Jake MUST sit. LOSER!

[ScottXray]

Plummer just threw the pick that lost the division championship.

Less than 50% pass completions, no long passes at all (almost threw three picks long though) and no ability to MOVE the team against a depleted secondary and under hardly any pressure.


I have had it with this guy. He has sucked all year but I kept hoping he could turn it around.

Bad Jake played agianst us tonight.

Start Cutler now. Plummer hasn't got it anymore.

[cabronco]

Most of us know this. We new this weeks ago. I just hope its not too late.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Shanahan lost this game.

[shakenbake]

Nobody won or loss anything today other than the game. the sky is falling the sky is falling.

[Dukes]

Sadly........... I agree

[eddie mac]

What a dumbass bunch of players we have. They all suck balls.

[eddie mac]

What are you laughing at Jake you bastard???

[frerottenextelway]

Shanahan lost this game.

Hard to look like a good coach when you have THAT as your starting QB.

Plummer is embarrasing. I'm ashamed that he's my starting quarterback.

[Malcontent]

Jake sucks!

[eddie mac]

Fvck we're at the SD 32 with 24 secs left.

[Spider]

Plummer fumbles

[Spider]

Plummer fumbles

[Kaylore]

13/28 for 183 yards. So many times the receivers beat their man and so many times Jake played like ass. I hope that this loss forces the switch. I pray that it does, actually. Every phase of the game was showing up, even our retarded special teams made some plays. Darrent Williams was picked on again, but at least he made them pay for it once.

Jake lost this game. That's just the way it is.

[orangeatheist]

We just don't have it.

The Indy game and now this.

Feels like the air's been knocked out of me.

We couldn't take care of these teams at home. What does that say?

What happened to that monster defense we had earlier this year? If that D was still playing, even with Jake screwing it up out there, we would have won this game, and the Indy one. But, for some ungodly (no pun intended) reason, a mediocre defense has been taking the field. Nothing like the stone wall that was out there earlier.

I'll say it again. If we can't take these teams down at home, we don't have what it takes.

But I will say, if this loss leaves as bad a taste in the team's mouth as it has mine, I feel sorry for KC on Thanksgiving. And I hate KC so much that I really hope Denver just beats up on them and takes all our collective frustration out on the Qweefs.

Jebus, I'm pissed off.

[BlaK-Argentina]

**** **** **** and ****.

This SUCKS. I'm pissed beyond belief. That's it for Plummer. I've had it. I know he wasn't the ONLY reason why we lost today but we HAVE to start Cutler next week. I don't think we're going anywhere this year anyway. Not after this loss.

So yeah, bench Jake. Thank him for all the wins he's gave us the last few years and START JAY.

[ScottXray]

Play selection was really bad tonight...the run was working and Shanny kept dropping Jake back...No rollouts, no boots. Except the last roll to the left that Jake fumbled on.

Shanahan blew it by believing that Plummer was our best shot at winning!

Even the throws he made were mostly awful. The pass that Javon caught in the fourth (the one that Marty challenged) Javon had his man beat and Jake underthreww it. Walker made a hell of a catch....Jake didn't make a great throw like Madden kept saying.

This guy (Jake ) is hurtung this teams chances.....not improving them.

Hell the defense gave the O a pick six tonight...and they still only got 28 points total on the board.

some people are gonna blame the D and thye have their share.

But Jake and Shanny should get the bulk of the blame!

I only hope shanny finally sees the light and Jake is all done.

[bloodsunday]

On a 3 day week you wanna play a rookie at Arrowhead? Stupid.

[Que]

Jesus I am pissed. I haven't been this pissed after a broncos game in forever. Idiots!

Shanny - what an idiot. First, bench Plummer, 'nuff said. Second, you freaking blew two posssessions trying to throw home run balls in the second half. WTF?!?!?!

Plummer - thank you very much now sit down. Christ, Shanny's fixation on the guy is like his love affair with Griese!

