The Orange Mane February Forecast

[Taco John]

I thought this might be a little fun. Let's see how good we are as a group at telling the future. Vote for what you think the major overriding topic of discussion will be this upcoming February.

[GonzoLays]

Taco John criticizing the coaching staff for making George Foster inactive during the Super Bowl.

[Sassy]

Jake Vs. Jay (Just a wild guess here! Ha!)

[Pezman]

Option 8 - Holy Moley! We traded Jake for a bag of chips and Brian Griese and HE won the Superbowl for us!

[Hercules Rockefeller]

What is Jake's trade value, if any?

Where will Jake end up?

How will Shanny/Sundquist take the Skins to the cleaners again?

Are they satisfied with what they have at RDE, or will they make a run at Freeney if he isn't tagged?

Offense or defensive draft?

[OrangeShadow]

Im going to be optimistic and vote
YES on 1

[smalltowngrll]

Option 9....damn long off season!

[Master___Pain]

An original spin on a beat to death topic. Yay!:thumbsup:

[Taco John]

Taco John criticizing the coaching staff for making George Foster inactive during the Super Bowl.

Front-runner McGee comes charging ahead of everybody know that it was actually he, who was saying it all along.

In reality, everybody knows that you're just a guy who is willing to flap your mouth if you can get some much needed confrontation out of the deal. Your real talent is identifying people who hold strong beliefs, and then formulating an argument so you can get the interaction. Your football analysis goes about as far as Jake Plummer pitching a used fabric softener sheet.

[GonzoLays]

Front-runner McGee comes charging ahead of everybody know that it was actually he, who was saying it all along.

In reality, everybody knows that you're just a guy who is willing to flap your mouth if you can get some much needed confrontation out of the deal. Your real talent is identifying people who hold strong beliefs, and then formulating an argument so you can get the interaction. Your football analysis goes about as far as Jake Plummer pitching a used fabric softener sheet.

I still see you are mentally shook from me owning you. Its okay, I heard these types of beat downs takes years to recover from.

And calling me a front runner when I was the ONLY ONE who said Meadows (weeks before it happened) would take Foster's place is quite laughable.

You never ate your crow like a man, but you know I own you and that is all that matters.

[broncosteven]

Other - Plummer Trade Value

I don't see Blunder QB'ing a team to win a SB after his Performance Sunday. Shanny - All positions should be accountable, that includes QB!

[Alkazar]

Option 8 - Holy Moley! We traded Jake for a bag of chips and Brian Griese and HE won the Superbowl for us!:rofl:

[Alkazar]

My choice is "We lost in the Playoffs again, Jake has had his chance, now its CUTLER TIME!"

[smalltowngrll]

Option 10....Survivor time! ROFL!

[Crushaholic]

Option 10....Survivor time! ROFL!

there you go...:yayaya:

[24champ]

Wheres the option where the Chief trolls come in here for the annual "were gonna win the super bowl because we just signed/drafted player X"

[DivineLegion]

Option 11: Just one more year of Jake then Jay will be ready just like Phillip and the rest of the team will be falling into place to put us at the top of the league for a long time...

[Kaylore]

Other.

I think it will be "At last! The Jay Cutler era has begun!"

[2KBack]

I don't think any jake vs jay discussions will be neccessary after the season, even if they win the superbowl. Cutler is the current chosen one, Jake will be gone love him or hate him. The difference will be in how he leaves.

[Kaylore]

Option 11: Just one more year of Jake
**** NO!! I will personally throw garbage on Shanahan's lawn if that happens. NOT FUNNY!

[2KBack]

**** NO!! I will personally throw garbage on Shanahan's lawn if that happens. NOT FUNNY!

Even if somehow They win the Superbowl this year? I can only imagine this place if they win a championship with Jake, kick him to the curb, and then suck for a year.

[Taco John]

**** NO!! I will personally throw garbage on Shanahan's lawn if that happens. NOT FUNNY!


There's no way the salary cap will accommodate Javon's bonus while keeping both Jake and Jay around. I don't think you have to worry about Jake hanging around for another year.

[DivineLegion]

**** NO!! I will personally throw garbage on Shanahan's lawn if that happens. NOT FUNNY!

Its either another year of Jake being Jake or Jay looking like Jake...Unless you fix the Run game and add some consistancy to the Defense.

[Taco John]

I'm looking forward to Jay proving all of these doubters wrong. Jay will not look like Jake. He's already got better mechanics than Jake. He just needs an opportunity to play now.

[2KBack]

I'm looking forward to Jay proving all of these doubters wrong. Jay will not look like Jake. He's already got better mechanics than Jake. He just needs an opportunity to play now.

who's doubting Jay? I think he'll be great, or at least I hope he is. Some damn talented QB's have failed in the NFL.

I still think Jake is the better option this year though

[DivineLegion]

I'm looking forward to Jay proving all of these doubters wrong. Jay will not look like Jake. He's already got better mechanics than Jake. He just needs an opportunity to play now.

