Boomer Esiason = NINCOMPOOP

[Circle Orange]

On 980 AM the Team in Washington there was an "around the NFL" segment this morning featuring Boomer. He was talking to Saban about various quarterbacks and how they performed this past week. When Saban asked about Eli Manning and comparing him to Peyton, Boomer said something to this effect:

"Look, let's not get carried away here, comparing him to Peyton. Can't we just start by comparing him to Steve Young, Elway or Marino? You're talking about probably the best quarterback of all time in Peyton Manning. Cut the kid a break, but he's coming along well." :clown:

Since when is Payaton better than everything that ever walked? And hall of famers are now second tier quarterbacks who compare to a rook who ain't done nothing???


I used to like Boomer, but now I think he's officially snapped. :o

[Mile High Shack]

was he serious or being tongue in cheek?

[TheSportsGuru]

A$$

[epicSocialism4tw]

Peyton isnt any better or different than Marino, and isnt the best QB of his generation. I think that Brady is better.

[WoodMan]

Peyton isnt any better or different than Marino, and isnt the best QB of his generation. I think that Brady is better.
:~ohyah!:

[BroncoFanatic]

Peyton is willing to throw his teamates under the bus (referring to him blaming his Oline for the playoff loss to Pitt). Classless. That fact alone should remove him from the conversation of who's best :notthissh

[broncosteven]

Once these Broadcasters realize Manrino is human & has flaws, yes even John was not perfect EVERY WEEK, they may start to see that he has yet to win a title or a Big Playoff game on the road.

[azbroncfan]

I would almost dare bet though if Shanny was coaching the colts they would have won it at some point in past couple years.

[TheDave]

What boomer said was stupid, hey needs to first finish his career before we start the all time talk. On the other hand where all the Peyton hating on this site comes from I'll never now. For years now i've said that Peyton was better than Dan Marino, and as the records continue to fall that keeps looking more and more true. If i had to pick the best QB today i would pick Manning over Brady, McNabb, etc. everytime... so would 90% of this board.

[Bronx33]

Boomer has what madden has (farveousucoffophy) only it's called(manningdroptokneesosis) with side affects of being a dumba**.

[Play2win]

Lets see how well Payton does in the next few years without a physical presence at RB.

[Bronx33]

Lets see how well Payton does in the next few years without a physical presence at RB.


Don't worry hes got a long line of announcers with lipstick on ready to smooth over all the rough spots.

[MechanicalBull]

If i had to pick the best QB today i would pick Manning over Brady, McNabb, etc. everytime... so would 90% of this board.

That's yes and no. If you want the best numbers and to score tons of points than you bring in Peyton. It's not entirely like it but it's sort of like who would you rather have at short stop A-Rod or Jeter. If you want homeruns and rbi you take A-Rod, but if you want leadership, a winner, and a guy that plays great when the pressure is on you would take Jeter just like you would take Brady.

[Paladin]

I would almost dare bet though if Shanny was coaching the colts they would have won it at some point in past couple years.

I would not take that bet. Can you imagine the colossal collision of egos? Who runs the ship, mate? Nah, I think Shanahan is happy the way things are now, and what seems to be possible in the future.....:~ohyah!:

And to add 2 cents: I think Brady has much more to offer than Manning. He doesn't seem to have the ego issues that Manning has, and is a good leader. He makes the supporting cast look good. Manning has had the great WRs and I contend they are at least half of their passing game.

[azbroncfan]

I would not take that bet. Can you imagine the colossal collision of egos? Who runs the ship, mate? Nah, I think Shanahan is happy the way things are now, and what seems to be possible in the future.....:~ohyah!:

And to add 2 cents: I think Brady has much more to offer than Manning. He doesn't seem to have the ego issues that Manning has, and is a good leader. He makes the supporting cast look good. Manning has had the great WRs and I contend they are at least half of their passing game.

That's why manning consulted SHanny on winning and shanny praises manning and said in the Probowl he would love to have a QB like Paymeaton. Shanny wouldn't have a problem and would respect the amount of time Paymeaton puts in off the field.

[listopencil]

Somebody should do up a quick poll. I was thinking about it but I don't want to leave anyone off the list. Let's see...


Brady
Manning
McNabb



...who else?

[12th man]

That's funny, boomer thinks that Payton is the best ever. Yeah he puts up the stats, but that's the only thing he comes close with when comparing him to Elway. First of all, If Elway had the offense like the colts have now earlier in Elways career, Elway could have like 5 or six rings instead of 2. and Like TD said last year after Indy's playoff loss, when things break down and he needs to get out of the pocket, Payton can't do a damn thing to get things going.

