didn't he?;D
broncocalijohn
11-20-2006, 03:44 AM
Igor isn't on Roids. He just has superhuman strength,
Dont talk about superhuman strength like he is some kind of Tedy Bruschi or something!
SPchief
11-20-2006, 03:45 AM
Who cares? He missed didn't he?;D
keep drinking the koolaid
footstepsfrom#27
11-20-2006, 03:47 AM
keep drinking the koolaid
Keep bitching about something that had no impact.
SPchief
11-20-2006, 03:53 AM
Keep b****ing about something that had no impact.
no impact? Dude, Nalen could have ended somebodys carear.
footstepsfrom#27
11-20-2006, 03:57 AM
no impact? Dude, Nalen could have ended somebodys carear.
Did he end it?
theAPAOps5
11-20-2006, 03:59 AM
no impact? Dude, Nalen could have ended somebodys carear.
Don't worry he always tries harder against the Chiefs. Then you might have something legit to bitch about. Until then run along and go convince yourself that KC is actually a decent team.
SPchief
11-20-2006, 04:05 AM
Did he end it?
So you draw the line that its ok that he could have ended a career but didn't its all good, but he didn't so its allright? Are you high?
SPchief
11-20-2006, 04:06 AM
Don't worry he always tries harder against the Chiefs. Then you might have something legit to b**** about. Until then run along and go convince yourself that KC is actually a decent team.
What is your record against the bolts this year?
theAPAOps5
11-20-2006, 04:07 AM
So you draw the line that its ok that he could have ended a career but didn't its all good, but he didn't so its allright? Are you high?
Oh poor baby a forum thread is getting you all fired up. Isn't there anything better for you to do?
What is your record against us this year. Check that what is your record this year. Always pretenders and never contenders. At least you are better than the raiders.
Taco John
11-20-2006, 04:08 AM
What is your record against the bolts this year?
Not nearly as good as our record against the Chiefs this year.
bro1ncos
11-20-2006, 06:27 AM
Do I think what Nalen did was cheap? Yes
Do I think Nalen was trying to hit and/or injure Idor? No
Do I think Nalen was trying to draw a personal foul from Igor? Yes
Nalen is a very smart and savvy veteren. I think there is a high probablity that he knew exactly what Igor's response would be when Tom fell down like that. It wasn't a dive it was much closer to an on purpose fall.
RMANCIL
11-20-2006, 08:28 AM
Do I think what Nalen did was cheap? Yes
Do I think Nalen was trying to hit and/or injure Idor? No
Do I think Nalen was trying to draw a personal foul from Igor? Yes
Nalen is a very smart and savvy veteren. I think there is a high probablity that he knew exactly what Igor's response would be when Tom fell down like that. It wasn't a dive it was much closer to an on purpose fall.
Ok spin doctor , that was a dirty cheap shot plain and simple.
bloodsunday
11-20-2006, 09:18 AM
What was up with Nalen going for Olshansky knees on a play were the Broncos were going to spike the ball ?
All the Bolt fans feel like that was uncalled for.
Igor sure helped Denver by committing the personal foul , that stopped the clock for Denver.
It wasn't a particularly vicious hit and certainly wasn't illegal, but it was unnecessary. No other lineman even moved.
But how about this for a theory: Maybe Nalen got exactly what he wanted? Maybe he expected that Igor might react and give him 15 yards?
rugbythug
11-20-2006, 10:00 AM
Come on- This is ridiculous. In no way was Nalen even close to hurting Igor. It was a cut block from straight in front of the player. This happens on over half of the snaps in every game every week. Igor probably had the same type of block occur 15-30 times earlier in this same game. Quite being a bunch of pansies and whining about your winning football game. The cut block is no more dangerous than a QB sack. Players get hurt by both plays. Actually considering how few sacks their are I would guess you are more likely to get hurt from a sack than a cut block. Because of this We should definitley outlaw QB sacks.
Billy Clyde Puckett
11-20-2006, 10:27 AM
There was crap going on all night on the interior of the line. I am surprised things didn't get out of hand earlier. A couple of plays earlier Igor had one of the OL, Hamilton I think, by the face mask and was trying to throw him aside.
ROYC75
11-20-2006, 10:41 AM
Just your normal dirty play by a Donk, nothing new .........
Iowanian
11-20-2006, 11:07 AM
Nalen's shot was nearly as cheap as Haynesworth's face stomp.
Nalen knew it was a spike, he knew the play was dead by then, Olshansky was standing there and he took a dive at his knee. It was a spotlight at midfield on the cheapness of the donk Oline.
Olshansky shouldn't have responded, but I'm sure it was INSTINCT and he should be allowed to do something to protect his body, career and livelyhood vs that garbage. He should have put a knee in nalen's chin and KO'd him. What he did was alot more defendable than Nalen's blantant attempt to injure him at the end of the game.
Low rent.
Xenos
11-20-2006, 11:19 AM
Do I think what Nalen did was cheap? Yes
Do I think Nalen was trying to hit and/or injure Idor? No
Do I think Nalen was trying to draw a personal foul from Igor? Yes
Nalen is a very smart and savvy veteren. I think there is a high probablity that he knew exactly what Igor's response would be when Tom fell down like that. It wasn't a dive it was much closer to an on purpose fall.
That's about right. Igor's been in the league for only 3 years, while Tom's been in the league for like 12? He knew exactly what he needed to do to give his team a winning chance.
NaptownChief
11-20-2006, 11:46 AM
no impact? Dude, Nalen could have ended somebodys carear.
And it definitely had some impact.....Nalen probably lost the respect of a lot of players, coaches and fans.
NaptownChief
11-20-2006, 12:04 PM
Did he end it?
Andre Gurode didn't miss a game but that doesn't change the fact that Haynesworth's act was one of the dumbest, more gruesome intentional acts in a long while. So I am not sure what your point is in regard to Nalen's ridiculous dirty intentions falling short of a career ending injury.
Iowanian
11-20-2006, 12:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UgEK6_nz28
watch it. Learn it.
Notice how EVERY other player on the field knows the play is dead and stands up, and Nalen takes a dive, low at Igor's knee?
Blatant Cheap shot and there is Zero credibility to argueing differently.
bjeffrey
11-20-2006, 12:13 PM
I love Tom Nalen, but that was inexcusable.
NaptownChief
11-20-2006, 12:18 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UgEK6_nz28
watch it. Learn it.
Notice how EVERY other player on the field knows the play is dead and stands up, and Nalen takes a dive, low at Igor's knee?