I think Jay is going to be amazing but not starint right now...he needs time to learn and react, he needs a full ofseason with his WRs and atleast another year to learn the playbook. Then its time get him used to NFL game speed and we have our star but that is going to take time and growing pains alot like when Jake Plummer first arrived in Denver. Oh and if we dont have a strong running game to back him up you can be sure that we will be winning games on defense alone :thumbsup:

[Taco John]

There is nothing wrong with our running game that a quarterback who can read a defense wont fix. There is nothing that Jake is currently doing that Jay couldn't do better. The bar isn't that high for Jay right now. Plummer has set it pretty damned low.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Where's the "we missed the playoffs!" option?

[Taco John]

Where's the "we missed the playoffs!" option?



You'll find it here:

www.ChiefsPlanet.com

[BigBoltIke]

Denver would have to lose 5 of 7 games to miss out on the playoffs. I don't see that happening. (Though I'd **** my pants if it did...)

[BigBoltIke]

Hey, quick question, Can I adopt Jake Plummer? He's my favorite Bronco...

[Popps]

There is nothing wrong with our running game that a quarterback who can read a defense wont fix.

LOL

Right. The prior 3 seasons where we had top running games weren't the barometer.

The barometer is the past couple of games, where we've had trouble running the ball, and the cause of that is the QB, who's been the same QB who was at the helm for the prior 3+ years of running game success.

So, let's re-cap...

Run the ball for over three years well with Plummer, the running game is good. Struggle in a few games this season, the running game is still good... Jake bad.



Got it.

[Popps]

By the way, if anyone actually takes the time to watch the game a couple of times, they'd find that only two of our short runs in the first half were a result of Oakland stuffing the line. The rest of them were just their front 4 pushing our line around.

But, why mess with little details like factual information when you can just say something and MAKE it true.

[BroncoBuff]

I voted "Would Jay have done better than Jake?"

But I think there will be another VERY hot topic:

"So, what can we get for Jake? Will anybody take his salary, or are we going to have to waive him?"

[fontaine]

LOL

Right. The prior 3 seasons where we had top running games weren't the barometer.

The barometer is the past couple of games, where we've had trouble running the ball, and the cause of that is the QB, who's been the same QB who was at the helm for the prior 3+ years of running game success.

This is probably why you're having so much trouble keeping up.

Jake of 2005 was doing very good.

Jake of 2006 is playing like you post.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

This is probably why you're having so much trouble keeping up.

Jake of 2005 was doing very good.

Jake of 2006 is playing like you post.
ROFL! Ha!

[ScottXray]

Other,

How Will Rod Smiths retirement affect the Broncos offense?

[watermock]

It's simply amazing to me how the apologists seem to see a different game.

Plummer's Butt had ONE great drive to save the day, along with Coyer going postal, sending everything but the mascot and his dog after Walter.

If you think we are going anywhere winning by 4 points at home against Oakland, your all insane.

It's like if they sleepwalked thru the game, they didn't even see the highlights.

Plummer's Butt had 11 offensive plays and two picks before Javon made a Superman play for 39 yards with less than two minutes left in the first quarter.

I'm not saying Jay would win a SB for us, we have other holes, but if we aren't going to with Jake, why not bring the kid in...this isn't the first game of the year at this point. I see the chances of us winning the SB at no more than a very generous 8 percent.

Jay came in as a 4 year starter that carried a piss poor team on his back in the SEC, a conference arguably the meanest defenses in the NCAA, raced to training camp a few hours late, making good on his promise he wouldn't miss a day of camp, and has been involved albeit slightly, in 13 games and 14 weeks.

I'll say it again...every week he is soaking up more and more. He's a "half rookie" now.

Evidently we are condemed to simply watch the string ride out.

[Arkie]

We won the superbowl with Jake? WTF?

[Clockwork Orange]

It's simply amazing to me how the apologists seem to see a different game.

Plummer's Butt had ONE great drive to save the day, along with Coyer going postal, sending everything but the mascot and his dog after Walter.

If you think we are going anywhere winning by 4 points at home against Oakland, your all insane.

It's like if they sleepwalked thru the game, they didn't even see the highlights.

Plummer's Butt had 11 offensive plays and two picks before Javon made a Superman play for 39 yards with less than two minutes left in the first quarter.

I'm not saying Jay would win a SB for us, we have other holes, but if we aren't going to with Jake, why not bring the kid in...this isn't the first game of the year at this point. I see the chances of us winning the SB at no more than a very generous 8 percent.

Jay came in as a 4 year starter that carried a piss poor team on his back in the SEC, a conference arguably the meanest defenses in the NCAA, raced to training camp a few hours late, making good on his promise he wouldn't miss a day of camp, and has been involved albeit slightly, in 13 games and 14 weeks.

I'll say it again...every week he is soaking up more and more. He's a "half rookie" now.

Evidently we are condemed to simply watch the string ride out.

Ummm, aren't you the one who started these threads about a week ago?

Jake Haters STFU.....I love good Jake (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=49040)

Jake has redeemed himself (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=49037)

And you have the nerve to call democrats flip floppers. :rofl:

[Arkie]

When February comes around, if the Broncos are football's world champ, and the Cardinals are baseball's world champ, then that would be really cool.