And this guy will never win a championship. He has a great supporting cast, throws a gazillion touchdowns a year, even goes 13-0 has home field and then loses to the last seed. Last year was his best chance, and didn't get it done. The funny part is, how "great" manning is, when his team needed him the most last year against pitt, he didn't do crap. He folded. I mean thats a game where the great qb's need to show up, he didn't. Instead, after the game, he b1tched about blocking. But I guess to Boomer, that's the definition of the greatest qb of all time. You think John would have looked that bad against pitt with that supporting cast? Hell no.

To quote a joke I heard by a guy named Daniel Tosh:
You want points on the board move to Indy, see what that gets you. Three points in a championship game and 7 months to explain your qb.

[DomCasual]

People who have opinions different from ours should be killed.

At the very least, they should be put on an island by themselves.

My preference would be killed, though.

[-Slap-]

Manning will be lucky if he's remembered as this era's Dan Marino.

[fido]

boomer is an idiot, listen to him sometime on the radio when he does play by play. an idiot

[epicSocialism4tw]

Manning will be lucky if he's remembered as this era's Dan Marino.

I dont agree with that.

Manning is the holder of some of the most coveted QB records, and for much of his career his presence alone on the Clots has made them an offensive powerhouse and a perrenial contender. He's easily the most consistently dominant offensive player of his era.

If you are an old schooler, you probably tend to gravitate towards Brady as the best of the era because of the nature of his performance. Manning has a solid claim to #1 as well. It just depends on the opinion, and both of them are legitimate.

Manning is a first ballot HOF guy today.

[DomCasual]

I dont agree with that.

Manning is the holder of some of the most coveted QB records, and for much of his career his presence alone on the Clots has made them an offensive powerhouse and perrenial contenders. He's easily the most consistently dominant offensive player of his era.

If you are an old schooler, you probably tend to gravitate towards Brady as the best of the era because of the nature of his performance. Manning has a solid claim to #1 as well. It just depends on the opinion, and both of them are legitimate.

Manning is a first ballot HOF guy today.

So how are any of those things different than Marino? Marino never had Edge, and Marino never had Marvin Harrison. And since he holds a bunch of all-time passing marks, I think you could argue he was the most dominant offensive player of his era.

[BroncoMatt]

Somebody should do up a quick poll. I was thinking about it but I don't want to leave anyone off the list. Let's see...


Brady
Manning
McNabb



...who else?

IF wins mean anything, not sure they do, then Jake Plummer needs to be on that list.

[BroncoFanDoug]

Manning is a great QB (and I hate his ass). And he has not done nearly enough to yet be put in the Elway / Montana (hate his ass too) category - two of maybe 5 QBs throughout history that can reasonably be argued as the best ever (although anyone with brains knows it was John).

For Boomer to elevate Manning above Elway & Montana is asinine.

[GonzoLays]

Considering football is a team sport and Elway did struggle at times in the playoffs, anointing Peyton Manning as the best OF THIS GENERATION is not that far off. I cannot remember a single player who strikes more fear in other teams fans than Manning. He dropped 100 points on us in two playoff games.

If you call Manning a choke artist, you have to call Elway one too. Neither is true.

You cannot take away anything from Manning. In this day of hyper-defense, uber-athletes, and parity Manning has put up ridiculous stats.

I don't understand all the hate for him. I can see people hating him for that comment he made about his offensive lineman having "protection problems" as a sore point for many, but he was well hated long before that.

He is simply the best QB of this generation. Brady had the benefit of a brilliant defense in winning three Super Bowls. Manning did not. Remember, it is a team sport after all.

[BroncoMatt]

most of the hatred for Manning comes from the overexposure of him in the media. The tv personalities verbal fellate him every day, he has more commercials than anybody but when it gets down to it, he hasn't won anything. He puts up huge numbers but thats it. IMO Brady should get more of hte media hype than Manning, he is a winner.

[bronco militia]

most of the hatred for Manning comes from the overexposure of him in the media. The tv personalities verbal fellate him every day, he has more commercials than anybody but when it gets down to it, he hasn't won anything. He puts up huge numbers but thats it. IMO Brady should get more of hte media hype than Manning, he is a winner.


you don't think Brady gets enough hype?



lol

[ludo21]

Manning is a great QB.

And i hate him for it.

