Looks Like Walker is more about money... than being team man

[DB84FAN]

There is a $6 million option bonus due Walker around mid-February, followed by another $4 million roster bonus in early March. His base salary and workout bonus would bring his 2007 earnings to $10.7 million.

Compare that to the $6.6 million Smith is scheduled to make next season.

The Broncos could opt to restructure Walker's deal by making it more cap friendly, but $10 million-plus is the going rate for an elite receiver in his prime.

:wiggle: "Everyone can see I'm back," Walker said. "The bonuses, that's up to the team. But I'm confident that either I get it here or I will get it someplace else. Hopefully, it's here. :wiggle:

[Kaylore]

Of course he's about the money, he's one of the best and he's entering his prime. This is his job, by the way, and he knows full well that at any moment your whole season can go down the drain. I hope we pay him every penny - he's worth it.

[Play2win]

Yeah, every penny. He has a Shannon-Sharpe-Like-Effect on this offense. I can't wait to see him in there with Cutler throwing him the ball!!

[Meck77]

Show him the $. I wonder how many of us wake up each day hoping that our boss says "We're going to restructure your pay since you are kicking ass at work".

[DB84FAN]

Of course he's about the money, he's one of the best and he's entering his prime. This is his job, by the way, and he knows full well that at any moment your whole season can go down the drain. I hope we pay him every penny - he's worth it.

I understand that part, but when a guy talks about i will get it somewhere else and in another article he said they are more commited to running.. does he feel he is still not a part of broncos ? looks like in his first year he is still thinking he is somewhere else

i can understand a guy in prime wants to make money and be known as best receiver as well.. but he should address things as a team is all i am saying

[Garcia Bronco]

I'll take out a collection...he's worth it

[Clockwork Orange]

He's worth every bit of what he's going to be paid.

I smile every time I think of Cutler to Walker. We've got many years of that ahead. :yep:

[long beach bronco]

I cant wait for the Cutler era to begin, he'll be spreading the ball around to everyone, but his go to guy will be Walker. He'll be able to focus on all of his options on the field.

[FantomForce]

Pay the man he deserves every red cent

[WABronco]

Listen, I've been seeing a lot of people whining about this quote on other boards, and my answer is this:

Javon has no control on whether or not that option is picked up, or whether or not he's here next year. All he's saying is that he hopes it's here, but he can "get it" elsewhere if that's what it comes to. He was asked about the bonuses, he answered.

[ludo21]

Elite WR's go for 10 mil these days, pay the man. He deserves it for being one of our only playmakers on offense.

[DB84FAN]

I dont want this guy to go away either, that is reason i was worried when he worded somewhere else... i want him to retire here. I see 1500 yrds for sure if he is healthy every year for atleast next 5 to 6 yrs for sure... i dont want us losing that option

[Clockwork Orange]

Javon has no control on whether or not that option is picked up, or whether or not he's here next year. All he's saying is that he hopes it's here, but he can "get it" elsewhere if that's what it comes to. He was asked about the bonuses, he answered.

Thank you.

[broncocalijohn]

DB84FAN,
i thought you would have stayed away from making threads after your last attempt. He stated he hopes he is here next year. They get this type of crazy money. I look at my hike in season tickets every year to verify this.

[Taco John]

PAY THAT MAN!

[Meck77]

Actually I think we should just cut Javon and give all his money to Plummer via a contract extention.

[Northman]

There is a $6 million option bonus due Walker around mid-February, followed by another $4 million roster bonus in early March. His base salary and workout bonus would bring his 2007 earnings to $10.7 million.

Compare that to the $6.6 million Smith is scheduled to make next season.

The Broncos could opt to restructure Walker's deal by making it more cap friendly, but $10 million-plus is the going rate for an elite receiver in his prime.

:wiggle: "Everyone can see I'm back," Walker said. "The bonuses, that's up to the team. But I'm confident that either I get it here or I will get it someplace else. Hopefully, it's here. :wiggle:

How many TDs does he have compared to Rod this year? There is a reason you pay him the bucks man.

[WABronco]

Actually I think we should just cut Javon and give all his money to Plummer via a contract extention.

Or better yet, lets re-sign Lelie using the Javon-money.

