Quick question: Who has Shanahan drafted that can cover?

[mattbeymvp]

Because I'm drawing a huge blank. Obviously this cartoon isn't even correct anymore.

http://denver.rockymountainnews.com/drew/083105drew.gif

[epicSocialism4tw]

Ian Gold

Al Wilson

[mattbeymvp]

Ian Gold

Al Wilson

True, for linebackers they're good in coverage. But obviously we're talking about the secondary here.

[(Jae)]

So 1 horrible game against a top 5 WR and DW cant cover anymore?
Name me those other WR's that had HUGE games against Dwill?

Fickle.

[epicSocialism4tw]

DJ Williams

Darrent Williams

Foxworth

[mattbeymvp]

DJ Williams

Darrent Williams

Foxworth

Foxworth went belly up against Pittsburgh and Williams got raped by Reggie Wayne and got burned frequently last year when he wasn't sitting on the bench hurt.

[Taco John]

The FireMikeShanahan guy strikes again. I noticed that in your glee after the loss, you finally rushed to your site to add an update. Nice work!


It's hilarious to me that the people who can defend poor outing after poor outing from Plummer are the first people to throw everyone else under the team bus, even if they're matched up against one of the best QB/WR tandem in the league. And don't read that as we should be bashing Plummer this week. I think he did his job. But to proclaim Darrent a bust for struggling against Peyton Manning and his perfect throws is moronic.

Listen to what Champ has to say about it:
http://cbs4denver.com/broncos/local_story_303075924.html

"Darrent played well, he played great. It's just one of those things. You play a guy like Peyton Manning - if the guy's going to put it on the money, what can you do really?"

Keep at it FireMikeShanahan guy.

[mattbeymvp]

The FireMikeShanahan guy strikes again. I noticed that in your glee after the loss, you finally rushed to your site to add an update. Nice work!


It's hilarious to me that the people who can defend poor outing after poor outing from Plummer are the first people to throw everyone else under the team bus, even if they're matched up against one of the best QB/WR tandem in the league. And don't read that as we should be bashing Plummer this week. I think he did his job. But to proclaim Darrent a bust for struggling against Peyton Manning and his perfect throws is moronic.

Listen to what Champ has to say about it:
http://cbs4denver.com/broncos/local_story_303075924.html

"Darrent played well, he played great. It's just one of those things. You play a guy like Peyton Manning - if the guy's going to put it on the money, what can you do really?"

Keep at it FireMikeShanahan guy.

I updated last week too, durrrrrr.

[Taco John]

I updated last week too, durrrrrr.

not really. Saying that you're too apathetic to make a post, and only showing up before a big game where there's an increased potential of losing is hardly an update. I mean, with what a bungling moron Mike Shanahan is, you should be making updates every other day, right?

Moron.

[mattbeymvp]

not really. Saying that you're too apathetic to make a post, and only showing up before a big game where there's an increased potential of losing is hardly an update. I mean, with what a bungling moron Mike Shanahan is, you should be making updates every other day, right?

Moron.

Right, because what I should have been doing is what you and the ministry of truth over here at Orange Mane are so great at with Plummer. Even though he's won five in a row and plays great in a loss you still blame everything on him.

The depth of your hypocrisy is amazing.

[(Jae)]

Even though he's won five in a row and plays great in a loss you still blame everything on him.


Helped is a better word, and even that's PUSHING it...........

[Taco John]

I don't blame this loss on him. His 13 completions this game were all pretty well masterful throws. I was impressed, save the fumble.

[mattbeymvp]

I don't blame this loss on him. His 13 completions this game were all pretty well masterful throws. I was impressed, save the fumble.

Notice how you squeak that "13" crap into there too.

He was only asked to throw 21 times and he completed over 60% of his passes. But get your little dig in there as much as you can.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Notice how you squeak that "13" crap into there too.

He was only asked to throw 21 times and he completed over 60% of his passes. But get your little dig in there as much as you can.


That's just that guy's obsession. All you need to say is "Jake vs. Griese...scoreboard".