Who ever the hell is the special team's coach - your head on a platter right the f*** now a**hole.

Coyer - I dunno what you were smoking but I hope you enjoyed it.

WE HAD THEM! We were owning them. We let them have this game through idiocy. That's it. I'm done with Plummer. I've suppot the guy since the get go but playing with him is a liability.

Dammit Shanny, pull your head our of your a**.

[budman]

jake is the worst he is a joke kiss the season goodbye if they do not put cutler in I would rather have my high school qb then jake jake the mistake sucks and what happened to the defense and shanny good call not to punt

[Rigs11]

hahhahahah. Take the blinders off. Our D played like shet today too. 5 touchdowns?hahahahahaha. Let's bench them too. Hell let's bench Shanny for his ridicoulous play calling on that 2nd to last drive.

[-Slap-]

Whatever happens happens. It doesn't really matter anymore.

We've come this far, we might as well let Jake kick dirt on the rest of the season, too. We'll be that much further up the draft board in April.

[Hotwheelz]

Cutler can do that. After KC Plummer is benched and JC has 1 week and a half to prepare.

[titan]

Plummer missed open receivers all night. One of the worst was on the crucial 3rd down late in the 4th quarter where he overthrew a wide open Marshall (Marshall almost made a 1 handed catch).

I've never been a Plummer basher but he's playing his worst football as a Bronco this year. Bring on Cutler. I don't care how inexperienced Cutler is he has got to be a more accurate passer than Jake.

[mosca]

Plummer just threw the pick that lost the division championship.

Less than 50% pass completions, no long passes at all (almost threw three picks long though) and no ability to MOVE the team against a depleted secondary and under hardly any pressure.
Where were the three picks long that he almost threw? I saw a few long passes go incomplete but none nearly picked... Jake played like crap tonite... the fumbled snap on 3rd down was key, as was the pick. I wasn't too high on the playcalling either though, the QB draw play on 2nd down in the redzone was a reach. O well. Very tough loss.

[Lebronco]

Jake Mistake is sooooo bad. JayC needs some regular season games under his belt before the playoffs. Now is the time pleasssssssssssssssse!!!!!!!
Is the mastemind seeing what we see??? Surely Shanny sees the crap that Jake is slinging.

[dbfan4life]

Thank you Jake...for giving up 28 pts. in the second half. You just lost the AFC West for us.

[Popps]

Plummer was awful.

That said, when you can't hold on to a 24-7 2nd half lead, you're not going anywhere, anyway.

Whatever Shanahan does at this point is fine with me. Our defense was exposed, yet again.

Tonight was a total melt-down on both sides of the ball. The running game was great. Plummer was horrible and the defense was an absolute joke.

[mosca]

Plummer missed open receivers all night. One of the worst was on the crucial 3rd down late in the 4th quarter where he overthrew a wide open Marshall (Marshall almost made a 1 handed catch).

That ball wasn't too far in front of Marshall... I think it was definitely catchable. A worse overthrow would be when on, I think it was 1st down, he overthrew one into the endzone that Javon simply couldn't reach and bring down.

[HEAV]

First off a big F*ck off to all you experts that want to blame Jake for this lose.

It's the great mastermind, that went and got the cheap Browns DL, fault this team can't get a pass rush. It's his allowing of Coyer to cover LT with Ekuban (one of the Browns DL) or have any DL drop into coverage.

Mike has nickle and dimed this DL for the past 4 years. Letting studs like Berry leave and passing on big dollar free agents and not drafting a DL in round one.

Great defense's get to the QB.

But ya it's all Jake's fault that the Broncos blew a 17 ponit lead. It's Jake fault the DL can't even touch the QB.


Ya it's Jakes fault we haven't a stud RB and real homerun hitter.

It's Jake's fault Shanny can't call a game anymore.

4th Down plays........

No bootlegs......

Where's the TE?.........

Al WIlson can't cover............

Ya starting Jay would fix all that.

F#ck you all. You make me sick with all your "We need to start Jay" talk.