He'll suck ass, but he won't say a word to the media. SIGN HIM!

[Clockwork Orange]

There was a time when some people complained about Champ Bailey's contract, too. Funny how you don't hear much of that anymore.

[Play2win]

Think about it– Champ Bailey and Javon Walker are two of the very elite athletes that happen to play in the NFL, and we have them BOTH. One on offense, one on defense. We should count ourselves LUCKY!!!

[ScotchTanShan]

Gotta agree- you gotta pay the man. The NFL player gives a lot in terms of no $ is certain and killing their bodies. An NFL player's career is short and they need to be smart about getting value when they have leverage while in their prime.

[Hogan11]

Sure, everyone says "Pay The Man" and don't get me wrong I'm for paying him as well....but I have to wonder if we paid all these guys what they wanted what the cap situation is gonna be like for Denver in the future.....is "paying the man" setting the team up for a Tennessee Titan like fall into cap hell years down the line? If so, then it's not worth it at all. IMO.

[eddie mac]

There is a $6 million option bonus due Walker around mid-February, followed by another $4 million roster bonus in early March. His base salary and workout bonus would bring his 2007 earnings to $10.7 million.

Compare that to the $6.6 million Smith is scheduled to make next season.

The Broncos could opt to restructure Walker's deal by making it more cap friendly, but $10 million-plus is the going rate for an elite receiver in his prime.

:wiggle: "Everyone can see I'm back," Walker said. "The bonuses, that's up to the team. But I'm confident that either I get it here or I will get it someplace else. Hopefully, it's here. :wiggle:

They will opt to restructure it or prorate it over the length of his contract. There's no way the Broncos will have 2 players eating up 20% of the cap next year. Doesn't hurt Javon in anyway, he'll still get his money just means we wont be holding our dicks in FA.

[listopencil]

Sure, everyone says "Pay The Man" and don't get me wrong I'm for paying him as well....but I have to wonder if we paid all these guys what they wanted what the cap situation is gonna be like for Denver in the future.....is "paying the man" setting the team up for a Tennessee Titan like fall into cap hell years down the line? If so, then it's not worth it at all. IMO.

If we had a bunch of guys that were as good at their positions as Walker is at his then yeah, break the bank. Five years of cap hell would be worth it. Every team wishes they had a problem like that. The trick is knowing which guys are actually worth it.

[Jetmeck]

PAY THAT MAN!


Yes do that and Throw him the damn ball because good things happen when we do !

[Hogan11]

If we had a bunch of guys that were as good at their positions as Walker is at his then yeah, break the bank. Five years of cap hell would be worth it. Every team wishes they had a problem like that. The trick is knowing which guys are actually worth it.

I'd rather the team be like New England when someone prices themselves out of town and avoid the cap hell if possible...but that's just me I guess.

[DenverBrit]

He has shown his worth and I assume has met the requirements to trigger the bonus.
He and Denver have an agreement, are you suggesting it shouldn't be honored?
The bonus and other guarantees are in line with the compensation for top receivers.
The man plays to win, has great skill and wants the ball....what more could we ask?

[baja]

I understand that part,<b> but when a guy talks about i will get it somewhere else </b>and in another article he said they are more commited to running.. does he feel he is still not a part of broncos ? looks like in his first year he is still thinking he is somewhere else

i can understand a guy in prime wants to make money and be known as best receiver as well.. but he should address things as a team is all i am saying

Heck I'm one of the top guys where I work and i let the above be known from time to time too. It's not meant to be arrogant or personal it's just a way to let them know i realize my value and that they need to as well. I consider myself a team player but I want to be paid what I am worth and I know i have options. I see Javon doing the very same thing. It was very different with Ashlie Lelie he demanded something he had not earned. I don't understand fans saying Walker should shut up and just be happy he is a Bronco. He has just a few years to make his money and he is smart enough to make sure he gets it. Good for him. Bottom line, I think he will be a great Bronco for years to come barring injury.

[BroncoFanCam]

There is a $6 million option bonus due Walker around mid-February, followed by another $4 million roster bonus in early March. His base salary and workout bonus would bring his 2007 earnings to $10.7 million.