[Taco John]

Notice how you squeak that "13" crap into there too.

He was only asked to throw 21 times and he completed over 60% of his passes. But get your little dig in there as much as you can.


I didn't think any of his 13 completions were crap. I said they were all pretty much masterful throws. It was a nice to see our outgoing quarterback doing his best to be remembered fondly in Denver. Once he's gone, I'll remember him for being the best transitional quarterback in the team's history. God Bless him.

[Taco John]

That's just that guy's obsession. All you need to say is "Jake vs. Griese...scoreboard".



There's no doubt that Jake is a much better quarterback in the Broncos system than Griese ever was. I think it's amusing that people think that I'm broken-hearted about anything revolving around Griese other than the dead money he took with him that we could have used for things like, oh I don't know... a dominant pass rusher...

[fdf]

But to proclaim Darrent a bust for struggling against Peyton Manning and his perfect throws is moronic.

A bust? No. He's a decent young player. Not yet ready for top-tier competition, as was made painfully obvious last night. But, other than Lynch, Bailey, Wilson, Williams, Gold and Warren, neither are any of our other defenders.

He got faked out of his shorts over and over--frequently on the same move. He always seemed to be running one way and Wayne the other. When the ball hit Wayne, Darrent was frequently ten yards or more away. Even worse, he was heading the wrong way to make the tackle. That was actually the most impressive part of Wayne's game. Not only was he ten yards from any defender, he had them going the wrong way to make a tackle. So there were a lot of YAC.

I keep hearing about all of Manning's precision passes and how that changed the game. With all due respect, that's crap on the Wayne/Williams "battle." Sure he was accurate. But he didn't need to be to run up the score. Most of his completions were to wide-open receivers who could easily have adjusted with the time and space they had.

Wayne played a great game and Manning didn't miss him when he was wide open (not a trivial thing, but not the game-changer, I wish Jake could see and hit the wide-open guys as well as Manning); but it was mostly Wayne getting open. Darrent is going to have to learn to stay with guys having great games or we're going to continue have playoff experiences just like the last several years.

He might get there; but I think it's going to take a couple more years. So the answer to the question on the thead is, so far, noone Shanahan has drafted is a top cover corner.

BTW, none of this is to minimize the problems in the DL. But you didn't see Bailey getting torched, despite the pathetic play of the DL.

[epicSocialism4tw]

There's no doubt that Jake is a much better quarterback in the Broncos system than Griese ever was. I think it's amusing that people think that I'm broken-hearted about anything revolving around Griese other than the dead money he took with him that we could have used for things like, oh I don't know... a dominant pass rusher...

Im sorry, dude, but the odds are likely that Jay Cutler ends up more like Jake Plummer than John Elway. I have espoused Cutler's merits and talents to no end here on this board. BUT, there are averages and there is average. History says that we'll be relatively fortunate if Cutler is average. Thems just them thar staytisticals. You are far too willing to throw who has been a successful QB for your favorite (supposedly) franchise under the bus just to see what can come of the rookie's potential. You are clinging to the dream that the franchise Hall of Fame QB has returned to Denver. A sort of football messiah delusion.

It would be great if Cutler turned out to be anywhere near as good as the Great Duke, but it's not worth risking what could be a legit shot at the Superbowl to do it. It doesnt look like this defense can carry a game manager Benburger type to the promised land. Jake is a better player than that, and the best opportunity is with him.

With Jake's solid performance against Indy, I think its safe to say that the QB "controversy" is on its last legs. If Jake plays like he did Sunday when they match up against Pitt, I think that you can go ahead and call it finished.

[Taco John]

Im sorry, dude, but the odds are likely that Jay Cutler ends up more like Jake Plummer than John Elway.



I just wish that Shanahan had gotten ahold of Jake when he was a rookie. He's gotten way too many bad habits gunslinging in Arizona.

[Taco John]

You are far too willing to throw who has been a successful QB for your favorite (supposedly) franchise under the bus just to see what can come of the rookie's potential. You are clinging to the dream that the franchise Hall of Fame QB has returned to Denver. A sort of football messiah delusion.



