Bend, Bend, Bend, B R O K E N

[epicSocialism4tw]

The Denver defense was exposed on national TV. In a game where Jake Plummer and the offense provided ample cushion for a win, the defense couldnt get stops, especially when it mattered in the fourth.

The defense is exposed.

[Popps]

This was an easy-to-understand lesson for the football challenged.

Want to make a side bet that people still won't get it, though?

You've already got some real gems around here blaming the game on Plummer's fumble... which was forced by a DE doing EXACTLY what ours NEVER do in games like this.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

The Denver defense was exposed on national TV.
Manning "exposes" a lot of defenses.

In a game where Jake Plummer and the offense provided ample cushion for a win, the defense couldnt get stops, especially when it mattered in the fourth.
The defense is exposed.
"ample cushion for a win" against the Manning and the Colts?
BS!

Against lesser teams, maybe so but the Colts have a horrible defense!

[Tombstone RJ]

Fact is, the Broncos defense still lacks a dominant pass rusher. The overall defense is good, but the defensive line has no ability to put consistent pressure on the opposing offense.

On the bright side, Coyer isn't blitzing a whole lot, so the defense is not a paper tiger. It is what it is, a solid defense, with an exceptional LB corps, and a very good secondary. However, it lacks a dominant defensive line.

But there is no reason to panic.

[epicSocialism4tw]

This was an easy-to-understand lesson for the football challenged.
Want to make a side bet that people still won't get it, though?
You've already got some real gems around here blaming the game on Plummer's fumble... which was forced by a DE doing EXACTLY what ours NEVER do in games like this.

Blaming that loss on Plummer is like blaming Hurricane Katrina on the buildings in the 9th ward. It's grasping for whatever they can lean on to help fuel their hatred for Plummer.

The defense was absolutely horrific, and unable to make any sort of significant contribution to the game.

No turnovers.

No hurries.

No sacks

The running backs gashed us.

The WR's destroyed us.

Manning picked apart our defense at will. There was no opposition. He did whatever he wanted, whenever he wanted.

[freak6]

Hey, I'm just gonna enjoy our 5-2 record. I wish all these naysayers would stop raining on my parade.

GO BRONCOS!!!

To bad Mike didn't go for the jugular on that last drive. Oh well. 5-2. Who are we to question Mike Shanahan???

[epicSocialism4tw]

Hey, I'm just gonna enjoy our 5-2 record. I wish all these naysayers would stop raining on my parade.
GO BRONCOS!!!
To bad Mike didn't go for the jugular on that last drive. Oh well. 5-2. Who are we to question Mike Shanahan???

Sure, dude.

You were one of those guys on this site claiming that the Colt playoff losses were in some way Plummer's fault.

You just got a wakeup call.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I agree. And I called it


The Colts are soft, but they've got everything they need to torch your defense.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

To bad Mike didn't go for the jugular on that last drive. Oh well. 5-2. Who are we to question Mike Shanahan???

My thoughts exactly!! We were at Colt's 32 yard line with 3:24 to go and basically sat on the ball to go for a tie.

Does anyone here think Manning and Colts would have played for a tie in that position or went for the win?

Why didn't we throw the ball down there and try and get a TD to win the game?

[SportinOne]

My thoughts exactly!! We were at Colt's 32 yard line with 3:24 to go and basically sat on the ball to go for a tie.

Does anyone here think Manning and Colts would have played for a tie in that position or went for the win?

Why didn't we throw the ball down there and try and get a TD to win the game?


We were not going to stop Peyton the next drive no matter what. Whatever he wanted he would have gotten. The only thing that could have stopped Peyton was the clock. The plays that were called were right on. Run, run, run and pass only if we have to.

I doubt Mike Shanahan expected to get only 2 yards on the 2 run plays after we smacked them around like we did. Then Plummer makes a stupid throw after he does a good job escaping the sack. I'm sure he thought someone was right behind him but if he hangs onto it for another half of a second he has time to make a good throw and the drive continues and we probably win the game.

If Shanahan was trying to sit on the ball he would have ran on 3rd down. Mike Shanahan called a very very good game but when it mattered the Colts D held their ground.

[freak6]

Sure, dude.

You were one of those guys on this site claiming that the Colt playoff losses were in some way Plummer's fault.

You just got a wakeup call.