Blatant Cheap shot and there is Zero credibility to argueing differently.
And even though the act was "technically" within the rules of the game it still could have and should have been called unnecessary roughness also...The penalties should have been offsetting and both guys tossed from the game. And before one of you clowns say you can't flag a legal play, I will remind you how wrong you are before hand. They have the ability to flag anyone at any time if they want to deem a players actions were unnecessary...Just like the point of emphasis that arose from the Sapp/Chad Clifton shot. It was a legal hit but now they will flag players for hits that are deemed unnecessary and away from the play.
Nalen should get a heavy fine for his actions. A suspension wouldn't be a bad idea either.
BigBad
11-20-2006, 12:23 PM
Just your normal dirty play by a Donk, nothing new .........
Exactly!
I amazes me the way you Bronco fans continue to defend CHEAP SHOTS.
sirhcyennek81
11-20-2006, 12:29 PM
Nalen felt he needed to do something to the guy across from him who was just standing there watching Plummer spike the ball, huh?
For a team who won last night I am sure hearing alot of bitching.
:Broncos:
Iowanian
11-20-2006, 12:43 PM
Flip it around.
On a spike play, What would be the thinking of donk fans if Igor had dived on Nalen's knee?
Thats what I thought.
RMANCIL
11-20-2006, 12:44 PM
The replay clearly shows the ball has been spiked and as such the play was dead when Nalen take his cheap shot. Igor over reacted but the intent to injure is very clear.
Both players should have been ejected and offsetting penalties would have been the correct call. Nalen was guilty of a late hit after the whistle had blown and of being clearly a dirty player.
How any one can defend that play is beyond reason.
RMANCIL
11-20-2006, 12:45 PM
The replay clearly shows the ball has been spiked and as such the play was dead when Nalen took his cheap shot. Igor over reacted but the intent to injure is very clear.
Both players should have been ejected and offsetting penalties would have been the correct call. Nalen was guilty of a late hit after the whistle had blown and of being clearly a dirty player.
How any one can defend that play is beyond reason.
KCbroncos
11-20-2006, 12:54 PM
Just your normal dirty play by a Donk, nothing new .........
queerhawk, get back to giving Robert Oral.
RMANCIL
11-20-2006, 01:02 PM
Here is a link to the Chiefs fan site it appears every fan agrees that Nalen is a cheap shot artist.
What jacks me is if he had taken out our DE when the game is all but over.
Igor had just missed two weeks from another dirty play by the Raiders.
Billy Clyde Puckett
11-20-2006, 01:29 PM
Here is a link to the Chiefs fan site it appears every fan agrees that Nalen is a cheap shot artist.
What jacks me is if he had taken out our DE when the game is all but over.
Igor had just missed two weeks from another dirty play by the Raiders.
So if he takes two "cheap shots" you don't think he had any part in instigating it????
DenverBrit
11-20-2006, 02:46 PM
You're right, he didn't hit a player engaged with another, he dove at somebody's knee after the spike. classy
You act as if KC, or any other team doesn't cut block.
EVERY team in the NFL uses the same blocking technique.
However, I didn't understand why Nalen felt the need to block on a spike play either.
A lot goes on during a game, maybe Igor did something to Nalen
earlier in the game or maybe he was just frustrated by Jake's play.
Nalen is a very smart and tough player, smart enough to provoke a foul
when a stoppage was need by Denver.
DenverBrit
11-20-2006, 02:48 PM
So if he takes two "cheap shots" you don't think he had any part in instigating it????
Makes ya wonder.
sirhcyennek81
11-20-2006, 02:51 PM
You act as if KC, or any other team doesn't cut block.
EVERY team in the NFL uses the same blocking technique.
However, I didn't understand why Nalen felt the need to block on a spike play either.
A lot goes on during a game, maybe Igor did something to Nalen
earlier in the game or maybe he was just frustrated by Jake's play.
Nalen is a very smart and tough player, smart enough to provoke a foul
when a stoppage was need by Denver.
On that same play, Rod Smith ran out like it was a fake spike. Nalen probably saw this, and attempted to block for Jake. Its not dirty, but Nalen being aware. Only idiot charger fans believe otherwise.
:Broncos:
Hugga Bunch
11-20-2006, 02:53 PM
When Jake said "GO!" Nalen heard "BLOW!" Tom Nalen's a good soldier. Follows orders without question.
I read somewhere that singer George Michael did the same thing in an LA public restroom. He took one in the jaw AND one to the back of the head.
boltssbbound
11-20-2006, 03:03 PM
Eveyrone else on the field was standing with their hands on their hips. Plummer had spiked the ball. Igor was just standing their and Nalen dove at his knees. If that's not a cheap shot, I don't know what is.
I think the real reason the Donks' O-line doesn't talk to the media is because they don't want to incriminate themselves.
theAPAOps5
11-20-2006, 03:03 PM
I just love how the Donks are so dirty. They have ended so many careers.... oh wait they really haven't hurt that many people in all these years. But wait they are dirty they must be just knocking out players left and right.
Some of you on here are idiots.
boltssbbound
11-20-2006, 03:05 PM
I just love how the Donks are so dirty. They have ended so many careers.... oh wait they really haven't hurt that many people in all these years. But wait they are dirty they must be just knocking out players left and right.
Some of you on here are idiots.
I guess you are forgetting 2002, when a Donk Lineman ran 20 yards downfield and dove at the back of Jamal Williams' legs away from the play. Jamal broke his ankle on that cheap hit and was out for the year.
Northman
11-20-2006, 03:06 PM
Denver was going to spike the ball there was no need for Nalen to dive at the defenders knees. That was a Cheap Shot. Sad but true.
sirhcyennek81
11-20-2006, 03:07 PM
Eveyrone else on the field was standing with their hands on their hips. Plummer had spiked the ball. Igor was just standing their and Nalen dove at his knees. If that's not a cheap shot, I don't know what is.
I think the real reason the Donks' O-line doesn't talk to the media is because they don't want to incriminate themselves.
Yeah, I mean, Nalen cant see whats going on behind him, he sees a wr take off, he figures, fake spike. But yeah, only Bronco linemen cutblock. You are a dumbass.
:Broncos:
WakeUpCall
11-20-2006, 03:11 PM
Man guys you should see what is going on over at bolttalk.com. I went to give them their kudos and this tool keeps responding Fuc the broncos. At least all the Charger fans who had balls to come over here are classy.