For what it's worth, I don't believe Cutler is the return of Elway. I do believe that he is the return of Shanahan's entire offense, and I'm more a fan of that than I ever was Elway. Elway was my childhood hero. Shanahan is my adulthood hero. Aside from my wife, that is. She brought me my baby boy. Though what Shanahan brought me (and us all) couldn't compare, it was definitely worthwhile.

Looks like you're not so smart, afterall, Llama. I only wish I could face those kinds of reads at the Poker table. You'd be easy money.

[Blueflame]

Right, because what I should have been doing is what you and the ministry of truth over here at Orange Mane are so great at with Plummer. Even though he's won five in a row and plays great in a loss you still blame everything on him.

The depth of your hypocrisy is amazing.

:notthissh
Shanahan will still be our coach long after Plummer bids Denver a fond farewell.

[epicSocialism4tw]

For what it's worth, I don't believe Cutler is the return of Elway. I do believe that he is the return of Shanahan's entire offense, and I'm more a fan of that than I ever was Elway. Elway was my childhood hero. Shanahan is my adulthood hero. Aside from my wife, that is. She brought me my baby boy. Though what Shanahan brought me couldn't compare, it was definitely worthwhile.

Well you arent going to see that playbook open up with Cutler this season. Even if he were to play, you would see similar restrictions, including a likelyhood of a reduction in risky plays like the naked boot and other complicated PA passing.

The playbook had some definite tweaks in it last Sunday, including moving pockets and designed QB run options. Stuff that Jake should execute pretty well, and he did. Heck, he even threw the moving pocket cross-field sideline ball to Kircus for what...49 yards?

I would expect to see more creative offensive plays over the next few weeks.

[Taco John]

I would expect to see more creative offensive plays over the next few weeks.


Just as I would expect to see a lot more creative ways to screw them up. What can I say. He's a known quantity at this point. ???

[epicSocialism4tw]

Just as I would expect to see a lot more creative ways to screw them up. What can I say. He's a known quantity at this point.

He executed his offense pretty darn well on Sunday. In the biggest game of the year for Denver, he made several big plays by executing the offense as he was directed to. Jake was "on". If Denver would have had the ball more often, I think that Jake's yardage numbers would have been better. His rating was excellent.

It's unfair to say that he did anything less than make lemonade out of lemons. He made some top-flight plays in that game.

It looks like the playbook has been altered from even last season. Maybe there is some truth to the idea that Shanny was saving some of the wrinkles for the big games. He certainly unleashed Jake a bit on Sunday with the moving pocket plays and the expanded PA rushing/passing attack.

[Jetmeck]

Listen up you little weasel....crawl back under your rock already. Where have you been the last five weeks ?

Anyone that has such an absurd website is oblivious to cold hard facts and common sense.

Most rushing yardage, most total yardage, most points scored and most wins since his tenure as BRONCOS head coach. Multiple playoff appearances and 2 SB wins.



Many franchises would love to have such a coach. You clearly are an idiot !

[Blueflame]

He executed his offense pretty darn well on Sunday. In the biggest game of the year for Denver, he made several big plays by executing the offense as he was directed to. Jake was "on". If Denver would have had the ball more often, I think that Jake's yardage numbers would have been better. His rating was excellent.

It's unfair to say that he did anything less than make lemonade out of lemons. He made some top-flight plays in that game.

It looks like the playbook has been altered from even last season. Maybe there is some truth to the idea that Shanny was saving some of the wrinkles for the big games. He certainly unleashed Jake a bit on Sunday with the moving pocket plays and the expanded PA rushing/passing attack.

IMHO, we would have seen more of Tatum/Mike Bell and Cecil Sapp if we'd had the ball more often...

[epicSocialism4tw]

IMHO, we would have seen more of Tatum/Mike Bell and Cecil Sapp if we'd had the ball more often...