What they needed to do was get a DE that scares QB and a real running back.

[TheDave]

It is what it is guys... I'm as sick of watching plummer as everyone else. Problem is Shanahan has decided to sit Cutler for the year. It's my opinion that Jake could go out there and throw 5 picks and lose 2 more fumbles and Shanahan would still start him the next week. Unless the team is begining to turn on Plummer (how they could not be I'll never know) there is no way a switch is made.

[DivineLegion]

Ive been backing Jake and now resign from my position...The offense is lathargic with two of the better WRs in the League, our Running game was going, and if we lose to KC this weekend we can kiss our chances at the playoffs goodbye! **** Jake...Thanks for the plays and the memories but we can try our best to relocate your hot GF with you when you leave. Oh! and Jake...DONT LET THE DOOR HIT YOU ON YOUR WAY OUT

[DivineLegion]

Ive been backing Jake and now resign from my position...The offense is lathargic with two of the better WRs in the League, our Running game was going, and if we lose to KC this weekend we can kiss our chances at the playoffs goodbye! **** Jake...Thanks for the plays and the memories but we can try our best to relocate your hot GF with you when you leave. Oh! and Jake...DONT LET THE DOOR HIT YOU ON YOUR WAY OUT

[Dedhed]

hahhahahah. Take the blinders off. Our D played like shet today too. 5 touchdowns?hahahahahaha. Let's bench them too. Hell let's bench Shanny for his ridicoulous play calling on that 2nd to last drive.

You mean the D that scored more points than the offense in the 2nd half? That's the defense you're referring to, correct? Hold on tight Rigsy, it's gonna get rough for you apologists in the next couple of weeks.

[SprintRightOption]

Plummer just threw the pick that lost the division championship.

I didn't realize they cancelled the rest of the season. I guess there's no reason to watch the Broncos' next 6 games.

That pick was on 4th down and nobody was open. They were getting the ball either way.

Backbreaking fumble by Plummer? It wasn't even a turnover, it was 3rd and long. A 4 point fumble at worst, and we lost by 8.

Plummer played bad in a big game for the first time all year. He deserves blame, as does the defense for giving up 28 points in the 2nd half, as does the Special Teams, they sure are "special", especially Sapp diving for a kickoff ball at the 2 when no Charger was within 15 yards.

Great job all around, Broncos. Our supposedly elite defense just gave up touchdowns on the Chargers' last 4 drives of the game. Plummer throwing a bunch of bad passes and fumbling lamely after Meadows' man abused him on the last play. Very unclutch on both sides of the ball, which is unusual this year.

Of course for the next 3 days this place will be overwhelmed with people blaming Plummer only. Some of you deserve how you feel right now for the way you act. Since you all have given up on the season, take a ****ing hike and don't watch the Broncos anymore this season.

As for me, I think we are going to win in KC on Turkey Day, because we haven't lost 2 straight games in 23 months and bounce back well (pittsburgh game anyone). Plummer will have a few 3 and outs and will be attacked again. Rinse and repeat.

[troya900]

13/28 for 183 yards. So many times the receivers beat their man and so many times Jake played like ass. I hope that this loss forces the switch. I pray that it does, actually. Every phase of the game was showing up, even our retarded special teams made some plays. Darrent Williams was picked on again, but at least he made them pay for it once.

Jake lost this game. That's just the way it is.


Yup, I agree. It's easy to sit back and say defense, defense, defense about tonights game, but guess what the defense scored more points than the offense did in the second half. Plumber has to pick his play up and he simply has not. Most of the scoring drives were due to the running game working well and then when the run stalled so did the drive. Plumber never came through. I'm so sick of the guy he relies on catches like Javons circus sideline catch to even put up yardage it's sickening watch Jake control this team and it's sickening to watch what Shanny and the O-Coordinator are doing because of who they have at QB.

[Broncos4tw]

The bootleg wasn't there because there was a defender there most the game ready to wipe the turf with Jake if he tried it. The toss to our RB was an example of what would have happened to Jake had he tried to roll out.