[Clockwork Orange]

When February comes around, if the Broncos are football's world champ, and the Cardinals are baseball's world champ, then that would be really cool.

I'll second that. ^5

[Kaylore]

By the way, if anyone actually takes the time to watch the game a couple of times, they'd find that only two of our short runs in the first half were a result of Oakland stuffing the line. The rest of them were just their front 4 pushing our line around.

But, why mess with little details like factual information when you can just say something and MAKE it true.

Actually, I did and you're full of crap. Just about 80% of the snaps they had they put at least 8 men in the box and on half of them there was a fifth man playing at the line. Also when you watch the defenders, on every down except third and long, the Raiders defense would play the run first and then rush the passer. The entire scheme was to shut down the run and force Jake into long yardage situations. It worked pretty well. Jake can't play well enough to losen up the coverage and the run game is being hurt by it. There were some cutbacks that both backs missed, but there isn't much you can hope for when they are overloading the box and our primary back is injured.

But why mess with the little details like factual information when you can just imagine something and make it true?

[Popps]

Actually, I did and you're full of crap. Just about 80% of the snaps they had they put at least 8 men in the box and on half of them there was a fifth man playing at the line. Also when you watch the defenders, on every down except third and long, the Raiders defense would play the run first and then rush the passer. The entire scheme was to shut down the run and force Jake into long yardage situations. It worked pretty well. Jake can't play well enough to losen up the coverage and the run game is being hurt by it. There were some cutbacks that both backs missed, but there isn't much you can hope for when they are overloading the box and our primary back is injured.

But why mess with the little details like factual information when you can just imagine something and make it true?

They used more than 4 down linemen 3 times in the first half. In the second half, they started cheating, and we exploited it with short passes.

I mean, you either watched the tape or you didn't. It's all there, plain to see.

[Taco John]

:popcorn:

[24champ]

http://www.gothamist.com/attachments/food_laren/2005_07_food_moviepopcorn.jpg

[watermock]

Ummm, aren't you the one who started these threads about a week ago?

Jake Haters STFU.....I love good Jake (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=49040)

Jake has redeemed himself (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=49037)

And you have the nerve to call democrats flip floppers. :rofl:

Actually both were toungue in cheek/spoofs after he finally had ONE great game. Of course, your too thick to of realized it.

The first thread was a spoof of another thread of the same name after a mediocre game.

The second was basically to show that I will give credit where credit is due. Unfortunately, Jake followed up a great road victory by typically laying a turd, at HOME, against a vastly inferior team. I'll grant that Oakland's D is vastly better than that pathetically antiquated offense, but those picks and throws were simply mind boggling. Anything close to that kind of effort, we are going to get murdered Sunday night. Period.

I'm fine with admiting I was hoping Jake had broken thru a self imposed wall and would continue to build off a great game...unfortunately, Bad Jake is the predominant personality and quickly took back his strangle hold on any kind of common sense on the field.

[watermock]

The main topic of conversation will be whether to save Javon's option bonus and cut him or pay Jake for another year. Ha!

[GonzoLays]

You know if Javon has like a 1300-1500 yard season, he might holdout because a 10 million dollar signing bonus is paltry for one of the best WRs in the game. He might not holdout, but knowing his history, he won't be happy with it. If he didn't sign his extention before he got traded, he would have made a lot more cash on the open market.

[freak6]

lmfao @ Popps arguing factual details!!! Hilarious!

When you get <b>slammed down to the ground, it has a tendency to jar the ball loose</b>, which is why Jake fumbled vs the Colts, setting them up for an easy score

[Traveler]

Other- All offensive starters, sans Walker, will be new or in different positions. Tatum will be traded after the season;Jake, Nalen, and Alexander will get cut.

[Rock Chalk]

There is nothing wrong with our running game that a quarterback who can read a defense wont fix. There is nothing that Jake is currently doing that Jay couldn't do better. The bar isn't that high for Jay right now. Plummer has set it pretty damned low.

Yet, Jay still cant beat out Jake...

[Popps]

Yet, Jay still cant beat out Jake...

Jay will have his day.

In the meanwhile, I'm going to sit back and enjoy watching these wins pile up.
The piss n' moan crowd can cry themselves silly, for all I care.

This franchise is in a phenomenal position.

[Hotrod]

I will once again be the wise man in the room. Watching you all climb all over yourselfs peeing in the wind about who the QB should be and the whole time the voice of reason (which is me) will be quietly praying to the football Gods that Shanny finally address the freaking DLIne and the FREAKING PASS RUSH.

[Sassy]

I will once again be the wise man in the room. Watching you all climb all over yourselfs peeing in the wind about who the QB should be and the whole time the voice of reason (which is me) will be quietly praying to the football Gods that Shanny finally address the freaking DLIne and the FREAKING PASS RUSH.

But the D'Line and the Pass rush are awesome..they don't effect the way Jake plays at all...haven't you learned that yet? ;)

[-Slap-]

But the D'Line and the Pass rush are awesome..they don't effect the way Jake plays at all...haven't you learned that yet? ;)

A mosquito farting in western Tibet affects the way Jake plays.