Sure, but with the run game clicking you would have also seen much more of the deep ball. Shanny knew that success depended on his ability to exploit the deep coverage on rushing downs. Kircus got one, Scheffler got one (another doozy of a pass btw), and Walker should have had one too. Kircus also got pushed off of a deep route on the goal line, which unjustly wasnt called.

There would have been more rushing yards, but there would have been more of Plummer as well. His game was clicking too.

[Blueflame]

Sure, but with the run game clicking you would have also seen much more of the deep ball. Shanny knew that success depended on his ability to exploit the deep coverage on rushing downs. Kircus got one, Scheffler got one (another doozy of a pass btw), and Walker should have had one too. Kircus also got pushed off of a deep route on the goal line, which unjustly wasnt called.

There would have been more rushing yards, but there would have been more of Plummer as well. His game was clicking too.

In the 4th quarter, only two pass plays were called; one to Javon for 9 yards was complete and one deep one intended for Rod at the 2-minute warning was incomplete.

[epicSocialism4tw]

In the 4th quarter, only two pass plays were called; one to Javon for 9 yards was complete and one deep one intended for Rod at the 2-minute warning was incomplete.

Sure...Iron Mike Bell was ripping off first down after first down. Shanny's pins were all set up. You gash away and when you expose the flesh, you drive the stake through the heart of the defense by running a PA boot and making the big play. That's what makes this offense successful.

Jake was executing the big play in that game. Shanny would have pulled that trigger as many times as it took.

[Blueflame]

Sure...Iron Mike Bell was ripping off first down after first down. Shanny's pins were all set up. You gash away and when you expose the flesh, you drive the stake through the heart of the defense by running a PA boot and making the big play. That's what makes this offense successful.

Jake was executing the big play in that game. Shanny would have pulled that trigger as many times as it took.

The running game was working well... but after the fumble, most of Plummer's passes went to the RBs or TEs. Only three were to the WRs... 2 completions to Javon for 10 and 9 yards and 1 incompletion intended for Rod.

Noteworthy is the fact that the first two offensive series of the second half were 3-and-outs featuring four Plummer incompletions, a false start penalty, and the sack/fumble. For all the accolades Plummer's been receiving, those two possessions were decidedly not stellar.

[troya900]

Right, because what I should have been doing is what you and the ministry of truth over here at Orange Mane are so great at with Plummer. Even though he's won five in a row and plays great in a loss you still blame everything on him.

The depth of your hypocrisy is amazing.

Oh this is just masterful here. Yeah everyone's pissed off about the defensive meltdown, but come on you are pushing it. This defense saves plummers ass 5 straight games and you want to try and "credit" those to plummer yet after one loss you want to completely throw Williams under the bus.

/mattbeymvp mode on
One can certainly blame the offense at the end because they KNEW if they gave the ball back w/o scoring a TD w/ little time left peyton was going to score. What did they do go belly up and give peyton 2 mins where everyone in the building knew he was going to drive it down for the game winner.
/mattbeymvp mode off

[Florida_Bronco]

Because I'm drawing a huge blank. Obviously this cartoon isn't even correct anymore.

http://denver.rockymountainnews.com/drew/083105drew.gif

You're right, it's not correct. Darrius Johnson and Tory James were the best backup cornerbacks in the NFL at the time and James played very well when he started. Deltha O'Neal was up and down, but he did go to a Pro-Bowl.

[-Slap-]

When has this peon posted anything that wasn't mindless pablum?

Our defense is the only reason we're not 0-7 this year and the snivelling agenda driven morons taking potshots at them are no better than anybody posting on fireshanahan.com.

[Rohirrim]

What was that last line of King Kong? "No. It wasn't the planes. It was beauty killed the beast."

Well, it was no pass rush that killed the cornerback. Get a pass rush and DW starts going to pro bowls.

[Willynowei]

A lot of Idiotic posts in this thread. As big of a fan as I am of CHamp, I hope he gets burned next week to show this board how stupid it is to put any blame on Darrent for what was obviously not his fault.