As for Nalen the play looked bad but he was cut blocking. What people dont' understand is that the D lineman saw him. A cut block is when you dive at the legs when they guy has his back towards you and is engaged with another player.
Igor looked like the ultimate tool though. Almost cost his team what a tard
Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!
A chop block is a block where a player dives at a defender's feet when that defender is engaged on another blocker (there's no front or back to it!!!). A cut block is a block where a player dives at a defender's feet when he isn't engaged on another blocker. The cut block is legal, but shouldn't be. The chop block is illegal.
So the block was technically legal, as far as blocks go, it was just cheap. Add to that, that it was unnecessary (being a spike play), and Nalen should have been flagged for unnecessary roughness. It's sort of like the first touch of a QB who's taking a knee being a crushing blow to the side. While it is indeed the first touch, it's unnecessary!!!
youcandoit1687
11-20-2006, 03:15 PM
its embarassing, i admit. i wish we could get into nalens head on that. heres some scenarios that may have been in play:
maybe olshansky had done something similar to him previously
maybe nalen knew that olshansky was a hot head so he figured he would dive out(it looked like he didnt really want to hit him), piss him off, and draw the foul
maybe nalen was just being a crazy mofo and did something that could have cost us the game
in any case, i think shanny has to have a talk with nalen about that, on nat'l TV, that just looks bad. if i were olshansky i probably would have reacted. im usually very mellow about that kinda thing but i would not have taken that well, thats just not cool. its like an unwritten rule among players to not go for the knees intentinoally. one time in practice last year our DCoach told the DLine to dive(we were doing goalline situations), i got so pissed off, our whole OLine agreed that we would not run another snap against them if they did that ever again. thats just not cool. i think some answers will come out from the league and from olshansky. for good or for bad, nalen wont talk to the media
youcandoit1687
11-20-2006, 03:17 PM
oh and just to be clear, chop is a blindsided cut. a cut is waht nalen did and is legal(except after the whistle obviously lol). cut blocking is common on outside run plays(the whole line sometimes) and when players pull(the remainders on that side of the line cut down the line. its a possibility that olshansky dove at nalen on one of the goalline plays which is common for DLines in that circumstance. its pure speculation at this point.
Cochise
11-20-2006, 03:18 PM
Eveyrone else on the field was standing with their hands on their hips. Plummer had spiked the ball. Igor was just standing their and Nalen dove at his knees. If that's not a cheap shot, I don't know what is.
I agree with all of that.
If you are making a legal cut block during the course of play, fine. People are going to say what they will, but the league hasn't made it illegal so you can still do it.
To do it after a spike play, a play that has also ended, with 100% motivation only to injure, in my mind Nalen should be suspended for that.
Reminds me of the Foster cheap shot away from the play on the Bengals player. Like it or not, the reputation exists and there are some credible examples. Everybody in the league knows that when you play Denver, you have to be alert on the field all the time for your knees even after the plays are over.
To say it's not encouraged or at least winked at I think is pretty silly.
theAPAOps5
11-20-2006, 03:22 PM
I guess you are forgetting 2002, when a Donk Lineman ran 20 yards downfield and dove at the back of Jamal Williams' legs away from the play. Jamal broke his ankle on that cheap hit and was out for the year.
No I didn't say people haven't gotten hurt, just not as many as people are exclaiming. And get your facts straight. The guy who hit Williams was Foster and he didn't run 20 yrds down field and dive at the guy. He got him on the backside of the line and cut him which looked more like a chop. I didn't like that play either.
Hugga Bunch
11-20-2006, 03:26 PM
"I don't know what he was trying to do, all I know is there was a grown man in a uniform on his knees in front of me" Olshansky said of the incident. "Next time I'm just gonna whip out my big Russian meat hammer and hit him over the head with it!"
theAPAOps5
11-20-2006, 03:27 PM
Oh that is funny Hugga, good stuff
boltssbbound
11-20-2006, 03:31 PM
Yeah, I mean, Nalen cant see whats going on behind him, he sees a wr take off, he figures, fake spike. But yeah, only Bronco linemen cutblock. You are a dumbass.
:Broncos:
None of the other linemen dove at a defender's knees. Do they all have eyes in the back of their heads?
Since when is cut blocking the NT a pass blocking technique?
boltssbbound
11-20-2006, 03:32 PM
No I didn't say people haven't gotten hurt, just not as many as people are exclaiming. And get your facts straight. The guy who hit Williams was Foster and he didn't run 20 yrds down field and dive at the guy. He got him on the backside of the line and cut him which looked more like a chop. I didn't like that play either.
You are remembering the play wrong. I was there. It was 15-20 yards downfield. Jamal was slowing up, as the running back was yards away and getting tackled. And Foster dove at the back of Jamal's legs.
philiptr2
11-20-2006, 03:43 PM
Nalen is smart enough to take a cheap shot that he can get away with. If he were a stupid player, he would have kneed the guy in the nards after the play. I'm sure Nalen was provoked, and I'm sure they were going at it all game long, but he knows legal ways to get back at opponents between the whistles.
Good for Nalen...why should he relax just because Igor is relaxing. Get out there and bring it to them every down. Every down means every down, not every down except when the defense takes the down off.
BigBad
11-20-2006, 03:45 PM
It wasnt Foster on Jamal it was Steve Herdon(spelling.)
Foster was the scum bag who broke the Bengal defensive players leg WAAAAAAAAAAAAY away from the play on Monday night football a couple of years ago.
Then rat went on and on how other teams do it. Whatever.
boltssbbound
11-20-2006, 03:46 PM
Nalen is smart enough to take a cheap shot that he can get away with. If he were a stupid player, he would have kneed the guy in the nards after the play. I'm sure Nalen was provoked, and I'm sure they were going at it all game long, but he knows legal ways to get back at opponents between the whistles.
Good for Nalen...why should he relax just because Igor is relaxing. Get out there and bring it to them every down. Every down means every down, not every down except when the defense takes the down off.
Classless post. Going at it is one thing. Intent to injure is another. If that play was made on a QB it would be the talk of the league. It's a cheap shot no matter who it's on.
theAPAOps5
11-20-2006, 03:47 PM
You are remembering the play wrong. I was there. It was 15-20 yards downfield. Jamal was slowing up, as the running back was yards away and getting tackled. And Foster dove at the back of Jamal's legs.
Maybe I am then. We could talk until we are blue in the face on this point but it won't solve what happened. Nalen looked bad, he wasn't trying to hurt Igor. If he was that dirty he would have dove harder but that was more of a flop. Igor lost his cool its perfectly understandable. No one wins in my opinion it was not the way a great game should have ended.
theAPAOps5
11-20-2006, 03:49 PM
It wasnt Foster on Jamal it was Steve Herdon(spelling.)
