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Master___Pain
11-01-2006, 09:44 AM
Which team winning benefits the Broncos more?

The Colts have the tie breaker over the Broncos, and the Broncos own the tie breaker over the Pats. Is it better to have the Pats win and have both teams just one game ahead of the Broncos? Or is it better to have the colts win and basically have a game lead over the Pats?

All of this is assuming the Broncos beat the Steelers.
TheDave
11-01-2006, 09:51 AM
Pats... anything that helps us get away from that god-forsaken RCA dome
Orange_Beard
11-01-2006, 09:51 AM
I am pissed from last weekend, GO PATS!
yhova
11-01-2006, 09:52 AM
Even if NE beats the Colts, the Colts are really like 2 games ahead of us. May as well root for Indy. At best we are looking at a 2 seed. We have to be realistic. The Colts are going to probably lose 2-3 games tops...
Crowpointer
11-01-2006, 09:53 AM
I'll take a wild stab at this one and say I'm rooting for the Patriots. Whatever it takes so we don't have to face the Broncos again.
Master___Pain
11-01-2006, 09:56 AM
Even if NE beats the Colts, the Colts are really like 2 games ahead of us. May as well root for Indy. At best we are looking at a 2 seed. We have to be realistic. The Colts are going to probably lose 2-3 games tops...

That was one thought I had, but it's tough to just write off any chance at home field. See that's the other thing, if the Pats beat the Colts and some how each team has the same record at the end of the season (Unlikely, I know) then how does that tie breaker go? Hopefully not off points scored:vermeil:
Dedhed
11-01-2006, 09:56 AM
You have to hope the Colts win. We're behind the Pats despite beating them, and a home game in the playoffs is vital. Anything can happen in the first round just like last year. We have little chance to catch the Colts for the #1 ranking in the AFC, and should hope to secure the #2 spot.
Orange_Beard
11-01-2006, 10:00 AM
Pats win, they stay in the heads of the Colts.
55CrushEm
11-01-2006, 10:02 AM
Even if NE beats the Colts, the Colts are really like 2 games ahead of us. May as well root for Indy. At best we are looking at a 2 seed. We have to be realistic. The Colts are going to probably lose 2-3 games tops...

Yep....in essence, we are 3 games behind Indy already (2, plus a tiebreak).....realistically, there is very little chance of outwinning the Colts by 3 gams the rest of the way, hence no chance of "outseeding" Indy. So, we have a better shot at the #2 seed.....so root for the Pats to LOSE......
-Slap-
11-01-2006, 10:16 AM
I couldn't root for the Colts if they were playing Al Queda.
sirhcyennek81
11-01-2006, 10:20 AM
Pats, it makes the top 3 afc teams a bit closer.

:Broncos:
Circle Orange
11-01-2006, 10:27 AM
Is there some way they could BOTH lose in double OT? I'm so sick of that matchup with the same stories and tired hype. Its also stupid for pundits to talk about home field advantage, as if there are no other teams in the AFC that will do ANYTHING in the last nine weeks. Dumbest crap I've ever heard.
jmz313
11-01-2006, 10:29 AM
Rout for the Pats. Just say no to Manning.
WABronco
11-01-2006, 10:37 AM
Wouldn't we want the no. 2 seed, so we wouldn't face the Colts until the AFCCG (if it got to that)?

If that's the case, we want the Pats to lose, right?
Crowpointer
11-01-2006, 10:46 AM
An excerpt from todays Boston Globe

Page 2 of 2 --Yet the Patriots-Colts-Broncos rivalry seems akin to Ali-Frazier-Foreman. These Colts are always going to be too much for Denver to handle, as Foreman always was for Frazier, but New England has Indianapolis’s number in the same way Ali had Foreman’s. And when New England and Denver meet, it’s Ali-Frazier, a war every time.