[Dedhed]

Foxworth went belly up against Pittsburgh and Williams got raped by Reggie Wayne and got burned frequently last year when he wasn't sitting on the bench hurt.Please. Shut up.

[DarkHorse]

I don't see a problem with either Tory James or Deltha O'Neal - both seem to have done pretty good for themselves.

I don't see D-Will as a bust either, maybe i'm in the minority.

[Falconer]

What was that last line of King Kong? "No. It wasn't the planes. It was beauty killed the beast."

Well, it was no pass rush that killed the cornerback. Get a pass rush and DW starts going to pro bowls.

Exactly, you give a wide receiver 10-15 seconds to run around and no DB is going to be able to cover him.

[Smiling Assassin27]

boy, champ sure got toasted that night in Cincinnati. i guess Shanny can't even get it right through trades either. every CB gets burned...every one. this thread is built on a foundation of sand--that DWill must live up to some moronic standard that he can't give up a single pass play on his side of the field, lest he be branded as a CB that can't cover. straight to the Butt for this one.

[mattbeymvp]

boy, champ sure got toasted that night in Cincinnati. i guess Shanny can't even get it right through trades either. every CB gets burned...every one. this thread is built on a foundation of sand--that DWill must live up to some moronic standard that he can't give up a single pass play on his side of the field, lest he be branded as a CB that can't cover. straight to the Butt for this one.

10 receptions for 138 yards and 3 touchdowns.

If you actually watched the Cincinnati game you would have realized a few things. First, one of Chad Johnson's long receptions came off blatant offensive PI. Second, Champ took possibly seven points off of the board with a redzone interception later in the game. Third, Champ wasn't responsible for giving up 18 points in that game.

Darrent Williams has never been good, EVER.

I'm just thrilled we decided to let Kelly Herndon go for this chump. That was such an incredibly brilliant decision.

[mattbeymvp]

Exactly, you give a wide receiver 10-15 seconds to run around and no DB is going to be able to cover him.

Could he have possibly knocked ONE PASS DOWN, just one? I wasn't asking for him to completely shut Reggie Wayne down. But he didn't even slow him down. When he let Wayne catch everything he couldn't tackle and he was responsible for 18 points by himself.

[BroncoFiend]

Could he have possibly knocked ONE PASS DOWN, just one? I wasn't asking for him to completely shut Reggie Wayne down. But he didn't even slow him down. When he let Wayne catch everything he couldn't tackle and he was responsible for 18 points by himself.

Wow, so you're the guy who runs fireshanahan.com! I have to say I am very impressed. It must be cool to know that your efforts have really made an impact in society.

I mean, Shanahan has only been the coach for 12 years, and is widely regarded as one of the league's best. Just imagine where he'd be if it weren't for you! :spit:

[mattbeymvp]

Wow, so you're the guy who runs fireshanahan.com! I have to say I am very impressed. It must be cool to know that your efforts have really made an impact in society.

I mean, Shanahan has only been the coach for 12 years, and is widely regarded as one of the league's best. Just imagine where he'd be if it weren't for you! :spit:

Are you guys still operating under the delusion that I care what you think of me?

[DeusExManning]

Are you guys still operating under the delusion that I care what you think of me?

Please post somewhere else and do not use the we when referring to the Broncos, go back to fireshanahan.com and stay there. Maybe boob can join you.

[Rohirrim]

The D only had to turn one TD into a punt and they win the game. Maybe Darrent gives up the catch in the EZ. What about all the plays down the field before that? The rush sucked. The tackling sucked. Al Wilson didn't play a very good game either, BTW. To blame the entire loss on DW is just boneheaded.

[GonzoLays]

I'm just thrilled we decided to let Kelly Herndon go for this chump. That was such an incredibly brilliant decision.

With one statement you lose all credibility.

Herdon has been burned for 5 touchdowns this season! What in the hell are you smoking? Have you even watched the Seahawks this season? What an incredibly moronic statement you just made.

Herdon has ZERO ints and has given more TDs than he pass defended. :giggle:

You are an idiot!