Foster was the scum bag who broke the Bengal defensive players leg WAAAAAAAAAAAAY away from the play on Monday night football a couple of years ago.
Then rat went on and on how other teams do it. Whatever.
Ok I have my plays mixed up though. And Shanny only went out and went after the Steelers after JawSpit called them out. Shanny pulled up tape from the steelers games that year and had proof that they do the same thing. JawSpit never said a word after that.
BigBad
11-20-2006, 03:56 PM
Someone needs to put together a compilation of hurt defensive lineman following Denver games. My guess is the list would be pretty long.
Hugga Bunch
11-20-2006, 03:58 PM
Get out there and bring it to them every down. Every down means every down, not every down except when the defense takes the down off.
Maybe I'm a little slow. Can you run through that for me again? I still don't get the "every down" thing.
DomCasual
11-20-2006, 04:05 PM
Actually, Igor is Ukranian.
The "roid rage" comments are childish and I think are being spit out from sore losers. Remember, Igor is two weeks coming off of knee surgery. I think he's probably very sensitive about anyone taking a cheap shot at his knees at this point in time and most likely the majority of players not coming off of knee surgery would be just as angry about that type of behavior.
No way he would be able to recover that fast if he wasn't taking steroids.
I saw this show once, with Ben Affleck, where he was in high school, and he started taking steroids, and he got really big, and he started acting really mean to everyone, and he started hitting people, and he hit his girlfriend - it was bad, just like Igor last night.
You should tell him to watch that. He should understand the dangers of steroids. His girlfriend should watch it, too. I'd hate to see her beat up like Ben Affleck's girlfriend in that show I watched.
DomCasual
11-20-2006, 04:08 PM
no impact? Dude, Nalen could have ended somebodys carear.
Ha!
theAPAOps5
11-20-2006, 04:08 PM
Someone needs to put together a compilation of hurt defensive lineman following Denver games. My guess is the list would be pretty long.
I bet your would be suprised at how few it was.
BigBad
11-20-2006, 04:10 PM
I saw this show once, with Ben Affleck, where he was in high school, and he started taking steroids, and he got really big, and he started acting really mean to everyone, and he started hitting people, and he hit his girlfriend - it was bad, just like Igor last night.
Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious!
I remember that after school special. CLASSIC!!!
The guy displayed some of the worst acting ever. Of course nothing has changed.
boltaneer
11-20-2006, 04:11 PM
No way he would be able to recover that fast if he wasn't taking steroids.
I saw this show once, with Ben Affleck, where he was in high school, and he started taking steroids, and he got really big, and he started acting really mean to everyone, and he started hitting people, and he hit his girlfriend - it was bad, just like Igor last night.
You should tell him to watch that. He should understand the dangers of steroids. His girlfriend should watch it, too. I'd hate to see her beat up like Ben Affleck's girlfriend in that show I watched.
Now this is comedy gold! :rofl:
Hugga Bunch
11-20-2006, 04:13 PM
Someone needs to put together a compilation of hurt defensive lineman following Denver games. My guess is the list would be pretty long.
Someone needs a BIG HUG...
Come here Big Bad!! :ouwknow:
WakeUpCall
11-20-2006, 04:22 PM
Someone needs a BIG HUG...
Come here Big Bad!! :ouwknow:
We'll see if we can arrange for D. Johnson of J. Allen to schedule a hug for Jake Bummer this Thursday... :yayaya:
Broncofan_H
11-20-2006, 04:35 PM
Someone needs to put together a compilation of hurt defensive lineman following Denver games. My guess is the list would be pretty long.
Have at it, man.
I'd be willing to bet the # is far lower than you would like to believe.
I think Nalen was just trying to get Igor to respond and get a penalty. He didn't launch into his legs. He probably knew he could get that type of response.
That said, I don't like what Nalen did at all.
theAPAOps5
11-20-2006, 04:36 PM
We'll see if we can arrange for D. Johnson of J. Allen to schedule a hug for Jake Bummer this Thursday... :yayaya:
There could be worse things :angel:
DomCasual
11-20-2006, 04:38 PM
We'll see if we can arrange for D. Johnson of J. Allen to schedule a hug for Jake Bummer this Thursday... :yayaya:
Jake Bummer. You stayed up last night thinking of that one - didn't you! You Chiefs fans are so witty and smart.
Jake Bummer!
See, the Bummer part rhymes with Plummer. Bummer. Plummer. See? And then - and this part is pure genius - there's something of a double entendre with Bummer. On one side, "bum" is slang for butt, or the nethermost region of the human body. So you have that, which would be hilarious by itself. But then Bummer is sort of a negative exclamatory phrase. "Bummer, man!" Like that! I mean, it takes awhile to let it sink in, and it's sort of high brow. But when you get it, it gets a laugh going deep in your belly and it just erupts. You know what I mean? It erupts!
Seriously, man - I have a buddy that puts on a comedy hour on the television. You should talk with him. He's always looking for talent. Right now, it's just on the local cable community channel. But it's up to almost 100 listeners, and it's going to be HUGE! PM me with your email, and I'll put him in touch with you.
Rohirrim
11-20-2006, 04:41 PM
How can you judge an action based on only one video shot? Nalen has been in this league for many years and is very rarely called for any kind of penalty. If he had a reputation for cheap shots, the refs would have been on him long before now. I find it kind of odd that Tom would do something like that out of the blue. For all we know, Igor was punching Tom in the nuts for three quarters.
Bronx33
11-20-2006, 04:41 PM
Cry me a river........like momma used to say (legal is as legal does)
BigBad
11-20-2006, 04:43 PM
Here you go!!
Clayton on ESPN said he expects NALAN to be fined for lets say ot all togeter, CHEAP SHOT to the knees.
RMANCIL
11-20-2006, 04:45 PM
No I didn't say people haven't gotten hurt, just not as many as people are exclaiming. And get your facts straight. The guy who hit Williams was Foster and he didn't run 20 yrds down field and dive at the guy. He got him on the backside of the line and cut him which looked more like a chop. I didn't like that play either.
You need to get your facts straight it was at least 15 yds down field and from behind. Trying to set some type of number for dirty plays before you consider them a factor in the game is some type of strange justification.
One dirty play is a bunch of Kraut.