Face it.

1. Jake is a HORRIBLE pocket passer.
2. Teams realize this, and are forcing him to throw from the pocket.
3. Our offense now sucks because of this.

Jake was imo, the worst player on our team today. He reeked. per usual.

[freak6]

7-3!

"Jake has made every single play to get us to this record", said Gonzolays.

[-Slap-]

I didn't realize they cancelled the rest of the season. I guess there's no reason to watch the Broncos' next 6 games.

That pick was on 4th down and nobody was open. They were getting the ball either way.

Backbreaking fumble by Plummer? It wasn't even a turnover, it was 3rd and long. A 4 point fumble at worst, and we lost by 8.

Plummer played bad in a big game for the first time all year. He deserves blame, as does the defense for giving up 28 points in the 2nd half, as does the Special Teams, they sure are "special", especially Sapp diving for a kickoff ball at the 2 when no Charger was within 15 yards.

Great job all around, Broncos. Our supposedly elite defense just gave up touchdowns on the Chargers' last 4 drives of the game. Plummer throwing a bunch of bad passes and fumbling lamely after Meadows' man abused him on the last play. Very unclutch on both sides of the ball, which is unusual this year.

Of course for the next 3 days this place will be overwhelmed with people blaming Plummer only. Some of you deserve how you feel right now for the way you act. Since you all have given up on the season, take a ****ing hike and don't watch the Broncos anymore this season.

As for me, I think we are going to win in KC on Turkey Day, because we haven't lost 2 straight games in 23 months and bounce back well (pittsburgh game anyone). Plummer will have a few 3 and outs and will be attacked again. Rinse and repeat.

Go **** yourself, you stupid sonofabitch.

[TheDave]

13/28 for 183 yards.

Not to mention a 53.1 QB rating... Good gawd this guy is hard to watch.

[Que]

Hate to say it but why even bother trying to be a top seed in the playoffs??? We don't have the guy at the helm that we need to win the Super Bowl. Better to sacrife a divisional championship, which we are current in the back f***ing seat for, and get the rook some playing time. Make the change now dammit.

[Taco John]

On a 3 day week you wanna play a rookie at Arrowhead? Stupid.


What's the difference? You think Jake can win in Arrowhead?

[-Slap-]

The funny thing is how many former supporters have completely abandoned Plummer now. More of them see the light every week. For the ones who don't, its not even about Jake anymore. Its about not being able to admit when you're wrong.

[telluride]

On a 3 day week you wanna play a rookie at Arrowhead? Stupid.

On a 3 day week you wanna play Plummer at Arrowhead? Stupid.

[freak6]

Jake lead us to two FGs in the second half. What are you people crying about!!!

He's got moxy!!!

[-Slap-]

13/28 for 183 yards.

Joke chubbed up his numbers against a pure prevent defense on that thrilling final "drive".

Prior to that, he was 10 for 23 for 137 yards.

[Que]

On a 3 day week you wanna play Plummer at Arrowhead? Stupid.

It isn't like we can't get the same performance out of Jay.

Oh, but I am not letting Shanny, Dinger and Coyer off the hook that easily. Dudes, get your crap together. The coaching I saw tonight was pathetic.

[footstepsfrom#27]

The defense gave up some plays tonight, but it's not like Tomlinson, Gates, etc...aren't capable of that against anyone...this is a very good Chargers offensive team we played. As for Fake...well let's just say it like this...Shanny sticking with this Bozo reminds me of some high school kid who has a crush on the prom queen and has a chance at her but decides he's better off not rocking the boat with his homely girlfriend since she's a sure thing and nobody else is apt to try to take her away.

Forget the defense, Shanny, Coyer...all of it. This season is all about one thing and one thing only...letting Cutler marinate long enough to get him on the field and Fake on the bench. Will it happen? I doubt it.

Look on the bright side...we're only 8 months away from seeing the kid finally get his shot. I can't wait.

