Will Terrell make it into the HOF

[scfan]

I for one think not. The knock on his entry is his short carreer. The posative is his SB MVP, and his 2003 yards in one season. I would love to see it happen tho as he is/was one of my favorite Broncos. I know there are a dozen more broncos that belong in there well ahead of him But man it would be great if he made it. I missed going to Canton when John went in, due to health problems. So, i'd love another chance to see a favorite get in.

[SoDak Bronco]

yes. yes. yes. TD is one of the main reasons Denver was dominate and won back to back Superbowls. Although I don't expect any love from the east coast biased media, he deserves every vote he gets.

[bendog]

B-Love says this is Grads last realistic chance to get in.

[spdirty]

How come the 7th leading rusher of all time isn't even on that list?

[spdirty]

B-Love says this is Grads last realistic chance to get in.

And I doubt he gets in, and its a damn shame. Floyd Little too.

[Florida_Bronco]

TD will get in. His broadcasting career keeps him in the limelight and endears him to the east coast media.

[Barry Ramey]

I don't think he will just because he didn't play long enough to put up the numbers to make a better case.

[Archie]

Tough call.... I used to say no way he got in. Now I'm not so sure. There may be enough love to put him into the hall in a couple of years but he still has to be considered a long shot. Zimmerman should make the list this year.

[Archie]

Tough call.... I used to say no way he got in. Now I'm not so sure. There may be enough love to put him into the hall in a couple of years but he still has to be considered a long shot.

I think Zimmerman could make it this year.

[ludo21]

Zimmerman, Gradisher and Little shold get it, as well as TD

[freak6]

Wasn't it 2008 yards?

Yep. It was. Anyway, if Sayers is in, TD should be too.

[Rohirrim]

I see no reason why TD and Randy shouldn't both be selected this time out. You'd think that just out of shame the friggin voters would realize there should be more than one friggin Bronco in the HOF.

[Los Broncos]

He was going to play for Long Beach State but they cancelled the program and he went to GA, he gets in i think, TD was awesome.

[Gcver2ver3]

He may get in....

His chance may be improved because the class he's up against aren't as impressive as other years....plus he's part of the media now and it doesn't hurt that he's broadcasting for the NFL NETWORK....that was a savvy political move by him for HOF consideration whether it was intended or not.....

If he does get in, it'll be because of the above mentioned and of course the "Gale Sayers" factor....

[DeuceOfClub]

A bronco? In the Hall of Fame?

Have you gone mad?

[ScottXray]

all current nominees...
Atwater, Steve
Davis, Terrell
Gradishar, Randy
Little, Floyd
Mecklenburg, Karl
Wright, Louis
Zimmerman, Gary


Should have been but never will:
Turner, Jim
Jackson, Rich ...Torn achilles Injury ended it but a sack machine.
Upchurch, Rick Punt returner....caught Elways first pass.

Definitely will be:

Sharpe, Shannon


Other than Zimm (and maybe Jackson) every one played their entire career in Denver....
Any team on either coast and they'd already have been in.


Shame!

[kmartin575]

Nope

[69bronco]

Who gets in First Terrell Davis or Jerome Bettis?

[Meck77]

My guess would be no but I sure would love a reason to get back to Canton!

[-Slap-]

Who gets in First Terrell Davis or Jerome Bettis?

Its going to be tough to watch Bettis and Curtis Martin enshrined if TD doesn't make it.

[Atwater His Ass]

TD's post-season alone should be enough to get him in. But who knows how the "experts" will vote.

Martin and Bettis I just dont' understand. They never really did anything special. They had long, productive careers, but I would never at any time during their career call either of them the best back in the league. The Hall of Fame is for the very best players by what they did on the field, not very good players that endured themselves to fans.

[OrangeShadow]

i dont think he will make it, i really think he should but i just dont see it

[-Slap-]

TD's post-season alone should be enough to get him in. But who knows how the "experts" will vote.

Martin and Bettis I just dont' understand. They never really did anything special. They had long, productive careers, but I would never at any time during their career call either of them the best back in the league. The Hall of Fame is for the very best players by what they did on the field, not very good players that endured themselves to fans.

Unfortunately, a lot of voters won't extend their analysis past this:

All-time leaders
1. E Smith 18355
2. W Payton 16726
3. B Sanders 15269
4. C Martin 14101
5. J Bettis 13662
6. E Dickerson 13259
7. T Dorsett 12739
8. J Brown 12312
9. M Faulk 12279
10. M Allen 12243
11. F Harris 12120
12. T Thomas 12074
13. J Riggins 11352
14. O Simpson 11236
15. *C Dillon 10757
16. R Watters 10643
17. E George 10441
18. O Anderson 10273
19. *E James 9658
20. *T Barber 9433
21. E Campbell 9407
22. *W Dunn 8901
23. *F Taylor 8818
24. T Allen 8614
25. J Taylor 8597
26. J Perry 8378
27. E Byner 8261
28. H Walker 8225
29. R Craig 8189
30. G Riggs 8188
31. L Csonka 8081
32. F McNeil 8074
33. P Holmes 8035
34. *S Alexander 8004
35. G Hearst 7966
36. J Brooks 7962
37. *S Davis 7921
38. *L Tomlinson 7834
39. *A Green 7765
40. C Warren 7696
41. T Davis 7607

[worm]

Nope

My answer for DT.