Go stuff a bible in your piehole llama, I never did that. I've been 100% behind Jake until this season.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

We were not going to stop Peyton the next drive no matter what. Whatever he wanted he would have gotten. The only thing that could have stopped Peyton was the clock. The plays that were called were right on. Run, run, run and pass only if we have to.

I doubt Mike Shanahan expected to get only 2 yards on the 2 run plays after we smacked them around like we did. Then Plummer makes a stupid throw after he does a good job escaping the sack. I'm sure he thought someone was right behind him but if he hangs onto it for another half of a second he has time to make a good throw and the drive continues and we probably win the game.

If Shanahan was trying to sit on the ball he would have ran on 3rd down. Mike Shanahan called a very very good game but when it mattered the Colts D held their ground.
You don't get it. I'm not talking about throwing it in the endzone 3 times, I'm talking about mixing up our plays to continue moving down field, eating up the clock on our way to a touchdown. We just broke off a long run to get 50 yards on them, think some play action or a boot might have worked on the next play? We needed to get another first down or two down there on our way to a TD. The run, run, pass thing worked out real well, eh (leaving them with 2 minutes and 3 TOs left)?

[freak6]

If Shanahan was trying to sit on the ball he would have ran on 3rd down. Mike Shanahan called a very very good game but when it mattered the Colts D held their ground.


My gripe isn't with the play called, it was the formation. I wish we would have spread them out and then run on first down to keep Tatum in space, as he is terrible on any play where he as to make more than one move, he always slips. Not to be outdone, Mike Bell did the same on what looked to me to be an identical play, out of the same formation.

[ScottXray]

Tatum was limping the second Half., which is why Mike came in...

Mike did a great job..except he got winded every time he ran for 5 yards or more.
Tatum blew the first play, but I dont think he could get any push off his foot...then Mike slipped on the second, and Plummer dumped the ball on third.

Offense could have won by getting a first...but the defense could have won with ONE stop in the second half.

Defense did not do its job today.

[tsr28]

This was an easy-to-understand lesson for the football challenged.

Want to make a side bet that people still won't get it, though?

You've already got some real gems around here blaming the game on Plummer's fumble... which was forced by a DE doing EXACTLY what ours NEVER do in games like this.


Are you happy to be right then? Because earlier in the season you just kept slamming people for being unhappy with winning and how everyone just wanted to be right about what people thought was wrong with the Broncos when the defense seemed to be what was working the whole time while the offense struggled, until this game, now you're blowing your horn all over the place. Why is everyone so goddamn sided on being right about ****. So if we won by 3 points and it's 37-34 are you one of the people lamenting about a close win when the defense struggles?

[epicSocialism4tw]

I guess the question now facing the team is whether or not the defense continue to be taken advantage of for the rest of the season.

The Steelers took advantage of it mightily in the AFC championship game. We'll see them next week.

[wolf754life]

Defense is a sick joke............

Our defense is one of the most overrated units of all time...

Tell me that the NFL isn't a copy cat league, do you think the chargers, the patriots, the other teams won't look at that tape.

The tape is labeled "how to make the broncos D silly"

nice job coyer!

[SoonerBronco]

Defense is a sick joke............

Our defense is one of the most overrated units of all time...

Tell me that the NFL isn't a copy cat league, do you think the chargers, the patriots, the other teams won't look at that tape.

The tape is labeled "how to make the broncos D silly"

nice job coyer!

I think that even though our d-line sucked yesterday, they did not have Warren in there. AT LEAST, he draws a double and clogs up those middle lanes that Addai was abusing us on.

[maven]

Where's the people who thought Denver has a better defense than the Bears.

Anyway, same song & dance. No pressure from front four. Never thought our defense was great because of the bend don't break philosophy.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Will the level of play in the first six weeks return at any point this season? Or has the textbook been written on how to slice and dice this group to pieces?

[Tom A Hawk]

Defense did not do its job today.


Maybe not. How many teams have? You can't stop the Mannings er I mean Colts. 6 other teams haven't either.

The D of your team has given you 5 wins.

[SoonerBronco]

Maybe not. How many teams have? You can't stop the Mannings er I mean Colts. 6 other teams haven't either.

The D of your team has given you 5 wins.

without a passrush I might add!:welcome:

Seriously, the only glaring deficiency we have is our lack of a pass rush. For the love of all that is good, can we go get a passrusher in FA this year!

