Do Americans simply not care about their planet?

[enjolras]

http://money.cnn.com/2006/11/01/magazines/fortune/pluggedin_taylor_SUVsales.fortune/index.htm?cnn=yes

Fairly scathing article about American car buying habits. Americans went out and bought SUV's and big trucks at highly inflated rates in the month of October.

[SteveTensi13]

Apparantly, you havent been to Mexico lately!

[broncocalijohn]

try many countries especially third world. Nice trip to Mexico City would be nice. Breath it in. Cherynobl is pretty exciting too. I actually thought car sales were going down and SUVs with it.

[defenseman]

http://money.cnn.com/2006/11/01/magazines/fortune/pluggedin_taylor_SUVsales.fortune/index.htm?cnn=yes

Fairly scathing article about American car buying habits. Americans went out and bought SUV's and big trucks at highly inflated rates in the month of October.

They aren't real smart are they. The prices , will drop MUCH lower than that in the near future...dman

[DBruleU]

I bought a new SUV in October. I promptly left the dealership, headed straight for Boulder Open Space, and ran over some prarie dogs, and trees.

[Rohirrim]

It's kind of like the thing about white bread. The French came up with white bread, but only the royalty could afford it. The people ate whole grain breads, which of course are ten times better for you. White bread became the bread of royalty and the rich. Over time, grain prices came down, processes were mechanized, and the average man could buy white bread. Now, we have all these educational programs in schools trying to convince people to stop eating white bread and go with whole grains.

Who drives SUVs? The rich. Movie stars. Gangsta rappers. Sports stars. It has nothing to do with what's good for the planet or smart for your pocketbook. It's an emotional purchase to pump up your ego and show you're not down in the muck with the commoners.

[defenseman]

It's kind of like the thing about white bread. The French came up with white bread, but only the royalty could afford it. The people ate whole grain breads, which of course are ten times better for you. White bread became the bread of royalty and the rich. Over time, grain prices came down, processes were mechanized, and the average man could buy white bread. Now, we have all these educational programs in schools trying to convince people to stop eating white bread and go with whole grains.

Who drives SUVs? The rich. Movie stars. Gangsta rappers. Sports stars. It has nothing to do with what's good for the planet or smart for your pocketbook. It's an emotional purchase to pump up your ego and show you're not down in the muck with the commoners.

Some folks just like trucks and SUV's. They travel alot, take lots of weekend trips and enjoy the extra room and comfort also. Nothing wrong with that..dman

[Hotrod]

I bought a new SUV in October. I promptly left the dealership, headed straight for Boulder Open Space, and ran over some prarie dogs, and trees.

LOL what you could not find any of those tree hugging bicycle riding bouderites to take out Ha!

[DBruleU]

LOL what you could not find any of those tree hugging bicycle riding bouderites to take out Ha!

You can drive down Pearl and hit those without even trying.

[Rohirrim]

Some folks just like trucks and SUV's. They travel alot, take lots of weekend trips and enjoy the extra room and comfort also. Nothing wrong with that..dman

Yeah, I can't afford to care anymore. I take one look at human history and I know that we are not going to do anything about overpopulation, global warming, water shortages, etc. etc. etc. until after the catastrophes are upon us, millions are actually dying, and refugees cover the globe. Even then, I doubt we'll do much. As long as the majority can say, "Well, it's not happening to me." The catastrophes will hit the Third World long before they are bothering us. The shortages of clean water are already killing millions. We don't care. We'll adapt, they'll die. We will act under the direct threat of pain and destruction, but until we hit that threshold, we won't do squat. If we can just add some more AC to our lives, we'll ignore the melting of the ice packs.

I once took a class on health and science and I'll never forget one study we read about. A huge percentage of human beings won't take their medicine correctly, even when their lives are threatened. If you tell a human being, "You will be dead in six months if you do not change your diet, exercise, and take this medication exactly as it is prescribed, three times per day."

That patient will come back in month and say, "I stopped taking the meds because it was too much of a hassle."

[TailgateNut]

Yeah, I can't afford to care anymore. I take one look at human history and I know that we are not going to do anything about overpopulation, global warming, water shortages, etc. etc. etc. until after the catastrophes are upon us, millions are actually dying, and refugees cover the globe. Even then, I doubt we'll do much. As long as the majority can say, "Well, it's not happening to me." The catastrophes will hit the Third World long before they are bothering us. The shortages of clean water are already killing millions. We don't care. We'll adapt, they'll die. We will act under the direct threat of pain and destruction, but until we hit that threshold, we won't do squat. If we can just add some more AC to our lives, we'll ignore the melting of the ice packs.