[TexanBob]

Jake is making it look easy to run his ass out of town. Of course he starts Thursday because you can't give a guy his first start on a short week but, after that, it needs to be Cutler. He can't play any worse than Jake the Mistake. And even if he does, we can chalk it up to a learning process like the Titans and Cardinals are.

[ScottXray]

You're right...Plummer Has stepped up in the big games this year.

Until today.

Today he played to the form he has had MOST of the year...Horrible!

Right again, Jake doesn't play defense. But he can't play offense either I guess, and I thought that the people who "don't get it done" were supposed to be the ones on the bench. So lets start with the most OBVIOUS underachiever on the team. Jake Plummer. Why not let Cutler get a start? Maybe he could surprise us all. And if he doesn't and plays badly at least he has a reason...He IS a rookie...unlike our noodle armed present QB.

Maybe if we had a QB actaully keep drives alive the defense might step up their play late in games too. maybe if the Offense would OUTSCORE a good team for once it wouldn't matter when the Defense gave up some póints.

Plummer Killed drives because HE doesn't execute the plays. There were a lot of plays that he had receivers wide open..but because he can't get through more than two reads he didn't see them. As said..if the running game got stopped, the drives stopped. I have watched his puke for the pre-season and now ten games in the regular season. I haven't called for him to sit down, until today. But he has EARNED the benching he should get.

If Shanny keeps starting him I will be mystified....maybe he's trying to get a higher draft pick to get those DE's we need. Maybe ....but I doubt it.

[labronx]

The result of this season is on Shanahan.

Mike Shanahan sealed the fate of this team in the Presason. It seems like a long time ago now, in a far off land, we were witnessing something really special.

Seriously, I have been watching football since like forever and have never been impressed with a rookie QB as much as I was with Cutler.

I trully believed and know that Cutler would have taken us farther this year than Plummer, it might still be possible, however, that would be a story for the ages. It took me just watching a couple of his Vanderbilt games on this board after we drafted him to realize he was better in all aspects of the game than Plummer, all except, mayber elussiveness.

He has a very strong arm, his throws are extremely accurate and tight, with a smooth deceptive zip on the ball, they remind me allot of Marino's throws. He is a extremely athletic, quicker than what he looks, but what really blew me away, was his poise and coolness IN THE POCKET. He doesn't over do his swagger, in fact it's like a humble confidence, but his pressence when making plays is amazing to me.

Once I seen him play in the preseason, I knew that we where thowing away this season, if he eventually didnt take over. I was hoping he would magically take over after the 4th game, but knew it wasn't going to happen. I dont think MS was expecting the D to play as well as they did the first half of the year, and he defnately did not expect Plummer to play the way he has.

This put him in a very bad bind. I think that the D is starting to get "tired", They carried us more than they ever have in the MS era and are mentally and physically spent as a unit. A huge part of This is due to the ineffectiveness of Plummer. QBs with great talent, make plays no matter what kind of personal changes are going on.

The funny thing is some us of have known this all along, as did MS. He most likely realized this after the KC game.

I would have given Plummer one game after the STL game after that I would have started introducing Cutler in games, eventually letting him take the reigns, once we felt comfortable w/ the change.

As proven again tonight. It never has been about BLAMING the D or #16, it was always been about not having started Cutler.

This decision is what fueled allot of us in the endless discussions, we where pissed off that WE KNEW Cutler made our offense similar to the Elway years and this was only preseason! It was nothing for him.

To him it all comes natural, he was born to play Quaterback, he will go down as one of the best ever. Hopefully the changes we make in 2007 help the team on pass rush, and we dont lose some of our team leaders and vets.

This team would have gone far.. just imagine if Cutler was startinga already about a month ago, he would be really starting to hit his stride in time to make a deep playoff run.

[boltaneer]

Just to chime in here, I watched all the Broncos games in preseason and I know it was just preseason but I was highly impressed with Cutler.