[sgbfan]

without a passrush I might add!:welcome:

Seriously, the only glaring deficiency we have is our lack of a pass rush. For the love of all that is good, can we go get a passrusher in FA this year!

I am curious to hear everyones opinion. How much did we miss Warren today. He is our best D-lineman and the anchor of the defense. Their line was pushing our tackles wherever they wanted to, giving adai all sorts of room. Its hard to get to the QB when its second and 5 or third and 2.

[toad]

I've said our DEF was overrated from the start. We hadn't played any solid offenses, sans St. Louis in a shakey Week 1 start. The DEF is good, but not '85 Bears good (or even '05 Steelers or '06 Bears good).

D-Will got beat up bad. Anytime a WR takes a single guy for over 130 yards, 3 TDs, and a 2-pt conversion theres no way to argue he didn't get lit up. He was as bad as Roc was 3 years ago and as bad as Foxworth was 2 years ago.

I seriously worry about Pittsburgh next week....defending champs at 2-5, coming off a bizarre loss to the worst team in the league, with a chip on their shoulder and something to prove.

[TexanBob]

I knew it was over the second we kicked the field goal. Even at 4th and 9 from the 30, I seriously considered going for it because two minutes was too much time to expect the defense to keep Manning out of field goal range.

Sure, if you don't make it, you leave yourself open to all sorts of second guessing but we hadn't stopped them the entire second half. Had we succeeded in converting the 4th down, we could have drained the clock and possibly scored a TD or kicked a field goal with less time on the clock.

Big risk. I don't blame Shanny for not going for it but it was a risk I thought we should have taken.

[Sassy]

This is it right here!

...because two minutes was too much time to expect the defense to keep Manning out of field goal range.

[defenseman]

I've said our DEF was overrated from the start. We hadn't played any solid offenses, sans St. Louis in a shakey Week 1 start. The DEF is good, but not '85 Bears good (or even '05 Steelers or '06 Bears good).

D-Will got beat up bad. Anytime a WR takes a single guy for over 130 yards, 3 TDs, and a 2-pt conversion theres no way to argue he didn't get lit up. He was as bad as Roc was 3 years ago and as bad as Foxworth was 2 years ago.

I seriously worry about Pittsburgh next week....defending champs at 2-5, coming off a bizarre loss to the worst team in the league, with a chip on their shoulder and something to prove.

Yep, and Dwill better be ready, he's hung a permanent target around his neck to carry around for the rest of the year as far as the opposition quarterback will be concerned. Why mess with champ when "easy pickens" is standing on the other side of the field....dman

[Bronco Bob]

The way Manning was playing against the Denver D, even if Denver had
gotten a TD and left Manning 10 seconds on the clock, Manning would
have just heaved one to Reggie Wayne in the endzone and DWill
would have been 10 yards off and looking lost.

[Mediator12]

This is as good a place as any to maintain that the Broncos have not been built to stop the colts. Period. If they were built that way they would have placed the most emphasis on PASS RUSH. Den still has a bottom five pass rushing DL and the LB's are excellent agains the run and pass, but none of them are Merriman type DE clone blitzers.

I have said all year three things that were repeatedly proven yesterday.

1. The DL has proven nothing and is still a fraud.

2. Darrent Williams is getting beat more than any other CB in the league and NOW he has surrendered three TD's in one game. So, that argument goes out the window.

3. The tackling from the LB's has been shaky and the depth of their drops yesterday gave more space for the underneath receivers to make moves and brak tackles.

What the Broncos have done is address the deficiencies they have had on defense each year. They are still good enough to stop most teams offenses with this scheme, but Manning's protection and the lack of a Pass rush makes this a nightmare matchup for them. The only other QB that is going to pose that kind of matchup is Brady (who we did NOT sack either) and we kept him from scoring more than seven total points in NE.

I really thought without Stokley the Base package would have an advantage, but I was wrong as the pass rush took the day off.

[rbackfactory80]

I knew it was over the second we kicked the field goal. Even at 4th and 9 from the 30, I seriously considered going for it because two minutes was too much time to expect the defense to keep Manning out of field goal range.

Sure, if you don't make it, you leave yourself open to all sorts of second guessing but we hadn't stopped them the entire second half. Had we succeeded in converting the 4th down, we could have drained the clock and possibly scored a TD or kicked a field goal with less time on the clock.