I once took a class on health and science and I'll never forget one study we read about. A huge percentage of human beings won't take their medicine correctly, even when their lives are threatened. If you tell a human being, "You will be dead in six months if you do not change your diet, exercise, and take this medication exactly as it is prescribed, three times per day."

That patient will come back in month and say, "I stopped taking the meds because it was too much of a hassle."


How sad, but very true! Just look at Dbrule's response. This is a person who wants us to believe he's a caring christian!

[alkemical]

Some folks just like trucks and SUV's. They travel alot, take lots of weekend trips and enjoy the extra room and comfort also. Nothing wrong with that..dman



and i'd bet 95% of most people use them as station wagons.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

You can't drive down Pearl without being run over by one of them.

Fixed it for you ;D

[Rohirrim]

You know what I think will be the American response to global warming? I think we'll build mammoth parks under domes where people can pay fees to enter and the entire place will be climate controlled. They will be like huge stadiums. In the central oval will be a massive park with pools and running water where kids can play. Around the outside rims will be massive malls for shopping and dining. Of course, the poor won't be able to participate. Water will be strictly controlled, and expensive. We will grow our food hydroponically or in massive greenhouses. Even then, it's doubtful we'll ever reach the abundance we're at now. The majority of the rest of the world will be starving and dying and moving.

I grew up on the coast. I used to catch 30 pound sea bass off the Redondo Breakwater. I went diving there about twenty years ago and now it looks like a desert, as far as you can see. The sea bass are gone. The rock crabs which numbered in the thousands are gone. There's nothing but sand.

People who are in their twenties now, don't even know what a prime, 1 inch steak looks like, or a foot long lobster tail - unless they're rich. They won't see that in their lives. When I was a kid, our fathers brought home buckets of that stuff. In the sixties, you could catch a 600 pound tuna. They no longer exist in the seas. You'd be lucky to catch a 100 pounder. Funny thing is, the tuna you can buy in a can now tastes nowhere near as good as the tuna I ate as a kid. The stuff you get now tastes more like crappy mackerel. The schools of cod off the Grand Banks numbered in the billions. The seas would boil with cod to the horizon. Now, they're gone. Any twenty something on this board right now, your grandchildren will not taste fresh seafood or find a 1 inch thick piece of prime tenderloin. Unless they're rich.

I've seen the change in the span of my life. The more people there are, the warmer the globe's temperatures, the less water, the more restricted will be our quality of life. I really pity our descendants. They will never know what they're missing.

[alkemical]

Don't worry Ro~

Mom will fix it one way or another if we don't

[baja]

my wife uses her SUV to haul around stuff she has been going to give away for 2 years

[-Slap-]

I didn't mind paying three bucks a gallon for gas because I knew it was killing the people driving SUVs. I was kind of hoping it would hit eight bucks.

[baja]

I didn't mind paying three bucks a gallon for gas because I knew it was killing the people driving SUVs. I was kind of hoping it would hit eight bucks.

Unfortunately most of the folks that drive the luxury SUVs could care less about the price of gas.

What gets me are the young girls driving a huge SUV totally engrossed with the conversation they are having on their cell phone while primping in the vanity mirror oblivious to what is happening around doing about 70 MPH.

[baja]

I didn't mind paying three bucks a gallon for gas because I knew it was killing the people driving SUVs. I was kind of hoping it would hit eight bucks.

Unfortunately most of the folks that drive the luxury SUVs could care less about the price of gas.

What gets me are the young girls driving a huge SUV totally engrossed with the conversation they are having on their cell phone while primping in the vanity mirror oblivious to what is happening around doing about 70 MPH. Talk about your weapons of mass destruction.

[SteveTensi13]

It's kind of like the thing about white bread. The French came up with white bread, but only the royalty could afford it. The people ate whole grain breads, which of course are ten times better for you. White bread became the bread of royalty and the rich. Over time, grain prices came down, processes were mechanized, and the average man could buy white bread. Now, we have all these educational programs in schools trying to convince people to stop eating white bread and go with whole grains.

Who drives SUVs? The rich. Movie stars. Gangsta rappers. Sports stars. It has nothing to do with what's good for the planet or smart for your pocketbook. It's an emotional purchase to pump up your ego and show you're not down in the muck with the commoners.