[worm]

Given the choice.....

I would vote for Randy over TD.

[Bronx33]

TD was a flash in the pan and will say he didn't play long enough buttttttt he will no doubt have honorable mention for years to come, he was a bad ass and that non one can deny.

[-Slap-]

Given the choice.....

I would vote for Randy over TD.

I would, too.

Randy's time is running out and he's probably more deserving.

[Atwater His Ass]

But what they need to look at is playoff numbers.

Terrell Davis: 204 rushes, 1140 yards, 12 TDs, 5.59 ypc, 8 games. 1 Super Bowl MVP.

Jerome Bettis: 199 rushes, 674 yards, 9 TDs, 3.39 ypc, 13 games. 0 Super Bowl MVPs.

Curtis Martin: 182 rushes, 793 yards, 8 TDs, 4.36 ypc, 10 games. 0 Super Bowl MVPs.

Davis did more in less games, and had a much bigger impact on those games, imo than either of the other backs. But I guess I'm just preaching to the choir here.

[Jason in LA]

I've posted my argument a few times.

Looking at the stats above, if TD had played in 16 playoff games, which would be a full season, he'd have nearly 2300 yards. Imagine a team playing a full season against nothing but playoff teams, and the RB running for nearly 2300 yards. That's just crazy.

TD is by far the best playoff back ever. Sure, other backs put up big numbers during the regular season, when teams get a lot of easy games. But TD ran over the best the league had to offer a number of times.

[TexanBob]

If Davis wasn't a Bronco, I'd be ambivelent about his HOF chances but since the Broncos have been so ignored by the voters then, hell yeah, I'm on board.

Sa-LOOT!

[ZONA]

Due to the fact that the football world thinks you can plug any back into this system and produce 1500 yards, I would say because of this and his career being a short one, NO. Love the guy but he's borderline for HOF. IMHO, most people in the media toss that word around like it's nothing. I don't know how many times in the last few weeks I've heard "HOF back, Tiki Barber has commented about his decision to retire at the end of this year". According to the media, about half the current players are HOF..........lol :rofl:

[SprintRightOption]

Isn't Randy Gradishar only elligible on the senior's selection category? If that's the case, he's out this year, because I saw somewhere the names of the two players selected for consideration, and they aren't him. If he's still in the regular pool, what's the cutoff? Anyone know? His career ended in 1983, I think.

I don't get why Zimmerman hasn't made it yet. He was eligible the year before Elway, so he's been passed over 4 times so far. The guy was only on the All-Decade team of the 80's AND the 90's. If he played in larger media markets than Denver and Minnesota he would be in already.

I fear he won't get in for a while, since there's a bunch of people that get in in the first few years of eligibility, and the chances drop off with each passing year after the first 3-5.

I wonder if Atwater has a realistic shot down the road.

[gunns]

A travesty Gradishar is not in, a travesty if Bettis or Martin get in (yard and years whores) before TD, but another travesty would be if Irvin gets in before Art Monk.

[Maximus]

Unfortunately, a lot of voters won't extend their analysis past this:

All-time leaders
1. E Smith 18355
2. W Payton 16726
3. B Sanders 15269
4. C Martin 14101
5. J Bettis 13662
6. E Dickerson 13259
7. T Dorsett 12739
8. J Brown 12312
9. M Faulk 12279
10. M Allen 12243
11. F Harris 12120
12. T Thomas 12074
13. J Riggins 11352
14. O Simpson 11236
15. *C Dillon 10757
16. R Watters 10643
17. E George 10441
18. O Anderson 10273
19. *E James 9658
20. *T Barber 9433
21. E Campbell 9407
22. *W Dunn 8901
23. *F Taylor 8818
24. T Allen 8614
25. J Taylor 8597
26. J Perry 8378
27. E Byner 8261
28. H Walker 8225
29. R Craig 8189
30. G Riggs 8188
31. L Csonka 8081
32. F McNeil 8074
33. P Holmes 8035
34. *S Alexander 8004
35. G Hearst 7966
36. J Brooks 7962
37. *S Davis 7921
38. *L Tomlinson 7834
39. *A Green 7765
40. C Warren 7696
41. T Davis 7607

What is unfortunate about it. It is the truth. The other problem is the fact that TD played in the 16 game era. OJ got 2,003 yards in 14 games... Davis took 16 to get 2,008

[B-Love]

A travesty Gradishar is not in, a travesty if Bettis or Martin get in (yard and years whores) before TD, but another travesty would be if Irvin gets in before Art Monk.

I still continue to be amazed by the support for Art Monk. I could see some support, but the idea that Monk is a no brain Hall of Famer is ridiculous.

In the above post you called Bettis and Martin "yard and years whores". WTF is Monk??