Compare that to the $6.6 million Smith is scheduled to make next season.

The Broncos could opt to restructure Walker's deal by making it more cap friendly, but $10 million-plus is the going rate for an elite receiver in his prime.

:wiggle: "Everyone can see I'm back," Walker said. "The bonuses, that's up to the team. But I'm confident that either I get it here or I will get it someplace else. Hopefully, it's here. :wiggle:1: We knew Javon liked the cash before bringing him here. (SEE: Why he wanted out of GB.)

2: He is not "all about the money". He is disgruntled at the state of a piss-poor offense with a QB who couldn't consistently get him involved in the passing game, if his life depended on it.

If Jake has another sub-par performance this week, and Shanny doesn't make teh change, I honestly think he risks losing this team.

Rod is p/o'ed all of the time, now Javon is mouthing off because he isn't being utilized. The running game is firing on all cylinders, the TE's can be involved whenever we have a QB that knows how to check-down...

I really think if we lose this weekend, tis team could really start falling apart.

There is plenty of talent and thus far one MAJOR weak link. We should not be struggling this way, and the players themselves know it.

[maven]

There is a $6 million option bonus due Walker around mid-February, followed by another $4 million roster bonus in early March. His base salary and workout bonus would bring his 2007 earnings to $10.7 million.

Compare that to the $6.6 million Smith is scheduled to make next season.

The Broncos could opt to restructure Walker's deal by making it more cap friendly, but $10 million-plus is the going rate for an elite receiver in his prime.

:wiggle: "Everyone can see I'm back," Walker said. "The bonuses, that's up to the team. But I'm confident that either I get it here or I will get it someplace else. Hopefully, it's here. :wiggle:


Pay him every penny!

Now Rod, cut his salary by 2/3!

[Jetmeck]

I'd rather the team be like New England when someone prices themselves out of town and avoid the cap hell if possible...but that's just me I guess.

Like TOM TERREFIC isn't breaking the bank ? On the other side he is the reason they are winning because their receivers are not that good but then again he probably is the reason they can't afford several high priced receivers.

[Jetmeck]

1: We knew Javon liked the cash before bringing him here. (SEE: Why he wanted out of GB.)

2: He is not "all about the money". He is disgruntled at the state of a piss-poor offense with a QB who couldn't consistently get him involved in the passing game, if his life depended on it.

If Jake has another sub-par performance this week, and Shanny doesn't make teh change, I honestly think he risks losing this team.

Rod is p/o'ed all of the time, now Javon is mouthing off because he isn't being utilized. The running game is firing on all cylinders, the TE's can be involved whenever we have a QB that knows how to check-down...

I really think if we lose this weekend, tis team could really start falling apart.

There is plenty of talent and thus far one MAJOR weak link. We should not be struggling this way, and the players themselves know it.


AWESOME post.

[ZachKC]

http://www.roundersmovie.com/imgs/rounders56.jpg

[Sassy]

Javon is going to help this team win a SB...Pay the man!

[Popps]

Actually I think we should just cut Javon and give all his money to Plummer via a contract extention.

Hilarious!

It would almost be worth it to see the server crash 40 days straight around here. What a comedy circus that would be.

Seriously though, I don't think the front office will play around with this guy. Certainly, he's not a guy looking to play for cheap. But, as long as he's producing the way he is, I've got no problem with paying him. I expect us to keep him locked up.

[Willynowei]

I'm a little confused but i think this is out of context. If denver doesn't pick up the option on Javon's contract, I'm pretty sure that means we drop him and basically is equivalent of a cut, unless he agrees to cut the bonus. Not sure why he would cut a bonus he signed for just a year ago.

So thus, looking at his performance, there is nothing wrong with what he said especially if he meant that its in hte hands of the organization which it is. they have an optional bonus to pick up like they had with Jake years ago, when they could've cut him.

Anwyways, there are a lot of teams waiting in line to pay Walker if Denver doesn't.

[Willynowei]

1: We knew Javon liked the cash before bringing him here. (SEE: Why he wanted out of GB.)

2: He is not "all about the money". He is disgruntled at the state of a piss-poor offense with a QB who couldn't consistently get him involved in the passing game, if his life depended on it.