Big risk. I don't blame Shanny for not going for it but it was a risk I thought we should have taken.

I dont care how many times they score on us previously, if you are truly considering going on it on fourth and nine, down three points then , well you can plug in what you feel appropriate.

[epicSocialism4tw]

The defense is still broken.


Only a pass rush will fix it.

[Sassy]

The defense is still broken.


Only a pass rush will fix it.

According to some it's not...the "DEFENSE" won most of the 7 games.

[epicSocialism4tw]

According to some it's not...the "DEFENSE" won most of the 7 games.

Well, people have different philosophies on how to win. Some think that the magic lies in the ability to dominate offensively. Others think that you can do it by stifling the opponent's run game.

I think that you can do it a number of ways. And I think that this team is one player away from being able to win, and that player would play LDE, not QB. I think that offensively, the team needs a game-breaking RB much more than a new QB.

Why?

Its all about controlling the ball. To control the ball, you have to control the line of scrimmage. That means getting the other team off of the field, and controlling the ball when you get it.

We need guys in the trenches.

[Popps]

If we're going to win anything this year, it's going to be going the way of the Colts/Chefs. We've shown what we can do defensively in big games against quality offenses. (Nada.)

We'll need scores in the high 30s, low 40s to secure wins against quality teams. Score 27...... 31..... etc., and we're as good as dead.

[Bronco Bob]

According to some it's not...the "DEFENSE" won most of the 7 games.

The defense has won the game. Against teams with a bad offense and
a good defense, such as the Raiders.

[epicSocialism4tw]

The fact remains...if Champ Bailey does not bail the defense out when the offense marches down the field at will, we lose. Period.

Our team's hope rests in Champ Bailey.

[Popps]

Well, people have different philosophies on how to win. Some think that the magic lies in the ability to dominate offensively. Others think that you can do it by stifling the opponent's run game.

I think that you can do it a number of ways. And I think that this team is one player away from being able to win, and that player would play LDE, not QB. I think that offensively, the team needs a game-breaking RB much more than a new QB.

Why?

Its all about controlling the ball. To control the ball, you have to control the line of scrimmage. That means getting the other team off of the field, and controlling the ball when you get it.

We need guys in the trenches.



Great post.

There ARE a lot of philosophies, but football history teaches us that teams do not win championships without big-time defenses, yet... we've seen MANY win with only average, and even bad offenses.

It's not to say you don't want balance, but the point is that you don't use your offense as a defense.

Think about Shanahan's play-calling in this game. On one series, it appeared time to run the ball and bleed the clock. What does he do? He throws bombs, trying to seal the game up. Some will say that was to "take LT out of the game." In reality, it was to take OUR DEFENSE out of the game.

Then later... with a timeout and over 3 minutes left, we choose to go for it in our own territory. Again, when faced with a choice to trust the defense or take a very risky chance on offense, Shanahan chose the latter.

Mike Shanahan is coaching AROUND his defense.

Now, we've all heard about the scaled back offense... and maybe it's true.


But, bottom-line it.....

In our two big games, we put 27 and 31 points on the board. That's ABOVE to considerably above average for offensive output.

In those same two games, our defense allowed 34 and 35.... considerably BELOW AVERAGE.

So, again... your armchair fan is going to just point at the QB and scream, and a lot of that is justified. But, meanwhile... we're watching a coach try to coach games to keep his own defense off the field.

That's not how you win championships. The Steelers couldn't WAIT to trot their D out there last year. We're trying to hide ours.

[Rohirrim]

Not to mention, our rushing attack is not what it once was. I can't remember seeing a single rushing TD from outside the 10 this year. Last year, the Broncos scored 25 TDs on the ground. They're on pace for 14 or 15 this year. Rushing affects everything, including how much time the D spends on the field.

[-Slap-]

According to some it's not...the "DEFENSE" won most of the 7 games.

Only the intelligent people profess that opinion.

The rest of you waste your time with mealy mouthed crap like this thread.

[Sassy]

man...you're bitter Slap.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Not to mention, our rushing attack is not what it once was. I can't remember seeing a single rushing TD from outside the 10 this year. Last year, the Broncos scored 25 TDs on the ground. They're on pace for 14 or 15 this year. Rushing affects everything, including how much time the D spends on the field.