This play in question was after the ball had been spiked and was a shot at his knees and wasn't in any way part of the play other than a cheap shot by a dirty player.
The game was all but over the play was over Nalen should be fined and he should have been kicked out of the contest as well.
Rohirrim
11-20-2006, 04:45 PM
Here you go!!
Clayton on ESPN said he expects NALAN to be fined for lets say ot all togeter, CHEAP SHOT to the knees.
Clayton is a pud knocker.
Bronx33
11-20-2006, 04:49 PM
Here you go!!
Clayton on ESPN said he expects NALAN to be fined for lets say ot all togeter, CHEAP SHOT to the knees.
And i remember you admitting defeat before the first half last night (fair weather sob) now you come around.
Ps:Clayton is a doorknob.
theAPAOps5
11-20-2006, 04:49 PM
You need to get your facts straight it was at least 15 yds down field and from behind. Trying to set some type of number for dirty plays before you consider them a factor in the game is some type of strange justification.
Like I said in another post after that I had my plays mixed up.
theAPAOps5
11-20-2006, 04:51 PM
Here you go!!
Clayton on ESPN said he expects NALAN to be fined for lets say ot all togeter, CHEAP SHOT to the knees.
Oh man that does it. ESPN has proclaimed it dirty, now that the "experts" have spoken we might as well just hack Nalens pinkie off. Man ESPN said it that just makes me shiver. Whoa is me.... WHOA IS ME
BigBad
11-20-2006, 04:52 PM
And i remember you admitting defeat before the first half last night (fair weather sob) now you come around.
????
How is this, my only post during the game, admitting defeat?
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?p=1362386#post1362386
Victor
11-20-2006, 04:56 PM
I was surprised at the play. He was the only guy on the line who made an attempt to block, and he went for the knees after a delay after hiking.
With that said, I don't think that he really tried to take him out, but he was sending a message, however confusing it might be.
If this happenned to a Broncos d-lineman everyone here would be pissed, so let's not pretend it wasn't a suspect move, because in my opinion it was.
Bronx33
11-20-2006, 04:57 PM
????
How is this, my only post during the game, admitting defeat?
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?p=1362386#post1362386
This was posted (right after) the broncos were owning your team.......
If you guys dont win with our defense depleted like it is it would be sad.
Making excuses before the game was even over.
RMANCIL
11-20-2006, 05:00 PM
Cry me a river........like momma used to say (legal is as legal does)
What goes around comes around as well. Best thing about the night was Shanahans having zero faith in the Defense vs the Charger Offense and going for it on his side of the 50 with 3 minutes and all of his time outs.
The Donkeys were owned last night , and now the nation will see what a class act your team is on the field of play.
I can't wait for the Donkeys to come to S.D. when our defense is healthy you guys won't score 10 points.
LT should rack up 6 TD against that defense and Igor will crush Nalen like the punk deserves.
BigBad
11-20-2006, 05:00 PM
Ill buy that it was "making excuses," but I never admitted defeat. Stick to your original point.
If anything I was foreshadowing your pitiful collapse at our hands. ROFL!
Bronco LB 59
11-20-2006, 05:05 PM
This thread just inspired myself to get an early start on the Tom Nalen Hall of Fame campaign.
Bronx33
11-20-2006, 05:08 PM
Ill buy that it was "making excuses," but I never admitted defeat. Stick to your original point.
If anything I was foreshadowing your pitiful collapse at our hands. ROFL!
Ok sure your boys earned it (i never took that away) but your 1 game winning streak just started don't let your head get to big, if you remember marty just about did his best to give the game back to us. To bad jake was to stupid to take advantage of it but the fact is your coach is marty (and he will fu** it up again) just like he always does.
Good luck from here out iam rooting for you guys in the AFC (f*** the colts)
Ps: Nice jr high smack talk
BigBad
11-20-2006, 05:09 PM
Agree there **** the colts.
Bronx33
11-20-2006, 05:10 PM
What goes around comes around as well. Best thing about the night was Shanahans having zero faith in the Defense vs the Charger Offense and going for it on his side of the 50 with 3 minutes and all of his time outs.
The Donkeys were owned last night , and now the nation will see what a class act your team is on the field of play.
I can't wait for the Donkeys to come to S.D. when our defense is healthy you guys won't score 10 points.
LT should rack up 6 TD against that defense and Igor will crush Nalen like the punk deserves.
Fine! now quit crying about it! you will not hear me cry like a baby over a legal block (marty ripped his a**) for a reason ya know.
Bronco_Beerslug
11-20-2006, 05:11 PM
Nalen is going to be fined is what Clayton said on NFL live. It was a spike play and I have no idea what he thought he was doing, definitely not kosher.
boltssbbound
11-20-2006, 05:24 PM
Jake Bummer. You stayed up last night thinking of that one - didn't you! You Chiefs fans are so witty and smart.
Jake Bummer!
See, the Bummer part rhymes with Plummer. Bummer. Plummer. See? And then - and this part is pure genius - there's something of a double entendre with Bummer. On one side, "bum" is slang for butt, or the nethermost region of the human body. So you have that, which would be hilarious by itself. But then Bummer is sort of a negative exclamatory phrase. "Bummer, man!" Like that! I mean, it takes awhile to let it sink in, and it's sort of high brow. But when you get it, it gets a laugh going deep in your belly and it just erupts. You know what I mean? It erupts!
Seriously, man - I have a buddy that puts on a comedy hour on the television. You should talk with him. He's always looking for talent. Right now, it's just on the local cable community channel. But it's up to almost 100 listeners, and it's going to be HUGE! PM me with your email, and I'll put him in touch with you.
You don't like that one? How about Jake "I'm keeping Nalen's ass warm for you Jay" Plummer?
or Jake "My game stinks worse than John Goodman's" Plummer.
Or how about:
Ja-ake Plummer, that's his name...
And away goes the Donks' season down the drain.
boltssbbound
11-20-2006, 05:26 PM
This thread just inspired myself to get an early start on the Tom Nalen Hall of Fame campaign.
Good luck with that one. Hilarious!
You must really enjoy backing losers.
RMANCIL
11-20-2006, 05:28 PM
Fine! now quit crying about it! you will not hear me cry like a baby over a legal block (marty ripped his a**) for a reason ya know.
No you seem to want to simply dismiss the cheap shot as being legal , I don't think it was legal it appears to have taken place after the whistle and it certainly was unnecessary.
So either it was a late hit ( after the whistle ) or unnecessary roughness.
Any deliberate attempt to injure a player is dirty football and you seem to take joy in it which makes me think that your a bit of a low life yourself.