Much of the reason is style. The Colts have the offense to dismember the Broncos, Denver has the defense to limit the Patriots, and New England has the defense to discombobulate Indianapolis. So when it comes to Sunday night’s faceoff, the measuring stick of common opponents tells us little, because Manning seldom has done to New England what he has to everyone else.
55CrushEm
11-01-2006, 10:46 AM
Wouldn't we want the no. 2 seed, so we wouldn't face the Colts until the AFCCG (if it got to that)?

If that's the case, we want the Pats to lose, right?

People seem to disagree on this one......but yes, I want the Pats to lose. There is no chance of us overtaking the Colts, given their schedule and ours.
WABronco
11-01-2006, 10:52 AM
An excerpt from todays Boston Globe

Much of the reason is style. The Colts have the offense to dismember the Broncos, Denver has the defense to limit the Patriots, and New England has the defense to discombobulate Indianapolis. So when it comes to Sunday night’s faceoff, the measuring stick of common opponents tells us little, because Manning seldom has done to New England what he has to everyone else.

Okay, so the Colts "dismember," and the Pats "discombobulate," but we only "limit." F that...bunch of homers up in that Boston Globe.;D
bronco militia
11-01-2006, 10:58 AM
Okay, so the Colts "dismember," and the Pats "discombobulate," but we only "limit." F that...bunch of homers up in that Boston Globe.;D


bwhaha
Hotrod
11-01-2006, 11:19 AM
Okay, so the Colts "dismember," and the Pats "discombobulate," but we only "limit." F that...bunch of homers up in that Boston Globe.;D

LOL

As much as I enjoy some of the pats posters here and hate the colts my only option is to root for the pats to lose. I just feel better rooting against the pats then rooting for the colts (nothing personal pats posters). That way I really dont have to cheer for coach pay-me-aton.
Pezman
11-01-2006, 11:22 AM
Always root for the teams you have beaten down already. Especially if it helps your cause in playoff seeding. Go Pats!
Ray_Lewis'_Victim
11-01-2006, 11:26 AM
You gotta root for injuries and accidents on this one. If Brady and Manning both break legs, hat would be the best thing ever.
Hotrod
11-01-2006, 11:27 AM
Always root for the teams you have beaten down already. Especially if it helps your cause in playoff seeding. Go Pats!

Wait Im confussed like usual. If the pats win we could lose the 2 seed and we aint winning the 1 seed so we want the pats to lose no???
Pezman
11-01-2006, 11:29 AM
Wait Im confussed like usual. If the pats win we could lose the 2 seed and we aint winning the 1 seed so we want the pats to lose no???

Its all in my master play Rodder... Colts lose this one, then lose two more, Pats win this one, then stumble at least once more, and we win out...
= Homefield baby!

W00000t! :thumbsup:
PatsWin2002
11-01-2006, 11:31 AM
Wait Im confussed like usual. If the pats win we could lose the 2 seed and we aint winning the 1 seed so we want the pats to lose no???


Could happen.

But I think the thinking here is that you can beat us anywhere and Indy can beat you anywhere......so you'd rather get us under any circumstance.

I probably just confused you more. Ha!
Hotrod
11-01-2006, 11:35 AM
Could happen.

But I think the thinking here is that you can beat us anywhere and Indy can beat you anywhere......so you'd rather get us under any circumstance.

I probably just confused you more. Ha!

;D

I'd say we want the 2 seed and have the pats or chuggers knock out the colts for us in the early playoff rounds.
defenseman
11-01-2006, 11:35 AM
pats...dman
kamakazi_kal
11-01-2006, 11:36 AM
i will be rooting for DENVER
rbackfactory80
11-01-2006, 11:59 AM
Could happen.

But I think the thinking here is that you can beat us anywhere and Indy can beat you anywhere......so you'd rather get us under any circumstance.

I probably just confused you more. Ha!

Exactly right, except that can backfire if the Pats win out, which is very possible. If you end up the two seed and us the three then we would not have to play Indy until the championship game, which most people know they wont make it to.
dbfan21
11-01-2006, 12:07 PM
I couldn't root for the Colts if they were playing Al Queda.