I think we're going to see Rivers vs Cutler for the next decade and those two are going to dominate the division.

[freak6]

Plummer played bad in a big game for the first time all year.

Every game is a big game.

There is no difference between playing terrible vs the Ravens, Raiders, Chiefs, Rams, or Chargers.

They all count the same.

Jake is just to inconsistent. The splits do not lie, as <B> Fontaine</b> showed this week.

Look at the play by play starting after the Chargers answered the Pick 6 with a TD.

Denver Broncos at 05:10

<b>1-10-DEN20 (5:10) J.Plummer pass incomplete deep middle to R.Smith (M.McCree, A.Cromartie).
2-10-DEN20 (5:02) J.Plummer pass incomplete short middle to D.Nash.
3-10-DEN20 (4:57) J.Plummer pass incomplete short middle to D.Nash (D.Robinson). </b>
4-10-DEN20 (4:51) P.Ernster punts 45 yards to SD 35, Center-M.Leach. E.Parker to SD 42 for 7 yards (N.Jackson).

San Diego Chargers at 04:41
1-10-SD42 (4:41) (Shotgun) P.Rivers pass incomplete short right to M.Floyd (C.Bailey).
2-10-SD42 (4:38) (Shotgun) P.Rivers pass short right to M.Floyd to SD 49 for 7 yards (C.Bailey).
3-3-SD49 (4:00) (Shotgun) P.Rivers pass short middle to L.Tomlinson for 51 yards, TOUCHDOWN.
N.Kaeding extra point is GOOD, Center-D.Binn, Holder-M.Scifres.
SD 21 DEN 24, Plays: 3 Yards: 58 Possession: 0:50.


1-10-DEN20 (3:51) M.Bell left tackle to DEN 28 for 8 yards (C.Polk, J.Williams).
2-2-DEN28 (3:12) M.Bell left tackle to DEN 33 for 5 yards (D.Edwards).
1-10-DEN33 (2:33) M.Bell left tackle to DEN 41 for 8 yards (M.McCree).
2-2-DEN41 (1:56) D.Nash up the middle to DEN 41 for no gain (R.Godfrey).
3-2-DEN41 (1:17) D.Nash right tackle to DEN 43 for 2 yards (R.Godfrey).
PENALTY on SD-S.Phillips, Defensive Offside, 5 yards, enforced at DEN 41 - No Play.
1-10-DEN46 (1:03) D.Nash left tackle to DEN 47 for 1 yard (R.Godfrey).
<b>2-9-DEN47 (:26) J.Plummer pass short left to M.Bell to SD 49 for 4 yards (D.Edwards). </b>
Fourth Quarter
Denver Broncos continued...
3-5-SD49 (15:00) M.Bell up the middle to SD 45 for 4 yards (I.Olshansky; R.Bingham).
4-1-SD45 (14:19) M.Bell left end to SD 42 for 3 yards (C.Polk).
1-10-SD42 (13:37) C.Sapp up the middle to SD 41 for 1 yard (C.Polk, D.Edwards).
<b>2-9-SD41 (12:55) J.Plummer pass deep right to J.Walker pushed ob at SD 18 for 23 yards (Q.Jammer). Play Challenged by SD and Upheld. (Timeout #1 by SD.)
1-10-SD18 (12:35) J.Plummer pass incomplete deep right to J.Walker.
2-10-SD18 (12:31) J.Plummer up the middle to SD 15 for 3 yards (J.Cesaire). </b>
4-12-SD20 (11:17) J.Elam 38 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-M.Leach, Holder-J.Plummer.
SD 21 DEN 27, Plays: 14 Yards: 60 Possession: 7:38.