If Jake has another sub-par performance this week, and Shanny doesn't make teh change, I honestly think he risks losing this team.

Rod is p/o'ed all of the time, now Javon is mouthing off because he isn't being utilized. The running game is firing on all cylinders, the TE's can be involved whenever we have a QB that knows how to check-down...

I really think if we lose this weekend, tis team could really start falling apart.

There is plenty of talent and thus far one MAJOR weak link. We should not be struggling this way, and the players themselves know it.

Yeap, one major weaklink, and would you believe its not on offense? Check out the reason we lost last sunday.

With that said, I'm excited for Cutler to Walker too.... When the time is right, and not a moment too soon. Only two Qb's have been to a superbowl in their sophomore year, only one of them have won it, and that guy is performing worse than Jake right now.

The day Cutler gets ripped up in his first big game, is when we are all brought back to reality. Shanahan wouldn't play Jake if he wasn't confident that Jake could get it done.

[Dedhed]

Paid!

[wabbit]

The comment about 'here or elsewhere' is troubling, frankly.

It's no surprise considering the state of things these days, but it is troubling.

[Taco John]

The comment about 'here or elsewhere' is troubling, frankly.

It's no surprise considering the state of things these days, but it is troubling.



I'm not that bothered by it. He's just showing confidence in his abilities. And he's right, to boot. He's a top flight receiver, and if Denver decides not to pick up the option and give the man his money, he's going to have 31 other teams in the league who are going to be willing to.

What I think is cheap is for someone to take this and twist it into something where he's not about team. On the field, the guy has shown nothing but "team." The play where he sent Marshall in to catch a touchdown that would have gone his way immediately comes to mind. That's leadership, and that's the kind of thing that I'm interested in seeing. It was something that was unexpected, and a nice suprise.

Walker saying that he wants that bonus-- That's expected, and not suprising at all. It's why he left Green Bay in the first place.

This is the guy we hoped Lelie would turn into. I highly doubt that the Broncos are going to let him slip through their fingers.

[wabbit]

...I highly doubt that the Broncos are going to let him slip through their fingers.

I doubt they will either TJ, but the tone bothers me.

With that kind of cap hit, there's no doubt in my mind that Sundquist/Shanahan will try to re-negotiate during the off-season, and assuming Walker sparkles as he has so far, he likely won't be in the mood to concede anything.

In my mind, that sets the stage for a conflict, and that's never good even after it's resolved, assuming it is resolved to everyone's satisfaction.

[Popps]

I doubt they will either TJ, but the tone bothers me.

With that kind of cap hit, there's no doubt in my mind that Sundquist/Shanahan will try to re-negotiate during the off-season, and assuming Walker sparkles as he has so far, he likely won't be in the mood to concede anything.

In my mind, that sets the stage for a conflict, and that's never good even after it's resolved, assuming it is resolved to everyone's satisfaction.

I see where you're going with this, and probably for good reason.

I DO think Walker is a money-guy. But, keep in mind... he feels like he's one of the best in the league and has yet to get paid for it. Once he cashes a few big checks, he may come down to earth a little.

Still, he might have a little dab of Clinton Portis to his personality. He is a wide receiver, after all.

Walker is a guy I see shining bright in Denver for a few years, and then maybe moving on... and I'll take it. We're getting this guy during his prime.

[CBF1]

There is a $6 million option bonus due Walker around mid-February, followed by another $4 million roster bonus in early March. His base salary and workout bonus would bring his 2007 earnings to $10.7 million.

Compare that to the $6.6 million Smith is scheduled to make next season.

The Broncos could opt to restructure Walker's deal by making it more cap friendly, but $10 million-plus is the going rate for an elite receiver in his prime.

:wiggle: "Everyone can see I'm back," Walker said. "The bonuses, that's up to the team. But I'm confident that either I get it here or I will get it someplace else. Hopefully, it's here. :wiggle:

TJ..... seriously, Time to enforce the 100 post rule. This is getting out of hand.

[Taco John]

I'm not positive about this... But I suspect Shanahan already has a plan in place. I'm too lazy to look it up right now, but I wonder how much we might save once we get Plummer off the books.