I drive an SUV, and I aint no gangsta rappa, movie star nor rich, though I did score three TD's once in a high school game! In fact, I'm thinking about getting me an H-3, beautiful bright yellow with big friggin tires to tear up the earth and off road lights to blind on coming traffic!

[TailgateNut]

I drive an SUV, and I aint no gangsta rappa, movie star nor rich, though I did score three TD's once in a high school game! In fact, I'm thinking about getting me an H-3, beautiful bright yellow with big friggin tires to tear up the earth and off road lights to blind on coming traffic!

LOL How can you afford that on your Wal-mart security guard salary???
....and should that have been "three TD's after a high school game".

[SteveTensi13]

LOL How can you afford that on your Wal-mart security guard salary???
....and should that have been "three TD's after a high school game".

I guess you speak from experience?

[Hotrod]

Fixed it for you ;D

LOL

Me and the wife both drive fairly large trucks that suck down the gas. We also spend alot of time up in the hills/haul horse trailers/haul a boat/hunt (well thats just me)/ etc etc...

I agree someone living in Denver driving gas hogs like ours really does not make much sense but we would have trouble hauling a horse trailer with a Saturn. ;D On the other hand we have talked about buying a couple of older used cars to run to work/store etc in the summer months. Thats something I guess.

[TheDave]

I drive an SUV, and I aint no gangsta rappa, movie star nor rich, though I did score three TD's once in a high school game! In fact, I'm thinking about getting me an H-3, beautiful bright yellow with big friggin tires to tear up the earth and off road lights to blind on coming traffic!

I didn't know Al Bundy posted here...

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9913/al065b0rc.jpg

[SteveTensi13]

Theres enough gas to last another 500 years, I'm not worried about conservation. As far as the greenhouse affect, that is still open to debate.

[Bronco LB 59]

I feel bad for the polar bears who are doomed in the Arctic once May rolls around.

[Hotrod]

I feel bad for the polar bears who are doomed in the Arctic once May rolls around.

Thats why I stopped clubbing baby seals....the polar bears have enough problems without me limiting their food supplies.

Althou I did just join PETA....People Eating Tasty Animals :approve:

[elsid13]

Thats why I stopped clubbing baby seals....the polar bears have enough problems without me limiting their food supplies.

Althou I did just join PETA....People Eating Tasty Animals :approve:

Cough, Cough Tree Planter/hugger ;D

[mhgaffney]

You know what I think will be the American response to global warming? I think we'll build mammoth parks under domes where people can pay fees to enter and the entire place will be climate controlled. They will be like huge stadiums. In the central oval will be a massive park with pools and running water where kids can play. Around the outside rims will be massive malls for shopping and dining. Of course, the poor won't be able to participate. Water will be strictly controlled, and expensive. We will grow our food hydroponically or in massive greenhouses. Even then, it's doubtful we'll ever reach the abundance we're at now. The majority of the rest of the world will be starving and dying and moving.

I grew up on the coast. I used to catch 30 pound sea bass off the Redondo Breakwater. I went diving there about twenty years ago and now it looks like a desert, as far as you can see. The sea bass are gone. The rock crabs which numbered in the thousands are gone. There's nothing but sand.

People who are in their twenties now, don't even know what a prime, 1 inch steak looks like, or a foot long lobster tail - unless they're rich. They won't see that in their lives. When I was a kid, our fathers brought home buckets of that stuff. In the sixties, you could catch a 600 pound tuna. They no longer exist in the seas. You'd be lucky to catch a 100 pounder. Funny thing is, the tuna you can buy in a can now tastes nowhere near as good as the tuna I ate as a kid. The stuff you get now tastes more like crappy mackerel. The schools of cod off the Grand Banks numbered in the billions. The seas would boil with cod to the horizon. Now, they're gone. Any twenty something on this board right now, your grandchildren will not taste fresh seafood or find a 1 inch thick piece of prime tenderloin. Unless they're rich.

I've seen the change in the span of my life. The more people there are, the warmer the globe's temperatures, the less water, the more restricted will be our quality of life. I really pity our descendants. They will never know what they're missing.


Good post.

I recall how impressed I was by Farley Mowat's great book SEA OF SLAUGHTER. It's an amazing read -- documents the once fabulous fishery off the coast of New found land -- and the Grand Banks. It was plentitude to the nth degree -- and we destroyed it.