Schottenheimer was right in that IGOR can't react in that fashion as the results could have cost the team . That said Marty sure did not endorse Nalen and that cheap shot type of play.
Most fans , coaches or player who have ever played the game would not endorse it. Only low life cheap shot artist would.
Iowanian
11-20-2006, 05:29 PM
all I know is if this is legal, and PlummINT goes to spike a ball thursday night, I hope a DT Submarines Nalen and a couple of blitzing LB/Safeties come over the top and crush the QB.
....just playing to the whistle and all...finishing the play.
Just don't hurt PlummINT though.....we want him to stay in.
Bronco LB 59
11-20-2006, 05:31 PM
Good luck with that one. Hilarious!
You must really enjoy backing losers.
Nick Hardwick will be fortunate if he lives up to a 1/3 of Nalen's career.
boltssbbound
11-20-2006, 05:33 PM
Nick Hardwick will be fortunate if he lives up to a 1/3 of Nalen's career.
Saying he's better than Hardwick is not something I'll disagree with. But Hall of Fame? No.
BigBad
11-20-2006, 05:34 PM
Nalan would be in the Dirty players Hall of Shame with a bunch of Raiders.
Bronx33
11-20-2006, 05:37 PM
No you seem to want to simply dismiss the cheap shot as being legal , I don't think it was legal it appears to have taken place after the whistle and it certainly was unnecessary.
So either it was a late hit ( after the whistle ) or unnecessary roughness.
Any deliberate attempt to injure a player is dirty football and you seem to take joy in it which makes me think that your a bit of a low life yourself.
Schottenheimer was right in that IGOR can't react in that fashion as the results could have cost the team . That said Marty sure did not endorse Nalen and that cheap shot type of play.
Most fans , coaches or player who have ever played the game would not endorse it. Only low life cheap shot artist would.
Read my posts! i didn't endorse it! i simply said quit slingin snot about it! now lets assume Igor doesn't throw a barrage of punches, do the refs or did the refs call nalen for a PF? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm your opinion on the subject don't mean squat.
Bronx33
11-20-2006, 05:39 PM
Nalan would be in the Dirty players Hall of Shame with a bunch of Raiders.
And your boyfriend takes you from behind. ;D
Bronco LB 59
11-20-2006, 05:40 PM
Saying he's better than Hardwick is not something I'll disagree with. But Hall of Fame? No.
Nalen is a long-shot, but he does have a case being the anchor of the NFL's finest rushing attack over the past decade, a five time Pro Bowler and an integral part of two Super Bowl championship teams.
Hotrod
11-20-2006, 05:45 PM
I've skipped thru most of this thread but heres my 2 cents.
It was total Bull**** what nails did. I would love to find out there is more to the story. Hey Im as big a homer as they come but if I was that Igor dude I'd have F'd up nails.
theAPAOps5
11-20-2006, 05:46 PM
Nalan would be in the Dirty players Hall of Shame with a bunch of Raiders.
What would you say about Rodney Harrison. Just asking, he spent a big amount of time as a Charger. Its one think for us fans to label dirty players but its another thing when fellow players label him the dirtiest player.
Don't say well he doesn't play hear other because Charger fans keep bringing up Saubraun and Romo the Homo who have left Denver as well.
Nalen will be in the Hall of Fame he has 2 SB rings and played on some of the great Denver Broncos teams.
BigBad
11-20-2006, 05:57 PM
And your boyfriend takes you from behind. ;D
Tuff for you to keep it football related with all those homosexual thoughts huh?
boltssbbound
11-20-2006, 06:03 PM
http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9606522/1
Stormontheplains
11-20-2006, 06:03 PM
I was getting autographs after the game, nalen rolled out about 11:30 there were only 4 people, I asked him what happend, he said Jake gave the play call without the spike color, he just went after it. By the way is it not legal to hit below the waist in the trenches when the defensive player is not engaged by another player?
Bronx33
11-20-2006, 06:07 PM
Tuff for you to keep it football related with all those homosexual thoughts huh?
Ahh since you were frontrunning i thought i would have fun with ya (and iam )
Hotrod
11-20-2006, 06:07 PM
I was getting autographs after the game, nalen rolled out about 11:30 there were only 4 people, I asked him what happend, he said Jake gave the play call without the spike color, he just went after it. By the way is it not legal to hit below the waist in the trenches when the defensive player is not engaged by another player?
See I freaking knew that somehow someway this was Jakes fault.
Damn letting Jake continue to control our O is like letting the retarded kid next door have the keys to your car. Sure you can put bumper pads on it and make sure it goes no more then 15 mph but the retard and Jake will both f*** **** up anyway.
Bronx33
11-20-2006, 06:09 PM
http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9606522/1
http://www.internetcash.com/en/images/baby-crying.jpg
boltssbbound
11-20-2006, 06:14 PM
I was getting autographs after the game, nalen rolled out about 11:30 there were only 4 people, I asked him what happend, he said Jake gave the play call without the spike color, he just went after it. By the way is it not legal to hit below the waist in the trenches when the defensive player is not engaged by another player?
Not after the play is over.
Besides when has a center ever cut a nosetackle on a pass play? You might cut the end if it's a quick slant or flare to the running back. But I've never seen a center dive at a NT's knees on a pass play.
Also, Nalen dove two yards passed the line of scrimmage at Igor's knees. If it was a pass play, Nalen was illegally downfield.
He threw the cheap shot at Igor in the hopes Igor would retaliate. He's not going to admit to it. But that's what he did.
Hotrod
11-20-2006, 06:16 PM
Not after the play is over.
Besides when has a center ever cut a nosetackle on a pass play? You might cut the end if it's a quick slant or flare to the running back. But I've never seen a center dive at a NT's knees on a pass play.
Also, Nalen also dove two yards passed the line of scrimmage at Igor's knees. If it was a pass play, Nalen was illegally downfield.
He threw the cheap shot at Igor in the hopes Igor would retaliate. He's not going to admit to it. But that's what he did.
Hate to agree but another thing about that story that makes no sense. If Jake screwed up then why did 9 other guys not start blocking???
Bronx33
11-20-2006, 06:16 PM
God Has Spoken!
theAPAOps5
11-20-2006, 06:17 PM
Not after the play is over.
Besides when has a center ever cut a nosetackle on a pass play? You might cut the end if it's a quick slant or flare to the running back. But I've never seen a center dive at a NT's knees on a pass play.