San Diego Chargers at 11:04
1-10-SD45 (11:04) (Shotgun) L.Tomlinson left tackle to DEN 40 for 15 yards (Da.Williams).
1-10-DEN40 (10:21) P.Rivers pass short middle to A.Gates to DEN 24 for 16 yards (A.Wilson).
1-10-DEN24 (9:43) (Shotgun) P.Rivers pass short left to A.Gates to DEN 18 for 6 yards (D.Foxworth; Da.Williams).
2-4-DEN18 (8:55) L.Tomlinson left guard to DEN 17 for 1 yard (D.Veal, E.Dumervil).
3-3-DEN17 (8:13) (Shotgun) P.Rivers pass short left to A.Gates to DEN 7 for 10 yards (J.Lynch).
1-7-DEN7 (7:31) L.Tomlinson left tackle to DEN 5 for 2 yards (A.Wilson).
2-5-DEN5 (6:51) P.Rivers pass short left to V.Jackson for 5 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

1-10-DEN20 (6:45) M.Bell up the middle to DEN 25 for 5 yards (J.Williams, T.Kiel).
2-5-DEN25 (6:09) M.Bell right tackle to DEN 28 for 3 yards (D.Edwards).
3-2-DEN28 (5:25) M.Bell right guard to DEN 32 for 4 yards (S.Cooper; M.Harris).
1-10-DEN32 (4:44) D.Nash right end to DEN 26 for -6 yards (M.Harris).
<b>2-16-DEN26 (4:01) J.Plummer pass short left to D.Nash to DEN 38 for 12 yards (I.Olshansky).
3-4-DEN38 (3:16) J.Plummer pass incomplete deep right to B.Marshall.

4-4-DEN38 (3:10) J.Plummer pass short left intended for R.Smith INTERCEPTED by D.Florence at DEN 46. D.Florence ran ob at DEN 23 for 23 yards. </b>

That was just a terrible pass/read. Once again he locked onto Rod, and never let go.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

If they lose @KC, I don't care how well Jake plays, go with Cutler.

and FTR, that would be the first time I have said Jake should be benched which I'm sure would surprise some people here.

The team proved tonight (again), that they are not built to win in the playoffs. The QB portion was addressed last April, this offseason they have got to find a way to get a pass rush from the DL.

[Gort]

Plummer will have a few 3 and outs and will be attacked again.

he deserves all of the abuse... watching him run this offense is like watching a swimmer trying to swim a race with cinder blocks tied to his ankles.

by my count, here are the offensive series results tonight.

3 and out
3 and out
13 and TD
3 and out
9 and TD
- half -
7 and FG
3 and out
14 and FG
7 and INT
6 and time expires

notice it's either a 3 and out, a long drive for a score, or a TO with him. or in other words, he's either bad, good, or very bad from series to series.

however, 4 series where the offense goes 3 and out is unacceptable in a game. it kills your momentum and gives momentum back to the other side.

personally, i hate the guy and can't wait for him to be gone from here. let him go play for some lame losing franchise like Buffalo, where his constant mistakes can be overlooked more easily.

the no-pressure DL, Coyer's scheme, and Shanahan's play calling all had something to do with the loss, but the single biggest contributor was Jake the Mistake. fumbling and throwing interceptions in pressure situations is not how a veteran QB is supposed to perform in this league.

[freak6]

The INT was on a max protect. I am pretty sure he only had 3 options. Rod on curl, but they played cover 2 with under and over sealed.

I haven't seen what route Javon was running and whether he was open, but I do know this...

Jake doesn't know either...

[Arkie]

It's time to start Cutler. Jake is beyond hope. This is the first time I said this.

[bombquixote]

BLAH BLAH BLAH....Just imagine if Cutler was startinga already about a month ago, he would be really starting to hit his stride in time to make a deep playoff run.

Then we'd probably be 5-5.

I know, ya'll must vent. Hard loss. Plummer played like sh!t today, and finally I'm with you, it's time to start Cutler. There's nothing Jake's doing that Cutler can't do...That includes throwing game-killing interceptions late in the fourth, which he WILL do, no matter how talented he is, just because he's a rookie. But yes, it's time, because putting him in now won't hurt us any more than Jake already is.