[eddie mac]

He needs to take a good long hard look at Rod Smith. How many times did Rod say "show me the money" over an illustrious career???

[watermock]

He needs to take a good long hard look at Rod Smith. How many times did Rod say "show me the money" over an illustrious career???

That's rediculous. Rod has a contract he has redone at least 3 times. The only thing that might insult him is a pay cut. That would be insulting and piss me off...I don't care if he's getting a few million more than he's producing at this point.

I could give a Rat's Ass if he makes the HOF...but he should be put in the Ring of Fame right away.

[Play2win]

I think Javon is also making a subtle, albeit serious, hint that the time is now to switch the signal-caller.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

I think Javon is also making a subtle, albeit serious, hint that the time is now to switch the signal-caller.You think he's saying use me or lose me?

Actually, he shouldn't be saying anything about his money in the press but if the Broncos didn't know they were going to have to pay him when they signed him they're pretty ignorant.

[Hogan11]

I doubt they will either TJ, but the tone bothers me.

With that kind of cap hit, there's no doubt in my mind that Sundquist/Shanahan will try to re-negotiate during the off-season, and assuming Walker sparkles as he has so far, he likely won't be in the mood to concede anything.

In my mind, that sets the stage for a conflict, and that's never good even after it's resolved, assuming it is resolved to everyone's satisfaction.

That's essentially what I was trying to get at. Every player wants to be paid top dollar and when one starts in about his contract, most of the fans scream "pay him" without regards or thinking what the long term ramifications are to such a thing. In the current cap era, not everyone can be paid what they want, no matter how much they and the fans would like to see it.

The thing I don't want, is for the team to go into cap hell for years on end because of a one or two season bid to "win it all now". I'd like to see the restructuring and managability continue as per the status quo and if that means some players have to "go elsewhere to be paid", then so be it.

[cabronco]

I'm sure there's a rough draft master plan in place. We need to to keep Walker thats for sure. When the day comes and Cutler takes over the helm, we need some top tier receivers so we can annihilate opposing defenses, like we did in the past. I also believe we have those receivers now. Just a top notch DT and DE away and that would shore up this team pretty well, Imo.

[Antilles]

That's essentially what I was trying to get at. Every player wants to be paid top dollar and when one starts in about his contract, most of the fans scream "pay him" without regards or thinking what the long term ramifications are to such a thing. In the current cap era, not everyone can be paid what they want, no matter how much they and the fans would like to see it.

The thing I don't want, is for the team to go into cap hell for years on end because of a one or two season bid to "win it all now". I'd like to see the restructuring and managability continue as per the status quo and if that means some players have to "go elsewhere to be paid", then so be it.

Of course, right now Walker is the biggest bullet in our pea-shooter offense. You can't pay everybody, but you have to pay SOMEBODY. The number that concerns me is 6 mill for Rod. I love Rod to death, but that's an astronomical number for a guy who is clearly on the downside of his career. Of course, I doubt either Javon's 10 mill or Rod's 6 mill are their actual cap hits.

[Hogan11]

Of course, right now Walker is the biggest bullet in our pea-shooter offense. You can't pay everybody, but you have to pay SOMEBODY. The number that concerns me is 6 mill for Rod. I love Rod to death, but that's an astronomical number for a guy who is clearly on the downside of his career. Of course, I doubt either Javon's 10 mill or Rod's 6 mill are their actual cap hits.

I agree, you do have to pay somebody, but you also have to do what's best to keep the team afloat for the long term as well and that should be priority #1.

When it comes to Rod or Javon, who do you honestly think is more likely to restructure their contract to be under the cap number? I could be wrong (and I hope I am) but sometimes Javon's comments make me a bit nervous about that whole thing.

[Play2win]

You think he's saying use me or lose me?

Actually, he shouldn't be saying anything about his money in the press but if the Broncos didn't know they were going to have to pay him when they signed him they're pretty ignorant.

Yeah, pretty much comes with the territory nowdays (top-flight WRs).

[freak6]

Since Jake owes his starting position and any future employment to Javon Walker, I think it's only natural that Jake's 2007 paychecks have thier account numbers changed to Javon's.