Today the cod are gone -- and the whales and just about everything else. The St Lawrence is so decimated and polluted that even the meat of those fish that barely survive is almost inedible-- reaks of petroleum.

And the retards on this board -- you knee jerks know who you are -- don't give a rat's ass.

The bastards.

[SteveTensi13]

Good post.

I recall how impressed I was by Farley Mowat's great book SEA OF SLAUGHTER. It's an amazing read -- documents the once fabulous fishery off the coast of New found land -- and the Grand Banks. It was plentitude to the nth degree -- and we destroyed it.

Today the cod are gone -- and the whales and just about everything else. The St Lawrence is so decimated and polluted that even the meat of those fish that barely survive is almost inedible-- reaks of petroleum.

And the retards on this board -- you knee jerks know who you are -- don't give a rat's ass.

The bastards.

Proud Bastard!!

[24champ]

Thats why I stopped clubbing baby seals....the polar bears have enough problems without me limiting their food supplies.

Althou I did just join PETA....People Eating Tasty Animals :approve:
Speaking of seals check out this vid.

http://www.filecabi.net/video/shark081.html

[Spider]

Apparantly, you havent been to Mexico lately!

last I looked genius Mexico was part of North America , so they will also count as Americans

[SteveTensi13]

last I looked genius Mexico was part of North America , so they will also count as Americans

Mexico is Central America. The USA and Canada comprise North America.

[Spider]

Mexico is Central America. The USA and Canada comprise North America.

was that before or after we took Texas ?oh and look up San Salvador ......... Kinda clears up the whole North , Central , South . thingy

[TheDave]

actually you're both right...

North America is often divided into subregions but no universally agreed upon divisions exist. Central America comprises the southern portion of the continent, but its northern terminus varies between sources. The United Nations includes Mexico in Central America, while most other definitions of the region do not, e.g., the European Union excludes Belize and Mexico from the area. The term Middle America is sometimes used to refer to Mexico, Central America, and the Caribbean collectively.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_America

[Spider]

actually you're both right...



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_America

I thought Panama /San Salvador was the cut off ..........

[TheDave]

I thought Panama /San Salvador was the cut off ..........


Sadly i had to look it up... geography is not my thing

Just thought i would save you and al bundy some time ;D

[SteveTensi13]

was that before or after we took Texas ?oh and look up San Salvador ......... Kinda clears up the whole North , Central , South . thingy

San Salvador? Do you mean El Salvador? Who's the genius now?Knowitall

[Spider]

Sadly i had to look it up... geography is not my thing

Just thought i would save you and al bundy some time ;D

;D it is all good ......... I just posted a pic of my new ride ......... pete ext hood ....

[Spider]

San Salvador? Do you mean El Salvador? Who's the genius now?Knowitall

No I meant San Salvador goof ........ Just south ( going to the bottom of the map Genius ) Guatemala ( Sp? ) Genius

[broncocalijohn]

Unfortunately most of the folks that drive the luxury SUVs could care less about the price of gas.

What gets me are the young girls driving a huge SUV totally engrossed with the conversation they are having on their cell phone while primping in the vanity mirror oblivious to what is happening around doing about 70 MPH.


what part of mexico have you witnessed this?LOL

[ClevelandBronco]

Do Americans simply not care about their planet?

Planet America. I like it.

Dick Cheney, get it done.

[baja]

baja - What gets me are the young girls driving a huge SUV totally engrossed with the conversation they are having on their cell phone while primping in the vanity mirror oblivious to what is happening around doing about 70 MPH.


what part of mexico have you witnessed this?LOL

San Diego, Mexico

Seattle, Mexico

LA, Mexico

Phoenix, Mexico

To name a few...

[elsid13]

It is an interesting dichomoty. On one hand America drive SUVs, consume boatload of power and waste tons of water, produce a heck of lot of garbage. On the other hand we have greatly reduce point pollution, have some of hard pollution laws in the world, have states like California pushing to limit gas house effect, etc. And if you poll Americans you will discover a lot say they support the preservation of the environment.

[broncocalijohn]

San Diego, Mexico

Seattle, Mexico

LA, Mexico

Phoenix, Mexico

To name a few...


oh, u r one of those like cruz bustamente. No need for guns, just take over. Do u know the law allows 31 people living in a 1200 square foot house? To americans, that is disgusting. To illegals, that is roomy.

[Atlas]

I'm not worried. Rush said that all this global stuff was just a natural cycle of things. That might not be true but it sure does make me feel better!