He doesnt deserve any GOAT awards till he does something in the playoffs.

[Denver Crush]

Personally I think McNabb is the best in the game today, but to say that Manning isnt as good or better than DannyBoy Marino is kind of rediculus.

[BroncoFanDoug]

Considering football is a team sport and Elway did struggle at times in the playoffs, anointing Peyton Manning as the best OF THIS GENERATION is not that far off. I cannot remember a single player who strikes more fear in other teams fans than Manning. He dropped 100 points on us in two playoff games.

If you call Manning a choke artist, you have to call Elway one too. Neither is true.

You cannot take away anything from Manning. In this day of hyper-defense, uber-athletes, and parity Manning has put up ridiculous stats.

I don't understand all the hate for him. I can see people hating him for that comment he made about his offensive lineman having "protection problems" as a sore point for many, but he was well hated long before that.

He is simply the best QB of this generation. Brady had the benefit of a brilliant defense in winning three Super Bowls. Manning did not. Remember, it is a team sport after all.

I agree that an arguement can be made that he is the best right now. Brady supporters also have an arguement. So if that is all that Boomer had said I would have been OK.

But Boomer also directly implied that Payton was superior to Elway, Montana, etc. That is where I think he is entirely off the mark.

Why do I hate Payton? I didn't always hate him. He always bugged me with his jumping around behind the lines - I always feel that 75% of the time it is to show off how great he is at changing plays and he didn't really change the call. But what sealed it is when he threw his O-Line under the bus in public. Ya just don't do that.

[Bronx33]

Fact is boomer says hes the best ever and he has yet to collect one SB, end of story no contest end of discussion SHUT HER DOWN!

[BroncoMatt]

you don't think Brady gets enough hype?



lol

Compared to Manning? Everytime I turn on the tv I see another damn manning commercial for something. Brady doesn't have/do any major sponsorships, that pepsi ad was a couple years ago. Brady gets earned respect from the talking heads. He has won 3 super bowls, and made many clutch plays, how many clutch plays has Manning ever made?

[Denver Crush]

Manning has made enough plays in the last few years to consistenly beat us in the playoffs.

[listopencil]

IF wins mean anything, not sure they do, then Jake Plummer needs to be on that list.




No, I meant a list of the best QB's in the league right now so they could be included in a poll.

[Bronx33]

Compared to Manning? Everytime I turn on the tv I see another damn manning commercial for something. Brady doesn't have/do any major sponsorships, that pepsi ad was a couple years ago. Brady gets earned respect from the talking heads. He has won 3 super bowls, and made many clutch plays, how many clutch plays has Manning ever made?


http://www.orangemane.com/BB/image.php?u=99&dateline=1161038595

Whats a clutch play?

[-Slap-]

So how are any of those things different than Marino? Marino never had Edge, and Marino never had Marvin Harrison. And since he holds a bunch of all-time passing marks, I think you could argue he was the most dominant offensive player of his era.

It didn't take Marino six years to win a flipping playoff game, either.

[-Slap-]

If you call Manning a choke artist, you have to call Elway one too. Neither is true.

Elway carried his team to the Super Bowl in his fourth season.

It took Manning six years to win a playoff game, and nine years into his career he still hasn't won a playoff game on the road.

[Bronx33]

Elway carried his team to the Super Bowl in his fourth season.

It took Manning six years to win a playoff game, and nine years into his career he still hasn't won a playoff game on the road.


Boomers banter is getting weaker every post.

[Circle Orange]

Keep in mind that rules favor offense far more now than years ago. DBs are basically on a turnstile and can't breathe on wideouts. Don't be shocked if several qbs post inflated numbers over their careers from here on out. Now a quarterback can just 'throw up' a ball and get an interference call. In the past, it was a simple incompletion. So I don't read too much into O stats, especially the way the league is now. Look at all the top running backs getting around 1400 yards or more. Eventually the measuring stick will be 1800 yards.

And yes, Boomer is an idiot. Loudmouthed, bad tempered, and still silly. He loves to suckle Mike Vick's lap, though. :clown:

All that being said, Elway was one charlie horse and 3 points from going to a 6th super bowl. Tell Payaton to win more playoff games. Otherwise, he's just a horse with the perfect 'trip.'

[FantomForce]

That's just it Peyton is the greates qb to ever walk, cuz he sure as hell ain't mobile. That is what seperated Elway from them all! He could move and throw Petyon will end up at the end of his carreer just like Bledsoe, teams will just start blitzing and he won't be able to do SH*T!