Art Monk may have been a top 5 NFL receiver twice during his entire career. He was usually the 8th or 15th most feared receiver in the league, who had a good short game, a great Intermediate game and a dismal long game.

Classic post though. Marin and Bettis are longevity whores but Monk isn't?? Classic.

I just put on my Defensive Coordinator hat. This just in. I fear Michael Irvin more than I fear Art Monk. By a decent margin.

By supporting Art Monk so overwhelmingly, you are unintentionally supporting the rationale that keeps guys like Randy Gradishar out of the Hall. There are only 6 spots/year people.

[-Slap-]

Anybody interested in reading my thoughts on Monk's candidacy can find some good football debate between myself, BLove, TheNextStep, Atlas and others on this thread from June of 2005.

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=27178&highlight=Monk

[Bronco Billy]

Isn't Randy Gradishar only elligible on the senior's selection category? If that's the case, he's out this year, because I saw somewhere the names of the two players selected for consideration, and they aren't him. If he's still in the regular pool, what's the cutoff? Anyone know? His career ended in 1983, I think.



From the HOF webpage on the selection process:

"When the Selectors meet in South Florida next February to name the Class of 2007, they will have before them a roster of 17 final candidates, along with detailed biographies on each. To assure that older players will be considered along with the younger breed, the Seniors Committee - made up of nine veteran members of the overall Selection Committee - have named two nominees from the pre-1982 era to be included on the final list."

[phillybroncosnut]

What is unfortunate about it. It is the truth. The other problem is the fact that TD played in the 16 game era. OJ got 2,003 yards in 14 games... Davis took 16 to get 2,008

Terrell would have had 2,400 yards if he wasn't pulled at halftime of a few games. The Egirls game and Cowboy games, he was on the bench at halftime with 200 yards already.

I'm so tired of the politics of the HOF. "he didn't play long enough", "he's a system back", "BS this", BS that". TD's resume is as impressive as ANYONE who played his position. Actually, no one who has ever played RB has these 4 points on the resume:

1- Super Bowl MVP
2- League MVP
3- 2000 yards in one season
4- League leader in yards rushed. I might add, he would have won more rushing titles but got beat out by a hall of fame RB (Barry Sanders)

No other RB can say all 4 of the above statements. TD DOMINATED while he was playing. He won games (and a superbowl) himself. He was a great. He was a great among the great.

It's all a bunch of BS.

[TomServo]

as nice as it was finally getting a bronco into the hof- the more i could give a rats ass about the hof.
six SBs and only ONE Bronco. F**K the hof.
Damn right TD deserves it. along with grads, meck, louis wright, floyd little......on and on as i said Fu**K the hof.

[Dedhed]

I think his productivity and the fact that he won two SBs, and was a SB MVP will weigh evenly with the short duration of his career.

The fact that he had a 2,000 yard season will put him over the top. That's fiercly exclusive company.

[Jason in LA]

What is unfortunate about it. It is the truth. The other problem is the fact that TD played in the 16 game era. OJ got 2,003 yards in 14 games... Davis took 16 to get 2,008

In '98, TD was pulled from a lot of games. I'd say that he really played 13 games that year. He was pulled at halftime in atleast 3 games, where he had a good 150 yards in all of them. If TD wasn't pulled from any game he wuold of had a good 2300 yards that season. It was the most amazing season that I've ever seen out of a RB. That's not just because I'm a Bronco fan, but because he ran through everybody, every game.

[Jason in LA]

Due to the fact that the football world thinks you can plug any back into this system and produce 1500 yards, I would say because of this and his career being a short one, NO. Love the guy but he's borderline for HOF. IMHO, most people in the media toss that word around like it's nothing. I don't know how many times in the last few weeks I've heard "HOF back, Tiki Barber has commented about his decision to retire at the end of this year". According to the media, about half the current players are HOF..........lol :rofl:


That's one argument that I'm tired of hearing. 1500 yards isn't 2000. None of the other Bronco RBs have been dominant. The other Bronco backs don't come close to comparing to TD.

[Jason in LA]

I don't get why Zimmerman hasn't made it yet. He was eligible the year before Elway, so he's been passed over 4 times so far. The guy was only on the All-Decade team of the 80's AND the 90's. If he played in larger media markets than Denver and Minnesota he would be in already.

I fear he won't get in for a while, since there's a bunch of people that get in in the first few years of eligibility, and the chances drop off with each passing year after the first 3-5.

I wonder if Atwater has a realistic shot down the road.

Zimm is getting screwed. I read that only 10 players have been on two all decade teams. Seven of them made the HOF on the first ballot. One of them made it on the second ballot. The ninth guy was a punter, so he doesn't count. The 10th guy is Zimm. He should have been in on either the first or second ballot. Since he's not in yet, he should be automatic by now, just to do the guy some justice. There are players who are getting in that don't have nearly as good of a resume. The HOF is becoming like the MVP, or the Heisman, QBs and RBs have a clear advantage.

[Tombstone RJ]

I've always said TD should get in the HOF, due mainly to his post season dominance. I still believe he should get in. However, he's not a first ballot HOFer. It will take him a few years to get in, if he gets in at all...