[Broncojef]

The upcoming bonus money was setup in case Javon never was healthy and the leg went south. In think we can all agree Javon is in top form. I think Javon's demeanor in his statement was most likely directed at the media. I'd hate to discuss my finances with some nerd from the Post making $30K a year. Javon is the real deal and when Cutler plays I think this offense blossoms with Javon as the center piece. The one thing Sundquist and Shanny teams have managed is to survive the cap and excel. Sometimes we cut guys a year or so early but we always manage to field a great team every year while paying guys like Champ and Javon who perform their money. There will be no $$$ fight with Javon, Shanny knows what hes got and he will pay the man his money.

[BroncoSoja]

I understand that part, but when a guy talks about i will get it somewhere else and in another article he said they are more commited to running.. does he feel he is still not a part of broncos ? looks like in his first year he is still thinking he is somewhere else

i can understand a guy in prime wants to make money and be known as best receiver as well.. but he should address things as a team is all i am saying

The next time you have a option of getting paid more (doing the same thing) by another company I want you to remember what you just typed. And thing to yourself, its about the "Team".

Seriously some of you people are comical.. Like someone said, this is ther job ofcourse they are going to try to get as much money as they can get.. Who the f wouldn't...

[-Slap-]

Like TOM TERREFIC isn't breaking the bank ? On the other side he is the reason they are winning because their receivers are not that good but then again he probably is the reason they can't afford several high priced receivers.

Actually, Brady accepted below market value to stay in New England. Vick and Manning were busy trying to top each other while Brady was getting sized for Rings.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Actually, Brady accepted below market value to stay in New England. Vick and Manning were busy trying to top each other while Brady was getting sized for Rings.
Brady's last deal was for 60 million, the one before that was for 30 million. Vick and Manning took what their clubs wanted to pay them, I would too.

[DeusExManning]

This was a perfectly structured contract. It gives us a guarantee that he has recovered fully from his knee injury. You have to have a Javon Walker on your team to make it to the big show. Show him the money.

[Hootie]

I don't think he's that good...

[Hogan11]

The next time you have a option of getting paid more (doing the same thing) by another company I want you to remember what you just typed. And thing to yourself, its about the "Team".

Seriously some of you people are comical.. Like someone said, this is ther job ofcourse they are going to try to get as much money as they can get.. Who the f wouldn't...

I really don't find your analogy to be applicable because most jobs are not team sports.

Some of us are fans of the Denver Broncos as a whole rather than just fans of some of the individuals on the team. When it comes to Javon, yeah, I'm happy he's here and performing beyond expectations...by all means he should get paid his bonus and get as much money as he can, when he can...but if I'm the Broncos, I'd balk at breaking the bank on him (or any other player for that matter) if it ment cap hell for the franchise is right around the corner by doing so. In sports, the team's concerns are always greater than that of the individual....at least, that's how I see it.

[MadCity]

I don't think he's that good...

How sad. Some poor village is missing their idiot.

[Northman]

How sad. Some poor village is missing their idiot.


I dont know how Javon stacks up there with guys like Harrison but he is certainly the best receiver on the Broncos right now.

[eddie mac]

That's rediculous. Rod has a contract he has redone at least 3 times. The only thing that might insult him is a pay cut. That would be insulting and piss me off...I don't care if he's getting a few million more than he's producing at this point.

I could give a Rat's Ass if he makes the HOF...but he should be put in the Ring of Fame right away.

Mock wtf are you talking about??? My post was indicating that Javon should take a leaf out of Rod's book, i.e not running his mouth about $$ and who's gonna pay him. That's more TO style certainly not Mr Bronco style. He's a good receiver but he hasn't earned the right to demand **** from the Broncos.

[watermock]

That post is idiotic since I said STfU in two different posts. You STFU.

[broncogary]

That post is idiotic since I said STfU in two different posts. You STFU.

The who said "STFU" first rule is even more important than the 100 post rule. ;)

[Arkansas Bronco]

I read the first page but I cut off to make a resonce. Tell me one NFL player that doesnt care about his money. This is a job and a well paying job and if you are good you get the roll and that is all there is to say. Walker will get his cut and I am pretty sure it will be from us. Oh and by the way this kind of thread is why everyone bitches about the 100 post rule.