ROFL! Very funny.
maven
11-01-2006, 12:52 PM
Colts

drops the Patriots down to 2 losses.
Bronx33
11-01-2006, 01:00 PM
Colts

drops the Patriots down to 2 losses.

As much as we know the colts will fold in the playoffs going in undefeated and forehead boy adding on to his legacy as the great one who is this decades dan marino, the league giving them year after year of cake scheduling and failing to cash in. (I just can't root for the colts)
Man-Goblin
11-01-2006, 01:04 PM
Colts, hands down. The Broncos aren't catching them, but it would be great if we could keep the Patriots close, whom the Broncos hold the tiebreaker over.
Bronco_Beerslug
11-01-2006, 01:05 PM
Can't root for either team but the game should be a good one. Didn't the Colts trample them last year?
Bronx33
11-01-2006, 01:11 PM
Can't root for either team but the game should be a good one. Didn't the Colts trample them last year?



Yep 40-21 in fox...
55CrushEm
11-01-2006, 01:30 PM
As much as we know the colts will fold in the playoffs going in undefeated and forehead boy adding on to his legacy as the great one who is this decades dan marino, the league giving them year after year of cake scheduling and failing to cash in. (I just can't root for the colts)

The league doesn't "give" the Colts an easy schedule year after year. All teams schedules were predetermined (except for 2 games each year, which are based on how you finish) for 2002 through 2009 after the re-alignment.

The Colts just play in the worst division in the AFC.....they have 6 easy wins each year.
ScottXray
11-01-2006, 01:30 PM
Gotta root for the Colts in this one....we stay even with Pats so we have the tie breaker and #2 seed...and we also will get a rematch in mile high against the Pats again, in the divisional round. Cinncinatti, Baltimore, San Diego are more inconsistent than the Pats.
The #2 seed comes down to either the Pats, or the AFC West Champ. I want that to be us.

:thumbsup: Indy won't lose three games.
Bronx33
11-01-2006, 01:49 PM
The league doesn't "give" the Colts an easy schedule year after year. All teams schedules were predetermined (except for 2 games each year, which are based on how you finish) for 2002 through 2009 after the re-alignment.

The Colts just play in the worst division in the AFC.....they have 6 easy wins each year.


Is there a site that lists all the schedules for 2007 2008 ect ect?
PatsWin2002
11-01-2006, 02:06 PM
Is there a site that lists all the schedules for 2007 2008 ect ect?

I had this bookmarked:
http://www.footballinjuries.com/rotation.htm
55CrushEm
11-01-2006, 02:14 PM
Is there a site that lists all the schedules for 2007 2008 ect ect?

I haven't seen a site, but you can figure it out....

Each year, every team plays their own division opponents (6 games), every team in a same conference division (4 games), and every team in an opposite conference division (4 games)....for a total of 14 games. The remaining 2 games are determined based on how you finish, and you play one of them from each of the OTHER 2 same conference divisions, aside from the one that you are already scheduled to play.

Here is who the AFC West plays/played for their predetermined 14 games, along with the 2 that are NOT predetermined:

2002 - AFC East, NFC West, 1 team from AFC S, 1 from AFC N
2003 - AFC North, NFC North, 1 team from AFC E, 1 from AFC S
2004 - AFC South, NFC South, 1 team from AFC N, 1 from AFC E
2005 - AFC East, NFC East, 1 team from AFC S, 1 from AFC N
2006 - AFC North, NFC West, 1 team from AFC E, 1 from AFC S
2007 - AFC South, NFC North, 1 team from AFC N, 1 from AFC E
2008 - AFC East, NFC South, 1 team from AFC S, 1 from AFC N
2009 - AFC North, NFC East, 1 team from AFC E, 1 from AFC S

Notice you rotate through the other same-conference divisions every 3 years (cause you already play your own division, duhhh).....and that you rotate through the opposite conference divisions every 4 years.......that's why this was sheduled through 2009 (8 seasons)...so that each team in the NFL would play each team at least 2 times......

