Good Game But The Reason We Lost.....

[RADRHATR]

Is on Shanny's shoulders and his alone. Playing for the tie to begin with giving Manning over 1Min with 2 T.O's sealed the deal. Running the ball on 1st and 2nd downs just before the 2 min warning was playing for the tie and the loss. Good play calling genius.

[mosca]

Well, it certainly looks that way in hindsight, especially seeing as on 1st and 2nd down on our last offensive series it appeared as T. Bell and M. Bell either stumbled over their own feet or on something on the field on both plays... Those two rushes for 1, 2 yards or so were tough breaks there. Not laying the blame on M. Bell, he had a lights out game, it was just sort of bad luck. And then on 3rd down when the pocket collapsed... wow. If only Jake could have squeezed that ball in there a little further.

Gotta wonder how we woulda done this game had Warren been in there on the D-Line.

[Play2win]

Gerard Warren not playing was the reason we lost. It was evident from the very start.

[Man-Goblin]

That's a bunch of crap. The Broncos were eating the up on the ground. It's not Shanahan's fault that both Bells slipped at the line with open holes in front of them on first and second downs.

[BroncoMatt]

tatum played like his shoelaces were tied together, he single handedly killed our final drive, keeping us from not only killing some clock but maybe even getting a td instead of going for the field goal.

[bombquixote]

Nah. Those were good play calls. M. Bell was getting easy yards on every run.

Welcome back to RBBC.

[Barry Ramey]

The good: Plummer, Mike Bell, Scheffler, Walker

The bad: Tatum(was too busy wetting himself to run hard today, falling over himself and looked like he was scared to play today), Darrent(couldn't cover a shadow today) Gold(how many tackles did he miss?), the d-line(didn't even look like they were even trying, that's how bad they were), Coyer(how about changing things up once in awhile, why must he insist on giving Manning the same look overand over, he's done this for 4 years now)

[spdirty]

That is so ****ing stupid dude. We had that team on the ropes and by the shorthairs. We had em at the 35 with like 3:35 left. Where we lost that game is when Mike Bell slipped. Had he not slipped we'd have AT LEAST had the ball on the 15 with a first down with like 2:40 left. We couldve run clock, RAN IT in for a touch, and theyd have had the ball with like a minute left and maybe no timeouts. We would have won the damn game had Mike not have slipped. The Colts will never win the Super Bowl and I hope we get another crack at em in the playoffs IN INDY. We're gonna kill em next time because their defense is pathetic.

[Popps]

It's not about "one play" when you allow a team to score 34 points on you. There are larger problems than Shanahan playing for the tie. (Which I don't believe he did.)

If you want to point out one play, you could credit Freeny for making the biggest of the game, forcing a fumble on a great QB sack.

But, that's what Pro Bowl players do in big games.

[Popps]

Gerard Warren not playing was the reason we lost. It was evident from the very start.

Well, it would have been nice to have him today. But, I don't know if one guy can account for this kind of total collapse. Maybe against the run, but did Ekuban even play today? Who was our other DE? I honestly couldn't even tell you.

I at least SAW Doom out there trying to do things, but he was getting handled pretty easily.

Sure would have been nice to have Warren to know exactly where we are with this problem, but even so... the results just confirm that the problems now are the same as the problems the first time Indy punked us.

The ONLY difference in today's game is that our O fought through the poor defensive showing better than in past games.

Funny, people were so gung-ho about getting into shootouts, and so unhappy about winning low scoring games. I wonder how this one sat with them.

Sat crappy with me. What a disappointment.

[spdirty]

It's not about "one play" when you allow a team to score 34 points on you. There are larger problems than Shanahan playing for the tie. (Which I don't believe he did.)

If you want to point out one play, you could credit Freeny for making the biggest of the game, forcing a fumble on a great QB sack.

But, that's what Pro Bowl players do in big games.

Had Mike Bell not slipped, I wouldve bet my penis we'd have won. They were worn out, and it seemed like we were running the same exact play like 5 straight times and it was working every time we ran it. You get 10-15 yards, I bet we'd have gotten a touch and given them the ball with about a minute left and no or 1 timeout. I would put my money on our defense anytime in that situation.

I want another crack at em in the playoffs.

[mosca]

It was simply bad luck... It happens. Not sure that it was a bad playcall, as someone else pointed out, we were kicking their ass on the ground the whole 4th quarter. Sure, we coulda thrown in a pass on 2nd down, but why risk the interception and the sure chance to tie the game?

[halfcreek]

Had Mike Bell not slipped, I wouldve bet my penis we'd have won. They were worn out, and it seemed like we were running the same exact play like 5 straight times and it was working every time we ran it. You get 10-15 yards, I bet we'd have gotten a touch and given them the ball with about a minute left and no or 1 timeout. I would put my money on our defense anytime in that situation.