[maven]

That's rediculous. Rod has a contract he has redone at least 3 times. The only thing that might insult him is a pay cut. That would be insulting and piss me off...I don't care if he's getting a few million more than he's producing at this point.

I could give a Rat's Ass if he makes the HOF...but he should be put in the Ring of Fame right away.

It's football. Players get their contracts redone. End of story.

Now Rod Smith? Six million dollar contract for next season. Chop that contract atleast in half and redo his contract. Rod complains and will not accept a paycut, cut him. Show me a team who will pay him 6 million next season. He's smart, he'll take the cut.

[-Slap-]

Brady's last deal was for 60 million, the one before that was for 30 million. Vick and Manning took what their clubs wanted to pay them, I would too.

Who cares what you would do, Beer? You're not relevant to a discussion of multi million dollar athletes.

Brady took $90 million and Vick and Manning took 150% of that amount. Brady realizes winning is more important to him than the ego gratification of being the highest paid.

Michael Jordan did the same thing for many years. Only until his final couple seasons in the NBA was he among the top five in salary. He knew he could recoup those dollars with tons of endorsements. Brady knows it, too. The funny thing is Manning makes more commercials than anybody. Too bad his ego dictates a salary that leaves very little available cap room on the defensive side of the ball. That does provide him with a ready made excuse every year, though.

[Clockwork Orange]

Who cares what you would do, Beer? You're not relevant to a discussion of multi million dollar athletes.

Brady took $90 million and Vick and Manning took 150% of that amount. Brady realizes winning is more important to him than the ego gratification of being the highest paid.

Michael Jordan did the same thing for many years. Only until his final couple seasons in the NBA was he among the top five in salary. He knew he could recoup those dollars with tons of endorsements. Brady knows it, too. The funny thing is Manning makes more commercials than anybody. Too bad his ego dictates a salary that leaves very little available cap room on the defensive side of the ball. That does provide him with a ready made excuse every year, though.

Actually, Brady's deal was worth $60 million over 6 years.

The overall value of these contracts is practically meaningless, as players almost never see the full amount before they're released, restructured, extended, etc. The important part is the guaranteed money, most notably the signing bonus. Wanna see what the three QB's in question got up front?

Peyton Manning $34.5 million
Michael Vick $37 million
Tom Brady $14.5 million

Now, is Tom Brady worth that much less than Manning or Vick? Or is he more interested in keeping his cap number down to help his team remain amongst the elite? I think the answer is pretty obvious.

[-Slap-]

Actually, Brady's deal was worth $60 million over 6 years.

The overall value of these contracts is practically meaningless, as players almost never see the full amount before they're released, restructured, extended, etc. The important part is the guaranteed money, most notably the signing bonus. Wanna see what the three QB's in question got up front?

Peyton Manning $34.5 million
Michael Vick $37 million
Tom Brady $14.5 million

Now, is Tom Brady worth that much less than Manning or Vick? Or is he more interested in keeping his cap number down to help his team remain amongst the elite? I think the answer is pretty obvious.

My bad. Manning's not making one and a half times what Brady does, he's making almost two and a half times more.

[Clockwork Orange]

Makes me wonder, if Cutler blows up as most here think he will, how are people going to react to his next contract? Some people are concerned over Walker's money and some flipped out over Champ Bailey's, wait til they get a load of what Jay C. is gonna be able to demand if he is what we all hope he is.

[BroncoFanCam]

Makes me wonder, if Cutler blows up as most here think he will, how are people going to react to his next contract? Some people are concerned over Walker's money and some flipped out over Champ Bailey's, wait til they get a load of what Jay C. is gonna be able to demand if he is what we all hope he is.

Who's concerned about Walker or Bailey?

They are arguably the best two players on teh team and at premium positions none the less.

I say pay the guys, they bring an amazing ammount of talent to the team.

If Cutler becomes the stud we all hope, pay him too. You didn't see us flinching whenever John had a contract up... it was pay, pay, pay the man.

(Until very late and he and many others took cuts to give the team more cap-room.)

[BroncoBuff]

http://www.roundersmovie.com/imgs/rounders56.jpg

Geef thee man heess munnnney.


Great movie - terrible accent.