[TDmvp]

this guy gets my vote for moron of the month ....
Gratz mattbeymvp ..... maybe now get a life or something ....
If i had so much time to make a lame a$$ site like yours id just kill myself and get it over with ....

[WABronco]

I'm just thrilled we decided to let Kelly Herndon go for this chump. That was such an incredibly brilliant decision.

Right, because Kelly Herndon is such a solid NFL corner himself. He's really establishing himself up in Seattle, isn't he?

And yes, I guess you could say it was a brilliant decision to let him go...

First of all, we would've had to match Seattle's offer at 3 mil/year. 3 million for a no. 3 corner, at best. His physical limitations will never let him be anything more than an average player.

Secondly, he was replaced by two younger players, with much more ability and much more potential. That is undeniable...

Darrent Williams has never been good, EVER.

And that statement is based off what? One game?

Should we just cut our losses right now, and replace a good young player with some street FA scrub?

[Falconer]

Could he have possibly knocked ONE PASS DOWN, just one? I wasn't asking for him to completely shut Reggie Wayne down. But he didn't even slow him down. When he let Wayne catch everything he couldn't tackle and he was responsible for 18 points by himself.

Manning was 32 of 39 right? He had 10 passes to Wayne right? That means it was possible that Darrent had Wayne covered well 29 out of the 39 times right? There is also the fact that he was not responsible for Wayne on at least one of the touchdowns as they were in a zone, but Lynch played it like man coverage.

[Mile High Mojoe]

Because I'm drawing a huge blank. Obviously this cartoon isn't even correct anymore.

http://denver.rockymountainnews.com/drew/083105drew.gif

I think the better question to ask is who has Shanny drafted to play on the DL that could actually get pressure on a QB without the help of 6 or 7 of his friends?

[ScotchTanShan]

Everyone knows that Shanny can't draft DB's, Dlinemen, or TE's, if Cutler doesn't work out, then you can start to look at his record of misjudging QB talent too... (I have no reason to think he won't- but jurys still out despite what every expert on here is basing off preseason)

[BroncoFiend]

Everyone knows that Shanny can't draft DB's, Dlinemen, or TE's, if Cutler doesn't work out, then you can start to look at his record of misjudging QB talent too... (I have no reason to think he won't- but jurys still out despite what every expert on here is basing off preseason)

Tight Ends?

What qualifies as a quality draft pick at TE? Chamberlain in the seventh round was great value, Desond Clark was good here and is still playing very well in Chicago, Jeb Putzier is a quality pass catcher, and Scheff is showing real promise.

Considering that during a bulk of that time we didn't need a starting TE because we had Sharpe I think we have had great success in drafting TEs.

[ScotchTanShan]

D.Clark is doing well for chicago- they should have kept him, the rest aren't even in the top 25 at best

[Jetmeck]

D.Clark is doing well for chicago- they should have kept him, the rest aren't even in the top 25 at best

YES, you can't draft a S.SHARPE every time can you ?
Or maybe a TONY G. that disappears for games at a time.

[ScotchTanShan]

YES, you can't draft a S.SHARPE every time can you ?
Or maybe a TONY G. that disappears for games at a time.

Thats your response? So Sharpe was never shutdown? You know damn well as I do that Shanny has been doubling Tony with a LB and DB, usually Champ, since you got CB and keeping him columned...

Let me guess- TG is overhyped too

[BroncoFiend]

D.Clark is doing well for chicago- they should have kept him, the rest aren't even in the top 25 at best

Top 25 of what? Are you saying that a 7th round draft pick has to be one of the 25 best TE's in order to be considered a good value?

You have to be kidding me.

[mattbeymvp]

Please post somewhere else and do not use the we when referring to the Broncos, go back to fireshanahan.com and stay there. Maybe boob can join you.

When did Mike Shanahan and the Denver Broncos become synonymous?

I can like the team and its players while believing that the coach is completely overrated. Thanks.

[Florida_Bronco]

Are you guys still operating under the delusion that I care what you think of me?

Then why are you here?