Yep.

We do not control the LOS on offense enough to effectively control the opposing defense with a back the calibur of Bell, Bell, Nash, or Cobbs.

The critical down for a great offense is down 1. The first down conversion rate spikes dramatically after a big chunk of yardage on 1st down. A team that controls the LOS picks up 4+ yards by running on 1st down.

The Denver offense is designed to be carried by the run game. When the run game is established, the opposing defense gets exposed. That's why Plummer was brought here. He runs a great boot/misdirection/delay game. He's not a pocket passer. The offense has been hindered by the ineffectiveness of the run game.

[Northman]

Yep.

We do not control the LOS on offense enough to effectively control the opposing defense with a back the calibur of Bell, Bell, Nash, or Cobbs.

The critical down for a great offense is down 1. The first down conversion rate spikes dramatically after a big chunk of yardage on 1st down. A team that controls the LOS picks up 4+ yards by running on 1st down.

The Denver offense is designed to be carried by the run game. When the run game is established, the opposing defense gets exposed. That's why Plummer was brought here. He runs a great boot/misdirection/delay game. He's not a pocket passer. The offense has been hindered by the ineffectiveness of the run game.





The Broncos ran the ball 35 times for 158 yds and 2 Tds.


Jake Plummer was 13/28 for 183 yds and 1 Int. The running game was there and is putting up the yardage and the scores. The Chargers have the 8th worse passing defense in the league and gave up 41 points to a 4th year Qb.

[Taco John]

Not to mention, our rushing attack is not what it once was.


Our running game is one of the most effective in the league.

We're third in the league in yards gained on the ground this year with a 4.6 yard average per carry. For comparison, we finished last year second in the league in yards gained with a 4.7 yard average per carry. To continue, the year before that (2004) we finished 4th in the league with a 4.4 yard per average.

Teams are geared to stop the run against us while sealing off the outside in order to keep Jake in the pocket. That gives us the inside to work with, and we're doing just fine there, except in one area: making defenses pay for sealing off the edges by exploiting their middle in the passing game. This means being effective with your tight ends.

Whoever you want to put that on, Jake or the TE corps, we're not making defenses pay for overcompensating on the edges in the passing game. Once we do, the edges will open up again for both the running and the passing game.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Our running game is one of the most effective in the league.


Until it has to make plays in the fourth quarter to keep the chains moving, then it's pretty well useless. You want to talk about offensive execution...this unit doesnt execute.

[-Slap-]

man...you're bitter Slap.

Preferable to being stupid.

[azbroncfan]

This D almost reminds me of the one that Rhodes had in his final year. They started off hot then the truth was discovered by Gannon on a Monday night.

[epicSocialism4tw]

This D almost reminds me of the one that Rhodes had in his final year. They started off hot then the truth was discovered by Gannon on a Monday night.

No doubt. I'm tired of this happening to us. It's time to get a dominant D-line player. I would trade Al Wilson to get one.

[Rohirrim]

Our running game is one of the most effective in the league.

We're third in the league in yards gained on the ground this year with a 4.6 yard average per carry. For comparison, we finished last year second in the league in yards gained with a 4.7 yard average per carry. To continue, the year before that (2004) we finished 4th in the league with a 4.4 yard per average.

Teams are geared to stop the run against us while sealing off the outside in order to keep Jake in the pocket. That gives us the inside to work with, and we're doing just fine there, except in one area: making defenses pay for sealing off the edges by exploiting their middle in the passing game. This means being effective with your tight ends.

Whoever you want to put that on, Jake or the TE corps, we're not making defenses pay for overcompensating on the edges in the passing game. Once we do, the edges will open up again for both the running and the passing game.

Maybe the numbers look good, but it certainly doesn't seem as effective as it once did, at least when it comes to moving the chains and keeping the offense on the field. Last year, the Broncos scored 25 TDs on the ground. This year they've got 9, which means they're on a pace to get 14 or 15. Can you think of a single time one of our RBs scored from beyond the ten? I can't. The longest run I remember for this year is Javon's on a reverse. The averages are lying, as far as I'm concerned, just like Lelie's average lied last year (as far as effectiveness). I just don't see our rushing attack controlling games the way it used to. I'm not going to defend Jake, because I think he's history, but losing Kubes, getting all new receivers and what I see as an ineffective running game are also costing the Broncos, and the Bronco's D, which is spending too much time on the field.