[BroncoBuff]

The comment about 'here or elsewhere' is troubling, frankly.

It's no surprise considering the state of things these days, but it is troubling.

Yeah .... that and the other comment. Don't like to see anybody shoot their mouths off here. This team has an excellent track record of paying their players.

TJ - neither of his comments bother you? He's the only guy saying anything like this. If he hadn't given that TD to Marshall in Cleveland - I'd be very concerned.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

My bad. Manning's not making one and a half times what Brady does, he's making almost two and a half times more.I doubt he's making 2.5 times as a year but yeah, he's making more. But to give you an idea of who is making what a year, Vick made 23 million last year as the highest paid player, the next highest paid player.... Matt Hasselbeck at 19 million. After those two comes Orlando Pace at 18 million and Walter Jones at 17.7 million.

Brady back loaded is contract like Elway did, it's not like he isn't taking the money too.

BTW, Brady's salary for 2005.... 15.6 million.
Manning's salary for 2005..........$668,000.

And speaking of WRs, Deion Branch made $700,000 last year, Rod Smith made 5 million.

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I doubt he's making 2.5 times as a year but yeah, he's making more. But to give you an idea of who is making what a year, Vick made 23 million last year as the highest paid player, the next highest paid player.... Matt Hasselbeck at 19 million. After those two comes Orlando Pace at 18 million and Walter Jones at 17.7 million.

Brady back loaded is contract like Elway did, it's not like he isn't taking the money too.

BTW, Brady's salary for 2005.... 15.6 million.
Manning's salary for 2005..........$668,000.

And speaking of WRs, Deion Branch made $700,000 last year, Rod Smith made 5 million.

Deion Branch should sign over half that signing bonus to Brady because the entire League would have recognized him as a number two receiver in any other circumstances.

Anyway, if the signing bonus numbers don't sway you then look at the total value of the contract. Either way, Manning and Vick took substantially more money than the winningest quarterback of the 21st century.

[ZachKC]

Geef thee man heess munnnney.


Great movie - terrible accent.

First thing that came to mind when I read this thread. I am just glad I found the picture. :D

[azbroncfan]

I'm sure noone has ever asked for a raise at a job before that posts on this board. I give JW credit for playing in GB after saying he would hold out, then he played got hurt and GB didn't finish there end of the deal thank you GB.

[listopencil]

I'm sure noone has ever asked for a raise at a job before that posts on this board. I give JW credit for playing in GB after saying he would hold out, then he played got hurt and GB didn't finish there end of the deal thank you GB.


I've never asked for a raise in my life. I always just go to the local paper and complain, then sit at home demanding that my employer pay me more. Works every time.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

I've never asked for a raise in my life. I always just go to the local paper and complain, then sit at home demanding that my employer pay me more. Works every time.Who reads the newspaper? Do they still print those things?

[Cleo McDowell]

I've never asked for a raise in my life. I always just go to the local paper and complain, then sit at home demanding that my employer pay me more. Works every time.

nice. its funny because its so rediculous LOL

[broncocalijohn]

i wonder how the guy who started this thread feels about his "slam" now. Check out his other thread starters. When you read the first page, everyone turned on him. Not what he thought us Broncos fans would say. JW then goes out and has one of his best games ever. LOL!

[wolf754life]

stupid title............horrible rep for the thread starter

[watermock]

We had to defer alot of his bonuses to stay under the cap. Funny thing is, he would of commanded more without the ACL.

I rewatched the Pitt game, and that affair was alot closer than it seemed. Javon, Jake and Champ almost were the whole team.

The new CBA makes contracts look even more rediculous.

I sudder to think what Rocket Man will make if he turns into a true superstar. Luckily, he's a good guy, I think he has alot of Brady in him for some reason. Just an instinctive feeling.

Anyway, it's what you have to pay...luckily he's come out of the gate strong. Speaking of STFU with Jake...I kept saying don't rush this guy...no hurry here...Christ, he looks 100% out there. I can't wait for 110.

Hopefully we can lick our wounds a little and not lay a turd like two years ago.

[Clockwork Orange]

I sudder to think what Rocket Man will make if he turns into a true superstar.

He'll make Champ & Javon look like paupers by comparison if that happens.