[elsid13]

Then why are you here?

His daddy didn't love hime enough when he was kid. And now he trolls the internet looking for attention from strangers. He is step up for Bobo, just because he actual know something about the broncos and doesn't spit out Chef stats.

[Arkansas Bronco]

Who has Mike drafted that can cover? Foster, his fat ass shadow covers alot.

[azbroncfan]

Because I'm drawing a huge blank. Obviously this cartoon isn't even correct anymore.

http://denver.rockymountainnews.com/drew/083105drew.gif

What CB hasn't been worked over and abused at some point in their career. In fact tell me one that hasn't been worked over at least 3 times??? If you tell me one you haven't watch football and just read espn and stats.

[Taco John]

When did Mike Shanahan and the Denver Broncos become synonymous?



That happened in 1997. Shanahan isn't ever going to be fired. He's Bowlen's guy until he leaves on his own terms.

[ScotchTanShan]

So are you defending Shanny's choices at CB and the fact that you guys have had a history of poor DB play and lack of pass rush on the DL sans picking up FA's... i.e. Champ, Neil Smith.... NO one's perfect but don't grasp on to defending a position that dictates the converse

[Killericon]

Because Deltha O'Neal turned out to be SUCH a bust.

[Killericon]

When did Mike Shanahan and the Denver Broncos become synonymous?

I can like the team and its players while believing that the coach is completely overrated. Thanks.

How is he overrated?

[BroncoFanCam]

Because I'm drawing a huge blank. Obviously this cartoon isn't even correct anymore.

http://denver.rockymountainnews.com/drew/083105drew.gif


I agree, how about you drop this ridiculous charade of "firemikeshanahan.com" and start the "bringbacklennywalls.com"...

Then we could all be truly happy...

In case you missed it, you are an idiot.

[DenverBrit]

10 receptions for 138 yards and 3 touchdowns.

If you actually watched the Cincinnati game you would have realized a few things. First, one of Chad Johnson's long receptions came off blatant offensive PI. Second, Champ took possibly seven points off of the board with a redzone interception later in the game. Third, Champ wasn't responsible for giving up 18 points in that game.

Darrent Williams has never been good, EVER.

I'm just thrilled we decided to let Kelly Herndon go for this chump. That was such an incredibly brilliant decision.

Never? Ever? A second year CB? Hilarious!
You are as stupid as your web site.
Have you no life other than playing a dumba$$?

[DenverBrit]

So are you defending Shanny's choices at CB and the fact that you guys have had a history of poor DB play and lack of pass rush on the DL sans picking up FA's... i.e. Champ, Neil Smith.... NO one's perfect but don't grasp on to defending a position that dictates the converse

Yeah, it's a disgrace that Denver picks so low in the draft, year after year. LOL

BTW, I'm curious, what does your screen name mean?

[Victor]

You're right, it's not correct. Darrius Johnson and Tory James were the best backup cornerbacks in the NFL at the time and James played very well when he started. Deltha O'Neal was up and down, but he did go to a Pro-Bowl.

Darrius Johnson could cover a stripper from Shotgun Willies like a glove. He was all over the spliff like a wet blanket. Clint Mitchell could rush the passer from the corner, then drop into zone coverage and blanket any fat, slow tight end. Another Florida gem.

Actually, I think that DWill is a find. He had a bad game and has a habit of playing soft, but he reads the play well, closes hard and hits hard. He'll be fine.

[ScotchTanShan]

you really don't know what a scotch tan is? and the fact that your coach is a huge boozer and sports the year round bronze look!?

[DenverBrit]

you really don't know what a scotch tan is? and the fact that your coach is a huge boozer and sports the year round bronze look!?

Never heard of getting a bronzed tan from drinking.

If that were true, some of my friends would look a lot better.

Have you heard of skiing or urban myth?

[jonny1]

you really don't know what a scotch tan is? and the fact that your coach is a huge boozer and sports the year round bronze look!?

Yeah, it is so easy to get in all that drinking when you are working 16 hour days . . .