[bpc]

Unless you can stop a running game, you will lose all meaningful games.

Its bad enough that we can't stop a good passing game but our defense's calling card used to be stopping the run. We are not doing that any more convincingly either.

[yavoon]

Unless you can stop a running game, you will lose all meaningful games.

Its bad enough that we can't stop a good passing game but our defense's calling card used to be stopping the run. We are not doing that any more convincingly either.

this is a fallacy. I'd say u can giveup high yards/carry in ur running game if u can do two things(which are pretty much related anyway): stop the run a decent amount on short yardage. and stop the run when the opponent is calling 70+ % runs. u dont otherwise need to 'stop the run' thats just a cliche ppl throw around.

[azbroncfan]

Maybe the numbers look good, but it certainly doesn't seem as effective as it once did, at least when it comes to moving the chains and keeping the offense on the field. Last year, the Broncos scored 25 TDs on the ground. This year they've got 9, which means they're on a pace to get 14 or 15. Can you think of a single time one of our RBs scored from beyond the ten? I can't. The longest run I remember for this year is Javon's on a reverse. The averages are lying, as far as I'm concerned, just like Lelie's average lied last year (as far as effectiveness). I just don't see our rushing attack controlling games the way it used to. I'm not going to defend Jake, because I think he's history, but losing Kubes, getting all new receivers and what I see as an ineffective running game are also costing the Broncos, and the Bronco's D, which is spending too much time on the field.

Exactly, on O the numbers don't tell whole story, couple games run game has been non existent and that's why shanny tried Nash. He knows that the run O isn't where he wants it.

[-Slap-]

The defense couldn't stop Peyton Manning and LaDanian Tomlinson.

That means they suck.

:thumbsup:

[Tredici]

Exactly, on O the numbers don't tell whole story, couple games run game has been non existent and that's why shanny tried Nash. He knows that the run O isn't where he wants it.

They were running fine on Sunday night. Three incomplete passes in a row tends to kill a little momentum though don't it?

[epicSocialism4tw]

The defense couldn't stop Peyton Manning and LaDanian Tomlinson.
That means they suck.



No, but it does mean that they cant beat the two teams that they will need to beat to make the Superbowl.

[Spider]

Sure, dude.

You were one of those guys on this site claiming that the Colt playoff losses were in some way Plummer's fault.

You just got a wakeup call.

Speaking of Wake up Calls , did you answer the phone after the Chargers game ?

[Mile High Shack]

No, but it does mean that they cant beat the two teams that they will need to beat to make the Superbowl.

I guess no one understands that huh

it's fine to beat up on the weak sisters of the poor, like Cleveland and Oakland, but to win a superbowl, we actually have to beat good teams

it's not the BCS, I wonder if people know that? ;)

[azbroncfan]

They were running fine on Sunday night. Three incomplete passes in a row tends to kill a little momentum though don't it?

Yes and Indy game but what about Oakland game Pitt, KC first time. You are blind to think that the run game is just like it normally is. I think the O struggles are due to alot of 2nd and 8's. It's obvious shanny is thinking the same way by having on field tryouts.

[Tredici]

Yes and Indy game but what about Oakland game Pitt, KC first time. You are blind to think that the run game is just like it normally is. I think the O struggles are due to alot of 2nd and 8's. It's obvious shanny is thinking the same way by having on field tryouts.

I'm not blind. Apparently you didn't catch the SUNDAY NIGHT part of the post.

Always nice to be presumed an idiot, though.

[Clockwork Orange]

They were running fine on Sunday night. Three incomplete passes in a row tends to kill a little momentum though don't it?

You mean a 3 & out that took a grand total of 19 seconds off the clock might hurt momentum? Nah, that's crazy talk.

[fontaine]

This was an easy-to-understand lesson for the football challenged.

Want to make a side bet that people still won't get it, though?

You've already got some real gems around here blaming the game on Plummer's fumble... which was forced by a DE doing EXACTLY what ours NEVER do in games like this.

Jake fumbles the ball to put the Colts in the redzone: Great play by the DE.

One of the alltime great offenses (Colts) score 30+ on us: Our defense sucks against the best offenses in the league.

Hilarious!

Accountability and responsibility is a two way street everywhere except Poppsland.