Understand, though, it won't make any difference. Not until we improve the D-line, find someone besides Javon to throw the ball at and upgrade at safety. I mean c'mon, 28 points in the second half? At home? This year's team is good enough to make the playoffs, but not good enough to win in the playoffs, Cutler or no Cutler.

[Orange4Life]

This game sucked ass. The whole team and coaching staff share responsibility for this loss. Ekuban on LT was just about the worst defensive play call I have ever seen. Maybe Coyer is losing it in his old age. I've backed Plummer so far but I'm ready for the kid now. Cutler can at least to everything Jake did tonight. Our defense is an over-rated joke.

(Before anyone gets to excited I'm not Jake, "Orange 4 Life".)

[Rigs11]

You mean the D that scored more points than the offense in the 2nd half? That's the defense you're referring to, correct? Hold on tight Rigsy, it's gonna get rough for you apologists in the next couple of weeks.

yep i'm also talking about that D that gave up 35 points, 28 in the second half. You better hold on tight as well. it seems you're gonna get your wish. i predict Shanny will start Cutler. maybe it's for the better.Then you will realize that our D still sucks when we play quality opponents and our special teams are atrocious.But hey Cutler will fix all that with his rocket arm...

[Dedhed]

yep i'm also talking about that D that gave up 35 points, 28 in the second half. You better hold on tight as well. it seems you're gonna get your wish. i predict Shanny will start Cutler. maybe it's for the better.Then you will realize that our D still sucks when we play quality opponents and our special teams are atrocious.But hey Cutler will fix all that with his rocket arm...

It's not going to get rough for me because I expect Cutler to struggle, and I have no delusions about the defense. I can even handle him being worse than Jake because we'll be building towards something. You, on the other hand are still blaming the defense that is #4 in the ENTIRE LEAGUE in order to protect the worst rated QB in the league.

San Diego has gone 2-0 the last 2 weeks despite giving up almost 70 points. WITH A FIRST YEAR STARTER. The Colts have an historically poor defense, and have only lost one game. We have plenty of talent to get the job done everywhere on the field, except for at the QB spot.

You can hold on to you pigheaded take that it's everyone other than Jake, but eventually you'll be forced to see that Jake was the source of the grand majority of all maladies in Denver. But, when that time comes I'm guessing that you'll run and hide as opposed to admitting the truth.

[Rigs11]

It's not going to get rough for me because I expect Cutler to struggle, and I have no delusions about the defense. I can even handle him being worse than Jake because we'll be building towards something. You, on the other hand are still blaming the defense that is #4 in the ENTIRE LEAGUE in order to protect the worst rated QB in the league.

San Diego has gone 2-0 the last 2 weeks despite giving up almost 70 points. WITH A FIRST YEAR STARTER. The Colts have an historically poor defense, and have only lost one game. We have plenty of talent to get the job done everywhere on the field, except for at the QB spot.

You can hold on to you pigheaded take that it's everyone other than Jake, but eventually you'll be forced to see that Jake was the source of the grand majority of all maladies in Denver. But, when that time comes I'm guessing that you'll run and hide as opposed to admitting the truth.


funny that you should bring up the colts and the chargers cuz the d gave up what..66 points to them?Might wanna check that defense ranking.You're the bacon reasonator on this. You blame Jake every week, even though the D is getting smoked by good teams and the special teams are a joke. I blame the entire team for this loss.

[ro_50]

You can blame Jake or not, he's had his share in this loss with his anemic play and in the Colts game with that pick inside the 10-yard line, which led to the Colts touchdown.

But the defense as well has been torched against the league's two best offenses. This defense can stiffen against the lesser offenses but when it comes to the great offenses, they crumble. It has a lot to do with Coyer, the ineffective pass rush and so on.

But the big two statement games Denver has had this year and both at home, they lost.

I thought this wouldn't be the year Cutler plays but the offense does need a jump start and Shanahan has pulled the plug on other ineffective players, such as George Foster, why not make a switch at quarterback to at least get something going.