Also, look at last year.....we played everyone in the AFC East....we had Miami and Buffalo on the road, and NE and NYJ at home.....so when we play the entire AFC East again in 2008......the locations of those games will be reversed.....and so on.

I just assume that they will continue this scheduling after 2009.....
Bronx33
11-01-2006, 02:16 PM
I had this bookmarked:
http://www.footballinjuries.com/rotation.htm



Ok but how do they determine each team for each sunday? or how the yearly schedule is laided out for a season, i know they have a rotation but are all those teams they play that season thrown into a hat and pulled out one at a time for that next sunday or does the networks bidding for tv time and dates become a factor in scheduling?
PatsWin2002
11-01-2006, 02:18 PM
but are all those teams they play that season thrown into a hat and pulled out one at a time for that next sunday or does the networks bidding for tv time and dates become a factor in scheduling?

I believe the specifics are all worked out between seasons.

Know how it's such a big deal when the schedule leaks early??
Bronx33
11-01-2006, 02:24 PM
I believe the specifics are all worked out between seasons.

Know how it's such a big deal when the schedule leaks early??



I have never seen a schedule early, has it ever? sorry for all the dumb questions but i never really looked that deep into it and iam kinda curious and if the system was so open why can't we see the schedules today for next season? can we?
azbroncfan
11-01-2006, 04:12 PM
Looks like Indy again next year.
PatsWin2002
11-01-2006, 04:25 PM
I have never seen a schedule early, has it ever? sorry for all the dumb questions but i never really looked that deep into it and iam kinda curious and if the system was so open why can't we see the schedules today for next season? can we?

No, the ACTUAL schedules for next year don't exist yet.

My prediction for this weekend:
bronco militia
11-01-2006, 04:34 PM
I have never seen a schedule early, has it ever? sorry for all the dumb questions but i never really looked that deep into it and iam kinda curious and if the system was so open why can't we see the schedules today for next season? can we?

every teams opponent (minus two games) have been set since 2002.

2002-2009:

http://www.johnnyroadtrip.com/schedules/nfl_future_afcw.htm
OrangeShadow
11-01-2006, 04:38 PM
I had this bookmarked:
http://www.footballinjuries.com/rotation.htm

thanks for playing 55crushem ROFL!
Bronx33
11-01-2006, 05:03 PM
every teams opponent (minus two games) have been set since 2002.

2002-2009:

http://www.johnnyroadtrip.com/schedules/nfl_future_afcw.htm


Thanks BM now that problem has been answered (i was wrong)
Alkazar
11-01-2006, 05:28 PM
I'm rooting for the Pats, no question. Somebody needs to take the Dolts off thier high pony.
55CrushEm
11-02-2006, 05:55 AM
thanks for playing 55crushem ROFL!

Not sure what you mean.....but I did my post all from memory.....glad to amuse you.
broncosteven
11-02-2006, 08:25 AM
An excerpt from todays Boston Globe

Page 2 of 2 --Yet the Patriots-Colts-Broncos rivalry seems akin to Ali-Frazier-Foreman. These Colts are always going to be too much for Denver to handle, as Foreman always was for Frazier, but New England has Indianapolis’s number in the same way Ali had Foreman’s. And when New England and Denver meet, it’s Ali-Frazier, a war every time.

Much of the reason is style. The Colts have the offense to dismember the Broncos, Denver has the defense to limit the Patriots, and New England has the defense to discombobulate Indianapolis. So when it comes to Sunday night’s faceoff, the measuring stick of common opponents tells us little, because Manning seldom has done to New England what he has to everyone else.

The problem in the Colts Broncos game is that the game is won by Indy on the 1st drive they force us to punt. Unless we score every drive & are at least matching the colts out put if not leading them by wide margin the game is lost. As in last 3 meaningfull matchups the Broncos have not been able to force the colts to punt the ball i.e. stop them.

Broncos have to score every possesion & colts have to be forced to punt. Simple theory isn't it! In other words reverse the tables on the bitches. LOL

BTW FG's by indy don't count as stops they count as points for indy & were the margin of victory Sunday.