I want another crack at em in the playoffs.

The winner in that bet would be a loser. :giggle:

[halfcreek]

It was simply bad luck... It happens. Not sure that it was a bad playcall, as someone else pointed out, we were kicking their ass on the ground the whole 4th quarter. Sure, we coulda thrown in a pass on 2nd down, but why risk the interception and the sure chance to tie the game?
The problem was that Tater was ineffective all game and Mike was totally gassed. You could see him gasping for air in the huddle. Throw the ball, cross them up, pick up the 1st and cruise to victory. Hind sight is infallible.

[Barry Ramey]

Warren would have helped against the run, but he's not that great a pass rusher.

[Jetmeck]

Had Mike Bell not slipped, I wouldve bet my penis we'd have won. They were worn out, and it seemed like we were running the same exact play like 5 straight times and it was working every time we ran it. You get 10-15 yards, I bet we'd have gotten a touch and given them the ball with about a minute left and no or 1 timeout. I would put my money on our defense anytime in that situation.

I want another crack at em in the playoffs.

I agree 110% with everyhting you said except for playing them again, not with this d line and coyer and d-will.

[DeuceOfClub]

The reasons he ran were:

A. He tried not to leave any time on the clock. And,
B. Our running game was (hmmm how should I put it?) excellent.

Too bad Mike needed a breather after the f***ing 48-yarder and Tatum had to (once again) run into our own lineman on 1st down.



Did you even watch the game? He did the same thing at the end of the 1st half! Was it wrong? Or do you just select to judge him per the results?

[ZONA]

A play here or a play there, that was a toss up game. We could have won that just as easy as they did. I think the one thing we did learn in that game is M. Bell is the better running back. Tatam has got game breaking speed, we all know that but the dude lacks in shiftiness, breaking tackles and vision. This is football, not track. I like how Mike Bell cuts and his vision and his toughness is far superior to Tatum's. Sorry but I start Mike Bell next game. He's earned it.

[Kaylore]

Funny, people were so gung-ho about getting into shootouts, and so unhappy about winning low scoring games. I wonder how this one sat with them.

Sat crappy with me. What a disappointment.

There you go again with the "we hate winning" crap. ::) I promise you that everyone here would rather win ugly than lose...well ugly.

[DBroncos4life]

I blame Lepsis for blowing out his knee.

[Mile High Shack]

he ran b/c we were averaging like 5.5 yards a carry, why would we not continue to run

[orange crusher]

Is on Shanny's shoulders and his alone. Playing for the tie to begin with giving Manning over 1Min with 2 T.O's sealed the deal. Running the ball on 1st and 2nd downs just before the 2 min warning was playing for the tie and the loss. Good play calling genius.

I disagree. We ran the ball all the way down the field. If he puts the ball in the air in that area and isn't successful, it stops the clock and leaves time on the clock for Manning to win the game. I think he made the right choice in trying to continue to run the ball on first and second down. If they would have gotten another first down or two, they could have used up most of the clock and had a chance to win or tie at the least. I don't think he played for the tie.

[halfcreek]

I disagree. We ran the ball all the way down the field. If he puts the ball in the air in that area and isn't successful, it stops the clock and leaves time on the clock for Manning to win the game. I think he made the right choice in trying to continue to run the ball on first and second down. If they would have gotten another first down or two, they could have used up most of the clock and had a chance to win or tie at the least. I don't think he played for the tie.
And the time on the clock was not enough for Manning to win the game? At that time in the game we had a back who was dinged up and one who was gassed. We also had success throwing the ball. Colts were lined up to defend the run. Cross 'em up. Shanny usually does, but in this instance fell short.

[orange crusher]

And the time on the clock was not enough for Manning to win the game? At that time in the game we had a back who was dinged up and one who was gassed. We also had success throwing the ball. Colts were lined up to defend the run. Cross 'em up. Shanny usually does, but in this instance fell short.

The time on the clock isn't enough for Manning to win the game if we use the clock running the ball and picking up first downs. If the RB's wouldn't have slipped on both first and second down, I think they keep picking up first downs running the ball. Do you think the Colts defense wasn't gassed as well?

[mattbeymvp]

As the webmaster of Fireshanahan.com let me step in here and say that unless Shanahan was behind the decision to leave Williams on Wayne this loss was not his fault.

In fact, he made offensive adjustments that helped and his playcalling was damn good during the game.

Not Shanahan's fault.

[Vegas_Bronco]

So, after this game does #27 become ERRANT - I didn't see much D in his performance - talk about getting owned all over again. Just goes to show you how far away the Pro Bowl is Mr. Williams, how far it is from a week ago that is.