Also, Nalen also dove two yards passed the line of scrimmage at Igor's knees. If it was a pass play, Nalen was illegally downfield.
He threw the cheap shot at Igor in the hopes Igor would retaliate. He's not going to admit to it. But that's what he did.
Yeah and he did it in a way where he didn't hurt the guy and got what he wanted a 15 yarder. If Nalen wanted to intentially hurt Igor we would not be arguing about how he could have hurt him but how he did hurt him. Still don't condone it though.
watermock
11-20-2006, 06:21 PM
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Bronco LB 59
11-20-2006, 06:22 PM
Broncomaniacs
I just told my friend who designs shirts to make some tees for the San Diego road game. These shirts will have a graphic of Tom Nalen cutting Igor Olshansky and the caption will read, "STAY DOWN BITCH!" PM me if you're interested in one.
boltssbbound
11-20-2006, 06:33 PM
Broncomaniacs
I just told my friend who designs shirts to make some tees for the San Diego road game. These shirts will have a graphic of Tom Nalen cutting Igor Olshansky and the caption will read, "STAY DOWN b****!" PM me if you're interested in one.
Yeah, let me know if you do that. I'll invite you to come show them off at the tailgater I attend. We'll give you a warm welcome.
Bronco LB 59
11-20-2006, 07:07 PM
Yeah, let me know if you do that. I'll invite you to come show them off at the tailgater I attend. We'll give you a warm welcome.
My knees are shaking. That game will practically be a Broncos home game like it always is.
boltssbbound
11-20-2006, 07:09 PM
My knees are shaking. That game will practically be a Broncos home game like it always is.
Sure it will tough guy. You want to act like a punk, you'll be treated like one.
You want to come in and be cool, you'll be allowed to sit in peace and watch your team get spanked again.
Your choice.
Garcia Bronco
11-20-2006, 07:24 PM
I'm moving this to the butt because of the garbage people are spewing at each other. If another mod wants to move it back then great...otherwise....talk about doing mean crap to each other over in the butt.
Bronco LB 59
11-20-2006, 07:31 PM
Sure it will tough guy. You want to act like a punk, you'll be treated like one.
You want to come in and be cool, you'll be allowed to sit in peace and watch your team get spanked again.
Your choice.
You're the one who can't appreciate a win and be classy about it. Your team won the game, what more do you want?
The t-shirt post was "tongue in cheek" for all the lame self righteous trolls on this thread.
Football is a violent game. Get over it. Denver is not the only NFL team that has been involved in questionable on-field tactics. Your team deserved the victory. Props to you guys, but don't come in here and tell us to have a guilt trip over one incident.
Hugga Bunch
11-20-2006, 07:42 PM
Can I get one of those shirts in XXXXL? I'm only 5'9" 135, but my wife is 6'6" 360lbs. She kinda' looks like Toniu Fonoti, so she won't have any trouble wearing that shirt into Qualcomm. We'll even attend that tailgater... thanks for the offer. I eat only fish tacos when I'm San Diego, but she'll chow down whatever you have!:thumbsup:
boltssbbound
11-21-2006, 11:38 AM
You're the one who can't appreciate a win and be classy about it. Your team won the game, what more do you want?
The t-shirt post was "tongue in cheek" for all the lame self righteous trolls on this thread.
Football is a violent game. Get over it. Denver is not the only NFL team that has been involved in questionable on-field tactics. Your team deserved the victory. Props to you guys, but don't come in here and tell us to have a guilt trip over one incident.
Hey, I would have been more than happy to let it go if you Donk weenies would stop defending the guy. Just nut up and admit it was cheap.
Excuse me, if I still have a little residual anger toward your cheap shotting O-line for injuring Jamal Williams in 2002. One of the cheapest shots of all time.
Spider
11-21-2006, 09:04 PM
man , what a bunch of sissys ....... so Nalen went for Egors .err Igor , hell with it Frankienstiens assistants kness , BFD , it is football ladies , there is no crying in football , man up , next week is another game .......... ****ing poosys
Boltjolt
11-21-2006, 11:51 PM
man , what a bunch of sissys ....... so Nalen went for Egors .err Igor , hell with it Frankienstiens assistants kness , BFD , it is football ladies , there is no crying in football , man up , next week is another game .......... ****ing poosys
Easy to se why you have 45,000+ posts when you post crap like this
I prefer quality over quanity.
Spider
11-22-2006, 12:10 AM
Easy to se why you have 45,000+ posts when you post crap like this
I prefer quality over quanity.
I dont give a damn what you like or think ...........
Boltjolt
11-22-2006, 12:13 AM
I dont give a damn what you like or think ...........
Pretty obvious since your post was crap and you bothered to reply....adding yet another number to your post count.
BTW smartguy...it is against the rules to go after another players knees....hence the big fine , but thanks for your great take on the matter Uhh
Spider
11-22-2006, 12:22 AM
Pretty obvious since your post was crap and you bothered to reply....adding yet another number to your post count.
BTW smartguy...it is against the rules to go after another players knees....hence the big fine , but thanks for your great take on the matter Uhh
I am so hurt ......give me a minute here ..........ok I am all better ...... now stop crying , move on
theAPAOps5
11-22-2006, 12:34 AM
He went for his Quadriceps not his knee, gawsh! His helmet clearly hit his thigh not his knee.
Spider
11-22-2006, 12:39 AM
He went for his Quadriceps not his knee, gawsh! His helmet clearly hit his thigh not his knee.
damn bolts fan , if it wernt for the commentators he would have known the offense from the defense........ what Nails did wasnt against the rules , but in the NFL eyes it was dirty , D men are taught to handle cut blocks , Igor got his man diaper wet beacuse he didnt use his hands to stop nails on a spike play .......... Igor is more to blame for taking the play off ..............
Boltjolt
11-22-2006, 02:25 AM
damn bolts fan , if it wernt for the commentators he would have known the offense from the defense........ what Nails did wasnt against the rules , but in the NFL eyes it was dirty , D men are taught to handle cut blocks , Igor got his man diaper wet beacuse he didnt use his hands to stop nails on a spike play .......... Igor is more to blame for taking the play off ..............
Yep, he did nothing wrong. Thats why he got fined $25,000 and our guy who hit him in the head afterwards got fined less than half that.
As for DL being taught to handle cut blocks....your own team held your own DL out of practices(according to former DL of yours Reggie Hayward in this writeup (http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9606522/1) ) with your OL because they didnt want to hurt their own guys because it is dangerous.
