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Bronco_Beerslug
11-05-2006, 08:25 AM
Apparently, it's 10 million each for BP who ran models for their refineries blowing up and killing people in past years (on CNBC) Friday.

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Explosion at BP's Texas refinery result of "cost-cutting:"
by Alice Benoit Tue Oct 31, 12:20 PM ET

HOUSTON (AFP) - Overzealous cost-cutting by British energy giant BP set the stage for a 2005 explosion that killed 15 workers and injured 180 others at a major Texas oil refinery, a US government agency said.

"What BP experienced was a perfect storm where ageing infrastructure, overzealous cost-cutting inadequate design and a risk-blindness all converged," US Chemical Safety Board chairman Carolyn Merritt said at a press conference.

Her remarks follow the release of a preliminary report Monday which found that BP was aware that its Texas operations were "unsafe" and "antiquated."

Merritt said Tuesday that BP had been working to resolve the problems, but that one BP official admitted to investigators that it was "too little, too late."

She also noted that BP auditors had found "serious safety problems that were common across 35 business units worldwide."

Merritt cautioned that the problems discovered at BP are common across the industry and recommended that standard safety practices be updated to prevent similar explosions.

"The experience of BP should serve as a cautionary tale to every oil and chemical company," she said. "No corporation should believe it is immune from what happened to BP."

The March 2005 blast was the worst industrial accident in the United States since 1990. The CSB is due to issue a final report on its findings in 2007.
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Report: BP knew refinery was at risk

Sun Oct 29, 10:13 PM ET TEXAS CITY, Texas - Safety experts for BP PLC warned their bosses of the potential for a "major site incident" 2 1/2 years before an explosion at the company's Texas City refinery killed 15 people, according to a broadcast report.


CBS' "60 Minutes" also reported Sunday that the Texas City plant manager, Don Parus, told his bosses in the company's London headquarters that most workers at the refinery felt the plant was unsafe.


According to CBS, one worker wrote, "This place is set up for a catastrophic failure."
BP's top refinery executive, John Manzoni, has said under oath he didn't know of serious safety concerns until the explosion.


"They didn't do much," said Brent Coon, an attorney representing several victims suing BP. "Two months later the plant blew up."
Another 170 people were injured in the explosion about 40 miles southeast of Houston.
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W*GS
11-05-2006, 08:38 AM
Do you carry $10 million in liability insurance, BB?

If not, then you value someone else's life less than BP does.

yavoon
11-05-2006, 09:41 AM
wow thats an assload, I think the country w/ highest value on ppls lives is japan and its at like 1 million.

W*GS
11-05-2006, 09:42 AM
I guarantee that is more then the automobile and probably aerospace industries value it.

As well as each of us individually with the insurance we carry.

I doubt most levels of government give us a value of $10 million, either.

Bronco_Beerslug
11-05-2006, 09:55 AM
Do you carry $10 million in liability insurance, BB?

If not, then you value someone else's life less than BP does.
I don't run a company that made 20 billion last year and that killed and maimed it's employees but you spin it how you like. And if you're happy that your wife and kids are worth 10 million each, good for you.

BTW, the way they came up with that number was accounting for "accidents" that could happen by not performing required safety and plant upgrades to save money.

W*GS
11-05-2006, 10:57 AM
I don't run a company that made 20 billion last year and that killed and maimed it's employees but you spin it how you like.

Even the State doesn't value your life that much - and it has something like $2 trillion in revenue.

What BP did was despicable, in the sense that they ignored reports from their own staff that the facility was unsafe - but that they valued lives at some monetary value isn't.

BTW, the way they came up with that number was accounting for "accidents" that could happen by not performing required safety and plant upgrades to save money.

You make the same calculations too. Think a little bit before firing back.