The only teams that run that type of blocking scheme are yours and teams with your former coaches like Atlanta and Houston.
Cut blocking isnt against the rules...yet, but deliberately going for a players knees is and he was in plain sight for all to see.
Call it want you want homer, but he got caught and he has the rep for a dirty player already.
Spider
11-22-2006, 02:56 AM
Yep, he did nothing wrong. Thats why he got fined $25,000 and our guy who hit him in the head afterwards got fined less than half that.
As for DL being taught to handle cut blocks....your own team held your own DL out of practices(according to former DL of yours Reggie Hayward in this writeup (http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9606522/1) ) with your OL because they didnt want to hurt their own guys because it is dangerous.
The only teams that run that type of blocking scheme are yours and teams with your former coaches like Atlanta and Houston.
Cut blocking isnt against the rules...yet, but deliberately going for a players knees is and he was in plain sight for all to see.
Call it want you want homer, but he got caught and he has the rep for a dirty player already.
it wasnt against the rules , Nails should appeal , but whats funny is you guys crying like this cause your boy got lazy and took a play off ..............No crying in football son....oh and nancy boy Green bay , all NFL teams cut , we just happen to be damn good at it
theAPAOps5
11-22-2006, 03:37 AM
I just hope it happens again December 10th I can't get enough of Igor looking like the pansie he is. Charger fans keep bringing up how he punched Nalen like he was beating him down. The dude punched like a girl. Isn't one of the side effects of steroids the increase in estrogen? Explains a lot as Igor has to be getting b**tch tits and a mangina
BroncoBuff
11-22-2006, 02:33 PM
I bleed orange ... but even I know it was dirty. C'mon, it was a kneel-down!
(It was double-dirty if Olshansky really just had knee surgery)
theAPAOps5
11-22-2006, 02:46 PM
I bleed orange ... but even I know it was dirty. C'mon, it was a kneel-down!
(It was double-dirty if Olshansky really just had knee surgery)
No I agree it was dirty even if Nalen was just trying to bait him. Never know what can happen. Its fun to get a rise out of people too. People take forums so serious sometimes.
thumper300zx
11-22-2006, 04:46 PM
it wasnt against the rules , Nails should appeal , but whats funny is you guys crying like this cause your boy got lazy and took a play off ..............No crying in football son....oh and nancy boy Green bay , all NFL teams cut , we just happen to be damn good at it
Man -- you guys just don't know when to give up a stupid argument. Look, the NFL and EVERY OTHER NFL fan (even plenty of Denver fans) have ruled against Nalen on this one. Chargers didn't give up on the play -- the Broncos ended the play by spiking. It was over. Not rushing on the play is football "ettiquette", something Nalen obvious knows nothing about. It should've been unsportsmanlike conduct.
And be very very very scared, my orange friends -- THIS incident you are apparently so proud of could very well be the last string for these cheap shot blocks your OL depends on. The NFL has spoken with a $25,000 fine that no one is going to be able to talk them out of. You wonder why there is such an RB controversy in Denver all the time? Any RB that is good enough to be drafted into the NFL can run with a line that's playing like this -- you might have to learn to play fooseball in a sportsmanlike way by next year!
The entire NFL is against this kind of crap -- KC fans are on the side of SD, and so is everyone else. Everyone that made a "reaction" judgement when it happened has reviewed the tapes and now feels differently -- I know you do to, but it just hurts to swallow. Pansies. Take it like men...it's o.k. to be wrong sometimes.
Billy Clyde Puckett
11-22-2006, 04:53 PM
Didn't TJ set a quota on the number of morons that could join the Mane?
RMANCIL
11-22-2006, 04:59 PM
Didn't TJ set a quota on the number of morons that could join the Mane?
Based on most of what I have read on the thread if their is a quota I am willing to bet it was exceeded a long time ago.
RMANCIL
11-22-2006, 05:02 PM
Broncomaniacs
I just told my friend who designs shirts to make some tees for the San Diego road game. These shirts will have a graphic of Tom Nalen cutting Igor Olshansky and the caption will read, "STAY DOWN b****!" PM me if you're interested in one.
Class act all the way. Funny Nalen was the player on the ground getting the **** kicked out of him so I think it is a great idea be sure and wear it to S.D.
!Booya!
theAPAOps5
11-22-2006, 06:05 PM
Just ignore RMANCIL he won't stop. Seriously ignore him.
RMANCIL
11-23-2006, 05:33 AM
Just ignore RMANCIL he won't stop. Seriously ignore him.
Please follow your own advise. Tell me again what the word "hypercrit" means.
Spider
11-23-2006, 10:01 AM
I bleed orange ... but even I know it was dirty. C'mon, it was a kneel-down!
(It was double-dirty if Olshansky really just had knee surgery)
Dirty ? maybe , but from pop Warner all the way up to the Pros , you are taught protect yourself at all times .... Igor took a play off , found out that you should protect yourself at all times ....... Remember that hit Sapp laid on Clifton ? same thing Clifton wasnt protecting himself ..... paid the price .........
Spider
11-23-2006, 10:06 AM
Man -- you guys just don't know when to give up a stupid argument. Look, the NFL and EVERY OTHER NFL fan (even plenty of Denver fans) have ruled against Nalen on this one. Chargers didn't give up on the play -- the Broncos ended the play by spiking. It was over. Not rushing on the play is football "ettiquette", something Nalen obvious knows nothing about. It should've been unsportsmanlike conduct.
And be very very very scared, my orange friends -- THIS incident you are apparently so proud of could very well be the last string for these cheap shot blocks your OL depends on. The NFL has spoken with a $25,000 fine that no one is going to be able to talk them out of. You wonder why there is such an RB controversy in Denver all the time? Any RB that is good enough to be drafted into the NFL can run with a line that's playing like this -- you might have to learn to play fooseball in a sportsmanlike way by next year!
The entire NFL is against this kind of crap -- KC fans are on the side of SD, and so is everyone else. Everyone that made a "reaction" judgement when it happened has reviewed the tapes and now feels differently -- I know you do to, but it just hurts to swallow. Pansies. Take it like men...it's o.k. to be wrong sometimes.
LOL Last chance for cut blocks ? you freakin sissy , it happens to a charger player now the NFL will ban it ........ Hilarious! as if anyone gives a damn about that piss poor football program ......NFL fines bronco players all the time , pretty used to it by now ......#1 victim is Lynch , and he is no where near a Rodney Harrision when Harrision was a charger ..........
and is take it like a man a gay code in San diego ? I have heard stories about you people
